Only because the issue cannot be ignored, Obesity in America.

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#151 Nibroc420
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BMI is ridiculous. I'm 5'10 195lbs but am 10% body fat. According to BMI I'm obese and borderline morbidly obese. Please.

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Actually you're "overweight", not obese. :roll: i wish people would stop trying to trick others.
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#152 Oleg_Huzwog
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People having access to an abundant supply of affordable food is a good thing. People having the increasing ability to choose careers that don't involve heavy labor is a good thing. The standard of living for people in "fat" countries is a hell of a lot better than it is in India and other nations that boast near-zero obesity rates.

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#153 Nibroc420
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People having access to an abundant supply of affordable food is a good thing. People having the increasing ability to choose careers that don't involve heavy labor is a good thing. The standard of living for people in "fat" countries is a hell of a lot better than it is in India and other nations that boast near-zero obesity rates.

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They're also a lot healthier, and dont have to worry about as many heart attacks.
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#154 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

People having access to an abundant supply of affordable food is a good thing. People having the increasing ability to choose careers that don't involve heavy labor is a good thing. The standard of living for people in "fat" countries is a hell of a lot better than it is in India and other nations that boast near-zero obesity rates.

Nibroc420

They're also a lot healthier, and dont have to worry about as many heart attacks.

Given that the life expectancy in the US is 78.8 and India is 64.1 this is clearly not the case.

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#155 EasyStreet
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

People having access to an abundant supply of affordable food is a good thing. People having the increasing ability to choose careers that don't involve heavy labor is a good thing. The standard of living for people in "fat" countries is a hell of a lot better than it is in India and other nations that boast near-zero obesity rates.

tenaka2

They're also a lot healthier, and dont have to worry about as many heart attacks.

Given that the life expectancy in the US is 78.8 and India is 64.1 this is clearly not the case.

This because of better infrastructure go to any hospital and see how many fat people are clogging it up. Plus in the US people can survive a heart attack or two in non developed countries they are most likely dead.
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#156 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

People having access to an abundant supply of affordable food is a good thing. People having the increasing ability to choose careers that don't involve heavy labor is a good thing. The standard of living for people in "fat" countries is a hell of a lot better than it is in India and other nations that boast near-zero obesity rates.

tenaka2

They're also a lot healthier, and dont have to worry about as many heart attacks.

Given that the life expectancy in the US is 78.8 and India is 64.1 this is clearly not the case.

Given that there's a higher life expectancy for citizens of Canada, Australia, and the UK... It's safe to say that the USA's obesity problem is affecting it's health.
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#157 EasyStreet
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[QUOTE="drufeous"]

BMI is ridiculous. I'm 5'10 195lbs but am 10% body fat. According to BMI I'm obese and borderline morbidly obese. Please.

Nibroc420
Actually you're "overweight", not obese. :roll: i wish people would stop trying to trick others.

BMI does not work for outliers like athletes it is just a general measurement, you still a full checkup from you doctors to tell you if you are healthy or not.
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I always blame the parents. Always.ZumaJones07

not 100%, but yes...I blame the parents a lot for it. I'd argue most overweight adults started as healthy babies and became overweight infants and kids.

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#159 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="drufeous"]

BMI is ridiculous. I'm 5'10 195lbs but am 10% body fat. According to BMI I'm obese and borderline morbidly obese. Please.

EasyStreet
Actually you're "overweight", not obese. :roll: i wish people would stop trying to trick others.

BMI does not work for outliers like athletes it is just a general measurement, you still a full checkup from you doctors to tell you if you are healthy or not.

I understand that. It's really only supposed to be used for physically inactive people, and when discussing the height/weight ratios of large groups (States/Countries.)
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#160 bbkkristian
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I don't really care, I'm not overweight or obese.
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#161 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] They're also a lot healthier, and dont have to worry about as many heart attacks.Nibroc420

Given that the life expectancy in the US is 78.8 and India is 64.1 this is clearly not the case.

Given that there's a higher life expectancy for citizens of Canada, Australia, and the UK... It's safe to say that the USA's obesity problem is affecting it's health.

I didn't suggest it didn't I was just responding because of the scale of the generalisation in the post.

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#162 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Given that the life expectancy in the US is 78.8 and India is 64.1 this is clearly not the case.

tenaka2

Given that there's a higher life expectancy for citizens of Canada, Australia, and the UK... It's safe to say that the USA's obesity problem is affecting it's health.

I didn't suggest it didn't I was just responding because of the scale of the generalisation in the post.

no generalization. Obese = unhealthy Morbidly Obese = very unhealthy
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#163 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Given that there's a higher life expectancy for citizens of Canada, Australia, and the UK... It's safe to say that the USA's obesity problem is affecting it's health.Nibroc420

I didn't suggest it didn't I was just responding because of the scale of the generalisation in the post.

no generalization. Obese = unhealthy Morbidly Obese = very unhealthy

No one argues with that, but that wasn't what you said in your post. So there is no need to shift the goal posts.

I was responding to your post that health levels in 3rd world countries is higher then in the U.S. This is not the case.

