Okay Atheists, Where is your Proof that GOD DOESN'T Exist?

[QUOTE="OldTopics"]Theres a pink elephant living in my room. PROVE ITS NOT THERE!!!!!!Fudgycakes

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]

Prove to me that there isn't a gerbil in the center of the sun.

urdead18

It's....Super Gerbil!

[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I would imagine that there are a lot of things you can't see, hear, feel, or touch, which you nonetheless accept the existence of.

Deihjan

Such as?

There is no proof that God does not exist. There is also no proof that God does exist. Both Atheism and Religion are ignorant and foolish. Agnosticism for-teh-wan.LiftedHeadshot

What about agnostic atheists?

Ok atheists, Im not here to make you try to believe in god because thats not my job but he does exist. But you dont believe that, so tell me where is you proof that he doesn't? Simple question right,so proof it?

x8VXU6

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]

I can't see, hear, feel, touch or smell him!

TroubleMaker411

I would imagine that there are a lot of things you can't see, hear, feel, or touch, which you nonetheless accept the existence of.

Such as?

Microbes, subatomic particles, black holes...

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Fudgycakes"] Miracles? Name one that has happened outside the Bible.urdead18

Alright:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqsRDD6kXWY

[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I would imagine that there are a lot of things you can't see, hear, feel, or touch, which you nonetheless accept the existence of.

Fudgycakes

Such as?

Do pardon my ignorance.

How is intimacy a burden?

i do however FEEL intimacy. with my wife, and my family. it is felt. therefore it exists.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]

I can't see, hear, feel, touch or smell him!

TroubleMaker411

I would imagine that there are a lot of things you can't see, hear, feel, or touch, which you nonetheless accept the existence of.

Such as?

Radon.

[QUOTE="Fudgycakes"][QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]

Such as?

TroubleMaker411

Do pardon my ignorance.

How is intimacy a burden?

i do however FEEL intimacy. with my wife, and my family. it is felt. therefore it exists.

[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I would imagine that there are a lot of things you can't see, hear, feel, or touch, which you nonetheless accept the existence of.

Deihjan

Such as?

As in the microscopic organism that can be seen under a microscope?

I can see then

I don't see any evidence there is one. There's no photos, only stories.Cloud_765

Just wondering how that's racist if millions of people of differing races die :o..Xx_Hopeless_xX

Ok believers, Im not here to make you try to not believe in god because thats not my job but he doesn't exist. But you dont believe that, so tell me where is you proof that he does? Simple question right,so proof it?

x8VXU6

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]This will most definitely not end wellWilfred_Owen

[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]

Such as?

TroubleMaker411

As in the microscopic organism that can be seen under a microscope?

I can see then

I'm going to assume that you're a Christian, correct me if I am wrong though.

Anyhow show me how it's done by proving how Anubis, Osiris, Zeus, Apollo, Shiva, Odin, Ares, Athena, Tezcatlipoca, Tonatiuh, Horus, Cernunnos doesn't exist and I'll use your method.

[QUOTE="Cloud_765"]I don't see any evidence there is one. There's no photos, only stories.harashawn

[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I would imagine that there are a lot of things you can't see, hear, feel, or touch, which you nonetheless accept the existence of.

topgunmv

Such as?

Radon.

Being that radon has an atomic mass and number, i can safel assume that it's existence has been proven, absolutely.

I feel i have opened a can of worms with my question and i shall be here all night

[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I would imagine that there are a lot of things you can't see, hear, feel, or touch, which you nonetheless accept the existence of.

GabuEx

Such as?

Microbes, subatomic particles, black holes...

I feel this is a flawed analogy as we basically know of the existence of all of those things by way of senses. Yes, our senses have to be enhanced by things like electron microscopes or such other apparatus, but it's still through the use of our senses that we know about them. I guess you could argue that we personally have never observed them, but we trust respected individuals who say they have.

[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Numerous Eucharistic Miracles: The Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano for example. Snipes_2

Alright:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqsRDD6kXWY

[QUOTE="Cloud_765"]I don't see any evidence there is one. There's no photos, only stories.harashawn

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]Just wondering how that's racist if millions of people of differing races die :o..Deihjan

[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]

[QUOTE="Deihjan"] Germs...Deihjan

As in the microscopic organism that can be seen under a microscope?

I can see then

But this is my point.

as and when the technology exists to prove that god exists, i will believe in him.

But right now, at this point in time, the proof is not there that he does. with the help of technology or not, i do need proof.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]

Such as?

theone86

Microbes, subatomic particles, black holes...

I feel this is a flawed analogy as we basically know of the existence of all of those things by way of senses. Yes, our senses have to be enhanced by things like electron microscopes or such other apparatus, but it's still through the use of our senses that we know about them. I guess you could argue that we personally have never observed them, but we trust respected individuals who say they have.

I'm obviously not arguing that we should discount the existence of such things; I just don't like the so easily countered suggestion that because one cannot sense God then God may be assumed not to exist.

I'm going to assume that you're a Christian, correct me if I am wrong though.

Anyhow show me how it's done by proving how Anubis,Osiris, Zeus, Apollo, Shiva, Odin, Athena, Tezcatlipoca, Tonatiuh doesn't exist and I'll use your method.

Vesica_Prime

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]

I can't see, hear, feel, touch or smell him!

