Not supporting same sex marriage does NOT make someone a bigot.

[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]A bigot is someone who lets his hate or dislike of a race/color/creed/sexual orientation disassociate himself from members of that type. A bigot is a hateful word, and not every person who opposes gay marriage is a hateful person. Not everyone needs to believe the same way you do, and to call people who don't names makes you more of a bigot (hate-filled person) than someone who just doesn't agree with same sex marriage. The term "bigot" is being thrown around too much, and it needs to stop.LJS9502_basic

Exactly. I'm not a gay basher" I think that's wrong. I don't harass people who are gay I have a gay friend, I work with several gay people.....I don't use the "F" word. I am not a homphobic bigot, it doesn't matter to me if someone is gay or not. I simply believe that marriage should be betweeen a man and a woman.

These guys are taking this so out of context and trying to lable me a bigot over nothing.

I'm not sure you mean to use the word bigot there. Bigotry.....Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance"./quote A person can believe gay marriage is wrong without being a bigot...ie they don't march on DC and try to sway opinion, nor do they hate gay people or act intolerant of them. It's a fine line between bigotry and allowing for other opinions we don't agree with.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]A bigot is someone who lets his hate or dislike of a race/color/creed/sexual orientation disassociate himself from members of that type. A bigot is a hateful word, and not every person who opposes gay marriage is a hateful person. Not everyone needs to believe the same way you do, and to call people who don't names makes you more of a bigot (hate-filled person) than someone who just doesn't agree with same sex marriage. The term "bigot" is being thrown around too much, and it needs to stop.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

"I don't hate blacks, I just don't want to sit next to them or for them to vote":roll: bigots...

Yusuke420

@Shadow Moses, asked this before, don't believe I got an answer from you. If I said "I disagree with the Jewish lifestyle", would you label me an anti-Semite/you?Ring_of_fire

If you disagree with Judaism no it does not. I disagree with Mormonism but I'm not anti-Mormon.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="layton2012"] It does not make you bigoted for not believing in same sex marriage, it does make you bigot for wanting same sex marriage to be illegal even though it has nothing to do with you and does not affect you in anyway.layton2012

I'm not against gay marriage by the way. I'm against ALL marriage.:P

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]@Shadow Moses, asked this before, don't believe I got an answer from you. If I said "I disagree with the Jewish lifestyle", would you label me an anti-Semite/you?ShadowMoses900

If you disagree with Judaism no it does not. I disagree with Mormonism but I'm not anti-Mormon.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not sure you mean to use the word bigot there. Bigotry.....Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance"./quote A person can believe gay marriage is wrong without being a bigot...ie they don't march on DC and try to sway opinion, nor do they hate gay people or act intolerant of them. It's a fine line between bigotry and allowing for other opinions we don't agree with.Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]@Shadow Moses, asked this before, don't believe I got an answer from you. If I said "I disagree with the Jewish lifestyle", would you label me an anti-Semite/you?ShadowMoses900

If you disagree with Judaism no it does not. I disagree with Mormonism but I'm not anti-Mormon.

Are you sure? Because in the past you've labeled anyone even the least bit critical of the actions of the state of Israel as anti-semetic.

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]@Shadow Moses, asked this before, don't believe I got an answer from you. If I said "I disagree with the Jewish lifestyle", would you label me an anti-Semite/you?ShadowMoses900

If you disagree with Judaism no it does not. I disagree with Mormonism but I'm not anti-Mormon.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="layton2012"] It does not make you bigoted for not believing in same sex marriage, it does make you bigot for wanting same sex marriage to be illegal even though it has nothing to do with you and does not affect you in anyway.ShadowMoses900

Exactly. I'm not a gay basher" I think that's wrong. I don't harass people who are gay I have a gay friend, I work with several gay people.....I don't use the "F" word. I am not a homphobic bigot, it doesn't matter to me if someone is gay or not. I simply believe that marriage should be betweeen a man and a woman.

These guys are taking this so out of context and trying to lable me a bigot over nothing.

[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not sure you mean to use the word bigot there. Bigotry.....Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance"./quote A person can believe gay marriage is wrong without being a bigot...ie they don't march on DC and try to sway opinion, nor do they hate gay people or act intolerant of them. It's a fine line between bigotry and allowing for other opinions we don't agree with.LJS9502_basic

I'm not against gay marriage by the way. I'm against ALL marriage.:P

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]@Shadow Moses, asked this before, don't believe I got an answer from you. If I said "I disagree with the Jewish lifestyle", would you label me an anti-Semite/you?ShadowMoses900

If you disagree with Judaism no it does not. I disagree with Mormonism but I'm not anti-Mormon.

You're using the word "disagree" to justify bigotry.

For example you can "disagree" with the life style of asians and not hire them because you "disagree" right?

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]@Shadow Moses, asked this before, don't believe I got an answer from you. If I said "I disagree with the Jewish lifestyle", would you label me an anti-Semite/you?worlock77

If you disagree with Judaism no it does not. I disagree with Mormonism but I'm not anti-Mormon.

