Pizza is now a Vegetable

Huh? Double huh? It's not that it's not politically correct, it's that it's not very healthy. This has nothing to do with liberals so stop trying to spin it that way. Remember when Reagan tried to get ketchup classified as a vegetable so that school budgets remained cheap?Engrish_Major

If it comes from a liberal policy, it's from liberals. Stop thinking that I'm bashing liberals for no apparent reason. It is liberals that are propagating the thought that it's not healthy, when in reality if kids got the exercise they needed every day, we wouldn't have this problem.

Plus, I doubt very much that school lunches have more of an effect on a person than their eating habits at home.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]I don't know what this has to do with political correctness, or what it has to do with liberals at all. But here are the articles: airshocker

The only reason they have to label pizza as a vegetable is because of the standards the Obama administration and Dept of Agriculture set for school lunches being healthier. They only sought to make these changes because it's not politically correct for kids to eat french fries and pizza.

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]:lol: Only you can interpret a GOP committee action to being because of liberals!Serraph105

They wouldn't have to do any of this if it wasn't because of a liberal president's agenda. :)

I think you are mistaking PCness and being healthy, but whatever.

Serraph105

They only sought to make these changes because it's not wealthy for kids to eat french fries and pizza.

airshocker

Edit: Oh...nevermind. :(

Where do they grow pizzas? I want to plant one such tree in my backyardSandulf29

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Huh? Double huh? It's not that it's not politically correct, it's that it's not very healthy. This has nothing to do with liberals so stop trying to spin it that way. Remember when Reagan tried to get ketchup classified as a vegetable so that school budgets remained cheap?airshocker

If it comes from a liberal policy, it's from liberals. Stop thinking that I'm bashing liberals for no apparent reason. It is liberals that are propagating the thought that it's not healthy, when in reality if kids got the exercise they needed every day, we wouldn't have this problem.

Plus, I doubt very much that school lunches have more of an effect on a person than their eating habits at home.

The main component of a pizza is the dough - without it, you don't have a pizza, so it isn't a vegetable just because of some smeared-on sauce.

topsemag55

So, what you're saying is that pizza is, in fact, a grain? :o

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The main component of a pizza is the dough - without it, you don't have a pizza, so it isn't a vegetable just because of some smeared-on sauce.

Necrifer

So, what you're saying is that pizza is, in fact, a grain? :o

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

They wouldn't have to do any of this if it wasn't because of a liberal president's agenda. :)

surrealnumber5

Fast food also correlates with obesity

Sooo.... you are stating that a regular diet of french fries and pizza is healthy?

Engrish_Major

When mixed with good amounts of exercise.

Sooo.... you are stating that a regular diet of french fries and pizza is healthy?Engrish_Major

I eat french fries every damn day for lunch. I also workout four or five times a week. I'm 5'11 and my weight is usually around 170. I also watch my caloric intake.

A lack of physical activity in schools is the real culprit, not the food.

Wow, DC's budget really goes through Congress? That's insane.

airshocker

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Sooo.... you are stating that a regular diet of french fries and pizza is healthy?airshocker

I eat french fries every damn day for lunch. I also workout four or five times a week. I'm 5'11 and my weight is usually around 170. I also watch my caloric intake.

A lack of physical activity in schools is the real culprit, not the food.

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[QUOTE="Serraph105"] no matter what presidential administration is in power, congress is going to have to deal with their agenda. It is of course their choice if they want to handle it in a profoundly idiotic way, which seems to be this congress's course of action far more often than not.kuraimen

Fast food also correlates with obesity

so glad i don't live in DC ;s though i currently live in an unincorporated city/zip so i don't even know what or who makes decisions for meJandurin

Unincorporated towns usually have an executive that makes the decisions. Once they get incorporated into a larger town(usually a conglomeration of villages, hamlets, etc) that town supervisor or executive takes over. For instance, I live in the village of Suffern in the Town of Ramapo. We have a town supervisor that makes all of our budget decisions.

no it's the food too many people learn too early that as soon as they have a hunger pang they can calm it with food that is a terrible thing to thinkJandurin

That's more of an education thing, not a food thing.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]No, it's not because it's politically incorrect, it is because it's unhealthy. The absurdity is trying to pass it as healthy.airshocker

You will not die by eating french fries and pizza every day, silly. If children actually did things in Phys. Ed. and weren't allowed to just sit on the bleachers, we'd have a much healthier student body.

Well that goes against everything health specialists recommed by I'm sure you know better.kuraimen

No it doesn't. It's all about caloric intake. So long as the excess intake is offset by physical activity that burns calories, it is healthy.

I was in the Air Force, I know a little thing about fitness since I had to pass fitness tests every six months.

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You will not die by eating french fries and pizza every day, silly. If children actually did things in Phys. Ed. and weren't allowed to just sit on the bleachers, we'd have a much healthier student body.

kuraimen

Well that goes against everything health specialists recommed by I'm sure you know better.

No, it doesn't...

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"] no matter what presidential administration is in power, congress is going to have to deal with their agenda. It is of course their choice if they want to handle it in a profoundly idiotic way, which seems to be this congress's course of action far more often than not.kuraimen

Fast food also correlates with obesity

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] stupidity beget stupidity. the issue is not nutrition but activity. one stupid "fix" gets its own stupid "fix" and for once on some stupid level the system worked.

