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#751 ShadowsDemon
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two pics to sum up this thread

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My views on gay marriage have nothing to do with religion. Maybe you fvckwits should read the thread first.
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#752 dave123321
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Shadow, relax please.
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#753 ShadowsDemon
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How do we feel about nibroc?dave123321
I think he's very open minded and intelligent...which is more than I can say about most people in this thread
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#754 dave123321
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]How do we feel about nibroc?ShadowsDemon
I think he's very open minded and intelligent...which is more than I can say about most people in this thread

I am not sure what his actual beliefs are.
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How do we feel about nibroc?dave123321
Indifference. To be fair that's how I generally feel about most users
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#756 layton2012
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

two pics to sum up this thread

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ShadowsDemon
My views on gay marriage have nothing to do with religion. Maybe you fvckwits should read the thread first.

Wow, so you just don't want gays to be able to marry someone they love, at least religious nuts have a reason even if not all people believe in it your just an a**hole.
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#757 gamerguru100
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Over 750 posts. Jesus, can someone sum up the 38 pages for me? :lol:

My guess it that it was a flamefest.

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#758 dave123321
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Over 750 posts. Jesus, can someone sum up the 38 pages for me? :lol:

My guess it that it was a flamefest.

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Lots of nothing.
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#759 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]How do we feel about nibroc?ShadowsDemon
I think he's very open minded and intelligent...which is more than I can say about most people in this thread

someone who posts only to infuriate others and has openly admitted it is open midned? :lol: good one. The dude trolls other forums too. Good grief.

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#760 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="dave123321"]How do we feel about nibroc?wis3boi

I think he's very open minded and intelligent...which is more than I can say about most people in this thread

someone who posts only to infuriate others and has openly admitted it is open midned? :lol: good one. The dude trolls other forums too. Good grief.

Whoa, why the hate? It leads to the dark side you know.
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#761 dave123321
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="dave123321"]How do we feel about nibroc?wis3boi

I think he's very open minded and intelligent...which is more than I can say about most people in this thread

someone who posts only to infuriate others and has openly admitted it is open midned? :lol: good one. The dude trolls other forums too. Good grief.

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#762 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

two pics to sum up this thread

ShadowsDemon

My views on gay marriage have nothing to do with religion. Maybe you fvckwits should read the thread first.

You seem very very quick to jump on the defense as if these two images were sent directly for you. Persecution complex much?

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#763 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="dave123321"]How do we feel about nibroc?wis3boi

I think he's very open minded and intelligent...which is more than I can say about most people in this thread

someone who posts only to infuriate others and has openly admitted it is open midned? :lol: good one. The dude trolls other forums too. Good grief.

Ah, I don't post just to piss off other people...nor does he.
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#764 layton2012
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Over 750 posts. Jesus, can someone sum up the 38 pages for me? :lol:

My guess it that it was a flamefest.

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It was three or four trolls begging for us to tolerate and the intolerant.
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#765 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I think he's very open minded and intelligent...which is more than I can say about most people in this threadShadowsDemon

someone who posts only to infuriate others and has openly admitted it is open midned? :lol: good one. The dude trolls other forums too. Good grief.

Ah, I don't post just to piss off other people...nor does he.

Yes...he does. He invaded the pc forums not long ago posting nothing but antagonizing BS and got moderated out of there. He's a troll

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#766 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

two pics to sum up this thread

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layton2012
My views on gay marriage have nothing to do with religion. Maybe you fvckwits should read the thread first.

Wow, so you just don't want gays to be able to marry someone they love, at least religious nuts have a reason even if not all people believe in it your just an a**hole.

So I'm an @sshole because I don't support gay marriage? Oh please. Whatever the reason is it ain't none of your business, nor does it matter why I stand where I do.
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#767 pie-junior
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I think he's very open minded and intelligent...which is more than I can say about most people in this threadShadowsDemon

someone who posts only to infuriate others and has openly admitted it is open midned? :lol: good one. The dude trolls other forums too. Good grief.

Ah, I don't post just to piss off other people...nor does he.

haha have you checked with him first?
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#768 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

someone who posts only to infuriate others and has openly admitted it is open midned? :lol: good one. The dude trolls other forums too. Good grief.

wis3boi

Ah, I don't post just to piss off other people...nor does he.