TroubleMaker411

I would imagine that there are a lot of things you can't see, hear, feel, or touch, which you nonetheless accept the existence of.

Such as?

My faith in God's non-existence sustains me, since I have felt His absence in my heartxaos

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="urdead18"] The story of a miracle that happened in Italy in the 8th century? Yeaaaaahh, pictures or videos are more preferably.Fudgycakes

Alright:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqsRDD6kXWY

Oh god, not this again. Well, this thread has been fun while it lasted, have a good time over the next five hours arguing over whether or not what appears to be a wall bleeding could in fact have been something else.

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="Cloud_765"]I don't see any evidence there is one. There's no photos, only stories.ShadowJax04

[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]Just wondering how that's racist if millions of people of differing races die :o..Xx_Hopeless_xX

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="urdead18"] The story of a miracle that happened in Italy in the 8th century? Yeaaaaahh, pictures or videos are more preferably.Fudgycakes

Alright:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqsRDD6kXWY

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

I'm going to assume that you're a Christian, correct me if I am wrong though.

Anyhow show me how it's done by proving how Anubis,Osiris, Zeus, Apollo, Shiva, Odin, Athena, Tezcatlipoca, Tonatiuh doesn't exist and I'll use your method.

Deihjan

Gah, I don't want to spend the rest of my morning typing up thousands upon thousands of names :P.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Microbes, subatomic particles, black holes...

GabuEx

I feel this is a flawed analogy as we basically know of the existence of all of those things by way of senses. Yes, our senses have to be enhanced by things like electron microscopes or such other apparatus, but it's still through the use of our senses that we know about them. I guess you could argue that we personally have never observed them, but we trust respected individuals who say they have.

I'm obviously not arguing that we should discount the existence of such things; I just don't like the so easily countered suggestion that because one cannot sense God then God may be assumed not to exist.

True enough.

[QUOTE="ShadowJax04"][QUOTE="harashawn"] There are no photos of King Henry VIII, either.harashawn

[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

I'm going to assume that you're a Christian, correct me if I am wrong though.

Anyhow show me how it's done by proving how Anubis,Osiris, Zeus, Apollo, Shiva, Odin, Athena, Tezcatlipoca, Tonatiuh doesn't exist and I'll use your method.

Vesica_Prime

Gah, I don't want to spend the rest of my morning typing up thousands upon thousands of names :P.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="Deihjan"] God is clearly not human, that's why! :P Or just think.. Mount Vesuvius.. White people died. BOOM! There you have it! Racist God! We all know God is black :o Maybe he's a black alien! *tinfoil hat*Deihjan

The fact that you're asking such a common, unsophisticated question shows that you're not very experienced in this kind of debate. The burden of proof is on the person claiming god exists. However, if you specify attributes of your god, there's a good chance many of them will be contradictory.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Microbes, subatomic particles, black holes...

GabuEx

I feel this is a flawed analogy as we basically know of the existence of all of those things by way of senses. Yes, our senses have to be enhanced by things like electron microscopes or such other apparatus, but it's still through the use of our senses that we know about them. I guess you could argue that we personally have never observed them, but we trust respected individuals who say they have.

I'm obviously not arguing that we should discount the existence of such things; I just don't like the so easily countered suggestion that because one cannot sense God then God may be assumed not to exist.

And while your logic is reasonable. I could tell you that there is a fruit that when you eat it, it will make you sprout pink gooseberries from your hair.

While you can't prove whether or not such a fruit exists, it would be irrational to believe such a claim without proof.

I am not saying you should not believe in god, i am saying that in my 28 years, i haven't seen, or felt anyhting that indicates the presence of a supreme being watching me, protecting me, loving me.

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="ShadowJax04"] No, it is a much more realistic thing to believe that some human who happened to be king was born. I think you deliberately tried to miss the point or else you just fail miserably. What would not be very realistic is if you told me that a dragon existed around the middle ages. And neither do I believe that.ShadowJax04

Also there is more historical evidence for the existence and activities of Henry VIII than there is for god, such as multiple documents from various sources that can be connected with other events that corrorborate the story and are similarly backed up by multiple documents. The Bible has nowhere near the amount of corrorborating evidence as other historical documents.

[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

I'm going to assume that you're a Christian, correct me if I am wrong though.

Anyhow show me how it's done by proving how Anubis,Osiris, Zeus, Apollo, Shiva, Odin, Athena, Tezcatlipoca, Tonatiuh doesn't exist and I'll use your method.

Vesica_Prime

Gah, I don't want to spend the rest of my morning typing up thousands upon thousands of names :P.

I really hate these kinds of threads... "Christians, prove that god exists, oh wait you can't, you have no proof." "Atheists, prove that God doesn't exist, because I say so."

Because the existance of a god is not reasonable. I simply cannot bring myself to believe in something that isn't real. I'd believe in Star wars before i believed in a god or ghosts or angels.

If someone believes in a god, then they believe something that can't happen can actually happen, which means they don't believe in reality.

Because the existance of a god is not reasonable. I simply cannot bring myself to believe in something that isn't real. I'd believe in Star wars before i believed in a god or ghosts or angels.

If someone believes in a god, then they believe something that can't happen can actually happen, which means they don't believe in reality.

hoola