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#51 DevilMightCry
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"] No, it's more likely that it's because she's an idiot and a bigot.

What do OWS have to do with religion, and social matters? Nothing. It's just a nutty part of liberal Democrat movement, that scream and yell at anyone that they disagree with.

Michelle Bachmann has much to do with religion and social matters (like many conservatives). Separate the fiscal conservatism from the social conservatism, and I'm sure that the type of people that attend events such as OWS would support them a bit more. Do you really expect someone who states that gay marriage is probably the biggest issue" to garner support from the type of crowd that is in OWS?

Ok, but at the same time, why would I shout at Obama if he fixed the debt crisis and the economy, just because he can't seperate his socialist, Marxist views from governing principles. I don't disagree with the man as a whole for the %40 I only agree with.
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Doesn't supirse me. Of course everybody thinks that this is just the right wing government cracking down on freedoms. Though you would think the citizens of NYC and these other cities would get sick of some of their parks (and often private property) being ruined and unusable for the duration of these protests.

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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] Ok, but at the same time, why would I shout at Obama if he fixed the debt crisis and the economy, just because he can't seperate his socialist, Marxist views from governing principles. I don't disagree with the man as a whole for the %40 I only agree with.

You lost me at Obama and socialist, Marxist views.
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Doesn't supirse me. Of course everybody thinks that this is just the right wing government cracking down on freedoms. Though you would think the citizens of NYC and these other cities would get sick of some of their parks (and often private property) being ruined and unusable for the duration of these protests.

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Just imagine if we had a republican president. My goodness...
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Doesn't supirse me. Of course everybody thinks that this is just the right wing government cracking down on freedoms. Though you would think the citizens of NYC and these other cities would get sick of some of their parks (and often private property) being ruined and unusable for the duration of these protests.

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They are leaving out the part where some of them were tossing stuff at random at the police and one cop had to be taken to the ER with leg injuries.
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#56 DevilMightCry
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[QUOTE="Kcube"][QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"] No, it's more likely that it's because she's an idiot and a bigot.

What do OWS have to do with religion, and social matters? Nothing. It's just a nutty part of liberal Democrat movement, that scream and yell at anyone that they disagree with.

Kinda like the Tea party isn't it.

No. Not like the tea party one bit. I attented Tea Party rallies and the agenda of the TP was fiscal and spending. Were there religios people? Yes. But the movement was about healthcare and spending, anf not on gay rights, and whatnot. Also TP were peaceful and non vandalizing.
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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="Kcube"][QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] What do OWS have to do with religion, and social matters? Nothing. It's just a nutty part of liberal Democrat movement, that scream and yell at anyone that they disagree with.

Kinda like the Tea party isn't it.

No. Not like the tea party one bit. I attented Tea Party rallies and the agenda of the TP was fiscal and spending. Were there religios people? Yes. But the movement was about healthcare and spending, anf not on gay rights, and whatnot. Also TP were peaceful and non vandalizing.

....thats nice
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Let them get kicked out, I don't support the OWS movement at all. Bunch of over-privileged yuppies and hipsters, Expecting to get High paying jobs for minimal effort. Yet what they dont realize is that if they do get what they want, and the stock brokers do come into the job market they will be the ones getting the jobs. Most Stock Brokers are Sharks, they kill and feed on deals. They will take any job that comes by them and work their way to the top, That means Teaching jobs that get a generous salary and great benefits, and (Especially guilty in NYC) The transit workers (A little tidbit of info, the Janitors in the NYC subway system earn more then the train conductors and the bus drivers, And they hardly do any work).
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

Gas the bastards and move in with the rubber bullets. Their silly little movement should have come to an end weeks ago.

QuistisTrepe_

Look, I'm no fan of OWS, but you serious?

These whiny little ******* are a pestilence. I have to put up with these punks here in Oakland. And what I get are disease-ridden, smelly hippies infesting my neighborhood, committing vandalism of small businesses (I guess they're the evil 1% too), theft, and violent crime (despite what you've been hearing about their allegedly peaceful demonstrations). They're not achieving anything, they're costing us millions for law enforcement sweeping the city, dispersing their encampments and bringing small businesses to a standstill with all the ruckus, interfering with mass transit, while drawing lawless lunatics from all corners of the Bay Area.

I want these people gone by any means necessary. They've had their say, the party is over. This isn't about ideology, it's about returning to civilized society.

Your idea to return to civilized society is to cause great harm to protestors by shooting them with rubber bullets, possibly causing sever injuries, life changing injuries or even death?

