Should women have the right to have an abortion?
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[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.chester706Adoption......... You fail.
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
Wow, you win for most ignorant. What about rape, accidents, etc... Jesus, thinking is wonderful, you should try it.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.chester706Adoption......... You fail.
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
*resounding agreement*
[QUOTE="camreeno360"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.mig_killer2Adoption......... You fail.
Yeah, but that brings up another thing. What good is a kid's life if he's just put up on adoption. They might as well be put to sleep the second they're born so there's nothing bad to deal with later on. ...ITS A HUMAN BEING:| Yep. And dont think it would be like Annie or Oliver Twist cause than you would be wrong. Like I said. There are ALOT and I mean ALOT of couples he want children but are for some reason unable to.
Adoption......... You fail.[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.DisturbedChild7
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
Wow, you win for most ignorant. What about rape, accidents, etc... Jesus, thinking is wonderful, you should try it.
so, why should a human being die for it?[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.mig_killer2Adoption......... You fail.
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
*resounding agreement*
Why do you people say this and then avoid answers for things that couldn't be prevented?
Adoption......... You fail.[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.DisturbedChild7
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
Wow, you win for most ignorant. What about rape, accidents, etc... Jesus, thinking is wonderful, you should try it.
I do think about that. Again adoption is the best way.Adoption......... You fail.[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.DisturbedChild7
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
*resounding agreement*
Why do you people say this and then avoid answers for things that couldn't be prevented?
I dont think someone should die because of a crime they did not commit[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]Adoption......... You fail.[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.mig_killer2
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
Wow, you win for most ignorant. What about rape, accidents, etc... Jesus, thinking is wonderful, you should try it.
so, why should a human being die for it?Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.chester706Adoption......... You fail.
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
Generally speaking, I find this attitude to be illogical and stemming from an intolerance of casual or even just non-marital sex. And then there's the whole debate of whether or not an 'unbord child' can indeed be considered a sentient being, a human being.
[QUOTE="camreeno360"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.mig_killer2Adoption......... You fail.
Yeah, but that brings up another thing. What good is a kid's life if he's just put up on adoption. They might as well be put to sleep the second they're born so there's nothing bad to deal with later on. ...ITS A HUMAN BEING:|It's not a human that can comprehend much thoughts and feelings yet, so people are looking at it pretty wrong.
[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]Adoption......... You fail.[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.DisturbedChild7
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
Wow, you win for most ignorant. What about rape, accidents, etc... Jesus, thinking is wonderful, you should try it.
so, why should a human being die for it?Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
but it will be a human being one day. why should someone lose a chance at life for an accident, or a crime they themselves did not commit?[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]Adoption......... You fail.[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.chester706
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
Wow, you win for most ignorant. What about rape, accidents, etc... Jesus, thinking is wonderful, you should try it.
I do think about that. Again adoption is the best way.Not for society, scientifically speaking.
[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="camreeno360"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.camreeno360Adoption......... You fail.
Yeah, but that brings up another thing. What good is a kid's life if he's just put up on adoption. They might as well be put to sleep the second they're born so there's nothing bad to deal with later on. ...ITS A HUMAN BEING:|It's not a human that can comprehend much thoughts and feelings yet, so people are looking at it pretty wrong. but it will be.
[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]Adoption......... You fail.[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.mig_killer2
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
Wow, you win for most ignorant. What about rape, accidents, etc... Jesus, thinking is wonderful, you should try it.
so, why should a human being die for it?Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
but it will be a human being one day. why should someone lose a chance at life for an accident, or a crime they themselves did not commit?What about mental problems, society is better off withotu rape babies.
[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]Adoption......... You fail.[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.DisturbedChild7
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
Wow, you win for most ignorant. What about rape, accidents, etc... Jesus, thinking is wonderful, you should try it.
I do think about that. Again adoption is the best way.Not for society, scientifically speaking.
okay, its kind of wierd, you're saying we adhere to social darwinism or something[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="camreeno360"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.camreeno360Adoption......... You fail.
