Occupy Wall Street being ousted RIGHT NOW

Giving people the right to protest, but then nowhere to protest is not giving them the right to protest at all. It may be "private land", but it is a public park that is open 24 hours.EntropyWins

Have they paid for their permits yet?

I don't see you complaining about that, when the Tea Party has always had to buy permits to access areas in which to hold their protests.

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

and? I'm giving insight as to why the term racist was there. Are you saying I'm wrong?

Blue-Sky

Then, your grand finale was to take a quotation from one of the most extreme bomb-throwers out there.

That would be like me saying, "Well, there have been a LOT of drug busts at the "occupations," and the younger people today use more recreational drugs, so that means that I should put "Junkies" under the "Who Are They (OWS)" category.

well if I'm wrong then by all means expain to me why the term "racist" was there?

Heres some stuff I posted the other day. I guess, since it meets (or surpasses) the bar set by your pretty picture, ALL OWS-ers are a bunch of pervy-junkie-criminals after all. Cause you know, there is nothing biased out there. :roll: (The below is a partial list from the right-leaning Breitbart).

1. NY: 10/1/2011 — Police Arrest More Than 700 Protesters on Brooklyn Bridge
2. Madison, WI: 10-27-2011 — Madison Occupiers Lose Permit Due to Public Masturbation
3. Phoenix: 10/28/2011 — Flier at Occupy Phoenix Asks, "When Should You Shoot a Cop?"
4. NY: 10/18/2011 — Thieves Preying on Fellow Protesters
5. NY: 10/9/2011 — Stinking up Wall Street: Protesters Accused of Living in Filth as Shocking Pictures Show One Demonstrator Defecating on a POLICE CAR
6. NY: 10/7/2011 — Occupiers Rush Police … More
7. Cleveland: 10/18/2011 — 'Occupy Cleveland' Protester Alleges She Was Raped
8. NY: 10/10/2011 — 'Increasingly Debauched': Are Sex, Drugs & Poor Sanitation Eclipsing Occupy Wall Street?
9. Seattle: 10/18/2011 — Man Accused of Exposing Self to Children Arrested
10. 10/12/2011 — Iran Supports 'Occupy Wall Street'
11. Portland: 10/16/2011 – #OccupyPortland Protester Desecrates Memorial To U.S. War Dead
12. Portland: 10/15/2011 — #OccupyPortland Protesters Sing "F*** The USA"
13. Chicago: 10/17/2011 — COMMUNIST LEADER Cheered at Occupy Chicago
14. 10/15/2011 — American Nazi Party Endorses Occupy Wall Street's 'Courage,' Tells Members to Support Protests and Fight 'Judeo-Capitalist Banksters'
15. Boston: 10/14/2011 — Coast Guard member spit on near Occupy Boston tents
16. Boston: 10/11/2011 — Boston Police Arrest Over 100 from Occupy Boston
17. New York: 10/11/2011 — "You Can Have Sex with Animals."
18. New York: 10/15/2011 — Harassing Police with Accusations of Phony Injuries
19. New York: 10/9/2011 – 'Occupy Wallstreet' Protesters Steal from Local Businesses
20. New York: 10/25/2011 — Three Men Threatened to Kill 24-Year-Old Occupy Wall Street Protester for Reporting Rape
21. Baltimore: 10/18/2011 — #OccupyBaltimore Discourages Sexual Assault Victims from Contacting Police
22. Portland: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Portland's Attempt At Wealth Redistribution Ends In Theft
23. Los Angeles: 10/14/2011 – Anti-Semitic Protester at Occupy Wall Street
24. 10/27/2011 — A Death Threat From an Occupy Wall Street Protester
25. 10/27/2011 – Anti-Semitic Tweet From Occupier or Sympathizer
26. Boston: 10/20/2011 — Occupy Boston Doesn't Want Police Involved in Rape
27. New York: 10/5/2011: Anti-Semitic Occupier Screams About Jews, Israel
28. New York: 10/4/2011 — Occupier Taunts Jewish Man
29. Boston: 10/2011 — Occupiers Block Street