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#60 Blue-Sky
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I decent comparison between OWS and Tea Party.

It's not accurate and has many generalization and estimates
So don't take it too literal.

Do not quote the picture to avoid modding for disruptive posting.

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Great pic :P
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#62 DevilMightCry
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Yeah, that poster is fun, but not factual.
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#63 LaytonsCat
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Thank God, that took way way too long. They didn't know what they were protesting there are no leader it was just a silly silly mess

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#64 Kcube
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Thank God, that took way way too long. They didn't know what they were protesting there are no leader it was just a silly silly mess

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Actually they voted in a Dog to lead them in denver..if that counts? So far the Dog is ahead of every other runner in the polls too :P
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[QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]

Thank God, that took way way too long. They didn't know what they were protesting there are no leader it was just a silly silly mess

Kcube

Actually they voted in a Dog to lead them in denver..if that counts? So far the Dog is ahead of every other runner in the polls too :P

You kinda proved my point. They should just have arrested them all two months ago.

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if i recall they was all told to leave hours before they was forcefully removed to clean the park. and once the park was cleaned they be allowed back. NOW idk how true this is as i don't follow every news nor there.

Tell you truth they need go DC. congress, white house, ect. wallstreeters is just playing the system. It may not seem right but blame the real people who allows it keep happening, blame the people who has the power to change but don't.

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if i recall they was all told to leave hours before they was forcefully removed to clean the park. and once the park was cleaned they be allowed back. NOW idk how true this is as i don't follow every news nor there.

Tell you truth they need go DC. congress, white house, ect. wallstreeters is just playing the system. It may not seem right but blame the real people who allows it keep happening, blame the people who has the power to change but don't.

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They are going to DC.
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Thank God, that took way way too long. They didn't know what they were protesting there are no leader it was just a silly silly mess

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I dont have a problem with them protesting - as long as they do it legally. I just dont like when protesters start destroying property or preventing others from doing their jobs.
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#69 k2theswiss
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[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]

if i recall they was all told to leave hours before they was forcefully removed to clean the park. and once the park was cleaned they be allowed back. NOW idk how true this is as i don't follow every news nor there.

Tell you truth they need go DC. congress, white house, ect. wallstreeters is just playing the system. It may not seem right but blame the real people who allows it keep happening, blame the people who has the power to change but don't.

Engrish_Major

They are going to DC.

... not moving fast enough...

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="k2theswiss"]

if i recall they was all told to leave hours before they was forcefully removed to clean the park. and once the park was cleaned they be allowed back. NOW idk how true this is as i don't follow every news nor there.

Tell you truth they need go DC. congress, white house, ect. wallstreeters is just playing the system. It may not seem right but blame the real people who allows it keep happening, blame the people who has the power to change but don't.

k2theswiss

They are going to DC.

... not moving fast enough...

they are there to demand the same stuff they are doing else where, so i am not sure you want to endorse their actions in DC.

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I decent comparison between OWS and Tea Party.

It's not accurate and has many generalization and estimates
So don't take it too literal.

Do not quote the picture to avoid modding for disruptive posting.

Blue-Sky

The ONLY way you can put "Racist" into the "Who Are They (Tea Party)" is if you put "Rapist/Sexual Predator" in the "Who Are They (OWS)."

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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I decent comparison between OWS and Tea Party.

It's not accurate and has many generalization and estimates
So don't take it too literal.

Do not quote the picture to avoid modding for disruptive posting.

Planet_Pluto

The ONLY way you can put "Racist" into the "Who Are They (Tea Party)" is if you put "Rapist/Sexual Predator" in the "Who Are They (OWS)."

I suspect that there's a sweeping majority of tea party members that have very little concern for minorities and other religions. Half their members grew up in the 60's. Compare that with vast diversity of the OWS' age, gender and race and you can see where the term "racist" could have originated. I wouldn't say the TP'ers are racist but more like they're obnoxiously intolerant due to their life experiences and environment.

"Our blacks are better than their blacks" -Ann Coulter

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another day, another ot conversation going in circles...
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"Our blacks are better than their blacks" -Ann Coulter

Blue-Sky

I just have to say, once again, my blacks would slay her blacks.

You know, if it came down to it.

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[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I decent comparison between OWS and Tea Party.

It's not accurate and has many generalization and estimates
So don't take it too literal.

Do not quote the picture to avoid modding for disruptive posting.

Blue-Sky

The ONLY way you can put "Racist" into the "Who Are They (Tea Party)" is if you put "Rapist/Sexual Predator" in the "Who Are They (OWS)."

