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SAN ANTONIO; A group of atheists at the University of Texas at San Antonio is putting a novel twist on the toys-for-guns programs run by many urban police departments. But instead of toys, they are handing out porn in exchange for bibles.

"We consider the bible to be a very negative force in the history of the world," student Ryan Walker said. Walker is part of a student group that calls itself the Atheist Agenda.

Club members this week posted fliers promoting what they call the "Smut for Smut" campaign, then set up a table in the student union to collect religious materials and pass out adult magazines such as Black Label and Playboy.

The group is not officially sanctioned by the university and has raised the ire of several religious organizations on campus.

"In my opinion, there are no atheists. There are fools," Pastor Rick Hawkins of UTSA's Family Praise Center said. "So, that would be foolish propaganda. I don't know one believer that would take his Bible and turn it in for pornography."

Hawkins obviously didn't stop by the Atheist Agenda table, where several students had dropped off copies of the good book and walked away with skin mags.

Atheist Agenda isn't the first student group to explore the idea of introducing porn to former bible-toters. Members say they got the idea from students in Austin who ran a similar pro-porn drive.

Walker added that members thought it sounded like a creative way to exercise their freedom of speech.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/11518

I find this amusing... I'd stop by the table too.:twisted:

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I can understand no bibles....but porn for them? Cmon..
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I can understand no bibles....but porn for them? Cmon..--Wolf--

It's perfect. Trading in your bible, for something the church preaches against. Perfect. A++

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I would go get a free bible from the local christian youth group and get me some porn :P :|
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Porn's not hard to find......what's with the kids of today?

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Sounds completely absurd to me
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I would steal a bible, then get me some porn. Double dark side points. :P
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Great... thats constructive how?
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Pastor Rick Hawkins of UTSA's Family Praise Center said. "So, that would be foolish propaganda. I don't know one believer that would take his Bible and turn it in for pornography." Panzer-schreck

I Bet I Could Name A Few

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That's awesome!
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Great... thats constructive how?Samwel_X

It's a great way to piss of bible thumpers. It's a great way to stick it to the church. And hey...it's free (kinda) porn.

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[QUOTE="steppinrazor88"]I would go get a free bible from the local christian youth group and get me some porn :P :|LJS9502_basic

Porn's not hard to find......what's with the kids of today?

It has more to do with making a statement.

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[QUOTE="Samwel_X"]Great... thats constructive how?Panzer-schreck

It's a great way to piss of bible thumpers. It's a great way to stick it to the church. And hey...it's free (kinda) porn.

I am a christan all there doing is taking bibles from people who would have never read them obviously if they would trade them for a prono magazine

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="steppinrazor88"]I would go get a free bible from the local christian youth group and get me some porn :P :|Panzer-schreck

Porn's not hard to find......what's with the kids of today?

It has more to do with making a statement.

I dont see it as a statement really any one could do it with any material

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[QUOTE="Samwel_X"]Great... thats constructive how?Panzer-schreck

It's a great way to piss of bible thumpers. It's a great way to stick it to the church. And hey...it's free (kinda) porn.

I'd say the majority of churches really won't care. They're just think they're bothering churches.;)

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Doesn't matter what they're trying to prove, it's wrong.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Porn's not hard to find......what's with the kids of today?

Panzer-schreck

It has more to do with making a statement.

The statement being...kids don't know how to get porn....because that's what it says to me.

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Doesn't matter what they're trying to prove, it's wrong.--Wolf--

But it's their constitutional right. :P

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[QUOTE="--Wolf--"]Doesn't matter what they're trying to prove, it's wrong.Panzer-schreck

But it's their constitutional right. :P

Until a minor gets their hands on porn....

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[QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Porn's not hard to find......what's with the kids of today?

LJS9502_basic

It has more to do with making a statement.

The statement being...kids don't know how to get porn....because that's what it says to me.

1) People are no longer kids when they are in college.

2) Maybe they know how to get porn but would rather get it for semi-free. Magazines nowadays are around 7 bucks!

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I wonder if they are checking for IDs?
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I wonder if they are checking for IDs?rimnet00

My guess....no.

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1) People are no longer kids when they are in college.

2) Maybe they know how to get porn but would rather get it for semi-free. Magazines nowadays are around 7 bucks!

Panzer-schreck

1. If you don't know how to get porn...you're a kid.

2. College...computer...internet. Enough said.

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LJS, you aren't making any point at all. It's not as though these people can't get ahold of porn in other ways, nobody is suggesting that apart from you. The point here is clearly to get some free pron while also irritating Christians. Win win situation.
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LJS, you aren't making any point at all. It's not as though these people can't get ahold of porn in other ways, nobody is suggesting that apart from you. The point here is clearly to get some free pron while also irritating Christians. Win win situation.Chevolutionary
I'd do anything for love. I'd do even more for porn.
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LJS, you aren't making any point at all. It's not as though these people can't get ahold of porn in other ways, nobody is suggesting that apart from you. The point here is clearly to get some free pron while also irritating Christians. Win win situation.Chevolutionary

I already stated that it actually doesn't irritate Christians....perhaps a small minority...but overall...Nope.

