Only because the issue cannot be ignored, Obesity in America.

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] "it is meant to be used as a simple means of ****fying sedentary (physically inactive) individuals with an average body composition" to use it on anyone else would be against the proper usage of BMI, and as such, your point is invalid.BiancaDK

my point was that pro bodybuilders, such as ronnie coleman are considered morbidly obese by the BMI (which they are) you are the one saying i dont know how it works.

So if i dont know how it works, show me how ronnie colemen is considered skinny by BMI standards. Im still waiting for this miraculous computation that makes me wrong...

fact of the matter is, im right, you are wrong.

no, he's actually right, and you're wrong. (: i work in the medical and healthcare sector, and how he describes the utilization of the BMI is 100% correct (:

if it is being used as a rule of thumb then it is being projected on the whole population and not just the designated inactive.

surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

if it is being used as a rule of thumb then it is being projected on the whole population and not just the designated inactive.

BiancaDK

So how does this effect a really skinny guy who lives in the US like me? Oh right, it doesn't. Barring a medical condition people can keep weight off if I can do it without any exercise and just good discipline. Sorry OP but I just have heard this in school for years and it gets really old.

when ever people bring up obecity stats in the US those are based on BMI numbers, i dont know about the rest of the world, butit is that metric that the USA uses and that is what this thread is about. if he wants to use the BMI for the small group of people he says it is "meant for" that is fine but that is not how it is used here or in this thread.surrealnumber5

well USA and this thread uses the BMI wrong then (:

So how does this effect a really skinny guy who lives in the US like me? Oh right, it doesn't. Barring a medical condition people can keep weight off if I can do it without any exercise and just good discipline. Sorry OP but I just have heard this in school for years and it gets really old.

Whiteblade999

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]when ever people bring up obecity stats in the US those are based on BMI numbers, i dont know about the rest of the world, butit is that metric that the USA uses and that is what this thread is about. if he wants to use the BMI for the small group of people he says it is "meant for" that is fine but that is not how it is used here or in this thread.BiancaDK

well USA and this thread uses the BMI wrong then (:

yay now i have a little euro arm candy in my corner :)

surrealnumber5

haha what? :d

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]when ever people bring up obecity stats in the US those are based on BMI numbers, i dont know about the rest of the world, butit is that metric that the USA uses and that is what this thread is about. if he wants to use the BMI for the small group of people he says it is "meant for" that is fine but that is not how it is used here or in this thread.surrealnumber5

well USA and this thread uses the BMI wrong then (:

This won't end well,

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

yay now i have a little euro arm candy in my corner :)

BiancaDK

haha what? :d

This won't end well,

tenaka2

i don't understand what he means with what he said, i haven't heard that expression before, so im pretty sure we're good (:

Im surprised with all the advertisements of models in magazine and on billboards, obesity has not gone down. But honestly I dont care, Im healthy and fit

when ever people bring up obesity stats in the US those are based on BMI numbers, i dont know about the rest of the world, butit is that metric that the USA uses and that is what this thread is about. if he wants to use the BMI for the small group of people he says it is "meant for" that is fine but that is not how it is used here or in this thread.

surrealnumber5

Im surprised with all the advertisements of models in magazine and on billboards, obesity has not gone down. But honestly I dont care, Im healthy and fit

POPEYE1716

30% In some states? thats actually insane!

IMO, pointless numbers. I only care fat percentage. So many body builders are over weight. And so many people with large bond structure that weighted tons compares to my tiny bone frame. And those numbers never take those into considerations. magicalclick

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]IMO, pointless numbers. I only care fat percentage. So many body builders are over weight. And so many people with large bond structure that weighted tons compares to my tiny bone frame. And those numbers never take those into considerations. weezyfb

people should stop being so fat and obese

Only thing i conclude from this result is they have excess of food. They should import it instead.

people should stop being so fat and obese

needled24-7

For such proposal I give you with this:

:D

Only thing i conclude from this result is they have excess of food. They should export it instead.

ZEYAAM898

Only thing i conclude from this result is they have excess of food. They should import it instead.

ZEYAAM898

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

So how does this effect a really skinny guy who lives in the US like me? Oh right, it doesn't. Barring a medical condition people can keep weight off if I can do it without any exercise and just good discipline. Sorry OP but I just have heard this in school for years and it gets really old.

surrealnumber5

Do you happen to be a gorilla? 285? How tall are you? Do you lift for 5 hours a day?

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

So how does this effect a really skinny guy who lives in the US like me? Oh right, it doesn't. Barring a medical condition people can keep weight off if I can do it without any exercise and just good discipline. Sorry OP but I just have heard this in school for years and it gets really old.

SpartanMSU

Do you happen to be a gorilla? 285? How tall are you? Do you lift for 5 hours a day?

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

So how does this effect a really skinny guy who lives in the US like me? Oh right, it doesn't. Barring a medical condition people can keep weight off if I can do it without any exercise and just good discipline. Sorry OP but I just have heard this in school for years and it gets really old.

SpartanMSU

Do you happen to be a gorilla? 285? How tall are you? Do you lift for 5 hours a day?

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] my brother and i are the same height and have the same body fat% only he is 185 and i am 285, he is right where the BMI says he should be where the BMI says i should be mega dead. hell we even have the same waste line(34in), our cultures obsession for arbitrary numbers is sick.

surrealnumber5

Do you happen to be a gorilla? 285? How tall are you? Do you lift for 5 hours a day?