Are you sure? Because in the past you've labeled anyone even the least bit critical of the actions of the state of Israel as anti-semetic.

I consider those who are against Israel's right to exist as anti-semitic, not because they disagree with some of it's policies.

It would be like someone saying they are against gay people existing, that would clearly be bigoted. But simply disagreeing with it or them getting married does not.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="layton2012"] That's all fine and all and I don't consider you a bigot, but if you are so tolerant and just don't agree with the gay lifestyle, why are you so adamant against gay marriage, you don't have to agree with it or think its right, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be legal.layton2012

I'm not against gay marriage by the way. I'm against ALL marriage.:P

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not sure you mean to use the word bigot there. Bigotry.....Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance"./quote A person can believe gay marriage is wrong without being a bigot...ie they don't march on DC and try to sway opinion, nor do they hate gay people or act intolerant of them. It's a fine line between bigotry and allowing for other opinions we don't agree with.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not sure you mean to use the word bigot there. Bigotry.....Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance"./quote A person can believe gay marriage is wrong without being a bigot...ie they don't march on DC and try to sway opinion, nor do they hate gay people or act intolerant of them. It's a fine line between bigotry and allowing for other opinions we don't agree with.LJS9502_basic

Exactly. I'm not a gay basher" I think that's wrong. I don't harass people who are gay I have a gay friend, I work with several gay people.....I don't use the "F" word. I am not a homphobic bigot, it doesn't matter to me if someone is gay or not. I simply believe that marriage should be betweeen a man and a woman.

These guys are taking this so out of context and trying to lable me a bigot over nothing.

It wasn't an arguemnt, it was just the truth.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]@Shadow Moses, asked this before, don't believe I got an answer from you. If I said "I disagree with the Jewish lifestyle", would you label me an anti-Semite/you?MakeMeaSammitch

If you disagree with Judaism no it does not. I disagree with Mormonism but I'm not anti-Mormon.

You're using the word "disagree" to justify bigotry.

For example you can "disagree" with the life style of asians and not hire them because you "disagree" right?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]The key phrase ther is "intolerantly devoted". If one is given plenty of valid reasons for gay marriage yet still sticks to being against it, they're certainly a bigot if they won't listen to reason. There really is no valid reason to be against it, it's 2013 ffs

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Exactly. I'm not a gay basher" I think that's wrong. I don't harass people who are gay I have a gay friend, I work with several gay people.....I don't use the "F" word. I am not a homphobic bigot, it doesn't matter to me if someone is gay or not. I simply believe that marriage should be betweeen a man and a woman.

These guys are taking this so out of context and trying to lable me a bigot over nothing.

ShadowMoses900

It wasn't an arguemnt, it was just the truth.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Dude.....in the future I'd refrain from the I have a friend etc argument. It's like the racist that says they have a minority friend. Doesn't change them from being a racist. Not jumping on you here. Just clarifying what is not a compelling point.:PLJS9502_basic

It wasn't an arguemnt, it was just the truth.

No I understand it, it's a common thing racists use. But I didn't say it for that reason.

Aare you sure about that....I said and I quote....A person can believe gay marriage is wrong without being a bigot...ie they don't march on DC and try to sway opinion, nor do they hate gay people or act intolerant of them.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

If you disagree with Judaism no it does not. I disagree with Mormonism but I'm not anti-Mormon.

ShadowMoses900

Are you sure? Because in the past you've labeled anyone even the least bit critical of the actions of the state of Israel as anti-semetic.

I consider those who are against Israel's right to exist as anti-semitic, not because they disagree with some of it's policies.

It would be like someone saying they are against gay people existing, that would clearly be bigoted. But simply disagreeing with it or them getting married does not.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Aare you sure about that....I said and I quote....A person can believe gay marriage is wrong without being a bigot...ie they don't march on DC and try to sway opinion, nor do they hate gay people or act intolerant of them.

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

If you disagree with Judaism no it does not. I disagree with Mormonism but I'm not anti-Mormon.

Yusuke420

You're using the word "disagree" to justify bigotry.

For example you can "disagree" with the life style of asians and not hire them because you "disagree" right?

No that's just dumb logic. Many of you disagree with religion right? Are you an anti-religious bigot? (Some of you probably are)

If you disagree with say, Islam are you anti-Muslim? No. If you disagree with Mormonism are you anti-Mormon? Would that mean you hate mormons? No.

It's the same way with gay marriage. If you disagree with it or the gay lifestyle that doesn't mean you hate gay people.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Are you sure? Because in the past you've labeled anyone even the least bit critical of the actions of the state of Israel as anti-semetic.

Ring_of_fire

I consider those who are against Israel's right to exist as anti-semitic, not because they disagree with some of it's policies.

It would be like someone saying they are against gay people existing, that would clearly be bigoted. But simply disagreeing with it or them getting married does not.

Well that's your problem then. You should try to be a more open minded person.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I covered that in my response.:|LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]you're just using semantics.

You're using the word "disagree" to justify bigotry.

