The Devil Is Here, Boy. Says Convicter Killer. Child Rapist/Torturer On Trial

Its funny because you have a muslim sounding user name and a quote from the koran in your sig, and you also favor the death penalty. Big surprise.

Do you also happen to support honor stonings?

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"][QUOTE="Schnauzerz"]

The only practical purpose the Death Penalty has is apparently giving psychological relief to the victims family, though I doubt it will relieve much.

Economically speaking, morally speaking, and socially speaking, it is an affront on all levels. It serves no purpose other than a fleeting sense of vengeance.

Jail time actually has purposes other than punishment, though I admit its one of them, mainly segregation of the criminal from society.

The death penalty is a cheap form of revenge proponed by hot tempered individuals who let their emotions get the better of them.

In the Dark Ages, many people despised the death penalty. Its time we get with the times.

My points will fall on deaf and stubborn ears Im afraid

Schnauzerz

i posted it before, I post it again:

Revenge?

Revenge:to exact punishment or expiation for a wrong on behalf of, esp. in a resentful or vindictive spirit

Knowing how the prsioner will be treated by the inmates, and life-time imprisonment it self will serve the purpose of revenge.

You said that prisoners are not in contact with other in-mates.This is not neccessarily true, for all the jails in the entire world. Plus, I have read in this very thread that many people encourage life-imprisonment because the in-mates will torture the prisoner. Obviously then, the prisoner must be in contact with other in-mates.

Appeal is a process. You are assuming that in every country of this world, the appeal costs are very high. This is not the case, plus the appeal costs may be changed.

You are saying that death-penalty serves only revenge. However, you have still not answered what will happen in case of prison-breaks. And for those who think that cells should be made "escape-proof", it's not possible especailly for all the countries in this world to have such jails.

Plus, the prospect of the in-mates raping and torturing the prisoner also serves the purpose of revenge.

Its funny because you have a muslim sounding user name and a quote from the koran in your sig, and you also favor the death penalty. Big surprise.

Do you also happen to support honor stonings?

Schnauzerz

Can you tell me that what are honor stoning? I apologise for my ignorance.

Have I once used religion in my talk? When I do, then comment on me being a muslim and all that.

[QUOTE="SylentButDeadly"]See, its a personal thing with you. Sit back and let people who arent afraid to do whats right, do the right thing.foxhound_fox

1 step towards fixing overpopulation.

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]Let me ask you death Penalty supporters one thing, do you also believe in the sanctity of life? Tauruslink

So, I ask you: If a guy is a serial killer and murders 10 people. We donot issue the death penalty, and imprison him for life. Now he manages to escape the prison and murders 10 more people. In the end, which path was safegurading life more?

You keep asuming that everyone who goes to prison escapes.

Okay, then can anyone take guarantee that a prisoner is not going to escape?

Plus, prison-breaks and criminals escaping from jails is quite rampant in third-world countries.

I have no clue what country you are from but you are not familiar with the US judicial system.

How can the inmates torture an inmate in a cell 23 hours a day with a one hour walk with an armed guard as his only company.

Prison breaks? This is a U.S. super max jail we are talking about. No one escapes. We ARE NOT talking about other countries where it may be neccesary, just AMERICA.

Again, he wont have ANY contact with any prisoner, I guarantee it.

I have no clue what country you are from but you are not familiar with the US judicial system.

How can the inmates torture an inmate in a cell 23 hours a day with a one hour walk with an armed guard as his only company.

Prison breaks? This is a U.S. super max jail we are talking about. No one escapes. We ARE NOT talking about other countries where it may be neccesary, just AMERICA.

Again, he wont have ANY contact with any prisoner, I guarantee it.

Schnauzerz

I thought we were talking about "death-penalty" in general, as this is what it seemed from everyone's argument.

So do you accept that death-penalty should be carried out, if not in USA, in other countries(third-world mainly)?

[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

We would probably benefit from studying him in a lab than throwing him in prison.

The_Ish

I've rarely seen someone like this. It's Buddha without the love. What kind of experiences make a person like this?

This is true, I always wonder what makes people like this tick. What drives a normal person to the brink of utter insanity, even to the point where they enjoy it?

[QUOTE="Schnauzerz"]

I have no clue what country you are from but you are not familiar with the US judicial system.