30. New York: 10/2011 — Occupier Tries to Steal Police Officer's Gun
31. New York: 10/27/2011 — Occupiers Block Traffic, Get Arrested
32. Oakland: 10/27/2011 — Occupiers Throw Garbage at Police
33. Oakland: 10/19/2011 — Abusive #OccupyOakland Protesters Ban Media from Tent City
34. Eugene, OR: 10/19/2011 — Occupiers Displace Farmers' Market Threatening Hundreds of Jobs
35. Portland, OR: 10/18/2011 — Capitalist Offering Jobs at Occupy Portland Finds Few Takers
36. NY: 10/20/2011 — #OccupyWallStreet Threatens Businesses, Patrons
37. NY: 10/14/2011 — Violence Breaks Out During #OccupyWallStreet March Toward Stock Exchange
38. NY: 10/14/2011 — Protesters March On Wall Street, Scuffle With Cops
39. Oakland: 10/19/2011 — #OccupyOakland Protesters Threaten Reporter
40. Oakland: 10/26/2011 — Occupiers Scuffle with Police
41. Oakland: 10/24/2011 — Protesters Storm, Vandalize, Shut Down Chase Bank
42. Dayton, OH: 10/22/2011 — Protester: 'F*ck The Military, F*ck Your Flag, And F*ck The Police'
43. Chicago: 10/14/2011 – Protesters' Message At #OccupyChicago Rally: 'Destroy Israel'
44. NY: 10/23/2011 — #OccupyWallStreet Supporter Rants Against Israel, Jews
45. NY: 10/22/2011 — #Occupy Kid: 'Burn Wall Street, Burn!'
46. NY: 10/21/2011 — New Yorkers Fed Up With Noisy, Defecating Protesters
47. Oakland: 10/21/2011 — Occupy Oakland Evicted After Reports Of Crime And Intimidation
48. Oakland: 10/19/2011 — #OccupyOakland Out of Control: Rats, Graffiti, Vandalism, Sexual Harassment, Public Sex and Urination
49. Chicago: 10/26/2011 – Occupiers Under Investigation by FBI for Links to Terrorism
50. Cleveland: 10/29/2011 — Rape Reported at Occupy Cleveland
51. Dallas: 10/24/2011 — Police Investigating Possible Sexual Assault Of Teen At Occupy Dallas
52. Bloomington, IN: 10/26/2011 — Man Claims Occupy Bloomington Protesters Drugged, Handcuffed Him
53. NY: 10/10/2011 — Sex, Drugs and Hiding from the Law at Wall Street Protests
54. Glasgow: 10/26/2011 — Woman Gang-Raped
55. Boston: 10/23/2011 — Occupy Boston Protesters Arrested For Dealing Heroin – With 6 Year-Old in Tent
56. Portland: 10/16/2011 – Sex Offender Registers Occupy Portland Camp as Address
57. Denver: 10/15/2011 — Occupy Denver Demonstrator Accused of Groping TV Photographer
58. Lawrence, KS: 10/25/2011 — Sexual Assault Reported at Occupy Camp
59. Minneapolis, MN: Bricks, Rocks, 'Riot Supplies' Discovered by Police
60. Phoenix, AZ: 10/27/2011 — Neo-Nazis Patrol "Occupy Phoenix" With AR-15′s
61. Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Occupy Chicago Invades City Hall
62. 10/26/2011 — ACORN, Occupy Email Talks About Assault on Banks
63. 10/26/2011 – OccupyWallStreet Strategy for Reports of Violence Against Cops
64. Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Unrepentant Domestic Terrorist Bill Ayers Wows Occupiers
65. Chicago: 10/25/2011 — Ayers Coaches #OccupyChicago, Callsg for School 'Occupations'
66. 10/26/2011/ — Occupy Protests Have Jewish Leaders Concerned
67. Wash DC: 10/27/2011 – OccupyDC Leftists Provoke Police – Hang Flag on Top of DC Statue
68. Albuquerque, NM: 10/26/2011 — Occupy Squatters Riot With Police
69. San Diego: 10/25/2011 — Flag Used as Chew Toy by Occupier's Dog
70. Oakland: 10/25/2011 — Occupiers Throw Bottles at Police
71. NY: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Protesters: Rush Limbaugh Is Bigger Threat Than Al-Qaeda
72. 10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Launching First Nationwide General Strike in America Since 1946
73. NY: 10/28/2011 — Fox 5 News Reporter Assaulted at OWS
74. 10/28/2001 — Total Occupy Arrests Made Thus Far: 2750
75. Nashville: 10/28/2011 — 30 Arrests Made at Wall St. Protest