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#164 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I didn't suggest it didn't I was just responding because of the scale of the generalisation in the post.

tenaka2

no generalization. Obese = unhealthy Morbidly Obese = very unhealthy

No one argues with that, but that wasn't what you said in your post. So there is no need to shift the goal posts.

I was responding to your post that health levels in 3rd world countries is higher then in the U.S. This is not the case.

So now india is a 3rd world?
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#165 mitu123
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Thank god I'm not obese.>.>

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#166 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] no generalization. Obese = unhealthy Morbidly Obese = very unhealthyNibroc420

No one argues with that, but that wasn't what you said in your post. So there is no need to shift the goal posts.

I was responding to your post that health levels in 3rd world countries is higher then in the U.S. This is not the case.

So now india is a 3rd world?

No, it's a 3rd world country.

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#167 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

No one argues with that, but that wasn't what you said in your post. So there is no need to shift the goal posts.

I was responding to your post that health levels in 3rd world countries is higher then in the U.S. This is not the case.

tenaka2

So now india is a 3rd world?

No, it's a 3rd world country.

:| No, it most certainly isn't.
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#168 EasyStreet
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] So now india is a 3rd world?Nibroc420

No, it's a 3rd world country.

:| No, it most certainly isn't.

It most certainly is, while it is growing leaps and bound places like China and India are still world countries, Now upper middle class there live like upper middle class here but for the average man there is a big difference.

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#169 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

No, it's a 3rd world country.

EasyStreet

:| No, it most certainly isn't.

It most certainly is, while it is growing leaps and bound places like China and India are still world countries, Now upper middle class there live like upper middle class here but for the average man there is a big difference.

India is not a 3rd world. :| Sometimes i wonder why people try to have intelligent conversations in OT.
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#170 EasyStreet
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[QUOTE="EasyStreet"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] :| No, it most certainly isn't.Nibroc420

It most certainly is, while it is growing leaps and bound places like China and India are still world countries, Now upper middle class there live like upper middle class here but for the average man there is a big difference.

India is not a 3rd world. :| Sometimes i wonder why people try to have intelligent conversations in OT.

What is you definition of third world?
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#171 Diablo-B
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Portion control, healthier foods, and exercise. Problem solved.

And I feel little sympathy for the obese. If your over weight I can understand. Busy life, you may have a slower then normal metabolism, or thyroid issue can all lead to this. Its not easy to always make time to exercise. But if you obese, it didn't just sneak up on you. You made the deliberate choices that lead to your condition.

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#172 MistressMinako
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I don't see why people care. If other people want to be fat, let them.
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#173 Nibroc420
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I don't see why people care. If other people want to be fat, let them. MistressMinako
Costs everyone else money. Fat people have more health problems, which are paid for by our taxes. Fatter people = more tax. More tax = higher cost of living. Do you want to spend more money on everything so that someone can be 40-50lbs overweight?
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[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]I don't see why people care. If other people want to be fat, let them. Nibroc420
Costs everyone else money. Fat people have more health problems, which are paid for by our taxes. Fatter people = more tax. More tax = higher cost of living. Do you want to spend more money on everything so that someone can be 40-50lbs overweight?

Yes, but fat people may also solve our energy crisis. Fat contains a high amount of energy per volume weight. Simply design engines that can work on combusting fat people and our reliance on foreign energy sources will be drastically resolved.
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#175 Palantas
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I don't see why people care. If other people want to be fat, let them. MistressMinako

They're unattractive, and they go out into public from time to time.

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[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]I don't see why people care. If other people want to be fat, let them. Palantas

They're unattractive, and they go out into public from time to time.

That's subjective, though they do tend to be more responsible for cracks in sidewalk pavement.

In all seriousness, I don't care if people want to be more gravitationally attractive than others. I am overweight by a few pounds according to the BMI but that's mostly due to the amount of weight lifting I've done for the past few years.

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Not my problem lol.

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#180 CaveJohnson1
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I don't see why people care. If other people want to be fat, let them. MistressMinako
Fat people costs everybody money in terms of health insurance.

I'd do something legisatively if I had the power.

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#183 CaveJohnson1
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[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]

[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]I don't see why people care. If other people want to be fat, let them. magicalclick

Fat people costs everybody money in terms of health insurance.

I'd do something legisatively if I had the power.

They paid more...........

Everybody rates goes up, it's the law of supply and demand.

More demand because fatties require more physical maintenance before they keel over at 50.

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#184 ImaPirate0202
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I only care because they cost us more money.

As far as their own health choices, that's up to them.

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#185 Shmiity
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There are so many people in America, its impossible to get everyone on a great diet. Fresh fruit and vegetables are expensive.

Ive struggled with my weight, sure, ive always been between -20/+20 over what Im supposed to be.

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Good thing I'm not one of them.

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#187 xLFTMx
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The title of this thread is a lie. I ignore obese people everday.

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#188 ROFLCOPTER603
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There's no way to get rid of obese people. They'll always be there. Just feel proud that you aren't one of them.

