Should women have the right to have an abortion?

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#1 ninjacat11
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Before we begin, I know that this is a sensitive topic for many. So please, let's keep debate on this topic as civil as possible.

So, discuss.

I personally believe that women should have as much right to have an abortion as they do today. I'm not a fan of it, but women should have the right to choose. It's their body. Let them do whatever the hell they want with it.

A fetus really cannot be considered a living, breathing human until it is out of the womb.

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#2 Def_Jef88
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Yes they do.
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Yes, unless its my baby...in which case no....
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#4 Silver_Dragon17
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Sure.

And while we're at it, let's give rednecks the right to kill their civilised kids. After all, they didn't want it.:roll:

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#5 Anamosa41
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My definition of abortion is murder.
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#6 Def_Jef88
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My definition of abortion is murder.Anamosa41

Murder is the unlawful killing of someone, therefore, your definition fails...

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#7 Def_Jef88
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Sure.

And while we're at it, let's give rednecks the right to kill their civilised kids. After all, they didn't want it.:roll:

Silver_Dragon17
feuts =/= child... :|
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#8 foxhound_fox
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Should OT posters have the right to have some original content?

Anyways... yes, they should. The personal business of one person is not the business of others. If a woman wants to abort her child, it is her choice.
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#9 Silver_Dragon17
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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

Sure.

And while we're at it, let's give rednecks the right to kill their civilised kids. After all, they didn't want it.:roll:

Def_Jef88

feuts =/= child... :|

Yes. . .it does.:|

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#10 Def_Jef88
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[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

Sure.

And while we're at it, let's give rednecks the right to kill their civilised kids. After all, they didn't want it.:roll:

Silver_Dragon17

feuts =/= child... :|

Yes. . .it does.:|

no.. it doesent... :|
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#11 Silver_Dragon17
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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

Sure.

And while we're at it, let's give rednecks the right to kill their civilised kids. After all, they didn't want it.:roll:

Def_Jef88

feuts =/= child... :|

Yes. . .it does.:|

no.. it doesent... :|

Why?

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#12 deshields538
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I disagree with abortion. If you didn't want a kid then you shouldn't have done the deed in the first place!
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#13 Outsider-G
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Yes
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#14 foxhound_fox
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Why?Silver_Dragon17


A foetus that is in the first or second trimester hardly resembles a human being. A third trimester foetus if born early still requires outside assistance to keep it alive. A child is only a child if it can stay alive under its own bodily functions.

Majority of abortions are done during the first trimester... when the foetus is nothing but a amalgam of cells.
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#15 Mr_Leonis
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I think the parents of the unborn should come to an agreement before hand.

If shes a single parent, then yeah she should.

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#16 Silver_Dragon17
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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]Why?foxhound_fox


A foetus that is in the first or second trimester hardly resembles a human being. A third trimester foetus if born early still requires outside assistance to keep it alive. A child is only a child if it can stay alive under its own bodily functions.

Majority of abortions are done during the first trimester... when the foetus is nothing but a amalgam of cells.

"It doesn't look like a human, so it isn't."

All right, kill anybody with a deformity.:roll:

"A child is only a child if it can live on its own."

All right, then kill anybody who needs to live with a respirator. After all, they aren't human.

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#17 ninjacat11
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I disagree with abortion. If you didn't want a kid then you shouldn't have done the deed in the first place!deshields538

That makes no sense. What if the person was raped? Or if her very life is at risk?

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#18 nintendo_ds_06
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i think that if the mothers life is at stake or she was rapedthen yes, ifthey wasnt then they shouldnt have the right to kill a child

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#19 Silver_Dragon17
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Majority of abortions are done during the first trimester... when the foetus is nothing but a amalgam of cells.foxhound_fox

Really? I'd like to introduce you to my friend Dr. Errich Harrah.

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#20 branketra
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I guess. Even if a baby is conjured...through rape, it's still living.
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#21 deshields538
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[QUOTE="deshields538"]I disagree with abortion. If you didn't want a kid then you shouldn't have done the deed in the first place!ninjacat11

That makes no sense. What if the person was raped? Or if her very life is at risk?

In those circumstances abortion is acceptable to me. I was thinking of a woman who didn't want a baby because it could ruin her working career which seems very selfish to me.