You are a beast.

[QUOTE="ZEYAAM898"]

Only thing i conclude from this result is they have excess of food. They should import it instead.

KungfuKitten

Yes and thats a serious BS. I mean you shouldnt just throw it away, there are people starving out there as we post.

Yes and thats a serious BS. I mean you shouldnt just throw it away, there are people starving out there as we post.

ZEYAAM898

You're welcome to take leftovers over to the starving people. Actually, since you say "you shouldn't just throw it away," you're welcome to take my leftovers to the starving people.

Uh, from what I've read other places men and women have different determinants for BMI in regards to being overweight/obese due to the way women's body and hormones cause them to store fat...

Anyway yeah cool there's a bunch of fatasses here. Don't give a f*** really. Maybe people should stop going to the store and pigging out on bags of high calorie, high carb, and high fat snack foods? The FDA is a huge joke as well. They can't even get the food pyramid correct not matter how hard they try, and their obsession with limiting OTC drugs really takes away from other funding...

Only thing i conclude from this result is they have excess of food. They should import it instead.ZEYAAM898

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

So how does this effect a really skinny guy who lives in the US like me? Oh right, it doesn't. Barring a medical condition people can keep weight off if I can do it without any exercise and just good discipline. Sorry OP but I just have heard this in school for years and it gets really old.

surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

So how does this effect a really skinny guy who lives in the US like me? Oh right, it doesn't. Barring a medical condition people can keep weight off if I can do it without any exercise and just good discipline. Sorry OP but I just have heard this in school for years and it gets really old.

travisstaggs

[QUOTE="travisstaggs"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] my brother and i are the same height and have the same body fat% only he is 185 and i am 285, he is right where the BMI says he should be where the BMI says i should be mega dead. hell we even have the same waste line(34in), our cultures obsession for arbitrary numbers is sick.

surrealnumber5

I really don't see a problem here, but then again in my culture being fat is seen as a sign that you are well well-off, as in that you have money, that you live a comfy happy sedentary lifestyle and that your profession don't require you to do that much physical exertion.

So as a whole, to me, that graphs is more telling of how awesome Americans have it.

I really don't see a problem here, but then again in my culture being fat is seen as a sign that you are well well-off, as in that you have money, that you live a comfy happy sedentary lifestyle and that your profession don't require you to do that much physical exertion.

So as a whole, to me, that graphs is more telling of how awesome Americans have it.

Oscar-Wilde

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] my brother and i are the same height and have the same body fat% only he is 185 and i am 285, he is right where the BMI says he should be where the BMI says i should be mega dead. hell we even have the same waste line(34in), our cultures obsession for arbitrary numbers is sick.

YellowOneKinobi

Do you happen to be a gorilla? 285? How tall are you? Do you lift for 5 hours a day?

[QUOTE="Oscar-Wilde"]

I really don't see a problem here, but then again in my culture being fat is seen as a sign that you are well well-off, as in that you have money, that you live a comfy happy sedentary lifestyle and that your profession don't require you to do that much physical exertion.

So as a whole, to me, that graphs is more telling of how awesome Americans have it.

travisstaggs

People probably feel like crap for being fat because of all the **** people give them (not counting the morbidly obese here).

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="travisstaggs"] 285? Holy crap, bro.travisstaggs

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Do you happen to be a gorilla? 285? How tall are you? Do you lift for 5 hours a day?

comp_atkins

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Do you happen to be a gorilla? 285? How tall are you? Do you lift for 5 hours a day?

comp_atkins

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] my brother and i are the same height and have the same body fat% only he is 185 and i am 285, he is right where the BMI says he should be where the BMI says i should be mega dead. hell we even have the same waste line(34in), our cultures obsession for arbitrary numbers is sick.

surrealnumber5

Do you happen to be a gorilla? 285? How tall are you? Do you lift for 5 hours a day?

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Do you happen to be a gorilla? 285? How tall are you? Do you lift for 5 hours a day?

HoolaHoopMan

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] 6"2' and i only work out 2hrs a day....

surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] 6"2' and i only work out 2hrs a day....

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] Is it even healthy to be 285 of just muscle? That's still a lot of mass that your heart has to pump blood too, how many geriatric body builders are there? sonicare

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

my point was that pro bodybuilders, such as ronnie coleman are considered morbidly obese by the BMI (which they are) you are the one saying i dont know how it works.

So if i dont know how it works, show me how ronnie colemen is considered skinny by BMI standards. Im still waiting for this miraculous computation that makes me wrong...

fact of the matter is, im right, you are wrong.

surrealnumber5

no, he's actually right, and you're wrong. (: i work in the medical and healthcare sector, and how he describes the utilization of the BMI is 100% correct (:

"BMI was explicitly cited by Keys as being appropriate for population studies, and inappropriate for individual diagnosis. Nevertheless, due to its simplicity, it came to be widely used for individual diagnosis, despite its inappropriateness."

;)

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] Is it even healthy to be 285 of just muscle? That's still a lot of mass that your heart has to pump blood too, how many geriatric body builders are there? HoolaHoopMan

BMI is ridiculous. I'm 5'10 195lbs but am 10% body fat. According to BMI I'm obese and borderline morbidly obese. Please.