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[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]I don't see why people care. If other people want to be fat, let them. Nibroc420
Costs everyone else money. Fat people have more health problems, which are paid for by our taxes. Fatter people = more tax. More tax = higher cost of living. Do you want to spend more money on everything so that someone can be 40-50lbs overweight?

Doesn't matter at all. I am going to have to be forced to spend money on other people regardless. The fact that they are fat makes no difference. People are going to do whatever they want to do. Fat or not, going to have to spend money on a large group of people whether it be health, welfare, etc. Sure we would save money but dang... people aren't going to do what they are supposed to do.. it is their life.
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[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]I don't see why people care. If other people want to be fat, let them. Palantas

They're unattractive, and they go out into public from time to time.

Not going to disagree, but I am sure some of them think that they are the hotness.
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#191 ad1x2
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There's nothing wrong with wanting people to be more healthy. I don't make fun of obese people, but I do feel sorry for them if they refuse to accept the fact that if they don't adjust their diets and get more active they'll probably be dead by the time they are 40. Can't force them to lose weight, but you can let them know (in a respectful manner) that it's in their best interest to lose a few pounds.

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Muscle Fat >>> Skinny Fat. At same waight, or at same fat amount, or at same body fat percentage. Bears are hotter. :oops:

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#193 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="Palantas"]

[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]I don't see why people care. If other people want to be fat, let them. MistressMinako

They're unattractive, and they go out into public from time to time.

Not going to disagree, but I am sure some of them think that they are the hotness.

Chubby people rock, skinny people make me vomit. I'm a total chubaholic.

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[QUOTE="Palantas"]

[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]I don't see why people care. If other people want to be fat, let them. MistressMinako

They're unattractive, and they go out into public from time to time.

Not going to disagree, but I am sure some of them think that they are the hotness.

Most people are unattractive speaking in general terms.

Should we ban them from going out into public as well?

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#195 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Simple solution is to ban all junk food from being sold in public school cafterias.. When I attended Highschool, I swear to god 99% of the things they served were awful for you.. The two most popular meals usually bought was fries and chicken tenders covered in salt, or pizza.. We also had like 2 dozen pop machines streched around the entire building.. Ban these first and foremost. And if the parents or students object, well there is absolutely NOTHING stopping them frombringing a lunch from home.

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Only if they bother me.

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#197 UltimoIce
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It's not hard to stay thin. Period. I don't have sympathy for many fat people. And before you give me the "BUT IT'S GLANDULAR" argument, that is a very negligible part of the population. The majority of the USA's fat people are fat because of lifestyle choices.

By the time you are slightly chubby, you should already be making changes to rectify the issue before it spirals out of control.

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#198 deactivated-59d151f079814
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It's not hard to stay thin. Period. I don't have sympathy for many fat people. And before you give me the "BUT IT'S GLANDULAR" argument, that is a very negligible part of the population. The majority of the USA's fat people are fat because of lifestyle choices.

By the time you are slightly chubby, you should already be making changes to rectify the issue before it spirals out of control.

UltimoIce

That depends. Many children are that way because of poor parenting and schooling.. And you really can't hold the child responsible for that. Not to mention we live in a nation in which the junk food is cheaper than the healthy food.

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#199 UltimoIce
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[QUOTE="UltimoIce"]

It's not hard to stay thin. Period. I don't have sympathy for many fat people. And before you give me the "BUT IT'S GLANDULAR" argument, that is a very negligible part of the population. The majority of the USA's fat people are fat because of lifestyle choices.

By the time you are slightly chubby, you should already be making changes to rectify the issue before it spirals out of control.

sSubZerOo

That depends. Many children are that way because of poor parenting and schooling.. And you really can't hold the child responsible for that. Not to mention we live in a nation in which the junk food is cheaper than the healthy food.

Parents do play a major role, but all children grow up. And can you really tell me that as a child you had no idea whether or not you were chubby? I was kind of chubby in early middle school, and I realized it and became thin. So while I agree that parents should take a healthy role in their child's health, most (psychologically) healthy, functioning human beings can rationally decide to be healthy.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="UltimoIce"]

It's not hard to stay thin. Period. I don't have sympathy for many fat people. And before you give me the "BUT IT'S GLANDULAR" argument, that is a very negligible part of the population. The majority of the USA's fat people are fat because of lifestyle choices.

By the time you are slightly chubby, you should already be making changes to rectify the issue before it spirals out of control.

UltimoIce

That depends. Many children are that way because of poor parenting and schooling.. And you really can't hold the child responsible for that. Not to mention we live in a nation in which the junk food is cheaper than the healthy food.

Parents do play a major role, but all children grow up. And can you really tell me that as a child you had no idea whether or not you were chubby? I was kind of chubby in early middle school, and I realized it and became thin. So while I agree that parents should take a healthy role in their child's health, most (psychologically) healthy, functioning human beings can rationally decide to be healthy.

Kind of chubby? Is that suppose to make me think your a expert in the field? Because it certainly doesn't.. Furthermorea persons obesity can be a sign of depression for instance and other such things.. If it was as simple of a problem your stating it, there wouldn't be a epedemic, and there is..