Yes...he does. He invaded the pc forums not long ago posting nothing but antagonizing BS and got moderated out of there. He's a troll

From what I've seen he isn't. I've been on both sides of his arguments, and he seems to be very level minded. Trolling =/= being a troll. Everyone's trolled at some point, but it doesn't make them trolls.
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#769 dave123321
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nibroc is not on your side most likely
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#770 pie-junior
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From my perpective, even though I haven't read any of nibroc's posts in a very long time, he seems to be a great fan of contrarianism.
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#771 wis3boi
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nibroc is not on your side most likely dave123321

He picks whatever side is the least liked and posts fallacies to make people upset

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#772 dave123321
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]nibroc is not on your side most likely wis3boi

He picks whatever side is the least liked and posts fallacies to make people upset

Yeah, pretty much
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#773 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

someone who posts only to infuriate others and has openly admitted it is open midned? :lol: good one. The dude trolls other forums too. Good grief.

wis3boi

Ah, I don't post just to piss off other people...nor does he.

Yes...he does. He invaded the pc forums not long ago posting nothing but antagonizing BS and got moderated out of there. He's a troll

I was not moderated out of there.
I've only had 2 warnings in the last several months, one for reporting a mod, and one for posting a review that a mod didn't like.
Neither had anything to do with trolling OT or the PC forums.

Quit talking out your *** k thanks.

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#774 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]nibroc is not on your side most likely wis3boi

He picks whatever side is the least liked and posts fallacies to make people upset

No, what I've seen he's fine. I don't see the problem.
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#775 tumbIew33d
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No, it doesn't necessarily make you a bigot, but your in your case it's pretty clear cut you are.

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#776 MrPraline
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rofl this thread was pretty fun and f*ck i have a headache, good morning
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So I'm an @sshole because I don't support gay marriage? Oh please. Whatever the reason is it ain't none of your business, nor does it matter why I stand where I do.ShadowsDemon
Actually when you take a stance regarding what other people do, it does become their business.

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#778 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] So I'm an @sshole because I don't support gay marriage? Oh please. Whatever the reason is it ain't none of your business, nor does it matter why I stand where I do.toast_burner

Actually when you take a stance regarding what other people do, it does become their business.

Yep. I don't understand why he wouldn't "support" it. I don't actively "support" much of anything because I don't care what others do as long as nobody else's liberty is infringed, but when there's sexuality based discrimination is when I start having problems with it. Shadow Demon repeated over and over he isn't in this for the religious team. So why?
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So I'm an @sshole because I don't support gay marriage? Oh please. Whatever the reason is it ain't none of your business, nor does it matter why I stand where I do.ShadowsDemon
If you're not willing to discuss the reasons why you have a stance, then you shouldnt have posted itt or partake in any discussion on the issue.

Unless the OP was asking whether or not you are for gay marriage. In which case you could answer "No I'm not for it" and just leave.

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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] So I'm an @sshole because I don't support gay marriage? Oh please. Whatever the reason is it ain't none of your business, nor does it matter why I stand where I do.

You have the most impressively relentless persecution complex since Crushmaster I doff my cap to you
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#781 MrPraline
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Still intrigued. Why would he oppose gay marriage? It's not religious. So why would he hold on to a definition that is so old its p*ssy is haunted? Christian friends? Revenge after his last boyfriend dumped him through WhatsApp? To hold a controversial opinion on Gamespot? Or is this about real men and gender silliness?
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#782 TheWestCoastDon
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Yes it does.chessmaster1989

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#783 Teenaged
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Still intrigued. Why would he oppose gay marriage? It's not religious. So why would he hold on to a definition that is so old its p*ssy is haunted? Christian friends? Revenge after his last boyfriend dumped him through WhatsApp? To hold a controversial opinion on Gamespot? Or is this about real men and gender silliness?MrPraline
Religious reasons are usually just a justification for opposing it based on it being... "weird" or "icky" (a gut feeling behind the mask of a holy being). Or whatever of the sort. /imo, although I'm pretty sure

I guess professing that he doesnt oppose it due to religious reasons lends him some credibility (OT users on average dont take religious arguments seriously). But thats where it stops. He then has to explain why, if not for religious reasons, and saying "its weird" just doesnt sound convincing. So we get the "its none of your business" response.

He could use some arguments other than religious ones (human biology/anatomy for instance), but not only are those arguments weak, Shadowdemons is also unable to argue. Its good he's aware of his limitations.

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#784 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"]Still intrigued. Why would he oppose gay marriage? It's not religious. So why would he hold on to a definition that is so old its p*ssy is haunted? Christian friends? Revenge after his last boyfriend dumped him through WhatsApp? To hold a controversial opinion on Gamespot? Or is this about real men and gender silliness?Teenaged

Religious reasons are usually just a justification for opposing it based on it being... "weird" or "icky" (a gut feeling behind the mask of a holy being). Or whatever of the sort. /imo, although I'm pretty sure

I guess professing that he doesnt oppose it due to religious reasons lends him some credibility (OT users on average dont take religious arguments seriously). But thats where it stops. He then has to explain why, if not for religious reasons, and saying "its weird" just doesnt sound convincing. So we get the "its none of your business" response.