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#22 CHAOSWEAV3R
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Yes. They should have the option to have one if they want one.
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#23 foxhound_fox
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"It doesn't look like a human, so it isn't."

All right, kill anybody with a deformity.:roll:

"A child is only a child if it can live on its own."

All right, then kill anybody who needs to live with a respirator. After all, they aren't human.

Silver_Dragon17


Deformity: They are living under their own power.
Respirator: They were at one point living under their own power.

Disagree with it all you want. I am not trying to justify it outright. I am just saying that a woman should be allowed to choose whether or not she wants an abortion. It should not be up to a government or religious group to make that choice for her.
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#24 Def_Jef88
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[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

Sure.

And while we're at it, let's give rednecks the right to kill their civilised kids. After all, they didn't want it.:roll:

Silver_Dragon17

feuts =/= child... :|

Yes. . .it does.:|

no.. it doesent... :|

Why?

It isnt self aware, isnt even fully developed, cant feel pain. Its just a clump of cells...
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#25 Kcube
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"Only if she is raped, a victim of incest, or her life is at stake"

ANything else is just murder

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#26 Silver_Dragon17
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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]"It doesn't look like a human, so it isn't."

All right, kill anybody with a deformity.:roll:

"A child is only a child if it can live on its own."

All right, then kill anybody who needs to live with a respirator. After all, they aren't human.

foxhound_fox



Deformity: They are living under their own power.
Respirator: They were at one point living under their own power.

Disagree with it all you want. I am not trying to justify it outright. I am just saying that a woman should be allowed to choose whether or not she wants an abortion. It should not be up to a government or religious group to make that choice for her.

And I don't think anybody should have the choice to kill a human being.

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#27 foxhound_fox
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"Only if she is raped, a victim of incest, or her life is at stake"

ANything else is just murder

Kcube


That is quite hypocritical...

If a woman doesn't want the child inside of her and wants to get an abortion by your definition it is all murder, there are no special circumstances that "make it right." There cannot be any special circumstances that make it justifiable. It is up to the individual to make that choice.

And I don't think anybody should have the choice to kill a human being.Silver_Dragon17


Great. Thanks for your opinion on the matter. Another's opinion should have no bearing on the choice of the individual.
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#28 EndersAres
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No. Abortion is murder. I think if anyone that would do something so horrible should have to pay a debt to society. One of the things is take away the ability to have future children. This also includes the male partner if he has anything to do with it. Also it should be public record that the operation was performed and paying extra taxes every year. This is a fair punishment for future and current people who consider and receive an abortion. Our government needs to grow a pair and ban it permanently.
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#29 Silver_Dragon17
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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

Sure.

And while we're at it, let's give rednecks the right to kill their civilised kids. After all, they didn't want it.:roll:

Def_Jef88

feuts =/= child... :|

Yes. . .it does.:|

no.. it doesent... :|

Why?

It isnt self aware, isnt even fully developed, cant feel pain. Its just a clump of cells...

Really?

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#30 enix15
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[QUOTE="ninjacat11"]

[QUOTE="deshields538"]I disagree with abortion. If you didn't want a kid then you shouldn't have done the deed in the first place!deshields538

That makes no sense. What if the person was raped? Or if her very life is at risk?

In those circumstances abortion is acceptable to me. I was thinking of a woman who didn't want a baby because it could ruin her working career which seems very selfish to me.

Yes in the essence of rape or something that would risk the women's life i would accept that but something like ruin working career

or something less than that i wouldn't like it but it is the women's choice and body nothing outside of that should make the choice

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#31 RainandSunshine
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What's rape have to do with anything? nothing. Only logical Solution is Yes.

No one has the right or authoriy to tell someone what they can or cannot do. Yes. I believe in Anarchy, and there is no need to tell me how wrong I am. I've heard it al lbefore.

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#32 CptJSparrow
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Yes. By the way, fetuses are alive.
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[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

Sure.

And while we're at it, let's give rednecks the right to kill their civilised kids. After all, they didn't want it.:roll:

Silver_Dragon17

feuts =/= child... :|

Yes. . .it does.:|

no.. it doesent... :|

Why?

It isnt self aware, isnt even fully developed, cant feel pain. Its just a clump of cells...