Yeah, but that brings up another thing. What good is a kid's life if he's just put up on adoption. They might as well be put to sleep the second they're born so there's nothing bad to deal with later on. ...ITS A HUMAN BEING:|It's not a human that can comprehend much thoughts and feelings yet, so people are looking at it pretty wrong. Its still human life. No science can explain that except for that it starts at conception. Unless you would like to decipher the meaning of life for us.
[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]Adoption......... You fail.[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.DisturbedChild7
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
Wow, you win for most ignorant. What about rape, accidents, etc... Jesus, thinking is wonderful, you should try it.
so, why should a human being die for it?Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
but it will be a human being one day. why should someone lose a chance at life for an accident, or a crime they themselves did not commit?What about mental problems, society is better off withotu rape babies.
mmkay. lets examine your logic.what's more important. some woman who isn't going to be traumatized, or some person never getting a chance at life?
[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]Adoption......... You fail.[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.mig_killer2
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
Wow, you win for most ignorant. What about rape, accidents, etc... Jesus, thinking is wonderful, you should try it.
I do think about that. Again adoption is the best way.Not for society, scientifically speaking.
okay, its kind of wierd, you're saying we adhere to social darwinism or somethingOver population, andthe increased likelihood of a criminal. I'd prefer that baby just not be conceived.
[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]Adoption......... You fail.[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.DisturbedChild7
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
Wow, you win for most ignorant. What about rape, accidents, etc... Jesus, thinking is wonderful, you should try it.
I do think about that. Again adoption is the best way.Not for society, scientifically speaking.
okay, its kind of wierd, you're saying we adhere to social darwinism or somethingOver population, andthe increased likelihood of a criminal. I'd prefer that baby just not be conceived.
Im all for contraception, but im totally against abortion[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]Adoption......... You fail.[QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.mig_killer2
Pregnancy is really pleasant.
Thats the result of the woman's mistake. It was her choice. Baby shouldnt have to die for it.
Wow, you win for most ignorant. What about rape, accidents, etc... Jesus, thinking is wonderful, you should try it.
so, why should a human being die for it?Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
but it will be a human being one day. why should someone lose a chance at life for an accident, or a crime they themselves did not commit?What about mental problems, society is better off withotu rape babies.
mmkay. lets examine your logic.what's more important. some woman who isn't going to be traumatized, or some person never getting a chance at life?
The woman, if it doesn't get a chance at life it doesn't really matter. It matters to the point of what it could have done, but that's only could. It could also kill people because of genetics, who knows. I'd rather not take the risk.
I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
DisturbedChild7
[QUOTE="camreeno360"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="camreeno360"][QUOTE="chester706"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]Why the hell shouldn't it be allowed. If someone became pregnant by accident, why should they be forced to have to raised the kid and have it for life and all the stuff that goes along with that? It totally ruins people's lives if they can't get rid of the baby.mig_killer2Adoption......... You fail.
Yeah, but that brings up another thing. What good is a kid's life if he's just put up on adoption. They might as well be put to sleep the second they're born so there's nothing bad to deal with later on. ...ITS A HUMAN BEING:|It's not a human that can comprehend much thoughts and feelings yet, so people are looking at it pretty wrong. but it will be. But the fact is it's not. It doesn't matter if it will be because it's not yet. That's like stepping on an acorn and someone going "No, you can't do that because it's gonna be a huge tree". Get it? It's ridiculous.
Besides, the person's life isn't worth it if they're put up for adoption for a crappy life. That would be the best that would happen, they're most likely go to an orphanage and god knows what life that is...Sure worth saving, right...
[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
CptJSparrow
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
DisturbedChild7
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
That does not change the fact that they are alive.[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
CptJSparrow
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
That does not change the fact that they are alive.If someone's brain dead, they're legally dead. Babies are technically brain dead. This is why abortion is legal.