Second...I'll wager the majority of people turning in bibles are picking one up to get the porn...not doing it for the reasons stated...therefore, it is about the porn and not the statement.:roll:

I could set up a table and give porn away for a dictionary....and I know I'd get dictionaries dude.

Plus, it has to be costly to give away the porn. So in the end, they lose. Though they have increased bible sales.;)

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[QUOTE="Chevolutionary"]LJS, you aren't making any point at all. It's not as though these people can't get ahold of porn in other ways, nobody is suggesting that apart from you. The point here is clearly to get some free pron while also irritating Christians. Win win situation.Greatgone12
I'd do anything for love. I'd do even more for porn.

Computer....internet....porn.

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I wonder if they would accept those pocket book bibles I've got like 30 of them
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Porn's not hard to find......what's with the kids of today?

LJS9502_basic
They lack the Google skills
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Thats really stupid of them, they are fools.
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hehe.. porn for a bible... are they gonna get in trouble with their principle or w/e it is in america?
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Though they have increased bible sales.;)

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uhm if its an exchange, the amount of porn sales (from the athiests buying the porn) would equal the amount of bible sales (from people buying bibles to exchange for porn).
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Though they have increased bible sales.;)

Whicker89

uhm if its an exchange, the amount of porn sales (from the athiests buying the porn) would equal the amount of bible sales (from people buying bibles to exchange for porn).

One....the porn has to be purchased...unless it's illegal downloads and that's another story...and they would get busted doing that since they are so open. So assume they bought porn to give away.

The students don't all have bibles. In fact, I'd say those that would turn them in for porn have to first procure one. Therefore, they go to the bookstore to purchase one.

What is an even exchange about this? The atheists are out the cost of porn. They don't recoup that...they lose money.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Though they have increased bible sales.;)

Whicker89

uhm if its an exchange, the amount of porn sales (from the athiests buying the porn) would equal the amount of bible sales (from people buying bibles to exchange for porn).

I didn't even know you could buy bibles :P They're so easy to get for free

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I didn't even know you could buy bibles :P They're so easy to get for free

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I've never seen a bible for free....if you're talking about theft...that can cost you more than the cost of the bible and the porn combined.

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[QUOTE="steppinrazor88"]

I didn't even know you could buy bibles :P They're so easy to get for free

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I've never seen a bible for free....if you're talking about theft...that can cost you more than the cost of the bible and the porn combined.

Church of latter day saint give them away for free I'm pretty sure
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[QUOTE="steppinrazor88"]

I didn't even know you could buy bibles :P They're so easy to get for free

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I've never seen a bible for free....if you're talking about theft...that can cost you more than the cost of the bible and the porn combined.

You've never been handed a bible? They give them out all the time around here :?

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[QUOTE="Whicker89"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Though they have increased bible sales.;)

LJS9502_basic

uhm if its an exchange, the amount of porn sales (from the athiests buying the porn) would equal the amount of bible sales (from people buying bibles to exchange for porn).

One....the porn has to be purchased...unless it's illegal downloads and that's another story...and they would get busted doing that since they are so open. So assume they bought porn to give away.

The students don't all have bibles. In fact, I'd say those that would turn them in for porn have to first procure one. Therefore, they go to the bookstore to purchase one.

What is an even exchange about this? The atheists are out the cost of porn. They don't recoup that...they lose money.

I doubt that the porn mags were new. They were probably all donated. And I doubt that most of the bibles were new. Almost everyone has an old bible lying around somewhere...even I do...and I come from an atheist household. Also, as previously stated, many people would get a free bible from a church before buying one from a bookstore.

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[QUOTE="Whicker89"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Though they have increased bible sales.;)

LJS9502_basic

uhm if its an exchange, the amount of porn sales (from the athiests buying the porn) would equal the amount of bible sales (from people buying bibles to exchange for porn).

One....the porn has to be purchased...unless it's illegal downloads and that's another story...and they would get busted doing that since they are so open. So assume they bought porn to give away.

The students don't all have bibles. In fact, I'd say those that would turn them in for porn have to first procure one. Therefore, they go to the bookstore to purchase one.

What is an even exchange about this? The atheists are out the cost of porn. They don't recoup that...they lose money.

You missed the point its a shame
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Church of latter day saint give them away for free I'm pretty sure
Whicker89

I'm going to guess if that is true....you have to invest some time listening to them talk about their church. I don't think they'd just hand you one if you walked in and asked. So it would be payment of sorts....

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I already stated that it actually doesn't irritate Christians....perhaps a small minority...but overall...Nope.LJS9502_basic

People in this topic seem to be getting irritated. By making statements on false assumptions for example.

Second...I'll wager the majority of people turning in bibles are picking one up to get the porn...not doing it for the reasons stated...therefore, it is about the porn and not the statement.:roll:LJS9502_basic

People generally have Bibles, I got given one in school, I'd trade it in for any old junk. I highly doubt anybody is going to run out and buy a Bible so they can go and trade it in for a magazine. And of course it's about the statement, as you've said, it isn't hard to get porn, it's about trading in something highly regarded for something generally frowned upon (at least in public) and making them of equal value.

