Obama: Fox News is 'destructive' to America

Obama is destructive to America, not Fox news.

p2250

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="Sajo7"] No he didn't, he just accused him of supporting ACORN, not whether he thinks that Fox News was justified in posting a completely false story.

sSubZerOo

:| This was no error.. This was blantant.. Are you trying to tell me that they are going to allow some story by some conservative activists on with out doing a background check or doing research of their own? Either they didn't, or their research really sucks... Furthermore the damage was done, and ACORN was brought down for this... Stuff like this scares me, because it basically means that they can do this for really any organization they don't like regardless if they are actually corrupt or not.

.................. Watch the original one.. If they watched the full version that came out, they would never have been able to make the claims that it supporst the prostitution ring or child slavery.. :|

sSubZerOo

Oh okay, I didn't know that had the full video. Just read the story. Watching it now.

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[QUOTE="sajo7"] It is actually an article about how she exposed them. With, you know, factual information.Sajo7

▲ Well I think any sort of extremism biased media is not constructive. However, this does not only apply to FOX news. ▲

And I said, many things Obama said is 10000x descrtuctive than Fox News. I don't care about Fox News, I don't watch it. But, Obama is the president of US, which means his action has 10000x more influences to US. And seriously, leave freedom of speech alone, Fox News can do whatever they like for all I care. It is freedom of speech. Unless it is matter of national security, Obama should not interfere.magicalclick

The beauty of freedom of speech is that is goes both ways, someone has the freedom to say anything, and other people have the freedom to criticize what they say. That's the value of it.

That being said, politically he probably shouldn't have said anything, though it's nice to see someone speak honestly (and what I believe to be correctly) despite the politics at play.

[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]The video..you know..that he told me to watch..was you know.. a liberal MSNBC talk show host..you know..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

And I said, many things Obama said is 10000x descrtuctive than Fox News. I don't care about Fox News, I don't watch it. But, Obama is the president of US, which means his action has 10000x more influences to US. And seriously, leave freedom of speech alone, Fox News can do whatever they like for all I care. It is freedom of speech. Unless it is matter of national security, Obama should not interfere.magicalclick

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[QUOTE="sajo7"] It is actually an article about how she exposed them. With, you know, factual information.sSubZerOo

Who quotes the investigation of the Attorney General of California, the actual investigator of ACORN on this incident, in which he found the claim completely fraudlent.. What this has anything to do with left or right is beyond me...

The only thing destructive to America is stupid people who need a news station to tell them what to think.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="Sajo7"] The California Attorney General backed her up on that report.Sajo7

I'd say Obama (more specifically, his policies) is more destructive to America, but that's just me. Not excusing Fox here.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

.................. Watch the original one.. If they watched the full version that came out, they would never have been able to make the claims that it supporst the prostitution ring or child slavery.. :|

airshocker

Oh okay, I didn't know that had the full video. Just read the story. Watching it now.

Take for instance the head of that Acorn center.. FOX wanted to make them look like he was supporting child slavery in asking as much information as possible and being passive.. It would seem that way.. IF it were not for the fact the guy called police RIGHT after they left to inform them on it.. Something Fox conveintly left out.. Not defending ACORN here, I do think they are corrupt for things.. But this was just a complete bogus report.. And it scares me if journalism ran by frauds can bring down organizations, people etc.

I don't think Obama should make those kinds of comments TBH.....LJS9502_basic

The only thing destructive to America is stupid people who need a news station to tell them what to think.

Upparoom

Yeah, that...or the thousands of other threats...But, you know.

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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Which is why i'm researching it for myself..Xx_Hopeless_xX

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I don't think Obama should make those kinds of comments TBH.....Baconbits2004

FOX News is the only news station Obama doesn't have under his influence.

Now he's trying to censor them; simply put, that's communism.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I don't think Obama should make those kinds of comments TBH.....Baconbits2004

it helps enforce an us vs them mentality that conservatives will use.

[QUOTE="Citrus25"]Is Obama right?topsemag55

Because he's the head of a country and he should keep those thoughts to himself. It's a bit tacky...and will in no way help his political party in elections.LJS9502_basic

So Obama should protect freedom of speach, while denying his own?

it helps enforce an us vs them mentality that conservatives will use.UnknownSniper65

Hm, her argument about his shirt is a bit flimsy. Until I see a video of him walking out not in the get-up he walked in with, I don't recognize her points.

