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#1551 The-Apostle
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]so what's the final tally of OT folks who will be leaving due to the election results? dave123321
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I'll be leaving California soon as I can afford it.
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#1552 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]so what's the final tally of OT folks who will be leaving due to the election results? The-Apostle
KC ,DMC,storm marine

I'll be leaving California soon as I can afford it.

Smart man. California sucks ass.
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JAZZ <3sammyjenkis898

SAMMY!

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#1554 dave123321
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]so what's the final tally of OT folks who will be leaving due to the election results? The-Apostle
KC ,DMC,storm marine

I'll be leaving California soon as I can afford it.

I don't care
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#1555 dave123321
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Where will you be moving to anyway, apostle?
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#1556 PinkiePirate
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]

I don't understand how people could say stuff like this... It's like they are completely ignorant to everything that's happening.

Abbeten

I never saw a compelling argument for "The USA is in worse shape in 2012."

it's worse because we have an incumbent democrat

I don't know. If Bill Clinton was elected president right now, I have a feeling that things would be very similar.
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#1557 The-Apostle
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Where will you be moving to anyway, apostle?dave123321
I'm thinking Alaska, Idaho or an area in Texas that's not too hot. Or another conservative state, for that matter.
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#1558 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]Where will you be moving to anyway, apostle?The-Apostle
I'm thinking Alaska, Idaho or an area in Texas that's not too hot. Or another conservative state, for that matter.

South Dakota, Sioux Falls exactly, is always a nice place to reside. Cheap to live, and plenty of jobs.
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#1559 nocoolnamejim
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]Where will you be moving to anyway, apostle?The-Apostle
I'm thinking Alaska, Idaho or an area in Texas that's not too hot. Or another conservative state, for that matter.

Hah. I live in Idaho and wish I lived in someplace like California.
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#1560 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="dave123321"]Where will you be moving to anyway, apostle?nocoolnamejim
I'm thinking Alaska, Idaho or an area in Texas that's not too hot. Or another conservative state, for that matter.

Hah. I live in Idaho and wish I lived in someplace like California.

Why the f*ck would you want to move to California? Broken state it is with taxes out the ass.
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#1561 dave123321
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="dave123321"]Where will you be moving to anyway, apostle?nocoolnamejim
I'm thinking Alaska, Idaho or an area in Texas that's not too hot. Or another conservative state, for that matter.

Hah. I live in Idaho and wish I lived in someplace like California.

Swap
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#1562 dave123321
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]Where will you be moving to anyway, apostle?The-Apostle
I'm thinking Alaska, Idaho or an area in Texas that's not too hot. Or another conservative state, for that matter.

Alaska's nice
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#1563 Shinobi120
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Obama haters should thank their lucky stars that it's him & not Romney who won, because they all would've regretted voting for Romney in a few years time if he had won.

Especially the women who voted for Romney.

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#1564 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Obama haters should thank their lucky stars that it's him & not Romney who won, because they all would've regretted voting for Romney in a few years time if he had won.

Especially the women who voted for Romney.

Shinobi120
lol
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#1565 nocoolnamejim
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"] I'm thinking Alaska, Idaho or an area in Texas that's not too hot. Or another conservative state, for that matter.

Hah. I live in Idaho and wish I lived in someplace like California.

Why the f*ck would you want to move to California? Broken state it is with taxes out the ass.

Do we need to revisit the fact that we have different viewpoints on pretty much everything?
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#1566 dave123321
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Arizona would be nice, but they are overrun with illegals and Obama is to weak/lazy to fix it. @apostle
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#1567 dreman999
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[QUOTE="WolfattheDoor34"]

heh

Jazz_Fan

Paul Ryan's comment is actually correct. And "they rape so easy" is the funniest thing I've ever heard.

It's sad that Paul Ryans comment is the only intelligent one.
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#1568 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] Do we need to revisit the fact that we have different viewpoints on pretty much everything?

