The Devil Is Here, Boy. Says Convicter Killer. Child Rapist/Torturer On Trial

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#101 tzar3
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[QUOTE="tzar3"]Electric Chair.Eddie5vs1

The electric chair is too nice for this piece of ****.

Its just if you ask me, his brain along with his entire body will pop and boil till he is dead. Torture is fine though but discussing about how to kill him will only make us the monster, we dont wanna be like him. Thats why the chair is fine by me.

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#102 foxhound_fox
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No point in us sinking to his level. Lock him in a cage with basic sustenance for the rest of his life to suffer at the hands of his conscience. Everyone has one, even people like this guy, they just don't want anyone to know about it.
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#103 DOS4dinner
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[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"]

[QUOTE="tzar3"]Electric Chair.tzar3

The electric chair is too nice for this piece of ****.

Its just if you ask me, his brain along with his entire body will pop and boil till he is dead. Torture is fine though but discussing about how to kill him will only make us the monster, we dont wanna be like him. Thats why the chair is fine by me.

Agreed. However, I like the point blank sniper rifle shot. Just kills him instantly; know pain, no nothing. Just dead human scumbag.

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#104 The_Ish
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No point in us sinking to his level. Lock him in a cage with basic sustenance for the rest of his life to suffer at the hands of his conscience. Everyone has one, even people like this guy, they just don't want anyone to know about it.foxhound_fox

People like him don't have the same brain waves as others, according to studies. They respond very differently from other people.

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#106 DeadMann420
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]Maniac...But I still don't agree on the death penalty. I see it as nothing more other than governmental murder.legend26

BS, you would rather your tax dollors being spend feeding this maniac in jail, no, death penalty all the way, people like him surve no purpose on this earth and dont deserve to breath this air, and dont give me none of that "two wrongs dont make a right" this guy kidnapped, raped, beat, and killed a little boy, and you say "dont give him the death penalty" infact if you are religious the death penalty is the perfect punishment for him, then he goes strait to hell

make it a slow painfull death to

"The devil is here, boy, the devil himself. The demon couldn't do what the devil sent him to do so the devil came himself," Duncan yells in one video. "The devil likes to watch children suffer and cry."

^ you think scum like this deserves to live?



Ignorance is fun

https://www.msu.edu/~millettf/DeathPenalty/6.html
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#107 foxhound_fox
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People like him don't have the same brain waves as others, according to studies. They respond very differently from other people. The_Ish

Still no point in us being just like him.
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#108 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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Death penalty, or prison. Either way he's a dead man.
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#109 hoola
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No point in us sinking to his level. Lock him in a cage with basic sustenance for the rest of his life to suffer at the hands of his conscience. Everyone has one, even people like this guy, they just don't want anyone to know about it.foxhound_fox

If it was some random shooting out on the streets then i think you may be right...but this guy tortured this kid in Mental, Sexual and Physical ways...he doesn't have a conscience that would make him regret doing it. I bet that any old Murderer out on the streets could kill someone easily but would never be able to do what this guy did. There is a big difference between shooting someone from a distance and torturing someone to death right in front of you.

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#110 DeadMann420
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i'd also like to add the guy is obviously INSANE
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#111 foxhound_fox
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If it was some random shooting out on the streets then i think you may be right...but this guy tortured this kid in Mental, Sexual and Physical ways...he doesn't have a conscience that would make him regret doing it. I bet that any old Murderer out on the streets could kill someone easily but would never be able to do what this guy did. There is a big difference between shooting someone from a distance and torturing someone to death right in front of you.hoola

Again, there is no point in us sinking to his level. If he has a conscience or not doesn't mean we should have people willing to do the same to him.
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#112 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"]People like him don't have the same brain waves as others, according to studies. They respond very differently from other people. foxhound_fox

Still no point in us being just like him.

I disagree that ending his life for the purposes of getting rid of a social menace would make us like him.

As long as we do it to make him pay for torturing and killing 4 people - and not out of anger or sadism.

We don't know what comes after death, and we don't know if there is a God, or whether it would even care about us. So it's up to us to administer justice, or anything that comes close to it, to those who deserve it.