He could use some arguments other than religious ones (human biology for instance), but not only are those arguments weak, Shadowdemons is also unable to argue. Its good he's aware of his limitations.

Yeah. Seems weird he is unwillling to even explain his reasons. It's a so called internet debate, in the end. But yeah, he knows nothing will really stand up to the liberty and civil rights issues involved here.
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Well...there goes any hope of me ever hooking up with Mosey:shock:

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This thread has an awfully strong "I'm not racist because I order Chinese once in a while" vibe.

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I often see many (not all) liberals make the claim that if you don't support same-sex marriage you're a homophobic bigot, and this is completely untrue. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and by no means do I hate gay people. I work with several gay people, I give one a ride home from work, my girl friend has several gay friends that she invites over sometime that I hang out with, even one of my good friends told me he was gay later and I'm still friends with him.

Would a homophobic do all this? Not supporting gay marriage does NOT mean you hate gays, neither does simply disagreeing with being gay I don't hate them at all. So where are some liberals getting this from? I have seen some of them use similar BS when it comes to illegal immigration and they say everyone that is against it is racist.

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i am sick of this BS as well, i am a christian so i believe that marriage should be between a man and a women, Telling anyone who doesn't should support Gay marriage a Bigot is Religeous disscrimination as far as i am concerned, people who houd christians to support Gay marriage and go against there own personally held beliefs is bigotry of the highest order.
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I often see many (not all) liberals make the claim that if you don't support same-sex marriage you're a homophobic bigot, and this is completely untrue. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and by no means do I hate gay people. I work with several gay people, I give one a ride home from work, my girl friend has several gay friends that she invites over sometime that I hang out with, even one of my good friends told me he was gay later and I'm still friends with him.

Would a homophobic do all this? Not supporting gay marriage does NOT mean you hate gays, neither does simply disagreeing with being gay I don't hate them at all. So where are some liberals getting this from? I have seen some of them use similar BS when it comes to illegal immigration and they say everyone that is against it is racist.

delta3074

i am sick of this BS as well, i am a christian so i believe that marriage should be between a man and a women, Telling anyone who doesn't should support Gay marriage a Bigot is Religeous disscrimination as far as i am concerned, people who houd christians to support Gay marriage and go against there own personally held beliefs is bigotry of the highest order.

You're complaining about religious discrimination but your forcing your religious views on everyone else. Why does it matter to you if a gay couple get married in a secular ceremony? Or if they get married by their own religion that does support same sex marriage?

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I often see many (not all) liberals make the claim that if you don't support same-sex marriage you're a homophobic bigot, and this is completely untrue. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and by no means do I hate gay people. I work with several gay people, I give one a ride home from work, my girl friend has several gay friends that she invites over sometime that I hang out with, even one of my good friends told me he was gay later and I'm still friends with him.

Would a homophobic do all this? Not supporting gay marriage does NOT mean you hate gays, neither does simply disagreeing with being gay I don't hate them at all. So where are some liberals getting this from? I have seen some of them use similar BS when it comes to illegal immigration and they say everyone that is against it is racist.

delta3074

i am sick of this BS as well, i am a christian so i believe that marriage should be between a man and a women, Telling anyone who doesn't should support Gay marriage a Bigot is Religeous disscrimination as far as i am concerned, people who houd christians to support Gay marriage and go against there own personally held beliefs is bigotry of the highest order.

Marriage has nothing to do with religion. It is a function of the state. As such it should be avalible to all members of our society, regardless of their race, creed, political views, gender or sexuality. When you seek to deny people certain rights simply because of what they are then, yes, you are a bigot.

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[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

I think liberal politicians just used this topic to gain votes for their own base. Demonize the ones who don't side with them is thier way. We have sheeple that will listen to every word they say too.

ShadowMoses900

It's even more ironic because most democratic politicians don't support same sex marriage either such as Hilary Clinton, Biden, and even Obama at one point. But they don't call them bigots.

You know what's going on. I feel the same way, except I've never been called a bigot in real life by my gay friends. Only by politicians and on the internet, especially here by OT.
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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] I feel the same way, except I've never been called a bigot in real life by my gay friends. .