I can somewhat see her point about the Vera guy, but until I see the AG report(who is a lib) and the Police report, I'm not sure what to make of it. Because it could be either one. And since I have a hard time believeing anything Mad Cow Maddow has to say...well, you get the picture.

Now the last part, the most damning, who cares if she turned away from O'Keefe when he said she was a prostitute? She heard him. She didn't do a damn thing to get them out of the office right then and there. I'll concede the video makers definitely edited the video and didn't give the full context, but that last part is still pretty bad. As soon as the guy said she was a prostitute, she could have asked them to leave.

Now, as with the thing that happened with Shirley Sherrod, I don't see how the video itself is Fox's fault.

I'd say a little of both. Neither Obama nor Fox News are helping america by decrying the other. Your always going to have critics and people that don't like you no matter what you do. But disparaging them and trying to suppress their voice is a bad policy. That's what Hugo Chavez does in Venezuela. He's passed a law where it is illegal for the press to criticize him. I'd rather not have that kind of policy here.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Because he's the head of a country and he should keep those thoughts to himself. It's a bit tacky...and will in no way help his political party in elections.Baconbits2004

So Obama should protect freedom of speach, while denying his own?

For those people bashing Obama for this statement, why? Obama is a Person just as well as a President, and he is clearly just stating his opinion on something as a Person. Thats protected under the 1st amendment, the same amendment that allows Fox News to function in the first place. It would be different if he were trying to pass a bill to censor Fox News, but since he's not, there is nothing too controversial to see here.

Not supporting Fox =/= not supporting freedom of the press.scorch-62

Those are completely outside of this job description. Government should not comment on how private business works. Unless there is a government regulation or national security involved, government should not interfere and not comment at all.magicalclick

For those people bashing Obama for this statement, why? Obama is a Person just as well as a President, and he is clearly just stating his opinion on something as a Person. Thats protected under the 1st amendment, the same amendment that allows Fox News to function in the first place. It would be different if he were trying to pass a bill to censor Fox News, but since he's not, there is nothing too controversial to see here.

Grodus5

Agreed, he just stated his personal opinion, he said nothing to suggest censorship. Plus this was in a magazine interview, not any kind of official press release. If anything Obama is advancing the virtue of freedom of speech. He is challenging a wildly popular media outlet, which will at worse just get people thinking more critically about the issue. It may not be the best for his political party, but it increases the quality of democracy.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Because he's the head of a country and he should keep those thoughts to himself. It's a bit tacky...and will in no way help his political party in elections.magicalclick

So Obama should protect freedom of speach, while denying his own?

Privately, YES. Publicly on behave of the President of United States, NO. There are many things a CEO can not talk on behave of the company. Period.

I don't think this really needs to be stated.... it's true, sure, but it's not going to do anything but put FOX in the limelight even more. Which is certainly not going to hurt them, considering their modus operandi.

Also, it's so damn cute so see the usual suspects in this thread getting riled up and throwing logical fallacies everywhere. Again. Clearly, anyone with a half-functional brain could tell you that giving his opinion on a news channel as an answer to an interview question, however derogatory, does not equal actively attacking them or even more preposterously, attempting to suppress their right to free speech. But hey, it's just context - since when did that matter when talking about Obama?

[QUOTE="scorch-62"]Not supporting Fox =/= not supporting freedom of the press.Genetic_Code

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Because he's the head of a country and he should keep those thoughts to himself. It's a bit tacky...and will in no way help his political party in elections.LJS9502_basic

So Obama should protect freedom of speach, while denying his own?

[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]Not supporting Fox =/= not supporting freedom of the press.p2250

What a thin skinned baby.

Regardless if you think Fox News is ridiculous or not, it's only because it challenges him and his administration that he singles them out.

It's nice to hear a different perspective, other than all the news stations giving everything he does less scruitiny.

If you don't like it, don't watch it.

He just crying because its's destructive to his reelection.

But he shouldn't have to worry because all the weak minded, fox watchers didn't vote for him, right?

[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]Not supporting Fox =/= not supporting freedom of the press.p2250

Obama is destructive to America, not Fox news.

p2250

ITT: Liberals say yes while conservatives say no.

Obviously, I say yes. :P

GabuEx

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[QUOTE="p2250"][QUOTE="Genetic_Code"] Good point.rragnaar

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[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]

So Obama should protect freedom of speach, while denying his own?

Baconbits2004

[QUOTE="p2250"]

Obama is destructive to America, not Fox news.

Jakesta7

http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions

I don't think any real fiscal conservative would want to be associated with Fox.