Since there is no god....

I'm just curious, since plenty of people here like to redicule belief in a god, what is the alternative?  If we exist for no purpose, and there is no afterlife to speak of, then why do we help each other.  Why shouldn't everyone just do all the most selfish things they can think of?  Out of money?  Just rob someone.  As long as you dont get caught, who cares?  There's no repercussion.  We should all be sleeping with whoever we can, getting annialated on whatever drugs we can get our hands on, stealing whatever we can get away with, and doing whatever the hell else we feel like doing.  I haven't figured out exactly what i believe yet, but i'll tell you this much.  There is no point in wasting your life doing "good" things for anyone but yourself if this life is all there is.  Its much to short to waste helping others if when we die, that's the end.  Some people might find that offensive, but they can all have waste lives not having fun, because i'll be having as much as i can if this is it.

Look at space and the brilliant lights. There is a greater being out there but not in the sense we can comprehend.

THere is something out there. Things just dont happen. The big bang theory is whack. no how.

I do good, because I am a good person, because I prefer to see people happy than sad, because I want people to do me good.-Karayan-

Well, sorry, but most people will never do that for you.  You can do all the good you want for others and most of it will be for naught.  You'd better start living for yourself and forget everyone else, or you'll waste this short life trying to make everyone else happy instead of yourself.

You think mother teresa saw many happy people in her life?  she was surrounded by suffering and desolation.  Her and those like her wasted their lives trying if there is no afterlife.  That is the reality of what life is if there is no God.

I do good, because I am a good person, because I prefer to see people happy than sad, because I want people to do me good.-Karayan-

Well, sorry, but most people will never do that for you.  You can do all the good you want for others and most of it will be for naught.  You'd better start living for yourself and forget everyone else, or you'll waste this short life trying to make everyone else happy instead of yourself.

You think mother teresa saw many happy people in her life?  she was surrounded by suffering and desolation.  Her and those like her wasted their lives trying if there is no afterlife.  That is the reality of what life is if there is no God.

sheridan891

[QUOTE="-Karayan-"]I do good, because I am a good person, because I prefer to see people happy than sad, because I want people to do me good.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"]I do good, because I am a good person, because I prefer to see people happy than sad, because I want people to do me good.-Karayan-

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"]I do good, because I am a good person, because I prefer to see people happy than sad, because I want people to do me good.-Karayan-

i dont care what you think is good.  You concept of good means nothing to me.  And if everyone human has it within themselves, then who put it there?  did we evolve that?  because i dont think that's possible.  i think you just make yourself feel better by doing think you think are good.  But just because you think its good doesn't really matter.  No one else really cares how you define good and evil. 

[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"]I do good, because I am a good person, because I prefer to see people happy than sad, because I want people to do me good.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"]I do good, because I am a good person, because I prefer to see people happy than sad, because I want people to do me good.sheridan891

i dont care what you think is good. You concept of good means nothing to me. And if everyone human has it within themselves, then who put it there? did we evolve that? because i dont think that's possible. i think you just make yourself feel better by doing think you think are good. But just because you think its good doesn't really matter. No one else really cares how you define good and evil.

I'm just curious, since plenty of people here like to redicule belief in a god, what is the alternative? If we exist for no purpose, and there is no afterlife to speak of, then why do we help each other. Why shouldn't everyone just do all the most selfish things they can think of? Out of money? Just rob someone. As long as you dont get caught, who cares? There's no repercussion. We should all be sleeping with whoever we can, getting annialated on whatever drugs we can get our hands on, stealing whatever we can get away with, and doing whatever the hell else we feel like doing. I haven't figured out exactly what i believe yet, but i'll tell you this much. There is no point in wasting your life doing "good" things for anyone but yourself if this life is all there is. Its much to short to waste helping others if when we die, that's the end. Some people might find that offensive, but they can all have waste lives not having fun, because i'll be having as much as i can if this is it.

sheridan891

Well, there are obviously laws.... When you take away religion, and you take human psychology and the variety of people in to account and you follow the laws (bar the ban on homosexuality and lolicon) , it is not that hard to be good.-Karayan-

the only reasont to follow the law is because there are punishments.  If i knew there was no God, i'd be breaking every law there was.  I'd be so high up on drugs for the rest of my life, because lets be honest, that is fun.  The law doesn't define good.  About 150 years ago the law said you could own a man based on the color of his skin.  Law has no morality.  Its just what a group of people decides is acceptable.  But again, why should i care what they think? 

[QUOTE="-Karayan-"]Well, there are obviously laws.... When you take away religion, and you take human psychology and the variety of people in to account and you follow the laws (bar the ban on homosexuality and lolicon) , it is not that hard to be good.sheridan891

the only reasont to follow the law is because there are punishments. If i knew there was no God, i'd be breaking every law there was. I'd be so high up on drugs for the rest of my life, because lets be honest, that is fun. The law doesn't define good. About 150 years ago the law said you could own a man based on the color of his skin. Law has no morality. Its just what a group of people decides is acceptable. But again, why should i care what they think?

