Obama: Fox News is 'destructive' to America

He's right. Fox and MSNBC encourage extreme partisanship but only Fox goes so far as to distort the truth and outright lie to their audience.

The president said they are destructive to America, that is a little ridiculous.Jakesta7

[QUOTE="Jakesta7"][QUOTE="p2250"]

Obama is destructive to America, not Fox news.

Sajo7

http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions

I don't think any real fiscal conservative would want to be associated with Fox.

Fox's audience is all elderly people who are also more likely to watch tv than the rest of the population for their news. Therefore fox news has best ratings =/= fox news most used news source by all groups. Also the majority of the public supported slavery, that doesn't make it correct. To bring up ratings is a non-point.

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[QUOTE="magicalclick"]

Privately, YES. Publicly on behave of the President of United States, NO. There are many things a CEO can not talk on behave of the company. Period.

magicalclick

While I don't think to that extreme of communism, but, I don't like how he just trash talk around instead of doing some honest real work. I can listen to all his complaints about everything, but, ultimately, people still can't get a job, insurance still gets more expensive. If he really solved those issues, I would just let his trash talking slide. But, I haven't see anything constructive yet, aside from redoing my cities sidewalk, which has nothing wrong with it to begin with.

I voted him becausehe knowsthe issues. But, sadly I haven't seen the issues being fixed. And I am not buying the "it takes time" argument.

We've been digging ourselves into this hole for almost 40 years now, it take far longer than 2 to dig ourselves back out.

I think that was the dumbest thing Obama could have done. All he did was just bring Fox News to his level and give them more viewers. .

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It's not about free speech. He's free to say what he wants....that doesn't mean he should. It's a low cIass move.

LJS9502_basic

I see your point that he should not 'hurl insults' but I don't really see the insult I guess. He very clearly said it was his opinion, and feels that they're at odds with eachother.
I really don't see it as being any different than saying he doesn't agree with right-wing policies, which we'll surely be hearing more of come election time.

But, you don't seem to care for polititions in general, so I suppose my opinions on them do not really matter at this point....

Looks like Fox just picked up a false story...it happens..and their reporting on the incident did notlead to Vera being fired..or any other employees..the original posts on O'Keef's site did..because they spread to Youtube and so forth..

[QUOTE="Jakesta7"]The president said they are destructive to America, that is a little ridiculous.rragnaar

I can't really blame either of them, myself. They stay on the air because they're giving the people what they want. The problem in a country with a democracy and a free market is that we are the ultimate determinants of everything. Everything that happens is our own damn fault. :P

I don't think Obama should make those kinds of comments TBH.....LJS9502_basic

FOX News is the only news station Obama doesn't have under his influence.

Now he's trying to censor them; simply put, that's communism.

p2250

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[QUOTE="magicalclick"]

While I don't think to that extreme of communism, but, I don't like how he just trash talk around instead of doing some honest real work. I can listen to all his complaints about everything, but, ultimately, people still can't get a job, insurance still gets more expensive. If he really solved those issues, I would just let his trash talking slide. But, I haven't see anything constructive yet, aside from redoing my cities sidewalk, which has nothing wrong with it to begin with.

I voted him becausehe knowsthe issues. But, sadly I haven't seen the issues being fixed. And I am not buying the "it takes time" argument.

magicalclick

We've been digging ourselves into this hole for almost 40 years now, it take far longer than 2 to dig ourselves back out.

I guess Bill Clinton is bad too. 40 years of sadness.

It began with Reagan.

I can't really blame either of them, myself. They stay on the air because they're giving the people what they want. The problem in a country with a democracy and a free market is that we are the ultimate determinants of everything. Everything that happens is our own damn fault. :P

GabuEx

Obama is destructive to America, not Fox news.

p2250

got that right.

Obama knows Fox News is trying to ruin what Obama wants to pass so he is trying to fire back. i wont be surprise if one day Obama shuts down Fox News and says it is a threat to America

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I don't think Obama should make those kinds of comments TBH.....StopThePresses

FOX News is the only news station Obama doesn't have under his influence.

