Only because the issue cannot be ignored, Obesity in America.

America is in serious need of some health/nutrition reforms due to the fact that number of obese individuals keeps climbing year by year. Everytime I go to a clothing store I find out that the number of large clothing surpasses the amount of small and medium sized clothes by a wide margin. Everytime I see an obese individual on a motorized wheelchair at wallmart I do not see them with their basket full of carrots and lettuce, I see them carrying Little Debbie pastries and/or a bunch of TV Dinners (sad but true). Money should be invested into making the healthier food choices cheaper and more appealing to the public or the numbers will keep climbing and humans will become like the ones from Wall-e. I am glad that my parents limited the amount of junk food I ate and forzed me to go to a daily basketball practice, many do not have the privilege and the consequences are present in childhood today.

Whats your stance in this? Do you feel sympathy for the morbidly obese? What do you feel when you see an obese child? :o

You'll find very good negative correlation between those international obesity statistics and percentage of childhood population which is underweight. I'm not saying that obesity in developed nations isn't a problem, only that, on this kind of scale, obesity coincides with ability to adequately feed a national population.

The whole push for healthier stuff and being healthy is making things worse instead of better. XiaolinPrincess

I feel like the laziness and stupidity of overweight people are no match for hard work and common sense.

science sucks, it brags about too many things and can't do anything about this.GazaAli

science sucks, it brags about too many things and can't do anything about this.GazaAli

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]science sucks, it brags about too many things and can't do anything about this.CaveJohnson1

science then came up with liposuction and tying up part of the stomach. ppl just cant afford teh science beh :P

science sucks, it brags about too many things and can't do anything about this.GazaAli

[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]science sucks, it brags about too many things and can't do anything about this.halokillerz

science then came up with liposuction and tying up part of the stomach. ppl just cant afford teh science beh :P

People are just stupid/lazy

who cares, the hardest part is finding shirts long enough. Back in my college days i tried to wear the trendy clothes... but all the tiny people meant i had to wear belly shirts.

and im only 6'2". I can lose weight to fit into clothes, i cant lose height.

IMO, pointless numbers. I only care fat percentage. So many body builders are over weight. And so many people with large bond structure that weighted tons compares to my tiny bone frame. And those numbers never take those into considerations. magicalclick

most bodybuilders are considered morbidly obese on the BMI actually.

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]IMO, pointless numbers. I only care fat percentage. So many body builders are over weight. And so many people with large bond structure that weighted tons compares to my tiny bone frame. And those numbers never take those into considerations. SoBaus

most bodybuilders are considered morbidly obese on the BMI actually.

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]IMO, pointless numbers. I only care fat percentage. So many body builders are over weight. And so many people with large bond structure that weighted tons compares to my tiny bone frame. And those numbers never take those into considerations. Nibroc420

most bodybuilders are considered morbidly obese on the BMI actually.

do you actually know how the BMI works? is strictly a weight to height ratio...

and with many pro bodybuilders clocking in at 6'2" and 260lbs... yes they are considered obese...

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="SoBaus"]

most bodybuilders are considered morbidly obese on the BMI actually.

SoBaus

do you actually know how the BMI works? is strictly a weight to height ratio...

and with many pro bodybuilders clocking in at 6'2" and 260lbs... yes they are considered obese...

BMI is an awful way of gaining intel about weight.

Under the system anyone that does any weight lifting at all is classed as morbidly obese, and anyone a fractionover the index is overweight.

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Uhh... No, Thats not quite how BMI works, if you'd had someone actually check your BMI you'd know that.Nibroc420

do you actually know how the BMI works? is strictly a weight to height ratio...

and with many pro bodybuilders clocking in at 6'2" and 260lbs... yes they are considered obese...

Well you said thats now how BMI works, and if i had someone check my bmi ide know that. I can do simple division across my my own height and weight. Its certainly looks like you are implying BMI is somehow similiar to a caliper test... because everyone is capable of checking their own bmi.

clearly you are backtracking now.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]BMI is used as a reference for the average person, not body builders.magicalclick

That pretty much explained it. USA, if you want to reduce overweight, be averge and don't workout. :|

So I should feel guilty that I ate two double double burgers from In N Out an two hours later I just ate an ham cheese, tomato, mushroom omelet with two hash browns an bacon?Wilfred_Owen

I can do simple division across my my own height and weight.

SoBaus

:|

You think BMI = Height/Weight?

Clearly you need to do research.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="magicalclick"]

That pretty much explained it. USA, if you want to reduce overweight, be averge and don't workout. :|

magicalclick

If you can post me accurate BMI for WWF champions, I would try and understand what you are saying.

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]I can do simple division across my my own height and weight.

Nibroc420

:|

You think BMI = Height/Weight?

Clearly you need to do research.

No its the weight divided by the square of height.

But when i said most bodybuilders are considered obese, you told me thats not how it works... The BMI equation has only two inputs, height and weight.

I think you maybe made a mistake and thats ok, we all do. If you want to pull a palin, and keep trying to justify your point i cant stop you.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="magicalclick"]

If you can post me accurate BMI for WWF champions, I would try and understand what you are saying.

magicalclick

Not joking.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]I can do simple division across my my own height and weight.

SoBaus

:|

You think BMI = Height/Weight?

Clearly you need to do research.

No its the weight divided by the square of height.

But when i said most bodybuilders are considered obese, you told me thats not how it works... The BMI equation has only two inputs, height and weight.

I think you maybe made a mistake and thats ok, we all do. If you want to pull a palin, and keep trying to justify your point i cant stop you.