For example you can "disagree" with the life style of asians and not hire them because you "disagree" right?

ShadowMoses900

No that's just dumb logic. Many of you disagree with religion right? Are you an anti-religious bigot? (Some of you probably are)

If you disagree with say, Islam are you anti-Muslim? No. If you disagree with Mormonism are you anti-Mormon? Would that mean you hate mormons? No.

It's the same way with gay marriage. If you disagree with it or the gay lifestyle that doesn't mean you hate gay people.

Then the same can be said for those that don't allow the opposing opinion. Bigot is a tricky word to throw around.LJS9502_basic

You should try to be a more open minded person.ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]You should try to be a more open minded person.MrPraline

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"] This

Abbeten

No that's just dumb logic. Many of you disagree with religion right? Are you an anti-religious bigot? (Some of you probably are)

If you disagree with say, Islam are you anti-Muslim? No. If you disagree with Mormonism are you anti-Mormon? Would that mean you hate mormons? No.

It's the same way with gay marriage. If you disagree with it or the gay lifestyle that doesn't mean you hate gay people.

I'm not denying them anything, I said I want them to have all the same rights. Just marriage it's self is between a man and a woman and that's how it is. Perhaps trying to go against that is bigotry?

[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No that's just dumb logic. Many of you disagree with religion right? Are you an anti-religious bigot? (Some of you probably are)

If you disagree with say, Islam are you anti-Muslim? No. If you disagree with Mormonism are you anti-Mormon? Would that mean you hate mormons? No.

It's the same way with gay marriage. If you disagree with it or the gay lifestyle that doesn't mean you hate gay people.

ShadowMoses900

I'm not denying them anything, I said I want them to have all the same rights. Just marriage it's self is between a man and a woman and that's how it is. Perhaps trying to go against that is bigotry?

[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Dude....I don't know. Some people just don't believe that. Perhaps because historically the culture has been man and woman. I can't speak for them.

I'm not against gay marriage by the way. I'm against ALL marriage.:P

LJS9502_basic

I believe in Palestine DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I consider those who are against Israel's right to exist as anti-semitic, not because they disagree with some of it's policies.

It would be like someone saying they are against gay people existing, that would clearly be bigoted. But simply disagreeing with it or them getting married does not.

ShadowMoses900

Well that's your problem then. You should try to be a more open minded person.

Would you vote against the legalization of gay marriage, shadow?dave123321

They offered it on my state ballot and I voted against gay marriage.

Just marriage it's self is between a man and a woman and that's how it is.ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Would you vote against the legalization of gay marriage, shadow?ShadowMoses900

They offered it on my state ballot and I voted against gay marriage.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"] I have a hard time seeing seeing "I disagree with the homosexual lifestyle" (when it is just being homosexual/bisexual/trans) as anything but bigoted.Ring_of_fire

Well that's your problem then. You should try to be a more open minded person.

It's not bigoted. It's your problem that you can't understand different views without labeling somebody with a hate word that doesn't support your agenda.

[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No that's just dumb logic. Many of you disagree with religion right? Are you an anti-religious bigot? (Some of you probably are)

If you disagree with say, Islam are you anti-Muslim? No. If you disagree with Mormonism are you anti-Mormon? Would that mean you hate mormons? No.

It's the same way with gay marriage. If you disagree with it or the gay lifestyle that doesn't mean you hate gay people.

ShadowMoses900

I'm not denying them anything, I said I want them to have all the same rights. Just marriage it's self is between a man and a woman and that's how it is. Perhaps trying to go against that is bigotry?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

If you disagree with Judaism no it does not. I disagree with Mormonism but I'm not anti-Mormon.

ShadowMoses900

Are you sure? Because in the past you've labeled anyone even the least bit critical of the actions of the state of Israel as anti-semetic.

I consider those who are against Israel's right to exist as anti-semitic, not because they disagree with some of it's policies.

It would be like someone saying they are against gay people existing, that would clearly be bigoted. But simply disagreeing with it or them getting married does not.

Except that in the past, at least, you basically have accused anyone who diagreed with any of Israel's policies as being against Israel's right to exist and labelled them as anti-semites.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]No you didn't lol.

Yusuke420

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Would you vote against the legalization of gay marriage, shadow?MrPraline

They offered it on my state ballot and I voted against gay marriage.

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Well that's your problem then. You should try to be a more open minded person.

ShadowMoses900

It's not bigoted. It's your problem that you can't understand different views without labeling somebody with a hate word that doesn't support your agenda.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]@Shadow Moses, asked this before, don't believe I got an answer from you. If I said "I disagree with the Jewish lifestyle", would you label me an anti-Semite/you?worlock77

If you disagree with Judaism no it does not. I disagree with Mormonism but I'm not anti-Mormon.

Are you sure? Because in the past you've labeled anyone even the least bit critical of the actions of the state of Israel as anti-semetic.

I don't think that's exactly true..but anyhow, it's only anti-semetic if you criticize Israel for doing X, but Arab nations also do X but you're fine with it.