Now he's trying to censor them; simply put, that's communism.

p2250

[QUOTE="Jakesta7"][QUOTE="p2250"]

Obama is destructive to America, not Fox news.

Sajo7

http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions

I don't think any real fiscal conservative would want to be associated with Fox.

http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/mary-kate-cary/2009/10/14/fox-news-less-biased-than-cnn-msnbc-in-white-house-coverage-

Read it and weep.

i thought it was a comedy show

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Baconbits2004"] I don't see anything low class about his quote from the article. Is there perhaps more to this story that I'm not seeing?Baconbits2004

I see your point that he should not 'hurl insults' but I don't really see the insult I guess. He very clearly said it was his opinion, and feels that they're at odds with eachother.
I really don't see it as being any different than saying he doesn't agree with right-wing policies, which we'll surely be hearing more of come election time.

But, you don't seem to care for polititions in general, so I suppose my opinions on them do not really matter at this point....

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[QUOTE="Jakesta7"]This^^ Fox News speaks the truth, other news stations are too liberal to tell everything. And I guess that's why Fox News gets the top ratings over all the other news stations???Jakesta7

http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions

I don't think any real fiscal conservative would want to be associated with Fox.

http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/mary-kate-cary/2009/10/14/fox-news-less-biased-than-cnn-msnbc-in-white-house-coverage-

Read it and weep.

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Shepard Smith
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Shepard Smith 3

Also that poll only counts Fox's actual half hour of news, not the other 23 and a half hours.

[QUOTE="p2250"]

Obama is destructive to America, not Fox news.

Jakesta7

if you guys want true hard core news listen to KFI-AM640 ( Los Anagles area) or go to kfiam640.com ;)

I think he used too much hyperbole for the occasion.....and I can't say whether he's right or not....I don't watch Fox News.:P

LJS9502_basic

I have on occasion.
They tend to use much, much more hyperbole... perhaps that's why I see his quote as being rather... tame. :P

[QUOTE="Sajo7"]

[QUOTE="Jakesta7"]This^^ Fox News speaks the truth, other news stations are too liberal to tell everything. And I guess that's why Fox News gets the top ratings over all the other news stations???Jakesta7

http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions

I don't think any real fiscal conservative would want to be associated with Fox.

http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/mary-kate-cary/2009/10/14/fox-news-less-biased-than-cnn-msnbc-in-white-house-coverage-

Read it and weep.

EDIT: Sorry I didn't catch this earlier but I noticed the study only relates to the evening news block for Fox, not the many more popular shows it currently has.

[QUOTE="nZiFFLe"]

Why does he single-out Fox?

Hemmaroids

Why does he single-out Fox?

[QUOTE="nZiFFLe"]

Why does he single-out Fox?

Hemmaroids

Why does he single-out Fox?

Well....since Fox is the only major American news network that doesn'tput a halo above the President's head.....his statement is understandable.

the tax cuts for the rich is stupid. if it is such a big deal GIVE everyone tax cuts.

what happened is no one pays the same amount of tax that the other person pays.

if Obama or anypresident wants to make a change in the tax cose. they should force the IRS to start charging a 10% tax on income FOR ALL Americans not just one type of class. that way everyone pays a fair share of taxes. that way no one can cry and moan about how its is unfair that they pay more taxes then the other person.

also Obama has spent the amount of money in 2 years in office and took George Bush 8 years to do.

Obama is making our country to fall. with the heath bill going to take us in the more debit. he wants to pass the green eco bill that will force a lot of businesses to go out of business and home owners to lose more homes.

i still can not believe that people are still supporting Obama with all the facts right in there faces it just sad.

"care for the people that dont care"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU

I'll leave it at that.

Edit: Linkified!

Question: What do you think of Fox News? Do you think it's a good institution for America and for democracy?