[QUOTE="-Karayan-"]Well, there are obviously laws.... When you take away religion, and you take human psychology and the variety of people in to account and you follow the laws (bar the ban on homosexuality and lolicon) , it is not that hard to be good.sheridan891

the only reasont to follow the law is because there are punishments. If i knew there was no God, i'd be breaking every law there was. I'd be so high up on drugs for the rest of my life, because lets be honest, that is fun. The law doesn't define good. About 150 years ago the law said you could own a man based on the color of his skin. Law has no morality. Its just what a group of people decides is acceptable. But again, why should i care what they think?

[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"] Well, there are obviously laws.... When you take away religion, and you take human psychology and the variety of people in to account and you follow the laws (bar the ban on homosexuality and lolicon) , it is not that hard to be good.LJS9502_basic

Obviously not, of course it has existed, what is your point?-Karayan-

[QUOTE="sheridan891"]

I'm just curious, since plenty of people here like to redicule belief in a god, what is the alternative? If we exist for no purpose, and there is no afterlife to speak of, then why do we help each other. Why shouldn't everyone just do all the most selfish things they can think of? Out of money? Just rob someone. As long as you dont get caught, who cares? There's no repercussion. We should all be sleeping with whoever we can, getting annialated on whatever drugs we can get our hands on, stealing whatever we can get away with, and doing whatever the hell else we feel like doing. I haven't figured out exactly what i believe yet, but i'll tell you this much. There is no point in wasting your life doing "good" things for anyone but yourself if this life is all there is. Its much to short to waste helping others if when we die, that's the end. Some people might find that offensive, but they can all have waste lives not having fun, because i'll be having as much as i can if this is it.

hormagaunt

no, sorry, but the only reason to waste your time caring about others is because you want to improve their lives.  But at the same time, if there is no point to life, why should i care about that? 

And like i said, you cant get caught breaking the law, otherwise defeating the purpose because there are consequences.

not all drugs kill you.

i dunno about you, but i feel better when i'm having a good time.  and having a good time is eaiser when i'm not bothered by other peoples problems.  There are only two choices.  Either there is a point to helping people because life has a point, or there isn't.  If you like to help people, then do that.  But if you dont, then screw everyone else, right?  If you're right, and there is only one life, i can live it however i want.  you call me whatever you want, but you'll be dead and so will i and then it matter... right?

Common sense. Duh.Greatgone12

[QUOTE="hormagaunt"][QUOTE="sheridan891"]

I'm just curious, since plenty of people here like to redicule belief in a god, what is the alternative? If we exist for no purpose, and there is no afterlife to speak of, then why do we help each other. Why shouldn't everyone just do all the most selfish things they can think of? Out of money? Just rob someone. As long as you dont get caught, who cares? There's no repercussion. We should all be sleeping with whoever we can, getting annialated on whatever drugs we can get our hands on, stealing whatever we can get away with, and doing whatever the hell else we feel like doing. I haven't figured out exactly what i believe yet, but i'll tell you this much. There is no point in wasting your life doing "good" things for anyone but yourself if this life is all there is. Its much to short to waste helping others if when we die, that's the end. Some people might find that offensive, but they can all have waste lives not having fun, because i'll be having as much as i can if this is it.

sheridan891

no, sorry, but the only reason to waste your time caring about others is because you want to improve their lives. But at the same time, if there is no point to life, why should i care about that?

And like i said, you cant get caught breaking the law, otherwise defeating the purpose because there are consequences.

not all drugs kill you.

i dunno about you, but i feel better when i'm having a good time. and having a good time is eaiser when i'm not bothered by other peoples problems. There are only two choices. Either there is a point to helping people because life has a point, or there isn't. If you like to help people, then do that. But if you dont, then screw everyone else, right? If you're right, and there is only one life, i can live it however i want. you call me whatever you want, but you'll be dead and so will i and then it matter... right?

[QUOTE="sheridan891"]

[QUOTE="-Karayan-"]Well, there are obviously laws.... When you take away religion, and you take human psychology and the variety of people in to account and you follow the laws (bar the ban on homosexuality and lolicon) , it is not that hard to be good.hormagaunt

the only reasont to follow the law is because there are punishments. If i knew there was no God, i'd be breaking every law there was. I'd be so high up on drugs for the rest of my life, because lets be honest, that is fun. The law doesn't define good. About 150 years ago the law said you could own a man based on the color of his skin. Law has no morality. Its just what a group of people decides is acceptable. But again, why should i care what they think?

have the balls to what? do drugs? haha, it doesn't take balls to do drugs... girls do them to ya know.  and as for prison.  Yeah, i'll be avioding that, as it will interupt my stealing and drug use.... haha, if you haven't figured it out, i dont think people should do all this.  You're really missing the point.