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#113 foxhound_fox
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I disagree that ending his life for the purposes of getting rid of a social menace would make us like him.

As long as we do it to make him pay for torturing and killing 4 people - and not out of anger or sadism.

We don't know what comes after death, and we don't know if there is a God, or whether it would even care about us. So it's up to us to administer justice, or anything that comes close to it, to those who deserve it.

The_Ish

If killing someone is punishable by death then what about the people who carry out the sentence? Or those who decide to administer it? Justice is keeping someone from never doing what they did again. The death sentence is just petty vengeance. If someone who I loved were to be murdered, tortured or whatever, I would be angry and even vengeful but I wouldn't want them to be killed because that is supposedly "justice."

It is exactly the same as if a vigilante or vengeful relative killed the person out of raw emotion, it isn't right and it isn't justice. It may feel like justice but they just ended the life of another human being which they had no right to end, no matter how they felt. I don't feel happy about being part of a race of beings that feels that "justice" is the right to kill another human being.
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I pity the man for his unfortunate actions, but most of all the children who he victimized. It is difficult to even comprehend the boy's state of mind before he was killed. It is a feeling of fear none of us have, nor ever will feel - if we are so fortunate. To know that such pervesion and insanity exists in the world is a troubling prospect - we must have faith that sins will all be accounted for at the final hour, where sinner must atone for their transgressions.

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#115 MFaraz_Hayat
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Stone him to death!
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#117 Schnauzerz
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Stone him to death!MFaraz_Hayat
We, as a society, have moved on from the dark ages. We must at least be better than our worst; if we are to be anythig resembling a society in 100 years.
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#118 SylentButDeadly
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"]I disagree that ending his life for the purposes of getting rid of a social menace would make us like him.

As long as we do it to make him pay for torturing and killing 4 people - and not out of anger or sadism.

We don't know what comes after death, and we don't know if there is a God, or whether it would even care about us. So it's up to us to administer justice, or anything that comes close to it, to those who deserve it.

foxhound_fox


If killing someone is punishable by death then what about the people who carry out the sentence? Or those who decide to administer it? Justice is keeping someone from never doing what they did again. The death sentence is just petty vengeance. If someone who I loved were to be murdered, tortured or whatever, I would be angry and even vengeful but I wouldn't want them to be killed because that is supposedly "justice."

It is exactly the same as if a vigilante or vengeful relative killed the person out of raw emotion, it isn't right and it isn't justice. It may feel like justice but they just ended the life of another human being which they had no right to end, no matter how they felt. I don't feel happy about being part of a race of beings that feels that "justice" is the right to kill another human being.

Apparently, your too weak to kill someone. Give me 5 minutes with him and he'll be gone.

No Man, No Problem.

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#119 MFaraz_Hayat
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"]I disagree that ending his life for the purposes of getting rid of a social menace would make us like him.

As long as we do it to make him pay for torturing and killing 4 people - and not out of anger or sadism.

We don't know what comes after death, and we don't know if there is a God, or whether it would even care about us. So it's up to us to administer justice, or anything that comes close to it, to those who deserve it.

foxhound_fox


If killing someone is punishable by death then what about the people who carry out the sentence? Or those who decide to administer it? Justice is keeping someone from never doing what they did again. The death sentence is just petty vengeance. If someone who I loved were to be murdered, tortured or whatever, I would be angry and even vengeful but I wouldn't want them to be killed because that is supposedly "justice."

It is exactly the same as if a vigilante or vengeful relative killed the person out of raw emotion, it isn't right and it isn't justice. It may feel like justice but they just ended the life of another human being which they had no right to end, no matter how they felt. I don't feel happy about being part of a race of beings that feels that "justice" is the right to kill another human being.

Kill another human being, who raped a 9 year old and then killed him. There is a difference!

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#120 Fortier
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Kill him? Why?

I know he'd spend a lot of the rest of his life in prison waiting for death anyway, but c'mon. This guy doesn't deserve to be let off with death. I wanna see him rotting in a cell until the day he dies.

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#121 MFaraz_Hayat
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[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]Stone him to death!Schnauzerz
We, as a society, have moved on from the dark ages. We must at least be better than our worst; if we are to be anythig resembling a society in 100 years.