How can the inmates torture an inmate in a cell 23 hours a day with a one hour walk with an armed guard as his only company.

Prison breaks? This is a U.S. super max jail we are talking about. No one escapes. We ARE NOT talking about other countries where it may be neccesary, just AMERICA.

Again, he wont have ANY contact with any prisoner, I guarantee it.

MFaraz_Hayat

I thought we were talking about "death-penalty" in general, as this is what it seemed from everyone's argument.

So do you accept that death-penalty should be carried out, if not in USA, in other countries(third-world mainly)?

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"][QUOTE="Schnauzerz"]

I have no clue what country you are from but you are not familiar with the US judicial system.

How can the inmates torture an inmate in a cell 23 hours a day with a one hour walk with an armed guard as his only company.

Prison breaks? This is a U.S. super max jail we are talking about. No one escapes. We ARE NOT talking about other countries where it may be neccesary, just AMERICA.

Again, he wont have ANY contact with any prisoner, I guarantee it.

Schnauzerz

I thought we were talking about "death-penalty" in general, as this is what it seemed from everyone's argument.

So do you accept that death-penalty should be carried out, if not in USA, in other countries(third-world mainly)?

And just check this case:

Richard Lee McNair has escaped from custody three times, including from a federal maximum-security prison in April 2006. He has been recaptured by the RCMP on October 25, 2007 in Campbellton, New Brunswick, when he was stopped while driving a stolen vehicle.

Talk about maximum-security prison. Still guarantee that prisoner cannot escape?

On December 15, 2007 inmates Jose Espinosa and Otis Blunt escaped from the high security level of the Union County jail in Elizabeth, New Jersey. Espinosa was awaiting sentencing on an aggravated manslaughter charge, while Blunt was being held in lieu of bond on robbery and weapons charges. They escaped by scraping away the mortar around the cinder blocks making up the cell walls. They then smashed the block, hid the pieces in a footlocker and covered the holes with pin-up pictures. To delay knowledge of the escape, they made dummies out of sheets and pillowcases and left them in their beds. Espinosa was recaptured on Tuesday, January 8, 2008. Blunt was recaptured the following day Wednesday, January 9, 2008 in Mexico city, Mexico

I never guaranteed he would never escape, just that he would be alone always. With enough monitoring of guard routines and movements ect. and standard security protocal, a very skilled indivudual could escape. This is very rare however and the criminals are almost always recaptured. The second instance was not a fed max security prison

Regardless this guy is going to a supermax, no one has ever escaped from one of those in recent times.

[QUOTE="Schnauzerz"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"][QUOTE="Schnauzerz"]

The only practical purpose the Death Penalty has is apparently giving psychological relief to the victims family, though I doubt it will relieve much.

Economically speaking, morally speaking, and socially speaking, it is an affront on all levels. It serves no purpose other than a fleeting sense of vengeance.

Jail time actually has purposes other than punishment, though I admit its one of them, mainly segregation of the criminal from society.

The death penalty is a cheap form of revenge proponed by hot tempered individuals who let their emotions get the better of them.

In the Dark Ages, many people despised the death penalty. Its time we get with the times.

My points will fall on deaf and stubborn ears Im afraid

MFaraz_Hayat

i posted it before, I post it again:

Revenge?

Revenge:to exact punishment or expiation for a wrong on behalf of, esp. in a resentful or vindictive spirit

Knowing how the prsioner will be treated by the inmates, and life-time imprisonment it self will serve the purpose of revenge.

You said that prisoners are not in contact with other in-mates.This is not neccessarily true, for all the jails in the entire world. Plus, I have read in this very thread that many people encourage life-imprisonment because the in-mates will torture the prisoner. Obviously then, the prisoner must be in contact with other in-mates.

Appeal is a process. You are assuming that in every country of this world, the appeal costs are very high. This is not the case, plus the appeal costs may be changed.

You are saying that death-penalty serves only revenge. However, you have still not answered what will happen in case of prison-breaks. And for those who think that cells should be made "escape-proof", it's not possible especailly for all the countries in this world to have such jails.

Plus, the prospect of the in-mates raping and torturing the prisoner also serves the purpose of revenge.

Look, I dont know about other countries, but this is America, and here we do have maximum security prisons.

