People boycotting Thor becaus of black actor, portraying Heimdell

http://movies.ign.com/articles/114/1140914p1.html

Personally the group demanding the boycott seems akin to groups like stormfront. Not to mention Idris Eldris is a good actor, and I am glad to see him play a non villian role for once.

This group probably has about 4 members, so I highly doubt it will affect the ticket sales of Thor.

Yes I really don't see this getting that big, but I also don't see this movie being extremmly popular.

It seems like a slap in the face to good ol'Scandinavian mythology :>

It seems like a slap in the face to good ol'Scandinavian mythology :>

mywalletsgone

Marvel stopped taking mythology seriously in the thor series ages ago.

I don't mean this to be racist, but why is a black actor playing a Norse God? That's not racist to question the decision as it doesn't make sense and seems to just be a move to be inclusive just for inclusive sake.

[QUOTE="mywalletsgone"]

It seems like a slap in the face to good ol'Scandinavian mythology :>

Mercenary848

Marvel stopped taking mythology seriously in the thor series ages ago.

Yes but it's not very professional as it ignores source material. How racist though!!

:lol: So what, this can't be as bad as Jesus being depicted as a white person.

I don't mean this to be racist, but why is a black actor playing a Norse God? That's not racist to question the decision as it doesn't make sense and seems to just be a move to be inclusive just for inclusive sake.

Pirate700

I agree. I'm black and it's like making a Aquaman(love him) movie with Black Atlanteans. I'm huge fan of the character so that'd be weird/stupid. I didn't mind Michael Clark Duncan playing Kingpin in Daredevil because his body size matched the character, but it was something that everyone took notice to. So I could see why a black Norsegod would upset alot of people.

why are they doing this again?:|

I dont see the logic at all. Not even the slightest

:lol: So what, this can't be as bad as Jesus being depicted as a white person.

Choga

I don't mean this to be racist, but why is a black actor playing a Norse God? That's not racist to question the decision as it doesn't make sense and seems to just be a move to be inclusive just for inclusive sake.

Pirate700

I guess because in the Marvel Universe they are not really Norse Gods, but being that inspired norse gods. But in the comics Heimdell is white.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't mean this to be racist, but why is a black actor playing a Norse God? That's not racist to question the decision as it doesn't make sense and seems to just be a move to be inclusive just for inclusive sake.

AtlanticRock

I agree. I'm black and it's like making a Aquaman(love him) movie with Black Atlanteans. I'm huge fan of the character so that'd be weird/stupid. I didn't mind Michael Clark Duncan playing Kingpin in Daredevil because his body size matched the character, but it was something that everyone took notice to. So I could see why a black Norsegod would upset alot of people.

[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

[QUOTE="mywalletsgone"]

It seems like a slap in the face to good ol'Scandinavian mythology :>

mywalletsgone

Marvel stopped taking mythology seriously in the thor series ages ago.

Yes but it's not very professional as it ignores source material. How racist though!!

True, but comics are ever expanding and if they followed norse mythology 100% the series would have died off ages ago.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't mean this to be racist, but why is a black actor playing a Norse God? That's not racist to question the decision as it doesn't make sense and seems to just be a move to be inclusive just for inclusive sake.

AtlanticRock

I agree. I'm black and it's like making a Aquaman(love him) movie with Black Atlanteans. I'm huge fan of the character so that'd be weird/stupid. I didn't mind Michael Clark Duncan playing Kingpin in Daredevil because his body size matched the character, but it was something that everyone took notice to. So I could see why a black Norsegod would upset alot of people.

I don't mean this to be racist, but why is a black actor playing a Norse God? That's not racist to question the decision as it doesn't make sense and seems to just be a move to be inclusive just for inclusive sake.

Pirate700

are you serious?

The series has taken so many liberties with the mythology i dont see how skin color would matter any more..

i dont see how you can claim they are norse gods. The series is all over the place.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't mean this to be racist, but why is a black actor playing a Norse God? That's not racist to question the decision as it doesn't make sense and seems to just be a move to be inclusive just for inclusive sake.

Mercenary848

I guess because in the Marvel Universe they are not really Norse Gods, but being that inspired norse gods. But in the comics Heimdell is white.

I get that but PC or not the ancient Norse and their Gods epitomized Arianism. Having a black actor or asian, etc. just doesn't make sense. That would be like casting a white actor for a Mohamed Ali movie. I'm aware Marvel is starting to get hyper PC these days but some moves are just absurd and it's not racist to point that out. IGN vilified the very questioning of the role and I don't think that's right either.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't mean this to be racist, but why is a black actor playing a Norse God? That's not racist to question the decision as it doesn't make sense and seems to just be a move to be inclusive just for inclusive sake.

