The iron fist looms over torrent sites and pirates everywhere..

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="jaydough"] But if I want the choice, I should be able to get the choice.

jaydough

[QUOTE="alexside1"]1.gay marriage can't be censor sence it violiates freedom of exprotion. piracy isn't exprstion so no exptions. 2. Refering durgs that harms you not help you. ( when it comes to health)jaydough

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[QUOTE="alexside1"] Gay marriage involves with state not the entire U.S. Drugs *are* bad when it comes to health and I certenly don't want to see kids smoking cigrates.alexside1

Kids aren't allowed to smoke, a large portion of drugs are completely harmless, and it's your choice whether you use them.

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] I want to ride a bus full of marshmallows to uni instead of the one I get. Sadly the choice isn't there. I could put it in a request, though... so I suggest you could write a letter to the government stating that you particularly wish to get content from a site bearing your desired name of choice (because the available ones aren't to your taste).SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="jaydough"] It's still illegal, and harmless.

Kids aren't allowed to smoke, a large portion of drugs are completely harmless, and it's your choice whether you use them.

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="jaydough"] If that bus full of marshmallows existed, would you allow the bus to be taken away by the government because some of the passengers use the marshmallows to throw at people?

jaydough

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[QUOTE="alexside1"]1.gay marriage can't be censor sence it violiates freedom of exprotion. piracy isn't exprstion so no exptions. 2. Refering durgs that harms you not help you. ( when it comes to health)alexside1

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="jaydough"] Okay, I've kind of ignored the spelling/grammar mistakes throughout the thread, but god damn. What are you saying?

jaydough

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Depends on the scale of marshmallow throwing. If almost everyone did it and the driver didn't care, then yes. That would be comparable to the Pirate Bay. Ff only some did and the driver kicked them off, then no... that would be like banning YouTube.SolidSnake35

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[QUOTE="alexside1"] Gay marrage can't be censor since it violates freedom of expression. Piracy isn't a form of expression. alexside1

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[QUOTE="alexside1"] Gay marrage can't be censor since it violates freedom of expression. Piracy isn't a form of expression. alexside1

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="jaydough"] Okay, so it's not the spelling. I just honestly don't understand what you're saying.

jaydough

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="jaydough"] Okay, so it's not the spelling. I just honestly don't understand what you're saying.

testfactor888

[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="alexside1"] I saying the goverment can't cesor gay marrage since it violates freedom of expression. Since piracy isn't expressing or anything, the government can censor it.StopThePresses

I am assuming that the government also plans on lowering the ****-high prices on all this media if this bill goes through. Oh wait, I forgot our money doesn't matter.

Well I'm not affected by this, but remember kids...

Well I'm not affected by this, but remember kids...

Espada12

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Well I'm not affected by this, but remember kids...

alexside1

and stay in school!

I am assuming that the government also plans on lowering the ****-high prices on all this media if this bill goes through. Oh wait, I forgot our money doesn't matter.

Rckstrchik

if 'I understand correctly, that would mean Megaupload will die soon if passed. NOEZ!!!!

Well I'm not affected by this, but remember kids...

Espada12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ym2Jma04qo&feature=related

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Sorry we cant give you access to ilegal websites that infringe on other peoples work?

alexside1

"Sorry we can't give you access to this site. It contains information that might cause "civil disobedience."

It's a very dangerous precedent to set. I'd rather not live in China.

Stop trying to charge outrageous prices and stop pissing on your customers.

Unfortunately I don't find piracy to be a real problem, and certainly not a big enough problem to CENSOR THE INTERNET so that a few companies can feel better. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Sorry we cant give you access to ilegal websites that infringe on other peoples work?

DroidPhysX

"Sorry we can't give you access to this site. It contains information that might cause "civil disobedience."

It's a very dangerous precedent to set. I'd rather not live in China.

Really? I can still go on Youtube, BBC, MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, ABC, etc.....oh wait...China blocks those websites....god forbid we try to clamp down on piracy by blocking these websites. Also if you havent noticed...China doesnt block websites that offer illegal downloads...

For now. In the future though, who is to say? Perhaps the government will feel a site criticizing US policy is "dangerous to national unity" and blocks it to "protect the well being of the people". They may not do this but I for one do NOT want to give precedence for them to essentially censor any website they deem inappropriate.

For every action, there's usually an equal opposite reaction. I think this will be the case if the bill passes. Pirates will always find a way around nearly any censorship the government tries to put up....tocool340

Good.

all in the name of preserving the social elite! It's funny how people think capitalism leads to the best good. When it's only interest is protect the few. What's sad is that for it to work they actually have to have the rest of the population believe its for the best, and they buy into it.EMOEVOLUTION

Do you seriously think these things should be free? Copyrights are important and this is no exception.