[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]

Anyone mention yet that there is a court order preventing the police from stopping them from being there with their tents? Thank god someone still gives a damn about constitutional rights.

Wasdie

It's a constitutional right to trash parks and disobey city ordinances?

Right now they are attacking the cities and the taxpayers of the cities, all who cannot do a damn thing about the financial system. They are costing the city a lot of money and distrupting people for no cause anymore.

Them expressing their constitutional rights trumps city ordinances, as at least one judge has ruled. Also, they are not costing the city a dime. The city continually monitoring them and violent unnecessary crackdowns like last night is what is costing the taxpayers money. They should be pissed at the city. EntropyWins

Except cops have to be there to prevent crime. So yes, they are costing the city money.

No I was trying to explain why racist was one of the generalizations in the infographic. I thought I was pretty spot on why people perceive them as racists. Their demographic being on the major contributing factors.

Blue-Sky

You're not making any sense.

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

and? I'm giving insight as to why the term racist was there. Are you saying I'm wrong?

Blue-Sky

Then, your grand finale was to take a quotation from one of the most extreme bomb-throwers out there.

That would be like me saying, "Well, there have been a LOT of drug busts at the "occupations," and the younger people today use more recreational drugs, so that means that I should put "Junkies" under the "Who Are They (OWS)" category.

well if I'm wrong then by all means expain to me why the term "racist" was there?

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]Yes. I am saying you are wrong. You use the age demographic, then ignore the fact that it was that very age demographic that participated in a lot of the civil rights movement(s).

Then, your grand finale was to take a quotation from one of the most extreme bomb-throwers out there.

That would be like me saying, "Well, there have been a LOT of drug busts at the "occupations," and the younger people today use more recreational drugs, so that means that I should put "Junkies" under the "Who Are They (OWS)" category.

Planet_Pluto

well if I'm wrong then by all means expain to me why the term "racist" was there?

Heres some stuff I posted the other day. I guess, since it meets (or surpasses) the bar set by your pretty picture, ALL OWS-ers are a bunch of pervy-junkie-criminals after all. Cause you know, there is nothing biased out there. :roll: (The below is a partial list from the right-leaning Breitbart).

I honestly have no clue as to what you're arguing with me about. I clearly stated that the poster wasn't factual and has sweeping generalizations. Right above the pic....

because you got it from what is mostly a blog site geared to high school and college kids, and it would be bad not to paint your target audience in the most radiant of glowing light? nah, i like bashing baby boomers so much i will just accept that they are all racist idiots that joined the tea party, just because it fits my pre-existing feelings.

surrealnumber5

Baby boomers? That doesn't sound very wholesome.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

No I was trying to explain why racist was one of the generalizations in the infographic. I thought I was pretty spot on why people perceive them as racists. Their demographic being on the major contributing factors.

Necrifer

You're not making any sense.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Exactly, which is why the hipster generalization was implemented on the OWS. It's for the same sweeping generalization of the demographic that creates the "racist" stereotype. That quote from Anno coulter is just an example of insensitivity from the right side. Do I think Ann is racist, nahhh, but I would fully understand if someone perceives her as one.

airshocker

So why not just call them socialists like the rest of us do? We don't call them "hipsters", though I would wager that's the only reason they support socialism.

lol I don't know.

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

well if I'm wrong then by all means expain to me why the term "racist" was there?

