Thugs try to ambush pizza man - one gets shot and dies

I say good, the Pizza man had every right to defend himself. My only problem is the news is sympathetic towards the thugs - talking about how they were honor students, helped the crippled, deaf and blind senior citizens cross the road, as well as having lofty and noble goals for their future

We need to get rid of the disease that affects mankind.

http://www.thestate.com/local/story/708475.html

Top, left to right: Jason Todd Beckham, Carlos Renard Dates; bottom: Justin Towan Roundtree

Sturgill, Jr.

Yay for the Pizza man. This is why I'm all for concealed weapons permits. I have one myself.

I am sorry, no one desserves to die for such a pathetic reason. the pizza man should have given them the pizza and continued on.

Yay for the Pizza man. This is why I'm all for concealed weapons permits. I have one myself.

br0kenrabbit

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Yay for the Pizza man. This is why I'm all for concealed weapons permits. I have one myself.

jfcundiff

Quote from the article:

"This sends a loud message to the criminal element - you don't know who's going to be armed and who's not going to be armed when you go to rob someone."

You should always be armed.

I am sorry, no one desserves to die for such a pathetic reason. the pizza man should have given them the pizza and continued on.

RiseAgainst12

According to the story, the Pizza Man was retreating and still beaing beat. He had every right to defend himself by whatever means.

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Yay for the Pizza man. This is why I'm all for concealed weapons permits. I have one myself.

Quote from the article:

"This sends a loud message to the criminal element - you don't know who's going to be armed and who's not going to be armed when you go to rob someone."

You should always be armed.

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]

I am sorry, no one desserves to die for such a pathetic reason. the pizza man should have given them the pizza and continued on.

According to the story, the Pizza Man was retreating and still beaing beat. He had every right to defend himself by whatever means.

I am sorry, no one desserves to die for such a pathetic reason. the pizza man should have given them the pizza and continued on.

RiseAgainst12

"Hey Buddy! You touched my stuff you ****"

"Hey dude! I'm not your buddy!"

"Hey Mac! I'm not your dude!"

*someone pulls out a gun*

*someone gets injured or dies* atleast I think that is what America is like. Unless TV is lying to us :o

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]

I am sorry, no one desserves to die for such a pathetic reason. the pizza man should have given them the pizza and continued on.

RiseAgainst12

According to the story, the Pizza Man was retreating and still beaing beat. He had every right to defend himself by whatever means.

And free pizza isn't an excuse the attack someone. It's the dead guys fault he's dead. Should have had a better head on his shoulders.

I will likely get one in the future as well. jfcundiff

Quote from the article:

"This sends a loud message to the criminal element - you don't know who's going to be armed and who's not going to be armed when you go to rob someone."

You should always be armed.

You should always be armed.

AHUGECAT

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]

I am sorry, no one desserves to die for such a pathetic reason. the pizza man should have given them the pizza and continued on.

"Hey Buddy! You touched my stuff you ****"

"Hey dude! I'm not your buddy!"

"Hey Mac! I'm not your dude!"

*someone pulls out a gun*

Killing someone is never fully justified. He did have the right to defend himself though...

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]

I am sorry, no one desserves to die for such a pathetic reason. the pizza man should have given them the pizza and continued on.

"Hey Buddy! You touched my stuff you ****"

"Hey dude! I'm not your buddy!"

"Hey Mac! I'm not your dude!"

*someone pulls out a gun*

*someone gets injured or dies* atleast I think that is what America is like. Unless TV is lying to us :o

pfft grow a set, fight with what god give us.RiseAgainst12

4 teenagers ganging up on a 43 year old man isn't what god gave us.

Killing someone is never fully justified. He did have the right to defend himself though...

Papitar

When someone is beating you, has a few of their friends about to join in, and when you retreat and they still attack, you have every right to blow their brains out.

Well, he'll probably get fired from his job, but at the same time, if he had enough space, just drawing out the weapon would have sent the signal. However, I also find it interesting that it took half an hour for paramedics to arrive.

Initial checks on the young men's backgrounds indicate — apart from the possible gang connection — all had good records, Metts said.

:lol:

He didn't get killed because he was trying to steal something, he got killed because he ambushed someone. Big difference.

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"] no, not by killing someone. i am sorry but this is not an acceptable excuse for killing someone.br0kenrabbit

And free pizza isn't an excuse the attack someone. It's the dead guys fault he's dead. Should have had a better head on his shoulders.