AtlanticRock

I agree. I'm black and it's like making a Aquaman(love him) movie with Black Atlanteans. I'm huge fan of the character so that'd be weird/stupid. I didn't mind Michael Clark Duncan playing Kingpin in Daredevil because his body size matched the character, but it was something that everyone took notice to. So I could see why a black Norsegod would upset alot of people.

The only Black Aquaman charachter is his main villian Black Manta. And that dude has murdered babies and killed innocent people. Whats up with that a black man going up against the blond blue eyed king and killing his son...racist JK. Anyway maybe Idris was the best actor for this part, honestly he probably could play thor.

[QUOTE="mywalletsgone"]

[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

Marvel stopped taking mythology seriously in the thor series ages ago.

Yes but it's not very professional as it ignores source material. How racist though!!

True, but comics are ever expanding and if they followed norse mythology 100% the series would have died off ages ago.

[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't mean this to be racist, but why is a black actor playing a Norse God? That's not racist to question the decision as it doesn't make sense and seems to just be a move to be inclusive just for inclusive sake.

Pirate700

I guess because in the Marvel Universe they are not really Norse Gods, but being that inspired norse gods. But in the comics Heimdell is white.

I get that but PC or not the ancient Norse and their Gods epitomized Arianism. Having a black actor or asian, etc. just doesn't make sense. That would be like casting a white actor for a Mohamed Ali movie. I'm aware Marvel is starting to get hyper PC these days but some moves are just absurd and it's not racist to point that out. IGN vilified the very questioning of the role and I don't think that's right either.

They epitomized Arianism? I'm sorry, but the only religion that epitimizes arianism is Hinduism. Secondly, if people can tolerate Christ being portrayed as a white man for hundreds of years, they can tolerate a stupid Marvel movie.

:lol: So what, this can't be as bad as Jesus being depicted as a white person.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

I guess because in the Marvel Universe they are not really Norse Gods, but being that inspired norse gods. But in the comics Heimdell is white.

Choga

I get that but PC or not the ancient Norse and their Gods epitomized Arianism. Having a black actor or asian, etc. just doesn't make sense. That would be like casting a white actor for a Mohamed Ali movie. I'm aware Marvel is starting to get hyper PC these days but some moves are just absurd and it's not racist to point that out. IGN vilified the very questioning of the role and I don't think that's right either.

They epitomized Arianism? I'm sorry, but the only religion that epitimizes arianism is Hinduism. Secondly, if people can tolerate Christ being portrayed as a white man for hundreds of years, they can tolerate a stupid Marvel movie.

Well, seems they have a point. A black man shouoldn't be playing a Norse god. If only it wasn't a stupid racist group who brought attention to it.DudeNtheRoom

implying they are norse gods

Well, seems they have a point. A black man shouoldn't be playing a Norse god. If only it wasn't a stupid racist group who brought attention to it.DudeNtheRoom

What people are forgetting is the Asgardians(that is what they are in the comics, not norse gods) are beings born from another realm. Not gods of human folklore. They found our world(midguard) and introduced themselves. Thor met the vikings and they were inspired by him, but he did not like the things they did in his name so he left earth and did not return until his father sent him back. During his time gone the vikings used the image of the asgardians as their gods(considering it was their first experience with superbeings).

[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="Choga"]

:lol: So what, this can't be as bad as Jesus being depicted as a white person.

blue_hazy_basic

Since race alone is the issue here, it's irrelevant weather or not it would have been a "stretch." The fact is he was played by someone of a different race than the historical man actually was.

[QUOTE="AtlanticRock"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't mean this to be racist, but why is a black actor playing a Norse God? That's not racist to question the decision as it doesn't make sense and seems to just be a move to be inclusive just for inclusive sake.

Mercenary848

I agree. I'm black and it's like making a Aquaman(love him) movie with Black Atlanteans. I'm huge fan of the character so that'd be weird/stupid. I didn't mind Michael Clark Duncan playing Kingpin in Daredevil because his body size matched the character, but it was something that everyone took notice to. So I could see why a black Norsegod would upset alot of people.

The only Black Aquaman charachter is his main villian Black Manta. And that dude has murdered babies and killed innocent people. Whats up with that a black man going up against the blond blue eyed king and killing his son...racist JK. Anyway maybe Idris was the best actor for this part, honestly he probably could play thor.

Aqualad would like to have a word with you! (P.S. - he's Black Manta's son)

P.P.S. (Aqua.Facts) - There's more black underwater characters but they are not Atlanteans... they are people who just have the ability to breath underwater :-P

I just looked up who this black actor was and I don't think he's anything special. I don't see how he would have made a better god than another.DudeNtheRoom

The dude played Stringer Bell on the Wire, he is GOAT.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] This man has a point.Choga

Since race alone is the issue here, it's irrelevant weather or not it would have been a "stretch." The fact is he was played by someone of a different race than the historical man actually was.