Doesn't matter on different viewpoints; anyone with common sense should understand California is a sinking ship. :?
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Colorado is looking pretty nice right now.
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#1570 The-Apostle
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"] I'm thinking Alaska, Idaho or an area in Texas that's not too hot. Or another conservative state, for that matter.

Hah. I live in Idaho and wish I lived in someplace like California.

Swap

I wish... Idaho is nice and cold too, so that's a plus. :D
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#1571 dave123321
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] Do we need to revisit the fact that we have different viewpoints on pretty much everything?

Doesn't matter on different viewpoints; anyone with common sense should understand California is a sinking ship. :?

I feel sorry for pirate
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]so what's the final tally of OT folks who will be leaving due to the election results? The-Apostle
KC ,DMC,storm marine

I'll be leaving California soon as I can afford it.

Come to Wisconsin. Lots of Packer fans and conservatives.

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#1573 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] Do we need to revisit the fact that we have different viewpoints on pretty much everything?

Doesn't matter on different viewpoints; anyone with common sense should understand California is a sinking ship. :?

I feel sorry for pirate

I feel sorry for myself since I have to move back to California after I graduate with my BA.
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#1574 dave123321
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Doesn't matter on different viewpoints; anyone with common sense should understand California is a sinking ship. :?Stevo_the_gamer
I feel sorry for pirate

I feel sorry for myself since I have to move back to California after I graduate with my BA.

At a crossroads.
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#1575 The-Apostle
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] Do we need to revisit the fact that we have different viewpoints on pretty much everything?

Doesn't matter on different viewpoints; anyone with common sense should understand California is a sinking ship. :?

Got that right... With the way things are going there won't be any businesses left next term. My sister and her husband are looking at moving their business to South Dakota.
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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] There are a lot of things that conservatives haven't seen coming lately. Last night for example.Stevo_the_gamer
Cute.

lol

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Oh yeah jim your d*ck feels so good.

I'm kidding. I dont like bottoming.

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#1577 dave123321
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] Do we need to revisit the fact that we have different viewpoints on pretty much everything?

Doesn't matter on different viewpoints; anyone with common sense should understand California is a sinking ship. :?

Got that right... With the way things are going there won't be any businesses left next term. My sister and her husband are looking at moving their business to South Dakota.

Best of luck man
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#1578 dave123321
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Stevo, nominate me for Ranger
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#1579 Abbeten
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so obamacare made it through SCOTUS and a national 'referendum' dang obamacare you scary
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so obamacare made it through SCOTUS and a national 'referendum' dang obamacare you scaryAbbeten

And the GOP led House will STILL try to repeal it, just you watch. It will be a symbolic vote, but it will happen again.

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#1581 soulless4now
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Proposition 30 passed in California. Thank the stars. Now my tuition won't go up. Praise Jebus. :cry:

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#1582 The-Apostle
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Proposition 30 passed in California. Thank the stars. Now my tuition won't go up. Praise Jebus. :cry:

soulless4now
Sweet, more tax hikes! :evil:
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#1583 Abbeten
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[QUOTE="Abbeten"]so obamacare made it through SCOTUS and a national 'referendum' dang obamacare you scaryjimkabrhel

And the GOP led House will STILL try to repeal it, just you watch. It will be a symbolic vote, but it will happen again.

It won't be a symbolic vote. THEY will be multiple symbolic voteS
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#1584 dagreenfish
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Colorado is looking pretty nice right now. -Sun_Tzu-
Colorado is always nice. Great place to live. :P
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#1585 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="Abbeten"]so obamacare made it through SCOTUS and a national 'referendum' dang obamacare you scary

Eventually it will probably become the new third rail of American politics, much like Medicare is in Canada and the NHS is in the UK. Even conservatives realize that the government is popular when it makes meaningful steps to actually help people.
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#1586 Abbeten
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[QUOTE="soulless4now"]

Proposition 30 passed in California. Thank the stars. Now my tuition won't go up. Praise Jebus. :cry:

The-Apostle
Sweet, more tax hikes! :evil:

do you make over 250,000 yearly
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[QUOTE="soulless4now"]

Proposition 30 passed in California. Thank the stars. Now my tuition won't go up. Praise Jebus. :cry:

The-Apostle

Sweet, more tax hikes! :evil:

You seem like the type of guy who would oppose universal healthcare due to an increase in tax despite that it will actually be saving a lot of money.

