So, someone from my church died....

I wasn't really that close to him, but indeed it is sad. But the point to this thread is about this:

Everyone in my church of course, prior to this, were all "praying" for this person and his family. That he'll make it through (his brain tumor sugery). Now that he'd gone, everyone is going to be like "it was gods decision" and all that. Everyone is going to be super sad, but still come to a rationalize that it was gods decision. Which is BS, because its something called LIFE. Anywho, there's also going to be that fraction of people that go "why did you take him from us god? We were all praying for him!". Recently I became agnostic, and came to a conclusion that there is no god.

But there is this tiny bit in me that feels guilty for not praying for him....

Rip Howard M.

Nice blog post.A1B2C3CAL

There is a beginning and an end to everything. Maybe it was just his time to go. There is sickness someone will live with, then there is death which brings and end to the suffering. I'm sure everyone will be aware that he is in God's hands now. So everything will be alright.

My uncle died last week, but the different thing is that we have confort in our heart and believe that God has him. So everything is ok.

[QUOTE="A1B2C3CAL"]Nice blog post.lonewolf604

It was clearly God's decision :| I mean what else could it be :roll: You always find people who try too hard.Epak_

So according to your logic: people dying = no god hmm................freham2001

[QUOTE="freham2001"]So according to your logic: people dying = no god hmm................lonewolf604

Are you sure they didn't pray for him to die? Some people are cruel. Unless they were praying to the wrong god.

[QUOTE="sAndroid17"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"] I'd barely get any view in my blog, I'd get more responses here. Plus, this is something that should be shared.Gamer4Iife

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="freham2001"]So according to your logic: people dying = no god hmm................Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"] they prayed for him, and all, and he still diedlonewolf604

[QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"][QUOTE="sAndroid17"] No, it should be a Blog post!sAndroid17

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] god doesnt answer everyone who praises to win the lottery. Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="freham2001"]So according to your logic: people dying = no god hmm................lonewolf604

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"] because by that logic, they want money for their own greed, not for the grace of god, which is what prayer is about, it has to somehow have an outcome that will serve god somehowlonewolf604

[QUOTE="sAndroid17"][QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"] Geez. You guys are jerks. >_>lonewolf604

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="freham2001"]So according to your logic: people dying = no god hmm................freham2001

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="sAndroid17"]hahah, how?? because we think something that "should" be a blog post, isnt?? and they made it a forum post. because it would get "no views" so its all for "views" wich is lame. or the fact we dont care about some random person, in some random country. at some random church. died:|?sAndroid17

[QUOTE="freham2001"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"] they prayed for him, and all, and he still diedlonewolf604

God doesn't have a plan for the person. It's biology, it's life. What led to the tumor came from a perfectly explainable abnormality, then the tumor led to cancer, which eventually led to his death because the treatement in his case was not sufficient to save his life. That's why he died. Not because of the lack of prayer or because it was God's plan. He died because of reason as do most other people. God isn't a ****ing explenation.

[QUOTE="sAndroid17"]hahah, how?? because we think something that "should" be a blog post, isnt?? and they made it a forum post. because it would get "no views" so its all for "views" wich is lame. or the fact we dont care about some random person, in some random country. at some random church. died:|?Gamer4Iife

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="freham2001"] Honestly just because you pray for someone to live or keep living doesnt mean its going to happen. God hears us, definitely. But what we think is best and what God knows is best are at times completely different. Believe me when i say that God has a plan behind that person dying. You may not see the effects of it immediately, or ever, but you have to trust that its there. For example, take a sheet of paper and poke a small hole in it. Hold it at arms length and look through the hole. What can you see? Not much at all; just a tiny speck. That represents how much of the world we see. Now hold the hole straight up to your eye and look through; you can see a much much wider view of everything. That represents what God sees. Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="freham2001"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"] they prayed for him, and all, and he still diedlonewolf604

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="freham2001"] Honestly just because you pray for someone to live or keep living doesnt mean its going to happen. God hears us, definitely. But what we think is best and what God knows is best are at times completely different. Believe me when i say that God has a plan behind that person dying. You may not see the effects of it immediately, or ever, but you have to trust that its there. For example, take a sheet of paper and poke a small hole in it. Hold it at arms length and look through the hole. What can you see? Not much at all; just a tiny speck. That represents how much of the world we see. Now hold the hole straight up to your eye and look through; you can see a much much wider view of everything. That represents what God sees. freham2001

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] your missing the point againGamer4Iife

Because God is just that freaking awesome! :o

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] your missing the point againGamer4Iife

Because God is just that freaking awesome! :oDJ-Lafleur

[QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] your missing the point againTjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="freham2001"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"] oh i see, so god ignored their prayers and decided he's going to die instead? enough of that plan nonsense toolonewolf604

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] your missing the point againlonewolf604

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="freham2001"] No, you're missing it. What many people dont understand is that God is not always looking out to make us happy. People are led to believe "if i become a christian, everyone in my life will be ok forever and i will make lots of money and never have any health issues." And when something bad happens people curse God for not bending to their every whim, when in reality he never promises that bad things wont happen. If you want the truth, being a christian sometimes brings harder times than a normal person might face, because we are of God and the enemy (satan) is looking to destroy us, so he throws things in our life to try and stray us from God. (lust, killing, cheating, disbelief, etc.) All those things can bring questioning into someones walk with God which can be a great stumbling block to your relationship with God. Now im not saying God doesnt care about us; he does. As it says in the bible, he has a plan not to harm us but to prosper us. However, there is a great truth which is not taught in many churches today because people dont like it: God is looking out for #1, himself. Everything that happens and everything he plans is to ultimately bring glory to himself. Its a hard concept to understand, but its true. He loves us and wants us to be with him in eternity, but he wants us and every creature to praise his name. freham2001

[QUOTE="Epak_"]It was clearly God's decision :| I mean what else could it be :roll: You always find people who try too hard.lonewolf604

Of course they do :| It's their religion.

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="Epak_"]It was clearly God's decision :| I mean what else could it be :roll: You always find people who try too hard.123625

Of course they do :| It's their religion.

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[QUOTE="lonewolf604"] Yeah I know, sometimes I wanna slap some sense into these people, but they take christianity seriously.lonewolf604

Of course they do :| It's their religion.

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