Really?

awesome source.... no really... :roll:
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#34 Skullheart
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Yes, women deserve the right. And people who say otherwise and try and kill the doctors who grant those wishes deserve horrible deaths.
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#35 Silver_Dragon17
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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

Sure.

And while we're at it, let's give rednecks the right to kill their civilised kids. After all, they didn't want it.:roll:

Def_Jef88

feuts =/= child... :|

Yes. . .it does.:|

no.. it doesent... :|

Why?

It isnt self aware, isnt even fully developed, cant feel pain. Its just a clump of cells...

Really?

awesome source.... no really... :roll:

Glad you like it.

Now acknowledge it.

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#36 Silver_Dragon17
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When a girl is raped, they can adopt, people.:|
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#37 ArmoredAshes
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For those who try to use it as birth control yes its bad. But for reasons such as if the birth will endanger the mother's life the state has NO RIGHT to tell you that you must die for the child. that should be a choice between mother and doctor.
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#38 foxhound_fox
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When a girl is raped, they can adopt, people.:|Silver_Dragon17


And what if the girl is 10 years old and carrying the baby threatens her life?
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#39 ArmoredAshes
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Yes, women deserve the right. And people who say otherwise and try and kill the doctors who grant those wishes deserve horrible deaths.Skullheart

"ZOMG DOCTOR GIVING ABORTION KILL THEM CAUSE THEY'RE MURDERING TEH BABIEZZZ" thats almost as dumb as the one kid in my class that was anti abortion because its "murder" but he's hardcore supporter of war for no reason. yeah that makes alot of sense

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#40 Silver_Dragon17
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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]When a girl is raped, they can adopt, people.:|foxhound_fox


And what if the girl is 10 years old and carrying the baby threatens her life?

Girls can't have kids at ten.:|

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[QUOTE="Skullheart"]Yes, women deserve the right. And people who say otherwise and try and kill the doctors who grant those wishes deserve horrible deaths.ArmoredAshes

"ZOMG DOCTOR GIVING ABORTION KILL THEM CAUSE THEY'RE MURDERING TEH BABIEZZZ" thats almost as dumb as the one kid in my class that was anti abortion because its "murder" but he's hardcore supporter of war for no reason. yeah that makes alot of sense

Is that kid serious! :lol:

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#42 DragonTamer80
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]When a girl is raped, they can adopt, people.:|Silver_Dragon17



And what if the girl is 10 years old and carrying the baby threatens her life?

Girls can't have kids at ten.:|

Girls can start at 8 before they reach their first period even

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#43 Master_Sword91
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Sure.

And while we're at it, let's give rednecks the right to kill their civilised kids. After all, they didn't want it.:roll:

Silver_Dragon17


Don't stereotype rednecks not all of them live in mobile homes and sit around drinking beer all day.
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]When a girl is raped, they can adopt, people.:|Silver_Dragon17



And what if the girl is 10 years old and carrying the baby threatens her life?

Girls can't have kids at ten.:|

http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp

Actually, five year olds can... :|

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#45 Def_Jef88
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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

Sure.

And while we're at it, let's give rednecks the right to kill their civilised kids. After all, they didn't want it.:roll:

Master_Sword91


Don't stereotype rednecks not all of them live in mobile homes and sit around drinking beer all day.

Agreed, most of us are quite civilized people, and live in homes that are stuck in the ground. :D
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#46 foxhound_fox
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Girls can't have kids at ten.:|Silver_Dragon17


I was being conservative...

http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp
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#47 Anamosa41
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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

Sure.

And while we're at it, let's give rednecks the right to kill their civilised kids. After all, they didn't want it.:roll:

Def_Jef88

feuts =/= child... :|

Yes. . .it does.:|

no.. it doesent... :|

Guess what you and I were? A fetus.
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#48 Def_Jef88
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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]Girls can't have kids at ten.:|foxhound_fox


I was being conservative...

http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp

hey, j00 stole my link... >__>

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[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

Sure.

And while we're at it, let's give rednecks the right to kill their civilised kids. After all, they didn't want it.:roll:

Anamosa41

feuts =/= child... :|

Yes. . .it does.:|

no.. it doesent... :|

Guess what you and I were? A fetus.

And then I grew into a child.... :|
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hey, j00 stole my link... >__>Def_Jef88


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