The United States vs The United Kingdom

[QUOTE="tomo90"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Seriously why did you Brits ban hand guns? I'm getting my concealed carry license soon so I can carry in public, I just feel safer with it. I have been attacked before and I would have killed them in self defense if I had a gun.

How do you guys avoid groups of people that want to hurt you? How do you hurt them back and defend yourself? How do you expect to kill them if they are trying to kill you? Makes no sense.

Hexagon_777

Use common sense. I personally avoid areas that are known for trouble, with tight gun laws the majority of the time the worst thing that can happen is someone will pull a knife on you and if this is the unfortunate case it's usually a mugging. So I'd just hand over my stuff and walk away. Alive.

The chances of that happening are fortunatly very low if you live where I'm fortunate enough to live, i.e. the suburbs and not inner city.

Also you talk about killing someone pretty matter of factly. I find it hard to believe any sane generally good hearted person could be so cold about it, unless they were being particularly naive about it. Or perhaps I'm the one being naive.

I don't kill anyone, just self defense is a neccessity. And you have to be prepared to kill someone in the right circumcstances. It's just a fact of life. Someone breaks into your house and they are going to harm you and your family what are you going to do? You have to be prepared to kill them or they are going to kill you.

And we Jews are no longer the clever but wimpy stereotypes anymore. Our story is one literaly of survival, and Israel is proof of that. We will not return to the gas chambers, we will not rely on others for survival, we have to rely on ourselves.

You must be kind and love others fore most, but show no mercy to those who want to wipe you from existence. You probably don't understand. My life story is probably vastly different from your life story. But trust me, you have to learn to defend yourself.

This thread is redundant anyway; every country in the world is inferior to Canada. Ninja-Hippo

To be fair, after weighing all arguements and counter arguements and after cross examining the available evidence, I find this location to be the superior country.

It's called Sealand and it even has it's own flag and a population of 4. It boasts a modest economy with a GDP of $600,000, it's own currency and royalty and soon will have it's own casino. If we ignore the fact it's not TECHNICALLY a country...yet.

To be fair, after weighing all arguements and counter arguements and after cross examining the available evidence, I find this location to be the superior country.

It's called Sealand and it even has it's own flag and a population of 4. It boasts a modest economy with a GDP of $600,000, it's own currency and royalty and soon will have it's own casino. If we ignore the fact it's not TECHNICALLY a country...yet.

tomo90

lol who would want to live in that dump? :P

[QUOTE="tomo90"]

To be fair, after weighing all arguements and counter arguements and after cross examining the available evidence, I find this location to be the superior country.

It's called Sealand and it even has it's own flag and a population of 4. It boasts a modest economy with a GDP of $600,000, it's own currency and royalty and soon will have it's own casino. If we ignore the fact it's not TECHNICALLY a country...yet.

ShadowMoses900

lol who would want to live in that dump? :P

Prince Roy Bates.

Show some respect.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="tomo90"]

To be fair, after weighing all arguements and counter arguements and after cross examining the available evidence, I find this location to be the superior country.

It's called Sealand and it even has it's own flag and a population of 4. It boasts a modest economy with a GDP of $600,000, it's own currency and royalty and soon will have it's own casino. If we ignore the fact it's not TECHNICALLY a country...yet.

tomo90

lol who would want to live in that dump? :P

Prince Roy Bates.

Show some respect.

It's pretty funny how they even have their own athletes, but they play in Table Tennis and stuff. I can't believe these people think they are going to make a successful nation out of that, is that all it is? No actual land at all? What is their miliatry lol?

[QUOTE="tomo90"]

To be fair, after weighing all arguements and counter arguements and after cross examining the available evidence, I find this location to be the superior country.

It's called Sealand and it even has it's own flag and a population of 4. It boasts a modest economy with a GDP of $600,000, it's own currency and royalty and soon will have it's own casino. If we ignore the fact it's not TECHNICALLY a country...yet.

ShadowMoses900

lol who would want to live in that dump? :P

To be fair, after weighing all arguements and counter arguements and after cross examining the available evidence, I find this location to be the superior country.