[QUOTE="Greatgone12"]Common sense. Duh.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="sheridan891"][QUOTE="hormagaunt"][QUOTE="sheridan891"]

I'm just curious, since plenty of people here like to redicule belief in a god, what is the alternative? If we exist for no purpose, and there is no afterlife to speak of, then why do we help each other. Why shouldn't everyone just do all the most selfish things they can think of? Out of money? Just rob someone. As long as you dont get caught, who cares? There's no repercussion. We should all be sleeping with whoever we can, getting annialated on whatever drugs we can get our hands on, stealing whatever we can get away with, and doing whatever the hell else we feel like doing. I haven't figured out exactly what i believe yet, but i'll tell you this much. There is no point in wasting your life doing "good" things for anyone but yourself if this life is all there is. Its much to short to waste helping others if when we die, that's the end. Some people might find that offensive, but they can all have waste lives not having fun, because i'll be having as much as i can if this is it.

hormagaunt

no, sorry, but the only reason to waste your time caring about others is because you want to improve their lives. But at the same time, if there is no point to life, why should i care about that?

And like i said, you cant get caught breaking the law, otherwise defeating the purpose because there are consequences.

not all drugs kill you.

i dunno about you, but i feel better when i'm having a good time. and having a good time is eaiser when i'm not bothered by other peoples problems. There are only two choices. Either there is a point to helping people because life has a point, or there isn't. If you like to help people, then do that. But if you dont, then screw everyone else, right? If you're right, and there is only one life, i can live it however i want. you call me whatever you want, but you'll be dead and so will i and then it matter... right?

who the hell cares how you die, that's all there is.  You're dead, it doesn't matter how many people show up at your funeral.  You wont be there.  You're a dead man.  And you're missing the point.  forget the stealing and drugs.  Why shouldn't i butt in line everywhere.  Why shouldn't i cuss everyone out who wrongs me?  why shouldn't i sleep with someone elses wife?  all those things aren't illegal, but they also aren't nice.

[QUOTE="hormagaunt"][QUOTE="sheridan891"]

[QUOTE="-Karayan-"]Well, there are obviously laws.... When you take away religion, and you take human psychology and the variety of people in to account and you follow the laws (bar the ban on homosexuality and lolicon) , it is not that hard to be good.sheridan891

the only reasont to follow the law is because there are punishments. If i knew there was no God, i'd be breaking every law there was. I'd be so high up on drugs for the rest of my life, because lets be honest, that is fun. The law doesn't define good. About 150 years ago the law said you could own a man based on the color of his skin. Law has no morality. Its just what a group of people decides is acceptable. But again, why should i care what they think?

have the balls to what? do drugs? haha, it doesn't take balls to do drugs... girls do them to ya know. and as for prison. Yeah, i'll be avioding that, as it will interupt my stealing and drug use.... haha, if you haven't figured it out, i dont think people should do all this. You're really missing the point.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"]Common sense. Duh.Greatgone12

Simple. In the abscense of an omipotent deity, the law is the next best thing. Sure, it is an imperfect, limited creation, but it's the best we've got, and in most cases does the job. And humans can divine far more diabolical punishments than any Hell could invent...Sgt_Homonculus

the law only limits me to not doing dangerous things.  I can still do all sorts of "not nice" things.  and without a diety, i have no reason not to.

Simple. In the abscense of an omipotent deity, the law is the next best thing. Sure, it is an imperfect, limited creation, but it's the best we've got, and in most cases does the job. And humans can divine far more diabolical punishments than any Hell could invent...Sgt_Homonculus

[QUOTE="Greatgone12"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"]Common sense. Duh.LJS9502_basic

who dictates what common sense is?  In the middle east, millions of women are required to cover up almost their entired bodies in public.  That is common sense there.

[QUOTE="Sgt_Homonculus"]Simple. In the abscense of an omipotent deity, the law is the next best thing. Sure, it is an imperfect, limited creation, but it's the best we've got, and in most cases does the job. And humans can divine far more diabolical punishments than any Hell could invent...sheridan891

the law only limits me to not doing dangerous things. I can still do all sorts of "not nice" things. and without a diety, i have no reason not to.

who dictates what common sense is?  In the middle east, millions of women are required to cover up almost their entired bodies in public.  That is common sense there.

sheridan891

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"]Common sense. Duh.sheridan891

who dictates what common sense is?  In the middle east, millions of women are required to cover up almost their entired bodies in public.  That is common sense there.

[QUOTE="sheridan891"]

who dictates what common sense is?  In the middle east, millions of women are required to cover up almost their entired bodies in public.  That is common sense there.

LJS9502_basic

Alright, well 150 years ago, it was common sense in most of the western world that black people were meant to be slaves.  That was common sense. And a few thousands years ago its was common sense to cut off someone's hands when they stole something.  common sense changes.  just because YOU think something is common sense doesn't make it so for everyone.  Are you trying to say that YOU should be the moral guideline for all of humanity?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="sheridan891"]

who dictates what common sense is?  In the middle east, millions of women are required to cover up almost their entired bodies in public.  That is common sense there.

sheridan891

Alright, well 150 years ago, it was common sense in most of the western world that black people were meant to be slaves.  That was common sense. And a few thousands years ago its was common sense to cut off someone's hands when they stole something.  common sense changes.  just because YOU think something is common sense doesn't make it so for everyone.  Are you trying to say that YOU should be the moral guideline for all of humanity?