And to finish I too can eye roll to make me look superior. :roll:
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People generally have Bibles, I got given one in school, I'd trade it in for any old junk. I highly doubt anybody is going to run out and buy a Bible so they can go and trade it in for a magazine. And of course it's about the statement, as you've said, it isn't hard to get porn, it's about trading in something highly regarded for something generally frowned upon (at least in public) and making them of equal value.
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Precisely my point. Thank you.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I already stated that it actually doesn't irritate Christians....perhaps a small minority...but overall...Nope.Chevolutionary

People in this topic seem to be getting irritated. By making statements on false assumptions for example.

Second...I'll wager the majority of people turning in bibles are picking one up to get the porn...not doing it for the reasons stated...therefore, it is about the porn and not the statement.:roll:LJS9502_basic

People generally have Bibles, I got given one in school, I'd trade it in for any old junk. I highly doubt anybody is going to run out and buy a Bible so they can go and trade it in for a magazine. And of course it's about the statement, as you've said, it isn't hard to get porn, it's about trading in something highly regarded for something generally frowned upon (at least in public) and making them of equal value.

And to finish I too can eye roll to make me look superior. :roll:

If you're implying I'm irriated...you'd be wrong...again. Those who would give away a bible don't use it...and if they are away at college....like most people...didn't take one.

And to finish...that doesn't make you look superior.;)

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[QUOTE="Whicker89"]Church of latter day saint give them away for free I'm pretty sure
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I'm going to guess if that is true....you have to invest some time listening to them talk about their church. I don't think they'd just hand you one if you walked in and asked. So it would be payment of sorts....

Maybe they all just reject you :|
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[QUOTE="Chevolutionary"]

People generally have Bibles, I got given one in school, I'd trade it in for any old junk. I highly doubt anybody is going to run out and buy a Bible so they can go and trade it in for a magazine. And of course it's about the statement, as you've said, it isn't hard to get porn, it's about trading in something highly regarded for something generally frowned upon (at least in public) and making them of equal value.
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Precisely my point. Thank you.

Ah...but my point is that if you would turn in a bible for porn...it means nothing to you. Therefore, you wouldn't take one away with you to college. If you took one with you...to college...it would mean something to you....and therefore, you wouldn't turn it in but would get your porn another way.

You don't see the difference in the two types of people?

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Whicker89"]Church of latter day saint give them away for free I'm pretty sure
Whicker89

I'm going to guess if that is true....you have to invest some time listening to them talk about their church. I don't think they'd just hand you one if you walked in and asked. So it would be payment of sorts....

Maybe they all just reject you :|

Nah...they tried to talk to me a few times in the street. I politely said no thanks....:D

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[QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"]

[QUOTE="Chevolutionary"]

People generally have Bibles, I got given one in school, I'd trade it in for any old junk. I highly doubt anybody is going to run out and buy a Bible so they can go and trade it in for a magazine. And of course it's about the statement, as you've said, it isn't hard to get porn, it's about trading in something highly regarded for something generally frowned upon (at least in public) and making them of equal value.
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Precisely my point. Thank you.

Ah...but my point is that if you would turn in a bible for porn...it means nothing to you. Therefore, you wouldn't take one away with you to college. If you took one with you...to college...it would mean something to you....and therefore, you wouldn't turn it in but would get your porn another way.

You don't see the difference in the two types of people?


I'm taking the Bible with me this fall when I leave for college. That way, I can whip it out whenever I want and quote leviticus (if I'm accosted by a religious converter). I don't even need to argue my points, it looks absurd without even arguing - the text from leviticus, that is.

But then again, I would be willing in a heart beat to trade the bible for a porn mag. I can always get another bible for free, or I could always just use the internet for my bible. Use google and stuff.

For me, it's about the statement.

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#49 LJS9502_basic  Online
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I'm taking the Bible with me this fall when I leave for college. That way, I can whip it out whenever I want and quote leviticus (if I'm accosted by a religious converter). I don't even need to argue my points, it looks absurd without even arguing - the text from leviticus, that is.

But then again, I would be willing in a heart beat to trade the bible for a porn mag. I can always get another bible for free, or I could always just use the internet for my bible. Use google and stuff.

For me, it's about the statement.

Panzer-schreck

Other than a few door to door Jehovah Witnessess....who don't come to my house...they don't know the easy way to get there...and a few Mormons on the street...that won't persist if you say no....I don't know of any religious converters. I think that is a huge exaggeration. I don't know that you'd need to defend yourself from them...nor do I know what in Leviticus you cherish. Most religious people just want to live their own life and be left alone....like anyone else.

You have a computer and an internet....what use is a magazine?

It may be a statement to you....but I don't think I'm wrong in guessing it's about the porn for the majority of the people. That may be important to the creators of said idea...but not to most of the customers...as it were.

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#50 mestizoman
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[QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Porn's not hard to find......what's with the kids of today?

LJS9502_basic

It has more to do with making a statement.

The statement being...kids don't know how to get porn....because that's what it says to me.

:P

have you ever considered kids might find it interesting for the "thrill" of it?

besides theres articles in it as well!