It's called Sealand and it even has it's own flag and a population of 4. It boasts a modest economy with a GDP of $600,000, it's own currency and royalty and soon will have it's own casino. If we ignore the fact it's not TECHNICALLY a country...yet.

tomo90

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="tomo90"]

To be fair, after weighing all arguements and counter arguements and after cross examining the available evidence, I find this location to be the superior country.

It's called Sealand and it even has it's own flag and a population of 4. It boasts a modest economy with a GDP of $600,000, it's own currency and royalty and soon will have it's own casino. If we ignore the fact it's not TECHNICALLY a country...yet.

k2theswiss

lol who would want to live in that dump? :P

But there wouldn't be any women, how could anyone live without them around?

And I need civilization, I tried living alone from society like that once, it makes you lose your mind. You start to go crazy.

ow they even have their own athletes, but they play in Table Tennis and stuff. I can't believe these people think they are going to make a successful nation out of that, is that all it is? No actual land at all? What is their miliatry lol?

ShadowMoses900

We kicked their asses twice and can do it again!

Seriously why did you Brits ban hand guns? I'm getting my concealed carry license soon so I can carry in public, I just feel safer with it. I have been attacked before and I would have killed them in self defense if I had a gun.

How do you guys avoid groups of people that want to hurt you? How do you hurt them back and defend yourself? How do you expect to kill them if they are trying to kill you? Makes no sense.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

ow they even have their own athletes, but they play in Table Tennis and stuff. I can't believe these people think they are going to make a successful nation out of that, is that all it is? No actual land at all? What is their miliatry lol?

toast_burner

Ya I know, it's still pretty funny though. I find it hilarious.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Seriously why did you Brits ban hand guns? I'm getting my concealed carry license soon so I can carry in public, I just feel safer with it. I have been attacked before and I would have killed them in self defense if I had a gun.

How do you guys avoid groups of people that want to hurt you? How do you hurt them back and defend yourself? How do you expect to kill them if they are trying to kill you? Makes no sense.

TopTierHustler

Self Defense means over compensating? Ok? Perhaps you should ask the same question to the military, I'm sure they would appreciate that question.

Why do you lock your car doors or your house? What are you compensating for?

How do you defend yourself?

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Seriously why did you Brits ban hand guns? I'm getting my concealed carry license soon so I can carry in public, I just feel safer with it. I have been attacked before and I would have killed them in self defense if I had a gun.

How do you guys avoid groups of people that want to hurt you? How do you hurt them back and defend yourself? How do you expect to kill them if they are trying to kill you? Makes no sense.

ShadowMoses900

Self Defense means over compensating? Ok? Perhaps you should ask the same question to the military, I'm sure they would appreciate that question.

Why do you lock your car doors or your house? What are you compensating for?

How do you defend yourself?

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Seriously why did you Brits ban hand guns? I'm getting my concealed carry license soon so I can carry in public, I just feel safer with it. I have been attacked before and I would have killed them in self defense if I had a gun.

How do you guys avoid groups of people that want to hurt you? How do you hurt them back and defend yourself? How do you expect to kill them if they are trying to kill you? Makes no sense.

ShadowMoses900

Self Defense means over compensating? Ok? Perhaps you should ask the same question to the military, I'm sure they would appreciate that question.

Why do you lock your car doors or your house? What are you compensating for?

How do you defend yourself?

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="tomo90"]

Use common sense. I personally avoid areas that are known for trouble, with tight gun laws the majority of the time the worst thing that can happen is someone will pull a knife on you and if this is the unfortunate case it's usually a mugging. So I'd just hand over my stuff and walk away. Alive.

The chances of that happening are fortunatly very low if you live where I'm fortunate enough to live, i.e. the suburbs and not inner city.

Also you talk about killing someone pretty matter of factly. I find it hard to believe any sane generally good hearted person could be so cold about it, unless they were being particularly naive about it. Or perhaps I'm the one being naive.