Blue-Sky

Heres some stuff I posted the other day. I guess, since it meets (or surpasses) the bar set by your pretty picture, ALL OWS-ers are a bunch of pervy-junkie-criminals after all. Cause you know, there is nothing biased out there. :roll: (The below is a partial list from the right-leaning Breitbart).

I honestly have no clue as to what you're arguing with me about. I clearly stated that the poster wasn't factual and has sweeping generalizations. Right above the pic....

[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]Giving people the right to protest, but then nowhere to protest is not giving them the right to protest at all. It may be "private land", but it is a public park that is open 24 hours.airshocker

Have they paid for their permits yet?

I don't see you complaining about that, when the Tea Party has always had to buy permits to access areas in which to hold their protests.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]:lol: I downloaded this picture off the interwebz so it is FACT! :lol:

Heres some stuff I posted the other day. I guess, since it meets (or surpasses) the bar set by your pretty picture, ALL OWS-ers are a bunch of pervy-junkie-criminals after all. Cause you know, there is nothing biased out there. :roll: (The below is a partial list from the right-leaning Breitbart).

Planet_Pluto

I honestly have no clue as to what you're arguing with me about. I clearly stated that the poster wasn't factual and has sweeping generalizations. Right above the pic....

I thought hipster/socialist was quite the ranking stereotype to racist. Airshocker does have a point that they should of straight up put socialist instead of hipster, same difference, maybe? Anyway I have to get to class so maybe we continue later~

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]Giving people the right to protest, but then nowhere to protest is not giving them the right to protest at all. It may be "private land", but it is a public park that is open 24 hours.EntropyWins

Have they paid for their permits yet?

I don't see you complaining about that, when the Tea Party has always had to buy permits to access areas in which to hold their protests.

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I honestly have no clue as to what you're arguing with me about. I clearly stated that the poster wasn't factual and has sweeping generalizations. Right above the pic....

Blue-Sky

I thought hipster/socialist was quite the ranking stereotype to racist. Airshocker does have a point that they should of straight up put socialist instead of hipster, same difference, maybe? Anyway I have to get to class so maybe we continue later~

I don't really care about comparisons to the tea party to be honest. If they want to pay to use certain areas that is their business. OWS obviously feels as though they should not have to pay into a system to protest that same system that is f****** them. Obviously this is against the "law", but the question is then does the law trump these people's rights. Rights have limitations (like yelling fire in a theatre), but the limitation that is being applied here effectively destroys the purpose of the right itself. All this talk about the poor taxpayers that can't use the park ( aka business people on their lunches) and class of danger are all just attempts to rationalize shutting these people up or at least making the go far away imo. EntropyWins

So you're a hypocrite. You're okay with the Tea Party having to pay but not with OWS?

aka business people on their lunches

EntropyWins

Children use that park.
As long as we're on the subject of generalizations, I fear any children that attempt to take a walk in the park will be brutally raped then promptly thrown through a bank window.

How do you sleep at night?

So you're a hypocrite. You're okay with the Tea Party having to pay but not with OWS?

airshocker

Planet_Pluto

Who let you back in this forum?

NO DOGS ALLOWED

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

Necrifer

Who let you back in this forum?

NO DOGS ALLOWED

I didn't say that. I said If the tea part chooses to pay for certain areas that is their business.

EntropyWins

That's still hypocrisy. You're okay with one group following the law, but not the other.

[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]

I didn't say that. I said If the tea part chooses to pay for certain areas that is their business.

airshocker

That's still hypocrisy. You're okay with one group following the law, but not the other.

This thread was an excruciatingly painful read.

This thread was an excruciatingly painful read.

coolbeans90

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]

I didn't say that. I said If the tea part chooses to pay for certain areas that is their business.

surrealnumber5

That's still hypocrisy. You're okay with one group following the law, but not the other.

EDIT: That is one of the things that I don't care for about some of the protesters down there. They think it is their "right" to "occupy" privately owned land. It's little different than people thinking it is ok to steal from a store like Target or Walmart and say, "Hey, they have enough money."

This thread was an excruciatingly painful read.

coolbeans90

That's why I made it more painful.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

This thread was an excruciatingly painful read.

surrealnumber5

Too lazy to post a thorough analysis at the minute.