I just presented a method of carrying out the death penalty, which many people in this "society" still agree to. Just look through the pages, about the many enlisted manners in which death penalty should be given to this guy.

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#122 II_Seraphim_II
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Maniac...But I still don't agree on the death penalty. I see it as nothing more other than governmental murder.argetlam00

I agree with you. And personally, i think life in prison would be much worse.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]I disagree that ending his life for the purposes of getting rid of a social menace would make us like him.

As long as we do it to make him pay for torturing and killing 4 people - and not out of anger or sadism.

We don't know what comes after death, and we don't know if there is a God, or whether it would even care about us. So it's up to us to administer justice, or anything that comes close to it, to those who deserve it.

SylentButDeadly


If killing someone is punishable by death then what about the people who carry out the sentence? Or those who decide to administer it? Justice is keeping someone from never doing what they did again. The death sentence is just petty vengeance. If someone who I loved were to be murdered, tortured or whatever, I would be angry and even vengeful but I wouldn't want them to be killed because that is supposedly "justice."

It is exactly the same as if a vigilante or vengeful relative killed the person out of raw emotion, it isn't right and it isn't justice. It may feel like justice but they just ended the life of another human being which they had no right to end, no matter how they felt. I don't feel happy about being part of a race of beings that feels that "justice" is the right to kill another human being.

Apparently, your too weak to kill someone. Give me 5 minutes with him and he'll be gone.

No Man, No Problem.

You would solve nothing, save for a fleeting feeling of satisfaction. If he poses a threat to a society, he should be executed; a society has the right and privilege to do that. Thomas Aquinas wrote that in the DARK ages. Today the pope condemns the death penalty because the criminal poses no threat to society. You and I and very different Christians I see.
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#124 foxhound_fox
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Kill another human being, who raped a 9 year old and then killed him. There is a difference! MFaraz_Hayat

How so? Both are the ending of a life. Who's to say the person carrying out the sentence doesn't derive a sick pleasure from doing criminals in? It's the same thing and many people disagree with it.
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#126 The_Ish
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If killing someone is punishable by death then what about the people who carry out the sentence? foxhound_fox

It needs to be someone who understands what they are doing and accepts that there must be someone who does the job. Just because you won't kill, doesn't mean others aren't willing. There is a difference between killing for justice and killing for passion - and legal systems *usually* can tell when a person is of either.

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#127 SylentButDeadly
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[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]Kill another human being, who raped a 9 year old and then killed him. There is a difference! foxhound_fox

How so? Both are the ending of a life. Who's to say the person carrying out the sentence doesn't derive a sick pleasure from doing criminals in? It's the same thing and many people disagree with it.

This guy is killing for pleasure. When we kill him its like putting down a dog with rabies. You just dont comprehend the difference.

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[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]Kill another human being, who raped a 9 year old and then killed him. There is a difference! foxhound_fox

How so? Both are the ending of a life. Who's to say the person carrying out the sentence doesn't derive a sick pleasure from doing criminals in? It's the same thing and many people disagree with it.

Atleast that guy isn't raping and killing innocents(like a 9 yr old boy, in this case)......

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#129 SylentButDeadly
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
If killing someone is punishable by death then what about the people who carry out the sentence? The_Ish

It needs to be someone who understands what they are doing and accepts that there must be someone who does the job. Just because you won't kill, doesn't mean others aren't willing. There is a difference between killing for justice and killing for passion - and legal systems *usually* can tell when a person is of either.

Killing is not punishable, murdering is. Murder is the unlawful killing of a person. When you kill the murderer, you do it legally. Therefore, it is not a murder.

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[QUOTE="Schnauzerz"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]Stone him to death!MFaraz_Hayat

We, as a society, have moved on from the dark ages. We must at least be better than our worst; if we are to be anythig resembling a society in 100 years.

I just presented a method of carrying out the death penalty, which many people in this "society" still agree to. Just look through the pages, about the many enlisted manners in which death penalty should be given to this guy.