ShadowMoses900

I don't kill anyone, just self defense is a neccessity. And you have to be prepared to kill someone in the right circumcstances. It's just a fact of life. Someone breaks into your house and they are going to harm you and your family what are you going to do? You have to be prepared to kill them or they are going to kill you.

And we Jews are no longer the clever but wimpy stereotypes anymore. Our story is one literaly of survival, and Israel is proof of that. We will not return to the gas chambers, we will not rely on others for survival, we have to rely on ourselves.

You must be kind and love others fore most, but show no mercy to those who want to wipe you from existence. You probably don't understand. My life story is probably vastly different from your life story. But trust me, you have to learn to defend yourself.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Seriously why did you Brits ban hand guns? I'm getting my concealed carry license soon so I can carry in public, I just feel safer with it. I have been attacked before and I would have killed them in self defense if I had a gun.

How do you guys avoid groups of people that want to hurt you? How do you hurt them back and defend yourself? How do you expect to kill them if they are trying to kill you? Makes no sense.

toast_burner

Self Defense means over compensating? Ok? Perhaps you should ask the same question to the military, I'm sure they would appreciate that question.

Why do you lock your car doors or your house? What are you compensating for?

How do you defend yourself?

Criminals, gangs, scum you know, bad guys?

Like people downtown who walk by you and yell names at you and think they are all tough in front of their buddies. People who stare at you when you walk around, you know they want to hurt you. People who whisper to each other when you around, they don't want you to hear it. These people are not good people. I think they could hurt me if they got the chance.

I'm not paranoid, just people you can't trust you know. How safe is it in England? Don't you worry about being assaulted or robbed?

what do I need to defend myself from?

Criminals, gangs, scum you know, bad guys?

Like people downtown who walk by you and yell names at you and think they are all tough in front of their buddies. People who stare at you when you walk around, you know they want to hurt you. People who whisper to each other when you around, they don't want you to hear it. These people are not good people. I think they could hurt me if they got the chance.

I'm not paranoid, just people you can't trust you know. How safe is it in England? Don't you worry about being assaulted or robbed?

ShadowMoses900

I bet wherever you live, you think is the best.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

what do I need to defend myself from?

Criminals, gangs, scum you know, bad guys?

Like people downtown who walk by you and yell names at you and think they are all tough in front of their buddies. People who stare at you when you walk around, you know they want to hurt you. People who whisper to each other when you around, they don't want you to hear it. These people are not good people. I think they could hurt me if they got the chance.

I'm not paranoid, just people you can't trust you know. How safe is it in England? Don't you worry about being assaulted or robbed?

toast_burner

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

what do I need to defend myself from?

Criminals, gangs, scum you know, bad guys?

Like people downtown who walk by you and yell names at you and think they are all tough in front of their buddies. People who stare at you when you walk around, you know they want to hurt you. People who whisper to each other when you around, they don't want you to hear it. These people are not good people. I think they could hurt me if they got the chance.

I'm not paranoid, just people you can't trust you know. How safe is it in England? Don't you worry about being assaulted or robbed?

toast_burner

Well you probably had a safer child hood then I did. But I gew up around bad people, it affects how you grow up. I'm much better now though, I've become to realise most of it is in my head and there is no real threat. But sometimes I still wonder....

Still doesn't change the fact that there are bad people out there, what would you do if you got approached by multiple guys one day and they surrounded you? How are you going to get out of that alive? If you had a gun you could kill them and defend yourself.

Or what if someone broke into your home? You wouldn't let them hurt your family would you?

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]lol, what are you compensating for?

ShadowMoses900

Self Defense means over compensating? Ok? Perhaps you should ask the same question to the military, I'm sure they would appreciate that question.

Why do you lock your car doors or your house? What are you compensating for?

How do you defend yourself?

Criminals, gangs, scum you know, bad guys?

Like people downtown who walk by you and yell names at you and think they are all tough in front of their buddies. People who stare at you when you walk around, you know they want to hurt you. People who whisper to each other when you around, they don't want you to hear it. These people are not good people. I think they could hurt me if they got the chance.