[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
DisturbedChild7
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
That does not change the fact that they are alive.If someone's brain dead, they're legally dead. Babies are technically brain dead. This is why abortion is legal.
brain dead? their brains are still developing.[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
mig_killer2
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
That does not change the fact that they are alive.If someone's brain dead, they're legally dead. Babies are technically brain dead. This is why abortion is legal.
brain dead? their brains are still developing.Which means it doesn't work :|
[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
DisturbedChild7
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
That does not change the fact that they are alive.If someone's brain dead, they're legally dead. Babies are technically brain dead. This is why abortion is legal.
brain dead? their brains are still developing.Which means it doesn't work :|
a brain dead person more than likely will never get off of life support. the fetus is getting off of life support in a few months[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
DisturbedChild7
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
That does not change the fact that they are alive.If someone's brain dead, they're legally dead. Babies are technically brain dead. This is why abortion is legal.
I wasn't speaking in terms of legality. Biologically, something is alive if it: moves respires responds to stimuli grows reproduces excretes and takes in nutrients.[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
mig_killer2
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
That does not change the fact that they are alive.If someone's brain dead, they're legally dead. Babies are technically brain dead. This is why abortion is legal.
brain dead? their brains are still developing.Which means it doesn't work :|
a brain dead person more than likely will never get off of life support. the fetus is getting off of life support in a few monthsBut it's dead when they abort it. No life lost, just a theoretical life.
[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
DisturbedChild7
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
That does not change the fact that they are alive.If someone's brain dead, they're legally dead. Babies are technically brain dead. This is why abortion is legal.
brain dead? their brains are still developing.Which means it doesn't work :|
a brain dead person more than likely will never get off of life support. the fetus is getting off of life support in a few monthsBut it's dead when they abort it. No life lost, just a theoretical life.
I believe that its a life.if you kill an unborn child, there will never be another human being like that...ever. its irreplaceable
[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
mig_killer2
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
That does not change the fact that they are alive.If someone's brain dead, they're legally dead. Babies are technically brain dead. This is why abortion is legal.
brain dead? their brains are still developing.Which means it doesn't work :|
a brain dead person more than likely will never get off of life support. the fetus is getting off of life support in a few monthsBut it's dead when they abort it. No life lost, just a theoretical life.
I believe that its a life.if you kill an unborn child, there will never be another human being like that...ever. its irreplaceable
It could still die naturally, there will never be another human being that way either. Does it really matter how it "dies"?
[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
DisturbedChild7
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
That does not change the fact that they are alive.If someone's brain dead, they're legally dead. Babies are technically brain dead. This is why abortion is legal.
brain dead? their brains are still developing.Which means it doesn't work :|
a brain dead person more than likely will never get off of life support. the fetus is getting off of life support in a few monthsBut it's dead when they abort it. No life lost, just a theoretical life.
I believe that its a life.if you kill an unborn child, there will never be another human being like that...ever. its irreplaceable
It could still die naturally, there will never be another human being that way either. Does it really matter how it "dies"?
It matters how it lives[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
mig_killer2
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
That does not change the fact that they are alive.If someone's brain dead, they're legally dead. Babies are technically brain dead. This is why abortion is legal.
brain dead? their brains are still developing.Which means it doesn't work :|
a brain dead person more than likely will never get off of life support. the fetus is getting off of life support in a few monthsBut it's dead when they abort it. No life lost, just a theoretical life.
I believe that its a life.if you kill an unborn child, there will never be another human being like that...ever. its irreplaceable
It could still die naturally, there will never be another human being that way either. Does it really matter how it "dies"?
It matters how it livesYou kind of proved my point, it's not legally living.[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
DisturbedChild7
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
That does not change the fact that they are alive.If someone's brain dead, they're legally dead. Babies are technically brain dead. This is why abortion is legal.
brain dead? their brains are still developing.Which means it doesn't work :|
a brain dead person more than likely will never get off of life support. the fetus is getting off of life support in a few monthsBut it's dead when they abort it. No life lost, just a theoretical life.
I believe that its a life.if you kill an unborn child, there will never be another human being like that...ever. its irreplaceable
It could still die naturally, there will never be another human being that way either. Does it really matter how it "dies"?