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]all in the name of preserving the social elite! It's funny how people think capitalism leads to the best good. When it's only interest is protect the few. What's sad is that for it to work they actually have to have the rest of the population believe its for the best, and they buy into it.bloodling

Do you seriously think these things should be free? Copyrights are important and this is no exception.

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]all in the name of preserving the social elite! It's funny how people think capitalism leads to the best good. When it's only interest is protect the few. What's sad is that for it to work they actually have to have the rest of the population believe its for the best, and they buy into it.Human-after-all

Do you seriously think these things should be free? Copyrights are important and this is no exception.

High horse? How is saying the governemnt intervening with ILLEGAL activities is a good thing means Im on a high horse? Im so glad to know that you support piracy

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]all in the name of preserving the social elite! It's funny how people think capitalism leads to the best good. When it's only interest is protect the few. What's sad is that for it to work they actually have to have the rest of the population believe its for the best, and they buy into it.Human-after-all

Do you seriously think these things should be free? Copyrights are important and this is no exception.

What bigger picture? Being angry because the prices are too high, so you get it for free? They can't drop their prices if people keep getting it for free. There is no reason why it should be free.

I use Dirpy

I see no problem in doing that for music and movies. TV shows should always be available for a certain amount of time on some kind of website with commercials, though. I did download some episodes just because I missed them and deleted them right away.

I was skeptical until I saw thisxaos

I'm fine with this; something has to be done about piracy. Getting a product for free, when you're supposed to pay for it, is theft.

This plan doesn't sound terrible at all, it just helps prevent future piracy. The potential for abuse is there, but the same can be said about a lot of everyday things, and I'll complain when I see such an abuse.

[QUOTE="alexside1"]About **** time that the government dose something about this.dreDREb13

Oh no, I support the ending of illegal activities. I am in an ivory tower. :|

my personal feeling is that the internet is one of the last remaining neutral, free areas people can meet and anonymously and conveniently discuss any thing they want, share ideas, and share other things.

The media can do what they wish provided it legal, but frankly the government should take a laissez faire attitude towards it, except for when a record company goes too far and tries to sue someone for 10k dollars for 50 songs; in that case, the government should defend the individual against cruel and unusual punishment.

The internet is one of those things we just have to take with a grain of salt.

[QUOTE="dreDREb13"][QUOTE="alexside1"]About **** time that the government dose something about this.789shadow

Oh no, I support the ending of illegal activities. I am in an ivory tower. :|

unless you work for a company severely suffering from online piracy, the most you should be is indifferent...and definately not in favor of this.

My greatest fear is that this is the first step down a slippery slope.

I'm quite glad I don't live in the US. But then again, with big-Conservative-daddy Harper here in Canada, I'm sure we're not too far behind. What does this mean for legitmate file-sharing users? What does this mean for indie musicians and game developers who depend on piracy (at least, in the sense where one person buys something, and gives it to all their friends, who them go on to buy it themselves because they love it and want to support the creator)for word-of-mouth transmission of their ideas?

Good thing I'm Canadian then

Oh noes, a few of the multi-millionaire record company CEO's are going to have to sell the diamond plated rims on their Rolls-Royce 'cause of Piracy(which has existed before the internet)... better shut down torrent sites that don't regulate what people share even though those same torrent sites offer a vast amount of LEGAL/FREE/OPEN SOURCE software to a lot of people that DON'T commit copyright infringement. :roll: This is ridiculous. Torrent sites don't host any of the software on their servers, so don't take it out on them. People choose what they want to seed. So what if Bill Gates has to sell a few of his 300 islands and mansions due to the "mark" piracy has left on Microsoft... :roll:Messiahbolical-

This is specifically against copyright infringements, not all torrents. If pirates aren't able to get their stuff for free, I'm not gonna start crying. I paid for that.

Well, the torrents sites will hax and then use flamethrower on iron first. It's Super Effective!

Hmm, if they do this whats to stop them from shutting down a p0rn site, or an anti-government site. Pirates were around before torrents and will just find a new protocol to use if torrent sites get attacked. It should be noted that there are web communities (which im not allowed to name) that have shown the ability to rally behind causes like this and fight back proactively with web attacks.

Hmm, if they do this whats to stop them from shutting down a p0rn site, or an anti-government site. Pirates were around before torrents and will just find a new protocol to use if torrent sites get attacked. It should be noted that there are web communities (which im not allowed to name) that have shown the ability to rally behind causes like this and fight back proactively with web attacks.

Diablo-B

I have no problem with them blocking child pornography. Blocking anti-government sites have nothing to do with this, and I'm pretty sure the government knows doing this would be shooting themselves in the foot. Whether or not people find another way is not important.