ROFL
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#792 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I often see many (not all) liberals make the claim that if you don't support same-sex marriage you're a homophobic bigot, and this is completely untrue. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and by no means do I hate gay people. I work with several gay people, I give one a ride home from work, my girl friend has several gay friends that she invites over sometime that I hang out with, even one of my good friends told me he was gay later and I'm still friends with him.

Would a homophobic do all this? Not supporting gay marriage does NOT mean you hate gays, neither does simply disagreeing with being gay I don't hate them at all. So where are some liberals getting this from? I have seen some of them use similar BS when it comes to illegal immigration and they say everyone that is against it is racist.

toast_burner

i am sick of this BS as well, i am a christian so i believe that marriage should be between a man and a women, Telling anyone who doesn't should support Gay marriage a Bigot is Religeous disscrimination as far as i am concerned, people who houd christians to support Gay marriage and go against there own personally held beliefs is bigotry of the highest order.

You're complaining about religious discrimination but your forcing your religious views on everyone else. Why does it matter to you if a gay couple get married in a secular ceremony? Or if they get married by their own religion that does support same sex marriage?

how is expressing my own personal views forcing them on anybody else? please explain? i am sick of Gay people calling me out for not agreeing with same sex marriage, i don't openly oppose people being gay and i don't openly oppose gay marriage, what i oppose is people being called Bigots for standing by there own personal beliefs and having a different opinion, Gay people are entitled to there opinions and so are Christians but christians are being repeatedly harrassed By gay activists for not agreeing with there opinion.
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I often see many (not all) liberals make the claim that if you don't support same-sex marriage you're a homophobic bigot, and this is completely untrue. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and by no means do I hate gay people. I work with several gay people, I give one a ride home from work, my girl friend has several gay friends that she invites over sometime that I hang out with, even one of my good friends told me he was gay later and I'm still friends with him.

Would a homophobic do all this? Not supporting gay marriage does NOT mean you hate gays, neither does simply disagreeing with being gay I don't hate them at all. So where are some liberals getting this from? I have seen some of them use similar BS when it comes to illegal immigration and they say everyone that is against it is racist.

toast_burner

i am sick of this BS as well, i am a christian so i believe that marriage should be between a man and a women, Telling anyone who doesn't should support Gay marriage a Bigot is Religeous disscrimination as far as i am concerned, people who houd christians to support Gay marriage and go against there own personally held beliefs is bigotry of the highest order.

You're complaining about religious discrimination but your forcing your religious views on everyone else. Why does it matter to you if a gay couple get married in a secular ceremony? Or if they get married by their own religion that does support same sex marriage?

Generally speaking it threatens their world view..And using religion as an escape hatch is the oldest ruse in the book...I hate how Christians pick and choose what to or not to believe...Stoning adulterers..nah...even though the bible says we should...Barely disguise our hatred for Homos..sure why not...the bible says i should
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I often see many (not all) liberals make the claim that if you don't support same-sex marriage you're a homophobic bigot, and this is completely untrue. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and by no means do I hate gay people. I work with several gay people, I give one a ride home from work, my girl friend has several gay friends that she invites over sometime that I hang out with, even one of my good friends told me he was gay later and I'm still friends with him.

Would a homophobic do all this? Not supporting gay marriage does NOT mean you hate gays, neither does simply disagreeing with being gay I don't hate them at all. So where are some liberals getting this from? I have seen some of them use similar BS when it comes to illegal immigration and they say everyone that is against it is racist.

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i am sick of this BS as well, i am a christian so i believe that marriage should be between a man and a women, Telling anyone who doesn't should support Gay marriage a Bigot is Religeous disscrimination as far as i am concerned, people who houd christians to support Gay marriage and go against there own personally held beliefs is bigotry of the highest order.

Marriage has nothing to do with religion. It is a function of the state. As such it should be avalible to all members of our society, regardless of their race, creed, political views, gender or sexuality. When you seek to deny people certain rights simply because of what they are then, yes, you are a bigot.

i don't sse that the christain church denying gay marriage is Bigotry at all, it's a fundemental part oof there religeous beliefs, however, forcing christian churches to go against there religeon and marry gay pople is bigotry of the highest order, Christian beliefs should be protected just as much as gay peoples beliefs, i ahve no problem with Gays getting married but the christian church should not be forced or coerced in any way to perform those marriages.
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]i am sick of this BS as well, i am a christian so i believe that marriage should be between a man and a women, Telling anyone who doesn't should support Gay marriage a Bigot is Religeous disscrimination as far as i am concerned, people who houd christians to support Gay marriage and go against there own personally held beliefs is bigotry of the highest order.delta3074

Marriage has nothing to do with religion. It is a function of the state. As such it should be avalible to all members of our society, regardless of their race, creed, political views, gender or sexuality. When you seek to deny people certain rights simply because of what they are then, yes, you are a bigot.

i don't sse that the christain church denying gay marriage is Bigotry at all, it's a fundemental part oof there religeous beliefs, however, forcing christian churches to go against there religeon and marry gay pople is bigotry of the highest order, Christian beliefs should be protected just as much as gay peoples beliefs, i ahve no problem with Gays getting married but the christian church should not be forced or coerced in any way to perform those marriages.

