So now its more acceptable to be g@y than it is to be a christian?

[QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"]

....Is this like, three dudes f*cking instead of two?

Philokalia

Activists.

How does being an activist make one radical exactly?

[QUOTE="theone86"]

Uh, no, there have been anti-sodomy laws, some of which are still on the books albeit not enforced, and beatings and arrests of homosexuals by police officers in America's history.

FYI, you are a brain dead fundamentalist.

Philokalia

You seem confused by what you originally said, THat is you implied that simply being gay to some Christians is a sin in of itself. This is not the majority viewpoint on the matter. And thus you changed the attack to saying Christians have attacked the actions of homosexuals, that is the sexual actions which yes Christians condemn. But by the standard defintion of fundamentalist I am not. I do not accept those ideologies of those baptists in the 1900s that said we must believe in a literal creation account of genesis, I do not believe in sola scriptura, I do not believe in Sola Fide I do not believe in those doctrines.

Im not a fundamentalist.

Glad to know you that you support archaic laws that punish individuals for victimless acts performed within the privacy of their own homes. It's people like you that make me thankful our founding fathers had the foresight to keep religion out of government.

sooooo everyone who advocates the rights of homosexuals is a radical homosexual?

You're silly.

THE_DRUGGIE

No, but everyone who utterly jumps to that conclusion from a few vague words and thinks thats the others position. Now he is silly.

I don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle.

djshowstopper87

What does this even mean?

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

sooooo everyone who advocates the rights of homosexuals is a radical homosexual?

You're silly.

Philokalia

No, but everyone who utterly jumps to that conclusion from a few vague words and thinks thats the others position. Now he is silly.

Well maybe people should stop being vague so the silliness can be minimized.

Glad to know you that you support archaic laws that punish individuals for victimless acts performed within the privacy of their own homes. It's people like you that make me thankful our founding fathers had the foresight to keep religion out of government.

theone86

I do? Again your jumping to these conclusions from things I never say. But I dont expect you to do any different mind you.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Philokalia"]

Only the brain dead Fundamentalists. Please distinguish.

CycleOfViolence

Uh, no, there have been anti-sodomy laws, some of which are still on the books albeit not enforced, and beatings and arrests of homosexuals by police officers in America's history.

FYI, you are a brain dead fundamentalist.

Texas, Kansas, and Oklahoma still have their laws codified.

I could swear there was a local area that still haed a sodomy law on the books, Cincy I want to say. At any rate, there's very little enforcement of it as, even if someone blew the whislte on an act of sodomy, most police departments have the good sense to not arrest people for consensual acts of sex.

[QUOTE="djshowstopper87"]I don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle.

Pffrbt

What does this even mean?

He doesn't like rainbows.

[QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"]

....Is this like, three dudes f*cking instead of two?

Philokalia

Activists.

Oh, a snarl word. Well, I was thinking this would be something humorous. I'm disappointed.

Carry on.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Philokalia"]

No its more acceptable to be a radical homosexual to the left than to be a devout Christian. Most people I imagine, that is most people not being on gamespot would prefer devout Christians to radical gay activists.

Philokalia

Radical in that they want to force this issue on everyone regaurdless of the society that rejects it. Like suggesting Homosexuals ought boycott and force Chick Fil to shut down and not give money to whom it freely chooses instead of just not going there and supporting their brand if they are that against it. And by devout I seperate them from rabid fundamentalists.

[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

[QUOTE="theone86"]

Uh, no, there have been anti-sodomy laws, some of which are still on the books albeit not enforced, and beatings and arrests of homosexuals by police officers in America's history.

FYI, you are a brain dead fundamentalist.

theone86

Texas, Kansas, and Oklahoma still have their laws codified.

I could swear there was a local area that still haed a sodomy law on the books, Cincy I want to say. At any rate, there's very little enforcement of it as, even if someone blew the whislte on an act of sodomy, most police departments have the good sense to not arrest people for consensual acts of sex.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Philokalia"]

No its more acceptable to be a radical homosexual to the left than to be a devout Christian. Most people I imagine, that is most people not being on gamespot would prefer devout Christians to radical gay activists.