I suspect that there's a sweeping majority of tea party members that have very little concern for minorities and other religions. Half their members grew up in the 60's. Compare that with vast diversity of the OWS' age, gender and race and you can see where the term "racist" could have originated. I wouldn't say the TP'ers are racist but more like they're obnoxiously intolerant due to their life experiences and environment.

"Our blacks are better than their blacks" -Ann Coulter

You suspect. Exactly.

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Woah! OTs conservatives clashing with OTs liberals in an ideologically divided debate?

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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]The ONLY way you can put "Racist" into the "Who Are They (Tea Party)" is if you put "Rapist/Sexual Predator" in the "Who Are They (OWS)."

Planet_Pluto

I suspect that there's a sweeping majority of tea party members that have very little concern for minorities and other religions. Half their members grew up in the 60's. Compare that with vast diversity of the OWS' age, gender and race and you can see where the term "racist" could have originated. I wouldn't say the TP'ers are racist but more like they're obnoxiously intolerant due to their life experiences and environment.

"Our blacks are better than their blacks" -Ann Coulter

You suspect. Exactly.

I lol'd
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Woah! OTs conservatives clashing with OTs liberals in an ideologically divided debate?

DroidPhysX

How dare you. I have been doing no clashing.

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The "Occupy Canada" protest in my town got evicted a few days ago.

I'm not sure the whole situation (I didn't care enough to remember to look into specifics). They left the first site for an annual Remembrance Day ceremony that takes place there, but something happened with them not being allowed on the a second site. I guess they're now looking for a new site.

It doesn't seem like a huge deal though for ours being evicted. To my knowledge they're just protesting minor things, as our economy is pretty good right now. Hell, my city just got a contract for ship building that will bring in a few billion dollars and tons of jobs over the next few years.

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They should give those idiots a good bath with a fire hose and a delousing as long as they're at it. They look like they could use it.

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Yes, delicious fascism. MMMM It's exactly what we need.

Guybrush_3

What's fascist about the Police removing protesters that aren't even paying to organize and occupy property that doesn't belong to them?

And that isn't even the reason they're being removed. It's because of the criminal activity that's following these protests.

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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

Yes, delicious fascism. MMMM It's exactly what we need.

airshocker

What's fascist about the Police removing protesters that aren't even paying to organize and occupy property that doesn't belong to them?

And that isn't even the reason they're being removed. It's because of the criminal activity that's following these protests.

just because they advocate theft does not make them criminals, oh wait you were talking about the rape, drugs, and violence... my bad :P

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It's because of the criminal activity that's following these protests.

airshocker

indeed. these occupy camps are no longer filled with people actually protesting the economic situation. they are now filled with meth heads, homeless people, rapists, and other criminals.

seriously, these places have just turned into nasty tent cities~

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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

Yes, delicious fascism. MMMM It's exactly what we need.

airshocker

What's fascist about the Police removing protesters that aren't even paying to organize and occupy property that doesn't belong to them?

And that isn't even the reason they're being removed. It's because of the criminal activity that's following these protests.

These aren't really well orchestrated protests. They are bringing in all sorts of bad problems and causing problems for the rest of society.

They really should be at DC protesting. Occupying random parks making them unusable for the population is kind of counter productive. Disrupting the lives of others by block roads, parks, and damaging businesses is also not helping.

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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

It's because of the criminal activity that's following these protests.

GamingTitan

indeed. these occupy camps are no longer filled with people actually protesting the economic situation. they are now filled with meth heads, homeless people, rapists, and other criminals.

seriously, these places have just turned into nasty tent cities~

being homeless is not criminal, and i am glad some homeless are being paid to protest, it is good for them to earn some money.

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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]The ONLY way you can put "Racist" into the "Who Are They (Tea Party)" is if you put "Rapist/Sexual Predator" in the "Who Are They (OWS)."

Planet_Pluto

I suspect that there's a sweeping majority of tea party members that have very little concern for minorities and other religions. Half their members grew up in the 60's. Compare that with vast diversity of the OWS' age, gender and race and you can see where the term "racist" could have originated. I wouldn't say the TP'ers are racist but more like they're obnoxiously intolerant due to their life experiences and environment.

"Our blacks are better than their blacks" -Ann Coulter

You suspect. Exactly.

and? I'm giving insight as to why the term racist was there. Are you saying I'm wrong?

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and?

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What is this? "AND" IS NOT A SENTENCE!

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Anyone mention yet that there is a court order preventing the police from stopping them from being there with their tents? Thank god someone still gives a damn about constitutional rights.