Some highlights:

Do not think OWS should be cracked down upon. Free speech, etc.

Think they should be held to the same standards regarding payment for use of property everyone else is. Hypocrisy irks me.

Using massive generalizations regarding both movements (socialist, racist etc.) does nothing than cause pointless bickering.

Using massive generalizations regarding both movements (socialist, racist etc.) does nothing than cause pointless bickering.

coolbeans90

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

So you're a hypocrite. You're okay with the Tea Party having to pay but not with OWS?

EntropyWins

Yeah now it just costs the cities of these protests to keep them safe, sanitary, and to clean up their mess after.

That seems fair for the cities who have nothing to do with wallstreet sucking.

At least someone is paying attention to them in NYC. Here in Albany, they had to wander to another park to get arrested so they could get media attention. :lol:

I'm still waiting for the first serious snowfall to send these individuals scurrying back to their homes and their central heating.

At least someone is paying attention to them in NYC. Here in Albany, they had to wander to another park to get arrested so they could get media attention. :lol:

I'm still waiting for the first serious snowfall to send these individuals scurrying back to their homes and their central heating.

OrkHammer007

The OWS movement has gotten plenty of media coverage. Apparently they just want more and to be in the spotlight 24/7.

They're wasting their time. No peaceful protest has changed anything.

Cerage

[QUOTE="Cerage"]

They're wasting their time. No peaceful protest has changed anything.

kussese

Just starting to follow this now. From what I've been told, they're being ousted because of what has happened in Oakland as well as the "Shut Down the Stock Exchange" idea? Maniacc1

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]Just starting to follow this now. From what I've been told, they're being ousted because of what has happened in Oakland as well as the "Shut Down the Stock Exchange" idea? Planet_Pluto

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

That's still hypocrisy. You're okay with one group following the law, but not the other.

Planet_Pluto

EDIT: That is one of the things that I don't care for about some of the protesters down there. They think it is their "right" to "occupy" privately owned land. It's little different than people thinking it is ok to steal from a store like Target or Walmart and say, "Hey, they have enough money."

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] who has current ownership of the land being squatted on? if it is in the common then i have no problem with these people being a prime example of that tragedy of the commons that i often talk about. if it is in private ownership then i am against the squatting as it infringes upon someone else and their property.

-Sun_Tzu-

EDIT: That is one of the things that I don't care for about some of the protesters down there. They think it is their "right" to "occupy" privately owned land. It's little different than people thinking it is ok to steal from a store like Target or Walmart and say, "Hey, they have enough money."

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] who has current ownership of the land being squatted on? if it is in the common then i have no problem with these people being a prime example of that tragedy of the commons that i often talk about. if it is in private ownership then i am against the squatting as it infringes upon someone else and their property.

-Sun_Tzu-

EDIT: That is one of the things that I don't care for about some of the protesters down there. They think it is their "right" to "occupy" privately owned land. It's little different than people thinking it is ok to steal from a store like Target or Walmart and say, "Hey, they have enough money."

"Huge stretch" is relative.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]It's privately owned land. The owners (Brookfield Properties) actually requested assistance from the city in order to clean the park. That is what prompted the eviction of the occupiers.

EDIT: That is one of the things that I don't care for about some of the protesters down there. They think it is their "right" to "occupy" privately owned land. It's little different than people thinking it is ok to steal from a store like Target or Walmart and say, "Hey, they have enough money."

surrealnumber5

Sort of like on my last project. We were building several high-end, fancy high-rise buildings for condo's for rich fat cats to buy. The only way the city allowed us to do it was to build some affordable-housing units (although the ratio escapes me at the moment).

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]It's privately owned land. The owners (Brookfield Properties) actually requested assistance from the city in order to clean the park. That is what prompted the eviction of the occupiers.

EDIT: That is one of the things that I don't care for about some of the protesters down there. They think it is their "right" to "occupy" privately owned land. It's little different than people thinking it is ok to steal from a store like Target or Walmart and say, "Hey, they have enough money."