Answer:

"Look, as president, I swore to uphold the Constitution, and part of that Constitution is a free press. We've got a tradition in this country of a press that oftentimes is opinionated. The golden age of an objective press was a pretty narrow span of time in our history. Before that, you had folks like Hearst who used their newspapers very intentionally to promote their viewpoints. I think Fox is part of that tradition — it is part of the tradition that has a very clear, undeniable point of view. It's a point of view that I disagree with. It's a point of view that I think is ultimately destructive for the long-term growth of a country that has a vibrant middle class and is competitive in the world. But as an economic enterprise, it's been wildly successful. And I suspect that if you ask Mr. Murdoch what his number-one concern is, it's that Fox is very successful."

Opera?

the tax cuts for the rich is stupid. if it is such a big deal GIVE everyone tax cuts.

what happened is no one pays the same amount of tax that the other person pays.

if Obama or anypresident wants to make a change in the tax cose. they should force the IRS to start charging a 10% tax on income FOR ALL Americans not just one type of class. that way everyone pays a fair share of taxes. that way no one can cry and moan about how its is unfair that they pay more taxes then the other person.

also Obama has spent the amount of money in 2 years in office and took George Bush 8 years to do.

Obama is making our country to fall. with the heath bill going to take us in the more debit. he wants to pass the green eco bill that will force a lot of businesses to go out of business and home owners to lose more homes.

i still can not believe that people are still supporting Obama with all the facts right in there faces it just sad.

"care for the people that dont care"

acsam12304

People like Obama, Opera, Pope are very powerful and influential. When they speak, it is not just a simple personal opinion, it has very very large implication on how people thinks. With great power comes with great responsibility. magicalclick

of course he thinks it's "destructive". They are against his policies. I wish he'd stop being a cry baby. Bush didn't complain about time magazine shunning every little thing he did.

You can bet that Obama would love nothing more than to shut down FOX News.

At least all he can do is attack them, I hope FOX news uses this to their advantage.

Question: What do you think of Fox News? Do you think it's a good institution for America and for democracy?

Answer:

"Look, as president, I swore to uphold the Constitution, and part of that Constitution is a free press. We've got a tradition in this country of a press that oftentimes is opinionated. The golden age of an objective press was a pretty narrow span of time in our history. Before that, you had folks like Hearst who used their newspapers very intentionally to promote their viewpoints. I think Fox is part of that tradition - it is part of the tradition that has a very clear, undeniable point of view. It's a point of view that I disagree with. It's a point of view that I think is ultimately destructive for the long-term growth of a country that has a vibrant middle class and is competitive in the world. But as an economic enterprise, it's been wildly successful. And I suspect that if you ask Mr. Murdoch what his number-one concern is, it's that Fox is very successful."

Former_Slacker

Question: What do you think of Fox News? Do you think it's a good institution for America and for democracy?

Answer:

"Look, as president, I swore to uphold the Constitution, and part of that Constitution is a free press. We've got a tradition in this country of a press that oftentimes is opinionated. The golden age of an objective press was a pretty narrow span of time in our history. Before that, you had folks like Hearst who used their newspapers very intentionally to promote their viewpoints. I think Fox is part of that tradition - it is part of the tradition that has a very clear, undeniable point of view. It's a point of view that I disagree with. It's a point of view that I think is ultimately destructive for the long-term growth of a country that has a vibrant middle class and is competitive in the world. But as an economic enterprise, it's been wildly successful. And I suspect that if you ask Mr. Murdoch what his number-one concern is, it's that Fox is very successful."

Former_Slacker

[QUOTE="acsam12304"]

the tax cuts for the rich is stupid. if it is such a big deal GIVE everyone tax cuts.

what happened is no one pays the same amount of tax that the other person pays.

if Obama or anypresident wants to make a change in the tax cose. they should force the IRS to start charging a 10% tax on income FOR ALL Americans not just one type of class. that way everyone pays a fair share of taxes. that way no one can cry and moan about how its is unfair that they pay more taxes then the other person.

also Obama has spent the amount of money in 2 years in office and took George Bush 8 years to do.