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Jokes right? I dont really have to spoil the surprise about WWF right?Nibroc420

Not joking.

still doesnt explain when i said most pro bodybuilders are considered obese by bmi, you told me.. that isnt how bmi works.

Now you are getting all technical and talking about workout routines, but in your original response... you said pro bodybuilders arent considered obese by BMI standards... because somehow i didnt understand how BMI works.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="magicalclick"]

Not joking.

SoBaus

still doesnt explain when i said most pro bodybuilders are considered obese by bmi, you told me.. that isnt how bmi works.

Now you are getting all technical and talking about workout routines, but in your original response... you said pro bodybuilders arent considered obese by BMI standards... because somehow i didnt understand how BMI works.

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

:|

You think BMI = Height/Weight?

Clearly you need to do research.

Nibroc420

No its the weight divided by the square of height.

But when i said most bodybuilders are considered obese, you told me thats not how it works... The BMI equation has only two inputs, height and weight.

I think you maybe made a mistake and thats ok, we all do. If you want to pull a palin, and keep trying to justify your point i cant stop you.

Tell me this, calculate BMI... tell me if ronnie coleman at 5'11" and 297lbs is considered obese or not, by BMI standards. Since you know how to calculate it so much better than the rest of us.

btw here is obese ronnie coleman..

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="SoBaus"]

No its the weight divided by the square of height.

But when i said most bodybuilders are considered obese, you told me thats not how it works... The BMI equation has only two inputs, height and weight.

I think you maybe made a mistake and thats ok, we all do. If you want to pull a palin, and keep trying to justify your point i cant stop you.

SoBaus

Tell me this, calculate BMI... tell me if ronnie coleman at 5'11" and 297lbs is considered obese or not, by BMI standards. Since you know how to calculate it so much better than the rest of us.

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] It's Weight * 703 / Height^2 It seems every time you describe how to obtain one's BMI, you get it wrong. If you dont know how to calculate your BMI, how would you know your BMI? and why would you dispute something you clearly dont understand?Nibroc420

Tell me this, calculate BMI... tell me if ronnie coleman at 5'11" and 297lbs is considered obese or not, by BMI standards. Since you know how to calculate it so much better than the rest of us.

i cant figure it out cuz im too stupid, help me figure out ronnie coleman's BMI please.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="SoBaus"]

Tell me this, calculate BMI... tell me if ronnie coleman at 5'11" and 297lbs is considered obese or not, by BMI standards. Since you know how to calculate it so much better than the rest of us.

SoBaus

i cant figure it out cuz im too stupid, help me figure out ronnie coleman's BMI please.

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] :roll: Go figure out what BMI is. Then come back.Nibroc420

i cant figure it out cuz im too stupid, help me figure out ronnie coleman's BMI please.

my point was that pro bodybuilders, such as ronnie coleman are considered morbidly obese by the BMI (which they are) you are the one saying i dont know how it works.

So if i dont know how it works, show me how ronnie colemen is considered skinny by BMI standards. Im still waiting for this miraculous computation that makes me wrong...

fact of the matter is, im right, you are wrong.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="SoBaus"]

i cant figure it out cuz im too stupid, help me figure out ronnie coleman's BMI please.

SoBaus

my point was that pro bodybuilders, such as ronnie coleman are considered morbidly obese by the BMI (which they are) you are the one saying i dont know how it works.

So if i dont know how it works, show me how ronnie colemen is considered skinny by BMI standards. Im still waiting for this miraculous computation that makes me wrong...

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] :roll: Go figure out what BMI is. Then come back.Nibroc420

i cant figure it out cuz im too stupid, help me figure out ronnie coleman's BMI please.

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] "it is meant to be used as a simple means of classifying sedentary (physically inactive) individuals with an average body composition" to use it on anyone else would be against the proper usage of BMI, and as such, your point is invalid.Nibroc420

my point was that pro bodybuilders, such as ronnie coleman are considered morbidly obese by the BMI (which they are) you are the one saying i dont know how it works.

So if i dont know how it works, show me how ronnie colemen is considered skinny by BMI standards. Im still waiting for this miraculous computation that makes me wrong...

My claim is pro bodybuilders are considered morbidly obese on the BMI scale, you said i dont understand the BMI scale. Ronnie Coleman is considered morbidly obese on the BMI scale.

Now you are throwing quotes into the mix, if pro bodybuilders arent considered obese by BMI... prove it, or go away. I have a healthy understanding, you dont.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="SoBaus"]

i cant figure it out cuz im too stupid, help me figure out ronnie coleman's BMI please.

surrealnumber5

and you'll understand my issue with what "SoBaus" and the others people who denounce these graphs as proof.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] "it is meant to be used as a simple means of classifying sedentary (physically inactive) individuals with an average body composition" to use it on anyone else would be against the proper usage of BMI, and as such, your point is invalid.Nibroc420

and you'll understand my issue with what "SoBaus" and the others people who denounce these graphs as proof.

whatever your understanding of the BMI is, calculate ronnie coleman's BMI and tell me the result. If hes not obese based on your calculation... ill admit defeat. But show your work.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] you are so wrong its not even funny, the BMI was created in the 1830's by Adolphe Quatelet, being a statistician he thought he could create a formula that would give the optimum weight for a person height. SoBaus

and you'll understand my issue with what "SoBaus" and the others people who denounce these graphs as proof.

whatever your understanding of the BMI is, calculate ronnie coleman's BMI and tell me the result. If hes not obese based on your calculation... ill admit defeat. But show your work.