Planet_Pluto

"Huge stretch" is relative.

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] The choice of location is a part of the protest. Zuccotti park is a public area that is privately owned, which helps exemplify what they are protesting. And to equate it to stealing from a store is a huge stretch.-Sun_Tzu-

"Huge stretch" is relative.

Regarding theft, it's really not that far off. Their stance (seems to be) that anyone and everyone deserves (aka: is entitled to) the same lot in life, regardless of the cards they are dealt and how they play those cards. It's the exact same mentality as saying, "I want a new jacket. Target has plenty. So I should be allowed to take this one. It may not be legal, but it's social justice for me to take it."

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]They are protesting parks? Shoot. I thought their primary target was Wall Street. Then again, if there were any kind of solutions proposed by the "organizers," perhaps there would be less confusionon those on the outside looking in.

"Huge stretch" is relative.

Planet_Pluto

Regarding theft, it's really not that far off. Their stance (seems to be) that anyone and everyone deserves (aka: is entitled to) the same lot in life, regardless of the cards they are dealt and how they play those cards. It's the exact same mentality as saying, "I want a new jacket. Target has plenty. So I should be allowed to take this one. It may not be legal, but it's social justice for me to take it."

I never said that land ownership is the key issue with these protests (although in many ways it is, with all the foreclosures that have been going on throughout the country). Zuccotti park is symbolic of what they are protesting - i.e. wealth and income inequality and the degradation that is resulting from that - in the case of Zuccotti Park the private ownership of public land. The location of a protest always bears significance. There's a reason why civil rights activists sat in at certain restruants. There's a reason why MLK gave his dream speech at the Lincoln memorial. The venue of a protest is always a statement within itself. They are never randomly selected.

And you are completely misrepresenting their stance. They are protesting for equal oppurtunity. Equal oppurtunity is something that traditionally everyone supported - even conservatives. How you can go from equal oppurtunity to them wanting free jackets for everyone from target is ridiculous. All you're doing is knocking down strawmans and throwing around red herrings.

We need Cartman to deal with these occupy hippies.

Judge finally ruled. He barred the protesters from occupying Zucotti Park.

I love it when the law is upheld.

SOURCE if you doubted me.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

Gas the bastards and move in with the rubber bullets. Their silly little movement should have come to an end weeks ago.

QuistisTrepe_

These whiny little ******* are a pestilence. I have to put up with these punks here in Oakland. And what I get are disease-ridden, smelly hippies infesting my neighborhood, committing vandalism of small businesses (I guess they're the evil 1% too), theft, and violent crime (despite what you've been hearing about their allegedly peaceful demonstrations). They're not achieving anything, they're costing us millions for law enforcement sweeping the city, dispersing their encampments and bringing small businesses to a standstill with all the ruckus, interfering with mass transit, while drawing lawless lunatics from all corners of the Bay Area.

I want these people gone by any means necessary. They've had their say, the party is over. This isn't about ideology, it's about returning to civilized society.

It's cool to support the top super rich 1% of people in the U.S. and it's also cool to never question the status quo. It's cool to just take whatever the authorities give you even if it's wrong and it's cool to let your freedoms be erroded until you get to a fascist, police state.

Just be lucky you don't live in Europe where protests get more out of hand, yet things get changed because the government fears the people.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

Gas the bastards and move in with the rubber bullets. Their silly little movement should have come to an end weeks ago.

QuistisTrepe_

These whiny little ******* are a pestilence. I have to put up with these punks here in Oakland. And what I get are disease-ridden, smelly hippies infesting my neighborhood, committing vandalism of small businesses (I guess they're the evil 1% too), theft, and violent crime (despite what you've been hearing about their allegedly peaceful demonstrations). They're not achieving anything, they're costing us millions for law enforcement sweeping the city, dispersing their encampments and bringing small businesses to a standstill with all the ruckus, interfering with mass transit, while drawing lawless lunatics from all corners of the Bay Area.

I want these people gone by any means necessary. They've had their say, the party is over. This isn't about ideology, it's about returning to civilized society.