Who is saying churches should be forced to perform same sex marriage ceromonies? There are however many religious people such as Op saying gays shouldn't be allowed to marry even if their church supports it.

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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Ah, I don't post just to piss off other people...nor does he.ShadowsDemon

Yes...he does. He invaded the pc forums not long ago posting nothing but antagonizing BS and got moderated out of there. He's a troll

From what I've seen he isn't. I've been on both sides of his arguments, and he seems to be very level minded. Trolling =/= being a troll. Everyone's trolled at some point, but it doesn't make them trolls.

Can't see nibroc for what is.....can't take this user seriously ever.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]i am sick of this BS as well, i am a christian so i believe that marriage should be between a man and a women, Telling anyone who doesn't should support Gay marriage a Bigot is Religeous disscrimination as far as i am concerned, people who houd christians to support Gay marriage and go against there own personally held beliefs is bigotry of the highest order.spiderluck

You're complaining about religious discrimination but your forcing your religious views on everyone else. Why does it matter to you if a gay couple get married in a secular ceremony? Or if they get married by their own religion that does support same sex marriage?

Generally speaking it threatens their world view..And using religion as an escape hatch is the oldest ruse in the book...I hate how Christians pick and choose what to or not to believe...Stoning adulterers..nah...even though the bible says we should...Barely disguise our hatred for Homos..sure why not...the bible says i should

do you all misread what i am saying? i don't hate Homosexuals i just think that christians are just as entitled to there opinion as gay people, i have a few gay friends who actually respect my opinion and they are sick of the way the church is being hounded to conduct gay marriage, you cannot trample on one peoples rights just to push another persons rights.
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Marriage has nothing to do with religion. It is a function of the state. As such it should be avalible to all members of our society, regardless of their race, creed, political views, gender or sexuality. When you seek to deny people certain rights simply because of what they are then, yes, you are a bigot.

toast_burner

i don't sse that the christain church denying gay marriage is Bigotry at all, it's a fundemental part oof there religeous beliefs, however, forcing christian churches to go against there religeon and marry gay pople is bigotry of the highest order, Christian beliefs should be protected just as much as gay peoples beliefs, i ahve no problem with Gays getting married but the christian church should not be forced or coerced in any way to perform those marriages.

Who is saying churches should be forced to perform same sex marriage ceromonies? There are however many religious people such as Op saying gays shouldn't be allowed to marry even if their church supports it.

Ah well if gay people want the same misery as straight people who am I to stop them. Knock your socks off......but relationships are better when they aren't bound by government intervention.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]i am sick of this BS as well, i am a christian so i believe that marriage should be between a man and a women, Telling anyone who doesn't should support Gay marriage a Bigot is Religeous disscrimination as far as i am concerned, people who houd christians to support Gay marriage and go against there own personally held beliefs is bigotry of the highest order.spiderluck

You're complaining about religious discrimination but your forcing your religious views on everyone else. Why does it matter to you if a gay couple get married in a secular ceremony? Or if they get married by their own religion that does support same sex marriage?

Generally speaking it threatens their world view..And using religion as an escape hatch is the oldest ruse in the book...I hate how Christians pick and choose what to or not to believe...Stoning adulterers..nah...even though the bible says we should...Barely disguise our hatred for Homos..sure why not...the bible says i should

Nice generalizations dude.
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Marriage has nothing to do with religion. It is a function of the state. As such it should be avalible to all members of our society, regardless of their race, creed, political views, gender or sexuality. When you seek to deny people certain rights simply because of what they are then, yes, you are a bigot.

toast_burner

i don't sse that the christain church denying gay marriage is Bigotry at all, it's a fundemental part oof there religeous beliefs, however, forcing christian churches to go against there religeon and marry gay pople is bigotry of the highest order, Christian beliefs should be protected just as much as gay peoples beliefs, i ahve no problem with Gays getting married but the christian church should not be forced or coerced in any way to perform those marriages.

Who is saying churches should be forced to perform same sex marriage ceromonies? There are however many religious people such as Op saying gays shouldn't be allowed to marry even if their church supports it.

so calling christians bigots for standing by there beliefs is acceptable then?