It matters how it livesYou kind of proved my point, it's not legally living. mabye by your standards, but by my standard, it is a living human being[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
mig_killer2
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
That does not change the fact that they are alive.If someone's brain dead, they're legally dead. Babies are technically brain dead. This is why abortion is legal.
brain dead? their brains are still developing.Which means it doesn't work :|
a brain dead person more than likely will never get off of life support. the fetus is getting off of life support in a few monthsBut it's dead when they abort it. No life lost, just a theoretical life.
I believe that its a life.if you kill an unborn child, there will never be another human being like that...ever. its irreplaceable
It could still die naturally, there will never be another human being that way either. Does it really matter how it "dies"?
It matters how it livesYou kind of proved my point, it's not legally living. mabye by your standards, but by my standard, it is a living human beingI like to point out, once again, I'm against abortion. I just happen to be open towards both sides of the discussion. You look at it in a science way, the law consistently proves that it does not care about science, just the law.
No, on partial birth abortions. I don't really think early pregnancy abortions are too bad though.guynamedbilly
I agree there, once it's brain developes the baby should be kept.
You know, actually I have to give the gamespot members credit because I thought the default "everyone is a Christian" post would have been posted a lot earlier than this.guynamedbilly
You mean the one directly above yours?
Yes, I am surprised at it's timing too...
Abortion is not only unthinkable, it is also the height of pagan barbarity.cukooAnd the Jews kept their enemies' virgin daughters as their concubines; killed the rest. Modern man could learn a lot about civility from the Jews.
Let's see what the Bible says about abortion. This is word for word from my Bible. Abortion is definitely wrong. It is the taking of a human life, for the Bible shows that life begins at conception. God fashions us while we are in our mother's womb (Ps. 139:13). The prophet Jeremiah and the apostle Paul were called by God before they were born (Jer. 1:5; Gal. 1:15). John the Baptist leaped in his mother's womb when the voice of Mary, the mother of the Lord, was heard (Luke 1:44). Obviously children in the womb have spiritual identity. From the moment of conception there is a progression of development that continues throughout adulthood. God condemned the Israelites who were offering their children as sacrifices to the heathen god Molech. Such children were burned up in the fires of sacrifice (Lev. 20:2), offered to a God of sensuality and convenience. The same is occuring today, and by acting in this way we are saying that human beings are not worth anything. This is a terrible blot on our society. The Bible is more specific on the matter of abortion because such a practice would have been unthinkable to the people of God. For instance, when Israel was in Egypt, a cruel Pharoah forced the Israelites to kill their newborn babies. In the Bible this was looked upon as the height of cruel oppression (Ex. 1:15-22). The idea of killing their own children would have been anathema to the Hebrews. All through the Old Testament, women yearned for children. Children were considered a gift from God. Women prayed not to be barren. How could a righteous woman turn against her own children to destroy them? Abortion is not only unthinkable, it is also the height of pagan barbarity.cukoo
Actually, the only passage in the Bible that could really be considered related to abortion has to do with a miscarriage.
And the Bible is not a science textbook.
Now this is a touchy subject.
It is technicaly murder in a way. Your killing something that isn't yet a proper human being, but your taking away its right to have a bash at life. They don't have any choice in this and thats the wrong part.
But on the flipped side of the coin we all make mistakes. And I think giving someone a baby that could potential ruin the ability at a successful life(dependant on what you view as a successful life) is to much punishment for the mistake, I mean that because that mistake would affect the baby as much or more than the parent, that baby could grow up into a family where it is seen as a mistake and shunned aside, or born into a life of poverty.
As for the people bringing religeon into this, I personaly don't think religeon can have a centre on the moral or political stage of the modern world. For a start the bible spouts about forgivness, so surely that forgivness would in a way be pro abortion?
[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]I'm fine with abortion, but it is definitely alive.Because it's brain doesn't work, therefore it's brain dead, meaning it's not alive. Plus they ar ementally predispositioned to be a rapist themself. See, I'm applying your science idea.
DisturbedChild7
It's alive because it's on life support, the umbilical cord. If that umbilical cord didn't exist, teh baby would be considered brain dead. It's like a coma patient, it can get better obviously, but you can pull teh plug and it will die.
The same thing goes for people who are on life support. They are alive though, are they not?Please Log In to post.
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