I'm not paranoid, just people you can't trust you know. How safe is it in England? Don't you worry about being assaulted or robbed?

sounds like high school

To be fair, after weighing all arguements and counter arguements and after cross examining the available evidence, I find this location to be the superior country.

It's called Sealand and it even has it's own flag and a population of 4. It boasts a modest economy with a GDP of $600,000, it's own currency and royalty and soon will have it's own casino. If we ignore the fact it's not TECHNICALLY a country...yet.

tomo90

:lol:

Why haven't I heard of it before?

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Self Defense means over compensating? Ok? Perhaps you should ask the same question to the military, I'm sure they would appreciate that question.

Why do you lock your car doors or your house? What are you compensating for?

How do you defend yourself?

Aljosa23

Criminals, gangs, scum you know, bad guys?

Like people downtown who walk by you and yell names at you and think they are all tough in front of their buddies. People who stare at you when you walk around, you know they want to hurt you. People who whisper to each other when you around, they don't want you to hear it. These people are not good people. I think they could hurt me if they got the chance.

I'm not paranoid, just people you can't trust you know. How safe is it in England? Don't you worry about being assaulted or robbed?

sounds like high school

Umm....no lol. There are good areas and bad areas of town, and in bad areas you would know what I'm talking about. It's best to avoid them compltetly which is what I do, but I used to work in one of those areas and it was terrible, I didn't feel safe at all.

It's an even battle, although the UK may just have the edge by virtue of pickled onion monster munch.

UK is too kind... that's the problem, immigrants come here and simply take advantage and as a punishment get a third of what they deserve and only actually serve half of it, we have human rights law and it sucks, murderers get 10 years in a comfortable room with TVs and a hot meal.JohnF111

much much much much much much much much lower homicide rate compared to the US

Again, the US has nothing to lecture on the criminal law sentencing department, most people in the world locked up, highest percentage of people locked up, one of the highest recidivism rate, and highest homicide rate across all developed nations, those come together like a neat little package.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="OmenUK"]


I'd guess that it may be so high in Australia due to all the rural towns and the fact that they're prone to local wildlife attacks so may be incidents of people accidentally getting shot added on to what would be otherwise low figures.

OmenUK

Australia and UK are neck to neck in term of total homicide rate, no reason to assume their crime rate is higher than UK

Perhaps just homicide involving guns, that category is higher in Australia.

If you guys are worried about homicide rates you should move to Japan or Singapore asap.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Americans have higher disposable incomes. You mad Brits?

Storm_Marine

All I know is that the US has better shopping than Canada.

I have to say this is true, especially fashion labels, so much cheaper and so much better selection in US

It's an even battle, although the UK may just have the edge by virtue of pickled onion monster munch.

poptart

Agreed!

If you guys are worried about homicide rates you should move to Japan or Singapore asap.

Storm_Marine

Singapore is a repressive country, a police state, the government actually arrest people writting book questioning the death penalty. The government commits homicide agaisnt drug addicts all the time, I consider executing people for possession of small amount of drugs government murder.

Japan has a rising violent crime problem in youth as well, and the living condition is not that ideal, but overall, I can picture living there, much rather there than Singapore anyway.

Overall I guess UK is a pretty good place to go. Crime rates arn't bad overall and anti Semitism isn't really there (sure there may be a few bad people, but that's everywhere).

I guess I will consider travel plans to go there. But I gotta find out where to go, best places and whatnot. I want to see REAL England, not tourist, but someone who wants to learn.

This thread is redundant anyway; every country in the world is inferior to Finland. Ninja-Hippo

Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I want to be,
Pony trekking or camping,
Or just watching TV.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
It's the country for me.

You're so near to Russia,
So far from Japan,
Quite a long way from Cairo,
Lots of miles from Vietnam.

Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I want to be,
Eating breakfast or dinner,
Or snack lunch in the hall.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.

You're so sadly neglected
And often ignored,
A poor second to Belgium,
When going abroad.

Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I quite want to be,
Your mountains so lofty,
Your treetops so tall.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.

Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I quite want to be,
Your mountains so lofty,
Your treetops so tall.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.

Finland has it all.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]lol what a terrible post

Aljosa23

he's got a point, but the UK isn't that much better.

London, NYC, Paris, HK, Tokyo etc Tops the world in shopping, US and UK are really among the best.

This thread is redundant anyway; every country in the world is inferior to Finland. Ninja-Hippo

yeah yeah, if it has a lower crime rate, sure.

[QUOTE="OmenUK"]

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]You were responding to the third sentence and not the second, right? You wouldn't mix up Austria and Australia, riiight?

Ncsoftlover

Australia and UK are neck to neck in term of total homicide rate, no reason to assume their crime rate is higher than UK

Perhaps just homicide involving guns, that category is higher in Australia.

Overall I guess UK is a pretty good place to go. Crime rates arn't bad overall and anti Semitism isn't really there (sure there may be a few bad people, but that's everywhere).

I guess I will consider travel plans to go there. But I gotta find out where to go, best places and whatnot. I want to see REAL England, not tourist, but someone who wants to learn.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]This thread is redundant anyway; every country in the world is inferior to Canada. Aljosa23

I agree!

I can find countries that are better than Canada in different minor aspects, but considering all factors, I truly think every country is inferior to Canada.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]This thread is redundant anyway; every country in the world is inferior to Canada. Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

If you guys are worried about homicide rates you should move to Japan or Singapore asap.

Ncsoftlover

Singapore is a repressive country, a police state,

I know it's got some strict laws, even in trivial matters. But calling it a police state is a little extreme.

And I feel perfectly safe walking around it at night. Something I can't say about comparable North American and European cities.

[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

If you guys are worried about homicide rates you should move to Japan or Singapore asap.

Storm_Marine

Singapore is a repressive country, a police state,

I know it's got some strict laws, even in trivial matters. But calling it a police state is a little extreme.

And I feel perfectly safe walking around it at night. Something I can't say about comparable North American and European cities.

Well being gay is illegal in singapore, even though they don't enforce the law, the seals the deal for me.

Singapore's lower crime rate is not so much related for the draconian laws, Malaysia has it worse, it has more to do with their being in a nicer location, relatively rich, low gap between rich and poor, and 5 million in a small dense area, much easier to police.

The countries' anti expression, it has a big punishment culture starting from elementary school, self claimed "family conservative values", highest execution rate in the world in the 90's for crimes like possessing some marijuana, lack of democracy and lack of freedom of press/speech, etc etc , just not my kind of place, I guess if the only thing a person cares about is crime rate, they can consider moving to Singapore.

But because singapore government is not that open about their crime rate statistics, there's actually no reason to assume that they have that low of a crime rate, just because people "feel" safe, that could be very much an illusion, when the government is not allowing media to be complete open about it.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]This thread is redundant anyway; every country in the world is inferior to Finland. OmenUK

Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I want to be,
Pony trekking or camping,
Or just watching TV.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
It's the country for me.

You're so near to Russia,
So far from Japan,
Quite a long way from Cairo,
Lots of miles from Vietnam.

Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I want to be,
Eating breakfast or dinner,
Or snack lunch in the hall.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.

You're so sadly neglected
And often ignored,
A poor second to Belgium,
When going abroad.

Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I quite want to be,
Your mountains so lofty,
Your treetops so tall.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.

Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I quite want to be,
Your mountains so lofty,
Your treetops so tall.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.

Finland has it all.

Nah, Israel is better.

Hava Nagila FTW!

ISRAEL - Hava Nagila - YouTube

America 1st best, Israel 2nd best.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]This thread is redundant anyway; every country in the world is inferior to Canada. OmenUK

I find Justin bieber a pretty good young teen role model, and Celine for being a very nice person, and a good vocalist.

Remember, none of them can become who they are without the American fans/audiences.

Hava Nagila FTW!

ShadowMoses900

Hava Nagila? Can I have two and save one for later?

America 1st best, Israel 2nd best.

ShadowMoses900