That doesnt vindicate the death penalty; its still unnecessary and immoral

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#131 JC346
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[QUOTE="david_critic"]Just put a bullet in his head. Simple. No need for death row, just kill him. He's not going to ever be rehabiliated and he will never do anything good for the world or have a positive influence on it. Letting him rot in prison is a waste of money and time. Just take a gun, put it to his head and pull the trigger, solves the problem in one second.legend26

No, I have a better idea. We cut the back of his ankles (forget what they are called) then say he has five seconds to go through an open door, and if he doesn't make it, he gets burned.

to quick....can we shoot him in the knee caps, then pistal whip him first?

No, I have a better idea. Someone cuts the back of his feet (I forget what the muscle is called) then someone says he has 10 seconds to go through an open door, and if he doesn't make it, he gets burned.
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#132 foxhound_fox
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Atleast that guy isn't raping and killing innocents(like a 9 yr old boy, in this case)......MFaraz_Hayat

But how does that justify us sinking to his level and ending his life? He wasn't threatening an innocent life, he ended an innocent life and has no capability of doing it again so killing him won't solve anything.
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#133 foxhound_fox
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Killing is not punishable, murdering is. Murder is the unlawful killing of a person. When you kill the murderer, you do it legally. Therefore, it is not a murder.SylentButDeadly

And yet many countries around the world have laws preventing the use of the death penalty in their legal systems... :|
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#135 Schnauzerz
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But seriously guys. Could that guy look any more creepy/demented. His choice of clothes/demeanor/stare all of it...

He looks like Mr. Rogers on crack

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#136 foxhound_fox
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Lets just pretent he is going to kill another kid and you just have to kill him before he does. The cops should have done this already, but sadly the kid it already dead because they can't kill a muder.magicalclick

There is a difference between stopping someone from doing something and catching them after the act. It is justifiable to kill someone who is threatening the life of another if that amount of force is necessary to save that life. This child is already dead and cannot be saved. He now cannot do anymore more harm locked away in a cage for the rest of his life.
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[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]Atleast that guy isn't raping and killing innocents(like a 9 yr old boy, in this case)......foxhound_fox

But how does that justify us sinking to his level and ending his life? He wasn't threatening an innocent life, he ended an innocent life and has no capability of doing it again so killing him won't solve anything.

So by your logic: Killing/Raping/Torturing Children = Executing Murder/Rapist/Torturer

[QUOTE="SylentButDeadly"]Killing is not punishable, murdering is. Murder is the unlawful killing of a person. When you kill the murderer, you do it legally. Therefore, it is not a murder.foxhound_fox

And yet many countries around the world have laws preventing the use of the death penalty in their legal systems... :|

And those legal systems are flawed.

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#138 SylentButDeadly
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[QUOTE="magicalclick"]Lets just pretent he is going to kill another kid and you just have to kill him before he does. The cops should have done this already, but sadly the kid it already dead because they can't kill a muder.foxhound_fox

There is a difference between stopping someone from doing something and catching them after the act. It is justifiable to kill someone who is threatening the life of another if that amount of force is necessary to save that life. This child is already dead and cannot be saved. He now cannot do anymore more harm locked away in a cage for the rest of his life.

So its ok if they are about to or are killing someone, but if they already did it, its bad. Again, your logic is flawed.

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[QUOTE="SylentButDeadly"]Killing is not punishable, murdering is. Murder is the unlawful killing of a person. When you kill the murderer, you do it legally. Therefore, it is not a murder.foxhound_fox

And yet many countries around the world have laws preventing the use of the death penalty in their legal systems... :|

So wat if he gets released from jailed in 30 years on some BS abouit him changing?I seen people murder and get released before.So i guest the kids parents should be sastisfied right.They end up with a dead kid and he goes to jail.Gets to eat and live.Very fair

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#140 TheCraving
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Now that the guy is caught he won't want to be released (not that he'd ever get the chance). If he truly is what they call a 'serial killer' then he does what he does not because he wants to because he HAS to. It's an urge inside of them. If they themselves know that if the ever will get out, even escape (Ted Bundy escaped from prison and went on a killing spree in Flordia) that they will kill more people.

Despite all this, I say lock them in solitary and let them rot there, because they will want to die. As Albert Fish said when he found out he was getting the chair "the chair? it will be the supreme thrill of my life".