Philokalia

Radical in that they want to force this issue on everyone regaurdless of the society that rejects it. Like suggesting Homosexuals ought boycott and force Chick Fil to shut down and not give money to whom it freely chooses instead of just not going there and supporting their brand if they are that against it. And by devout I seperate them from rabid fundamentalists.

Wanting to be treated equally is not forcing your beliefs on the rest of society, thinking that the rest of society should adhere to your religious beliefs is forcing your beliefs on the rest of society. If gay marriage was legal those who oppose it could pontificate on the matter to their hearts' content and practice their religion however they please, there is absolutely no coercion going on whatsoever.

Well maybe people should stop being vague so the silliness can be minimized.

THE_DRUGGIE

Maybe silly people shouldnt jump to unwarrented conclusions/

[QUOTE="Pffrbt"]

[QUOTE="djshowstopper87"]I don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle.

CycleOfViolence

What does this even mean?

He doesn't like rainbows.

Dude, rainbows are awesome and have gold at the end of them with little Irish people who would probably kill you if you weren't Jennifer Aniston wait I think I know why some people hate rainbows.

Wanting to be treated equally is not forcing your beliefs on the rest of society, thinking that the rest of society should adhere to your religious beliefs is forcing your beliefs on the rest of society. If gay marriage was legal those who oppose it could pontificate on the matter to their hearts' content and practice their religion however they please, there is absolutely no coercion going on whatsoever.

theone86

Agian you have to misrepresent who Im talking about. Im not talking abou those who are civil and act in a orderly fashion when trying to get an idea they want to be legal from illegal. Thats not what IM saying. So instead of jumping the gun, enquire first. Do as God says and not open your mouth so that you might be condemned. But again I don't blame you.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Well maybe people should stop being vague so the silliness can be minimized.

Philokalia

Maybe silly people shouldnt jump to unwarrented conclusions/

It would only be possible if silly people didn't counter silliness with more silliness because they want to be silly and in a trunk or something.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

Texas, Kansas, and Oklahoma still have their laws codified.

-Sun_Tzu-

I could swear there was a local area that still haed a sodomy law on the books, Cincy I want to say. At any rate, there's very little enforcement of it as, even if someone blew the whislte on an act of sodomy, most police departments have the good sense to not arrest people for consensual acts of sex.

Droppin' precedent like it's going out of style.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="theone86"]

I could swear there was a local area that still haed a sodomy law on the books, Cincy I want to say. At any rate, there's very little enforcement of it as, even if someone blew the whislte on an act of sodomy, most police departments have the good sense to not arrest people for consensual acts of sex.

theone86

Droppin' precedent like it's going out of style.

I'm going to ask xaos what he considers to be radical homosexual acts.Jazz_Fan

[QUOTE="theone86"]

Wanting to be treated equally is not forcing your beliefs on the rest of society, thinking that the rest of society should adhere to your religious beliefs is forcing your beliefs on the rest of society. If gay marriage was legal those who oppose it could pontificate on the matter to their hearts' content and practice their religion however they please, there is absolutely no coercion going on whatsoever.

Philokalia

Agian you have to misrepresent who Im talking about. Im not talking abou those who are civil and act in a orderly fashion when trying to get an idea they want to be legal from illegal. Thats not what IM saying. So instead of jumping the gun, enquire first. Do as God says and not open your mouth so that you might be condemned. But again I don't blame you.

I never do as god says.

If a restaurant were donating money to a group tha wanted to shut down all religious institutions in America I wouldn't blame Christians for boycotting it. Calling homosexuals radicals for boycotting Chick-fil-A is, simply, bullsh*t. They disagree with their practices and they have every right to take action against them.

People who advocate for having their beliefs forced on the rest of the population do not deserve civility. They didn't deserve it when they were telling women they couldn't vote, they didn't deserve it when they were segregating the country, and they do't deserve it now. They deserve to shut up and deal with the fact that we aren't living in a theocracy.

[QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"]

....Is this like, three dudes f*cking instead of two?

Philokalia

Activists.

So anyone who actively or vigorously advocates for a cause, political or other, is a radical?

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"] I'm pointing out that most people who support gay marriage would oppose marriage if it was a brother and sister trying to get married. It seems to be a double standard. Also pointing out a fact that there have always been restrictions on what marriage is. It has always been the union of a man and a woman. This doesn't of course mean gays can't be equal in society. The fight they should be fighting is with the IRS instead of trying to change the long standing definition of what marriage is. ferrari2001

You still haven't given a reason as to why gay marriage shouldn't be allowed.

[QUOTE="SuperKaio-ken"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

This is just one of many signs of the end times. Soon, the Son of Man shall return.

msfan1289

hateful words from someone who hates, hate. :roll:

i think the greatest human weakness is, money and power.

Then the vatican is the weakest of all groups of humans

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Maybe it's just where you live. Most people I know couldn't care less if you're religious or not. kingkong0124

On that note: I do have to hide the fact I'm an atheist or else some people get really aggressive with me for no real reason.

Seriously, they should chill out.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] I live in Ct and that was crazy. I don't even want to begin to imagine what living in the Bible belt would be like. THE_DRUGGIE

On that note: I do have to hide the fact I'm an atheist or else some people get really aggressive with me for no real reason.

Seriously, they should chill out.

mhm

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] o wow, when I went there everybody was pretty tolerant. wis3boi

On that note: I do have to hide the fact I'm an atheist or else some people get really aggressive with me for no real reason.

Seriously, they should chill out.

mhm

I remember there was this one time where I was in a group project for college a couple years ago and we went around talking about ourselves, which included saying what religious beliefs we had for some reason. The guy to my left said he was Christian, then I said I was atheist and he kept glaring at me the rest of the time.

Creeped me out.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

On that note: I do have to hide the fact I'm an atheist or else some people get really aggressive with me for no real reason.

Seriously, they should chill out.

THE_DRUGGIE

mhm

I remember there was this one time where I was in a group project for college a couple years ago and we went around talking about ourselves, which included saying what religious beliefs we had for some reason. The guy to my left said he was Christian, then I said I was atheist and he kept glaring at me the rest of the time.

Creeped me out.

:lol:

I had to do the same in a philosophy course, no one cared what each other believed, but I find more adults that get upset at the non-religious than the younger generations. I'm 21, and just about everyone I know my age is non-religious or atheist and everyone is very tolerant.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

mhm

wis3boi

I remember there was this one time where I was in a group project for college a couple years ago and we went around talking about ourselves, which included saying what religious beliefs we had for some reason. The guy to my left said he was Christian, then I said I was atheist and he kept glaring at me the rest of the time.

Creeped me out.

:lol:

I had to do the same in a philosophy course, no one cared what each other believed, but I find more adults that get upset at the non-religious than the younger generations. I'm 21, and just about everyone I know my age is non-religious or atheist and everyone is very tolerant.

I'm 22 and 75% of religious people my age really need a chill pill when they enounter someone they find out is non-religious.

BUT, I do like bumming around the ecumenical center (religious building on campus) because it's empty a lot and is really quiet/nicely designed.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="theone86"]

I could swear there was a local area that still haed a sodomy law on the books, Cincy I want to say. At any rate, there's very little enforcement of it as, even if someone blew the whislte on an act of sodomy, most police departments have the good sense to not arrest people for consensual acts of sex.

theone86

Droppin' precedent like it's going out of style.

No, but it's more acceptable to be gay than to be a douchebag. Thankfully...kuraimen

Love this. I just can't find any reason to sympathize with the "Christian" arguement here... Your beliefs are limiting others, ours are encouraging.... How are you in the right and proper? Im sorry. Take your bible back home to the belt. No sympathy from me, get out.