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#1588 Abbeten
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taxes are evil but the deficit is evil too what is a distraught young conservative to do
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#1589 The-Apostle
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="soulless4now"]

Proposition 30 passed in California. Thank the stars. Now my tuition won't go up. Praise Jebus. :cry:

Abbeten
Sweet, more tax hikes! :evil:

do you make over 250,000 yearly

No, but it means business owners that do will be either hiring less people or fleeing the state.
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#1590 The-Apostle
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="soulless4now"]

Proposition 30 passed in California. Thank the stars. Now my tuition won't go up. Praise Jebus. :cry:

toast_burner

Sweet, more tax hikes! :evil:

You seem like the type of guy who would oppose universal healthcare due to an increase in tax despite that it will actually be saving a lot of money.

It will actually cost a lot more money.
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Proposition 30 passed in California. Thank the stars. Now my tuition won't go up. Praise Jebus. :cry:

soulless4now
Hell yes! California citizens do have some sense!
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Sweet, more tax hikes! :evil:

do you make over 250,000 yearly

No, but it means business owners that do will be either hiring less people or fleeing the state.

you know that like 97% of businesses that file taxes under personal income make less than $250,000 yearly, right that said, i'd have preferred if we could have forgone the sales/income tax duo and just adjusted property taxes. too bad that's basically impossible! thanks, howard jarvis taxpayer association!
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Sweet, more tax hikes! :evil:The-Apostle

You seem like the type of guy who would oppose universal healthcare due to an increase in tax despite that it will actually be saving a lot of money.

It will actually cost a lot more money.

Then why is it that countries that have universal healthcare systems rank higher than the US and spend much less on healthcare?

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Sweet, more tax hikes! :evil:The-Apostle

You seem like the type of guy who would oppose universal healthcare due to an increase in tax despite that it will actually be saving a lot of money.

It will actually cost a lot more money.

You don't know what you're talking about but that's no surprise.

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#1595 Abbeten
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

You seem like the type of guy who would oppose universal healthcare due to an increase in tax despite that it will actually be saving a lot of money.

toast_burner

It will actually cost a lot more money.

Then why is it that countries that have universal healthcare systems rank higher than the US and spend much less on healthcare?

no you see those countries are fundamentally different than america and what works there won't ever work here because reasons
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#1596 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Sweet, more tax hikes! :evil:

do you make over 250,000 yearly

No, but it means business owners that do will be either hiring less people or fleeing the state.

California has the biggest economy by far in the country and GDP per capita in the state is significantly higher than it is in the country in general. Reports of California's impending doom in this thread are being greatly exaggerated, although the state does have real systemic problems with its government (but many other states do as well).
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#1597 Abbeten
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what california needs to do is get rid of the initiative system so we stop voting ourselves crazy amounts of spending projects while making it impossible to pay for them. seriously though, direct democracy doesn't work
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#1598 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="Abbeten"]what california needs to do is get rid of the initiative system so we stop voting ourselves crazy amounts of spending projects while making it impossible to pay for them. seriously though, direct democracy doesn't work

It should also probably get rid of term limits as well. All term limits do is take power away from elected representatives and give it to unelected lobbyists.
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#1599 The-Apostle
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="soulless4now"] do you make over 250,000 yearly

No, but it means business owners that do will be either hiring less people or fleeing the state.

California has the biggest economy by far in the country and GDP per capita in the state is significantly higher than it is in the country in general. Reports of California's impending doom in this thread are being greatly exaggerated, although the state does have real systemic problems with its government (but many other states do as well).

Right... That's why California is bankrupt and has a massive debt crisis.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] It will actually cost a lot more money.Abbeten

Then why is it that countries that have universal healthcare systems rank higher than the US and spend much less on healthcare?

no you see those countries are fundamentally different than america and what works there won't ever work here because reasons

Reasons such as?