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#141 Montaya
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Oh thats one of the most horrible things ever.. Should be hanged in times square and brodcasted nationally after being stoned and left out on a noose then hanged days later.
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[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]Atleast that guy isn't raping and killing innocents(like a 9 yr old boy, in this case)......foxhound_fox

But how does that justify us sinking to his level and ending his life? He wasn't threatening an innocent life, he ended an innocent life and has no capability of doing it again so killing him won't solve anything.

Why is he not capable? Life imprsionment? Have you ruled out the possibility of a prison escape? Sure, I might be assuming but if such people escape and then this case gets repeated, will you accept death penalty then?

And, we are not sinking to his level. The executor is killing a guilty person, who has raped and killed a 9 yr old child. That man, was killing and raping innocent children! How can this be stooping to his level?

Plus, with whose money are those life-time imprisonment guys getting fed with? Taxes? If so, then isn't it like innocent feeding the guilty? For all we know, that money can be spent for the welfare of this world.

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Want some candy?

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#144 foxhound_fox
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So by your logic: Killing/Raping/Torturing Children = Executing Murder/Rapist/TorturerSylentButDeadly


Yes, because I actually said that... :roll:

Ending a life is ending a life. The overbearing circumstances don't change the fact that a life is being ended at the hands of another. Ending his life now is no different than stuffing him in a cage for the rest of his life, if he has no capability of harming another innocent person or threatening another then there is no reason to kill him. We are human beings, we are supposed to be superior to animals.

And those legal systems are flawed.SylentButDeadly

Or much less medieval.

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#145 Schnauzerz
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Oh thats one of the most horrible things ever.. Should be hanged in times square and brodcasted nationally after being stoned and left out on a noose then hanged days later.Montaya
That guy would probably be enjoying it every second of the way. And to think of what other european nations who have outlawed the death penalty would think of us
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#147 MFaraz_Hayat
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[QUOTE="SylentButDeadly"]Killing is not punishable, murdering is. Murder is the unlawful killing of a person. When you kill the murderer, you do it legally. Therefore, it is not a murder.foxhound_fox

And yet many countries around the world have laws preventing the use of the death penalty in their legal systems... :|

One of the major reasons, why death penalty was removed was that there is no turning back. Once you have carried out death penalty, and later that guy is found innocent no one can bring him back.

Here, there is no doubt that the man is guilty! He accepts it, there is a video etc.

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#148 foxhound_fox
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Why is he not capable? Life imprsionment? Have you ruled out the possibility of a prison escape? Sure, I might be assuming but if such people escape and then this case gets repeated, will you accept death penalty then?

And, we are not sinking to his level. The executor is killing a guilty person, who has raped and killed a 9 yr old child. That man, was killing and raping innocent children! How can this be stooping to his level?

Plus, with whose money are those life-time imprisonment guys getting fed with? Taxes? If so, then isn't it like innocent feeding the guilty? For all we know, that money can be spent for the welfare of this world.

MFaraz_Hayat

How do you escape from a tiny concrete cell with reinforced steel bars that you spend 24 hours a day in with nothing more than a steel platform to sleep on where it never gets dark and you are constantly under surveillance?

Appeals process costs more than life in prison. Even this guy is going to get costly appeals if he gets the death sentence, even if he is guilty.
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#150 jujutheking
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[QUOTE="SylentButDeadly"]

So by your logic: Killing/Raping/Torturing Children = Executing Murder/Rapist/Torturerfoxhound_fox


Yes, because I actually said that... :roll:

Ending a life is ending a life. The overbearing circumstances don't change the fact that a life is being ended at the hands of another. Ending his life now is no different than stuffing him in a cage for the rest of his life, if he has no capability of harming another innocent person or threatening another then there is no reason to kill him. We are human beings, we are supposed to be superior to animals.

And those legal systems are flawed.SylentButDeadly

Or much less medieval.

superior to animals??We are animals look at the world.We just have a bigger brain ad thumbs.If were not animals we wouldn't have wars still.We keep building new things and getting smarter, but one things stay constant.People want thing and that includes other peoples things.So i guest killing animals is all good right?