Gay people don't necessarily believe in rediculous fairy tales.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

I remember there was this one time where I was in a group project for college a couple years ago and we went around talking about ourselves, which included saying what religious beliefs we had for some reason. The guy to my left said he was Christian, then I said I was atheist and he kept glaring at me the rest of the time.

Creeped me out.

THE_DRUGGIE

:lol:

I had to do the same in a philosophy course, no one cared what each other believed, but I find more adults that get upset at the non-religious than the younger generations. I'm 21, and just about everyone I know my age is non-religious or atheist and everyone is very tolerant.

I'm 22 and 75% of religious people my age really need a chill pill when they enounter someone they find out is non-religious.

BUT, I do like bumming around the ecumenical center (religious building on campus) because it's empty a lot and is really quiet/nicely designed.

I do support gaysshadowchronicle

Not if you give Chick-Fil-A money.

Some things in th bible are mean't to be taken literally but the bible is the word of God and if you consider yourself a christian then you shold be familar with it. But one thing that bible states clear as day man should not lay with man. God loves everyone (even non christians and people who mock him) but he does not condone sin and homosexuality is considered a sin. But calling the bible out of date, not be a long shot, most the the thing the bible talks about still happens today just in different forms.

djshowstopper87

yes the bible is out of date.

that said it made much more sense in a small village setting were marriage and the children it brings meant the difference between life or death for the village . in that kind situation it makes allot more sense to make homosexuality an extreme taboo as it put the whole community at a disadvantage i.e two males who would never have children which to a small tribal community means a decimating blow to the work force.

on a whole, the bible makes a whole lot of sense when applied to small and primitive agrarian tribal communities, modern life not so much.

Only more acceptable when the Christian doesn't understand the importance of this life and to prepare for the next life in this life is illogical because no one knows if there is even an after life.

Unless you are a fairy tale kind of guy. Believe your fairy tales and be happy. But don't tell us how much better your fairy tale is than the rest of our menial lives. Stop trying to make everything more significant than it really is.

Your God has no grand plan, but an equilibrium which is unpredictable in what will happen, but predictable in that it will always return to "normal". No matter what.

[QUOTE="shadowchronicle"]I do support gaysPffrbt

Not if you give Chick-Fil-A money.

[QUOTE="Pffrbt"]

[QUOTE="shadowchronicle"]I do support gaysshadowchronicle

Not if you give Chick-Fil-A money.

Equal rights would be nice too.

Oh yeah, poor Christians... when you are Christian you can't get a job, you can't get married, you can't go to your church. When you are walking down the street people stare and point and whisper, "Look! That guy's a Christian!" Poor Christians.

[QUOTE="shadowchronicle"][QUOTE="Pffrbt"]

Not if you give Chick-Fil-A money.

Pffrbt

Equal rights would be nice too.

Agreed. The only thing preventing homosexuals getting equal rights is these anti-gay oraganisations. So getting rid of them or weakening them is the only way to get equal rights.

Fortunatly the pro-equality side is getting more support and the anti-gays are getting less and less.

Mr. Cathy has the right to say whatever he wants, but in the era of Youtube and cell-phones, he should understand the consequences of spouting beliefs that people may take exception to. No doubt there are thousands, if not millions of gay people who eat at Chik-Fil-A, and the news will get around to them.

A person would run the same risk of alienating consumers by putting a simple political sign on the window of the store. I do think this is being made into a much larger issue that it needs to be, because everyone wants a bit of attention. People who are upset should simply stop going to the restaurant. There are a lot of other stores where you can get over-priced mediocre food.

[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]

Case in point trolls pop up:lol:

l4dak47

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]

Case in point trolls pop up:lol:

noscope-ak47

No he is right you are considered an idiot. Posting fake pics of your 'Gun Room' lol was just the icing on the cake.

[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] I have some bad news, dude. When several longtime members are calling you an idiot, it's because you are one. Not because they're trolling. tenaka2

No he is right you are considered an idiot. Posting fake pics of your 'Gun Room' lol was just the icing on the cake.

How many times does he have to say that he hates drama? :P

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]

Case in point trolls pop up:lol:

noscope-ak47