The media is actually sympathizing with the thugs? :lol: Oh yeah guys, 4 able bodied thugs picking on an old man that they suspected to be harmless end up getting their asses handed to them are real heroes to the state! Yeesh, I'm just hoping this will send a message to idiotic teens/young adults everywhere.Setsa

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]pfft grow a set, fight with what god give us.AHUGECAT

4 teenagers ganging up on a 43 year old man isn't what god gave us.

[QUOTE="Papitar"]

Killing someone is never fully justified. He did have the right to defend himself though...

AHUGECAT

When someone is beating you, has a few of their friends about to join in, and when you retreat and they still attack, you have every right to blow their brains out.

Meh. No you don't. Why not just shoot them in the leg or something to scare them off. I seriously don't understand your logic.

I am sorry but i strongly disagree. RiseAgainst12

Doesn't matter, the law agrees with me.

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]

And free pizza isn't an excuse the attack someone. It's the dead guys fault he's dead. Should have had a better head on his shoulders.

The media is actually sympathizing with the thugs? :lol: Oh yeah guys, 4 able bodied thugs picking on an old man that they suspected to be harmless end up getting their asses handed to them are real heroes to the state! Yeesh, I'm just hoping this will send a message to idiotic teens/young adults everywhere.Setsa

[QUOTE="Papitar"]

Killing someone is never fully justified. He did have the right to defend himself though...

AHUGECAT

When someone is beating you, has a few of their friends about to join in, and when you retreat and they still attack, you have every right to blow their brains out.

I don't know what's worse: that they decided to steal a pizza of all things, or that they died as a result of it.

It's an unfortunate incident, but this Miller appears to have acted in self-defense. There is nothing wrong with that.

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]pfft grow a set, fight with what god give us.AHUGECAT

4 teenagers ganging up on a 43 year old man isn't what god gave us.

[QUOTE="Papitar"]

Killing someone is never fully justified. He did have the right to defend himself though...

When someone is beating you, has a few of their friends about to join in, and when you retreat and they still attack, you have every right to blow their brains out.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Papitar"]

Killing someone is never fully justified. He did have the right to defend himself though...

RiseAgainst12

When someone is beating you, has a few of their friends about to join in, and when you retreat and they still attack, you have every right to blow their brains out.

finally someone who's making some sense.

The media is actually sympathizing with the thugs? :lol: Oh yeah guys, 4 able bodied thugs picking on an old man that they suspected to be harmless end up getting their asses handed to them are real heroes to the state! Yeesh, I'm just hoping this will send a message to idiotic teens/young adults everywhere.Setsa

I don't know what's worse: that they decided to steal a pizza of all things, or that they died as a result of it.

GabuEx

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"] They didn't get there asses handed to them. one was murdered in cold blood by a cowardly old man in fact.Papitar

Defending yourself does not equal killing someone you retard....

Initial checks on the young men's backgrounds indicate - apart from the possible gang connection - all had good records, Metts said.

:lol:

-Makaveli-

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Papitar"]

Killing someone is never fully justified. He did have the right to defend himself though...

RiseAgainst12

When someone is beating you, has a few of their friends about to join in, and when you retreat and they still attack, you have every right to blow their brains out.

Oh well his life is gone. Whether it's cowardly or not doesn't matter. We got rid of a criminal thug - good.

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]

Initial checks on the young men's backgrounds indicate - apart from the possible gang connection - all had good records, Metts said.

:lol:

ElZilcho90

Nah, it's pretty much full of them already...

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"] They didn't get there asses handed to them. one was murdered in cold blood by a cowardly old man in fact.Papitar

Defending yourself does not equal killing someone you retard....

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]

I am sorry, no one desserves to die for such a pathetic reason. the pizza man should have given them the pizza and continued on.

According to the story, the Pizza Man was retreating and still beaing beat. He had every right to defend himself by whatever means.

"Some people should die, that's just unconcious knowledge"

Cookies if you know where that's from.

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

When someone is beating you, has a few of their friends about to join in, and when you retreat and they still attack, you have every right to blow their brains out.

Papitar

finally someone who's making some sense.

I would have shot too. How do I fight four guys at once? By shooting. He picked his best chance to survive.

Some may say getting killed over a pizza isn't justified. Getting killed for a pizza and change should never happen to anyone.

Remember these guys ambushed him. So who's in the wrong?

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I don't know what's worse: that they decided to steal a pizza of all things, or that they died as a result of it.

SkyWard20

Right, but still. "He was killed trying to steal a pizza"? That's pretty much the worst thing anyone could possibly have on their record. :P