[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

[QUOTE="AtlanticRock"]

I agree. I'm black and it's like making a Aquaman(love him) movie with Black Atlanteans. I'm huge fan of the character so that'd be weird/stupid. I didn't mind Michael Clark Duncan playing Kingpin in Daredevil because his body size matched the character, but it was something that everyone took notice to. So I could see why a black Norsegod would upset alot of people.

AtlanticRock

The only Black Aquaman charachter is his main villian Black Manta. And that dude has murdered babies and killed innocent people. Whats up with that a black man going up against the blond blue eyed king and killing his son...racist JK. Anyway maybe Idris was the best actor for this part, honestly he probably could play thor.

Aqualad would like to have a word with you! (P.S. - he's Black Manta's son)

P.P.S. (Aqua.Facts) - There's more black underwater characters but they are not Atlanteans... they are people who just have the ability to breath underwater :-P

When I first heard he was mantas son I really wanted to read, but I am so out of the loop with DC and this whole brightest day thing. But my post was mainly a joke.

There are alot of inconsistencies in norse mythos, loki for example gives birth to a snake and something else.

If having a black portray a norse God but had no problem with morgan freeman in bruce almighty then perehaps you are racist then perhaps you are not:P

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]I just looked up who this black actor was and I don't think he's anything special. I don't see how he would have made a better god than another.Mercenary848

The dude played Stringer Bell on the Wire, he is GOAT.

[QUOTE="AtlanticRock"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't mean this to be racist, but why is a black actor playing a Norse God? That's not racist to question the decision as it doesn't make sense and seems to just be a move to be inclusive just for inclusive sake.

-Big_Red-

I agree. I'm black and it's like making a Aquaman(love him) movie with Black Atlanteans. I'm huge fan of the character so that'd be weird/stupid. I didn't mind Michael Clark Duncan playing Kingpin in Daredevil because his body size matched the character, but it was something that everyone took notice to. So I could see why a black Norsegod would upset alot of people.

There are alot of inconsistencies in norse mythos, loki for example gives birth to a snake and something else.

If having a black portray a norse God but had no problem with morgan freeman in bruce almighty then perehaps you are racist then perhaps you are not:P

Zaibach

[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]I just looked up who this black actor was and I don't think he's anything special. I don't see how he would have made a better god than another.Pirate700

The dude played Stringer Bell on the Wire, he is GOAT.

Greatest Of All Time ;)

I just looked up who this black actor was and I don't think he's anything special. I don't see how he would have made a better god than another.DudeNtheRoom

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

Greatest Of All Time ;)

Mercenary848

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

There are alot of inconsistencies in norse mythos, loki for example gives birth to a snake and something else.

If having a black portray a norse God but had no problem with morgan freeman in bruce almighty then perehaps you are racist then perhaps you are not:P

Pirate700

jesus is white MAZ85

No, but Cesare Borgia was.

jesus is white MAZ85

[QUOTE="MAZ85"]jesus is white Choga

No, but Cesare Borgia was.

When I first heard he was mantas son I really wanted to read, but I am so out of the loop with DC and this whole brightest day thing. But my post was mainly a joke.

Mercenary848

Yeah I know... from the BP sig I know you're a Marvel, I'm a DC(well not really I'm just an Aqua-fan). Brightest Day is cool but you'd have to read Blackest Night first... Only marvel book I read was Doctor Voodoo(for obvious reason), but I was thinking of reading Namor since DC has Aquaman stuck in Brightest Day til next year...

[QUOTE="Choga"]

[QUOTE="MAZ85"]jesus is white blue_hazy_basic

No, but Cesare Borgia was.

Do you have a source for this? The general population was by no means of Roman descent.

[QUOTE="MAZ85"]jesus is white blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Choga"]

No, but Cesare Borgia was.

Choga

Do you have a source for this? The general population was by no means of Roman descent.

EDIT the Greeks has colonised cities all over the mediterranean, and were often in conflict with other groups, mainly persian, who are also an Ayrian people.

Forgive all my spelling mistakes working and typing!

[QUOTE="Choga"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Again what race do you think he was? At the time the middle east was largely greek and Roman, not as it is today.blue_hazy_basic

Do you have a source for this? The general population was by no means of Roman descent.

Again, this is not true. Though it was technically part of the Hellenic world, the population was not "Greek" in the ethnic sense. We are of course referring to the Galileans, of which Jesus was descended. They had mostly modern day middle-eastern racial features.

This thread didn't take long to derail. :P