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[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I suspect that there's a sweeping majority of tea party members that have very little concern for minorities and other religions. Half their members grew up in the 60's. Compare that with vast diversity of the OWS' age, gender and race and you can see where the term "racist" could have originated. I wouldn't say the TP'ers are racist but more like they're obnoxiously intolerant due to their life experiences and environment.

"Our blacks are better than their blacks" -Ann Coulter

Blue-Sky

You suspect. Exactly.

and? I'm giving insight as to why the term racist was there. Are you saying I'm wrong?

Yes. I am saying you are wrong. You use the age demographic, then ignore the fact that it was that very age demographic that participated in a lot of the civil rights movement(s).

Then, your grand finale was to take a quotation from one of the most extreme bomb-throwers out there.

That would be like me saying, "Well, there have been a LOT of drug busts at the "occupations," and the younger people today use more recreational drugs, so that means that I should put "Junkies" under the "Who Are They (OWS)" category.

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Anyone mention yet that there is a court order preventing the police from stopping them from being there with their tents? Thank god someone still gives a damn about constitutional rights.

EntropyWins

It's a constitutional right to set up a tent-city on privately owned land?

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Anyone mention yet that there is a court order preventing the police from stopping them from being there with their tents? Thank god someone still gives a damn about constitutional rights.

EntropyWins

It's a constitutional right to trash parks and disobey city ordinances?

Right now they are attacking the cities and the taxpayers of the cities, all who cannot do a damn thing about the financial system. They are costing the city a lot of money and distrupting people for no cause anymore.

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#92 Serraph105
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Doesn't supirse me. Of course everybody thinks that this is just the right wing government cracking down on freedoms. Though you would think the citizens of NYC and these other cities would get sick of some of their parks (and often private property) being ruined and unusable for the duration of these protests.

Wasdie
you know people say they are unusable, but the parks are most likely being used more than ever before.
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]You suspect. Exactly.

Planet_Pluto

and? I'm giving insight as to why the term racist was there. Are you saying I'm wrong?

Yes. I am saying you are wrong. You use the age demographic, then ignore the fact that it was that very age demographic that participated in a lot of the civil rights movement(s).

Then, your grand finale was to take a quotation from one of the most extreme bomb-throwers out there.

That would be like me saying, "Well, there have been a LOT of drug busts at the "occupations," and the younger people today use more recreational drugs, so that means that I should put "Junkies" under the "Who Are They (OWS)" category.

well if I'm wrong then by all means expain to me why the term "racist" was there?

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well if I'm wrong then by all means expain to me why people think republicans are racists.

Blue-Sky

The same reason people think Democrats are socialists?

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#95 ycdeo
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So silly, no one loves that place!
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#96 Necrifer
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well if I'm wrong then by all means expain to me why people think republicans are racists.

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I thought we were talking about the Tea Party. :?

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#97 Blue-Sky
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

well if I'm wrong then by all means expain to me why people think republicans are racists.

Necrifer

I thought we were talking about the Tea Party. :?

No I was trying to explain why racist was one of the generalizations in the infographic. I thought I was pretty spot on why people perceive them as racists. Their demographic being on the major contributing factors.

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#98 Blue-Sky
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

well if I'm wrong then by all means expain to me why people think republicans are racists.

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The same reason people think Democrats are socialists?

Exactly, which is why the hipster generalization was implemented on the OWS. It's for the same sweeping generalization of the demographic that creates the "racist" stereotype. That quote from Anno coulter is just an example of insensitivity from the right side. Do I think Ann is racist, nahhh, but I would fully understand if someone perceives her as one.

You're actually agreeing with me, so I'd like to hear what Planet_Pluto's opinion on why people perceive Tea partiers as racist.

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#99 EntropyWins
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Anyone mention yet that there is a court order preventing the police from stopping them from being there with their tents? Thank god someone still gives a damn about constitutional rights.

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It's a constitutional right to set up a tent-city on privately owned land?

Giving people the right to protest, but then nowhere to protest is not giving them the right to protest at all. It may be "private land", but it is a public park that is open 24 hours.
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Exactly, which is why the hipster generalization was implemented on the OWS. It's for the same sweeping generalization of the demographic that creates the "racist" stereotype. That quote from Anno coulter is just an example of insensitivity from the right side. Do I think Ann is racist, nahhh, but I would fully understand if someone perceives her as one.

Blue-Sky

So why not just call them socialists like the rest of us do? We don't call them "hipsters", though I would wager that's the only reason they support socialism.