Planet_Pluto

Fast food also correlates with obesity

It's not so difficult to imagine why the amount of time spent eating is related to things like fast food specially in the US which is the fast food nation. That's why it's called fast food.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Well that goes against everything health specialists recommed by I'm sure you know better.airshocker

No it doesn't. It's all about caloric intake. So long as the excess intake is offset by physical activity that burns calories, it is healthy.

I was in the Air Force, I know a little thing about fitness since I had to pass fitness tests every six months.

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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

The main component of a pizza is the dough - without it, you don't have a pizza, so it isn't a vegetable just because of some smeared-on sauce.

Planet_Pluto

So, what you're saying is that pizza is, in fact, a grain? :o

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

You will not die by eating french fries and pizza every day, silly. If children actually did things in Phys. Ed. and weren't allowed to just sit on the bleachers, we'd have a much healthier student body.

Necrifer

Well that goes against everything health specialists recommed by I'm sure you know better.

No, it doesn't...

No, all calories are not created equal. High glycemic foods are directly related to higher weight and instances of diabetes.Engrish_Major

And as I said, if the required physical activity per day was completed, this wouldn't be a problem.

So health specialists don't recommend eating healthy? No wonder there's so much overweight people in teh US, what kind of health specialists do you have?kuraimen

Don't put words in other peoples mouths. That's not what either of us said.

So health specialists don't recommend eating healthy? No wonder there's so much overweight people in teh US, what kind of health specialists do you have?

kuraimen

Eating healthy alone does not solve anything. That's all that needs to be said. There are factors that determine health other than diet.

I am suddenly getting my full R.D.A. of vegetables!!!!!

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]No, all calories are not created equal. High glycemic foods are directly related to higher weight and instances of diabetes.airshocker

And as I said, if the required physical activity per day was completed, this wouldn't be a problem.

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

Fast food also correlates with obesity

kuraimen

It's not so difficult to imagine why the amount of time spent eating is related to things like fast food specially in the US which is the fast food nation. That's why it's called fast food.

yeah, calories are DEFINITELY not created equal

Jandurin

That's discrimination.

unless you are a performance athlete or have dietary problems, what you eat is not all that important as long as you eat a range of foods. seriously, you, me, and 99.999 of everyone else on this planet has no reason to have a calculated and planned diet. FYI that is 1 out of ever 100,000 people in my estimate. humanity did not evolve to require exacting levels of micro and macro nutrients.

So you do not believe that getting the required nutrients and vitamins from, say, actual vegetables is important to children?Engrish_Major

No, a balanced diet is optimal, but having pizza or french fries for lunch every day will do absolutely nothing to your body so long as your caloric intake remains where your body requires it to be.

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So health specialists don't recommend eating healthy? No wonder there's so much overweight people in teh US, what kind of health specialists do you have?

Necrifer

Eating healthy alone does not solve anything. That's all that needs to be said. There are factors that determine health other than diet.

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

Fast food also correlates with obesity

kuraimen

It's not so difficult to imagine why the amount of time spent eating is related to things like fast food specially in the US which is the fast food nation. That's why it's called fast food.

Anyway, my point is, pizza is the best vegetable.

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[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]That chart doesn't indicate anything about fast food.

Planet_Pluto

It's not so difficult to imagine why the amount of time spent eating is related to things like fast food specially in the US which is the fast food nation. That's why it's called fast food.

And eating healthy is part of an integral process. You can't just expect to eat pizaa and french fries everyday and be healthy no matter how much exercise you do. It's even common sense.

kuraimen

Actually, I can.

I'm pretty sure that the word of multiple doctors ismore reliablethan whatever hearsay youhave provided.

Anyway, my point is, pizza is the best vegetable.

Necrifer

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

It's not so difficult to imagine why the amount of time spent eating is related to things like fast food specially in the US which is the fast food nation. That's why it's called fast food.

kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

And eating healthy is part of an integral process. You can't just expect to eat pizaa and french fries everyday and be healthy no matter how much exercise you do. It's even common sense.

Necrifer

Actually, I can.

I'm pretty sure that the word of multiple doctors ismore reliablethan whatever hearsay youhave provided.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]So you do not believe that getting the required nutrients and vitamins from, say, actual vegetables is important to children?airshocker

No, a balanced diet is optimal, but having pizza or french fries for lunch every day will do absolutely nothing to your body so long as your caloric intake remains where your body requires it to be.

And eating healthy is key to keeping your caloric intake where it needs to be. High glycemic foods such as pizza ingredients and fries are metabolized very quickly in your body, in contrast to lower glycemic foods such as meat and actual vegetables. When you eat high glycemic foods, you are just hungry again in an hour or two. And most people will just eat again when they are hungry. High glycemic foods cause people to eat more calories.Engrish_Major

What people do when they get hungry again has nothing to do with this. We're talking about the food themselves not being unhealthy.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]So, you are trying to make a point about fast food, so you produce a chart (that hopefully was based on scientific study) that has nothing to do with fast food. And to make the leap you use your imagination?

Planet_Pluto

The chart about physical activity says nothing about fast food either :|

Here a scientific study for you
http://www.emeraldinsight.com/journals.htm?articleid=1812142&show=html

It is found that GPA is negatively correlated with BMI and fast food intake, and BMI and fast food intake are positively correlated in the American sample.

And here is the amount of McDonalds in the US. Relaly it is not so farfetched to see why America is the most overweight nation in the world. Of course physical activity has to do with it but thinking that fast food is not is pretty naive.