Also, just because there are some cases of inmates escaping doesnt mean that putting someone is prison is pointless. If thats your logic, then why put anyone in prison in the first place? Afterall, theyre just going to escape right? See how dumb that sounds?

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Let me ask you death Penalty supporters one thing, do you also believe in the sanctity of life? Film-Guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Djohakx_FE

no

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]Stone him to death!Schnauzerz

if we have moved on from the dark agees, then why do we still have people like him

why do we still have war

why do we still have murder in the streets

technologically yes we have moved on, but mentally know

Thats terrible, but who am i to put someone to death? How will torturing and murdering this man change what he did? Or bring back the lives he took? Why should commit same acts as this man in the name of objective morality.(if there is such a thing)xxDustmanxx

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"]Thats terrible, but who am i to put someone to death? How will torturing and murdering this man change what he did? Or bring back the lives he took? Why should commit same acts as this man in the name of objective morality.(if there is such a thing)-Sniper99-

[QUOTE="Schnauzerz"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]Stone him to death!legend26

if we have moved on from the dark agees, then why do we still have people like him

why do we still have war

why do we still have murder in the streets

technologically yes we have moved on, but mentally know

[QUOTE="legend26"]

[QUOTE="Schnauzerz"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]Stone him to death!forgot_it

if we have moved on from the dark agees, then why do we still have people like him

why do we still have war

why do we still have murder in the streets

technologically yes we have moved on, but mentally know

yes we should make an effort to change, and one step to change is to get rid of all the maniacs like that guy

i dont understand how people dont get it

we get rid of people like him, and the world could be a better place

[QUOTE="forgot_it"][QUOTE="legend26"]

[QUOTE="Schnauzerz"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]Stone him to death!legend26

if we have moved on from the dark agees, then why do we still have people like him

why do we still have war

why do we still have murder in the streets

technologically yes we have moved on, but mentally know

yes we should make an effort to change, and one step to change is to get rid of all the maniacs like that guy

i dont understand how people dont get it

we get rid of people like him, and the world could be a better place

If we lock him up, he's no longer negatively affecting the world; he can do no harm. Given the ability to do that, the death penalty is simply unnessecary.

[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="forgot_it"][QUOTE="legend26"]

[QUOTE="Schnauzerz"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]Stone him to death!Funky_Llama

if we have moved on from the dark agees, then why do we still have people like him

why do we still have war

why do we still have murder in the streets

technologically yes we have moved on, but mentally know

yes we should make an effort to change, and one step to change is to get rid of all the maniacs like that guy

i dont understand how people dont get it

we get rid of people like him, and the world could be a better place

If we lock him up, he's no longer negatively affecting the world; he can do no harm. Given the ability to do that, the death penalty is simply unnessecary.

hes still negativly effecting the familly of the boy! how do you think they felling knowing he is still alive?

how do you think the gaurds watching over him feel,i'll tell you, "uggggghhh i cant believe i have to take care of this scum"

theres a simple solution to this! kill him! its simple, strait, and to the point, we kill him, then bam! we dont have to talk about this

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]Maniac...But I still don't agree on the death penalty. I see it as nothing more other than governmental murder.legend26

BS, you would rather your tax dollors being spend feeding this maniac in jail, no, death penalty all the way, people like him surve no purpose on this earth and dont deserve to breath this air, and dont give me none of that "two wrongs dont make a right" this guy kidnapped, raped, beat, and killed a little boy, and you say "dont give him the death penalty" infact if you are religious the death penalty is the perfect punishment for him, then he goes strait to hell

Yeah, you gotta face facts. It would cost much less for this guy to be killed.

e[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]Let me ask you death Penalty supporters one thing, do you also believe in the sanctity of life? legend26

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Djohakx_FE

no

You saw what I was trying to do:P

[QUOTE="legend26"]

e[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]Let me ask you death Penalty supporters one thing, do you also believe in the sanctity of life? Film-Guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Djohakx_FE

no

You saw what I was trying to do:P

i c wutu did thar :P

Maniac...But I still don't agree on the death penalty. I see it as nothing more other than governmental murder.argetlam00

Murder is illegal killing. War and judicial penalty do not fit that definition. I don't want my tax money spent buying gym equipment and food for people like this.