Obama is making our country to fall. with the heath bill going to take us in the more debit. he wants to pass the green eco bill that will force a lot of businesses to go out of business and home owners to lose more homes.

i still can not believe that people are still supporting Obama with all the facts right in there faces it just sad.

"care for the people that dont care"

Sajo7

to bad that common sense can not be linked. also to bad stuff you hear from people can not be linked too.

and if you want to see prove read the health bill that was signed into law.

matter a fact read my blog on here it talks about the health bill.

the green eco bill

will force EVERY company that produces green house gases to have to BUY "carb" credits meaning that will be a big huge extra expense to every single company that owns tractors, trucking company, cement, companys. UPS, Fed-EX etc. also because if that bill passes it will force all oil companys to add more structures and make sure the oil to make gas for cars to be more less harmful. meaning gas prices go up double or even triple, thats why california prices are higher then the rest of the nation at $3 per gallon.

another thing that that bill will force is ALL home owners to buy green friendly appliances. washer, dryers, water heaters, dish washers etc. if not they will never be able to sell there home and will be fined. they way this will work is a government junkie will be sent to the home and will go through the home and give them a rating to see if they pass or not. if not they will fail the test and will have to correct the problem. its like the DMV do with smog checks. if you fail you have this amount of time to fix the problem.

so tell me how does can anyone buy whole new gree friendly appliaces in this economy? let alone green eno friendly products cost amr and leg to buy?

all that is also in the bill that obama is trying to pass look it up.

thats my prove

"care for the people that dont care, even if its a dumb obama supporter"

Crying about fox news during an interview, where they probably asked him what his opinion is... on fox news. Baconbits2004

Exactamundo. The interview question specifically asked him about Fox News.

[QUOTE="acsam12304"]

the tax cuts for the rich is stupid. if it is such a big deal GIVE everyone tax cuts.

what happened is no one pays the same amount of tax that the other person pays.

if Obama or anypresident wants to make a change in the tax cose. they should force the IRS to start charging a 10% tax on income FOR ALL Americans not just one type of class. that way everyone pays a fair share of taxes. that way no one can cry and moan about how its is unfair that they pay more taxes then the other person.

also Obama has spent the amount of money in 2 years in office and took George Bush 8 years to do.

Obama is making our country to fall. with the heath bill going to take us in the more debit. he wants to pass the green eco bill that will force a lot of businesses to go out of business and home owners to lose more homes.

i still can not believe that people are still supporting Obama with all the facts right in there faces it just sad.

"care for the people that dont care"

magicalclick

What really angers me is, the health care, I paid, and I get none. I have being discriminated by the government and rejected by health care application. Simply because the private company did not reject me.

What is worse. My friend who is nearly broke with large debt on his hand......... is still not eligible to the health care because the private company did not deny him, they just charge him 600+ aMONTH cuz he is older.

And I seriosuly don't consider myself making enough money to be independent, 40k a year. I still need to live with my parents with my current pay check. California rental is too expensive.And 1/4 of my pay chack is gone before I can use it. My bro is about 70K and 1/2 of check is gone. I mean, Canada is flat 40%, which is less than my bro's 50%.After all that, we get no health care.

I am just not sure what's going on.

What? The vast majority of the law doesn't go into effect until 2014.

the tax cuts for the rich is stupid. if it is such a big deal GIVE everyone tax cuts.

what happened is no one pays the same amount of tax that the other person pays.

if Obama or anypresident wants to make a change in the tax cose. they should force the IRS to start charging a 10% tax on income FOR ALL Americans not just one type of class. that way everyone pays a fair share of taxes. that way no one can cry and moan about how its is unfair that they pay more taxes then the other person.

also Obama has spent the amount of money in 2 years in office and took George Bush 8 years to do.

Obama is making our country to fall. with the heath bill going to take us in the more debit. he wants to pass the green eco bill that will force a lot of businesses to go out of business and home owners to lose more homes.

i still can not believe that people are still supporting Obama with all the facts right in there faces it just sad.

"care for the people that dont care"

acsam12304