Thugs try to ambush pizza man - one gets shot and dies

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Yeh. I'm back. OT didin't have any other threads worth posting in.

Anyway. Has anyone heard of a warning shot? Apparently not. You can do it while you run you know.

Yeah he gave him a warning shot - right in the chest. It warned his 3 other "friends" to stay the heck away.

I did mean that you could shoot in the air/ground. Even that is too hard apparently. Anyway, these threads never go anywhere. As I said earlier, best OT topic atm. Kinda sad.

Why are you all so damn triggerhappy? Guns give people way too much power to be played around with like that.

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"][QUOTE="Setsa"] Can I mug you?Setsa

and when you're down on the ground, and dizzy from your beating you will be vulnerable to all kinds of abuse beyond theivery.

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Yeah he gave him a warning shot - right in the chest. It warned his 3 other "friends" to stay the heck away.

hughami

I did mean that you could shoot in the air/ground. Even that is too hard apparently. Anyway, these threads never go anywhere. As I said earlier, best OT topic atm. Kinda sad.

Why are you all so damn triggerhappy? Guns give people way too much power to be played around with like that.

Hah. You sound like you're handicapped without a gun. Run away, use pepperspray, learn selfdefense whatever, just don't shoot the guy...

And guns are banned here, this is one of the worlds safest countries. Sure there are some drunkards always fighting, but people don't ****ing shoot them cause of it - they either fight back, run away, or yes, get beat up. Grow some.

This isin't about guns good or not. It's about killing. Keep your guns, just use them more responsibly.

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Defending yourself does not equal killing someone you retard....

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Ugh, stop being so black and white. You don't have to choose between letting the guy go or killing him. Seriously. And if you do shoot at him, don't kill him! You can immobilize the criminal or something and wait for the police. Just because someone steals or tries to hit you does not mean you have the right to kill him. Learn some values...

Do you really think it is that easy? When you are in a fight with 4 people trying to rob and beat you up thinking always dosen't happen. Oh well he died. An idot to try and rob him too.

Hah. You sound like you're handicapped without a gun. Run away, use pepperspray, learn selfdefense whatever, just don't shoot the guy...

And guns are banned here, this is one of the worlds safest countries. Sure there are some drunkards always fighting, but people don't ****ing shoot them cause of it - they either fight back, run away, or yes, get beat up. Grow some.

This isin't about guns good or not. It's about killing. Keep your guns, just use them more responsibly.

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being and old man against 4 young men IS being handicapped.... you think the old fart is gonna bust out bruce lee moves?

and you're country aint america bud, you have no guns because you're country is safe not the other way around

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"] Oh wait when someone decides to rob my house, rape my wife, and take stuff, I will let them go ahead next time. If it is a serious situation between life or death, and my life is at stake because of some criminal and I have a weapon, I am taking that person out before they have a chance to do serious harm to me. And do not start name calling. Omni-Wrath

Ugh, stop being so black and white. You don't have to choose between letting the guy go or killing him. Seriously. And if you do shoot at him, don't kill him! You can immobilize the criminal or something and wait for the police. Just because someone steals or tries to hit you does not mean you have the right to kill him. Learn some values...

Do you really think it is that easy? When you are in a fight with 4 people trying to rob and beat you up thinking always dosen't happen. Oh well he died. An idot to try and rob him too.

Lol, people are ganging up on me.

Listen, I'm the one who said it isin't easy. I'm the one who said the stop looking at stuff so black and white. He also mentioned something about a break in, rape and other stuff, which are not the topic here atm.

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I did mean that you could shoot in the air/ground. Even that is too hard apparently. Anyway, these threads never go anywhere. As I said earlier, best OT topic atm. Kinda sad.

Why are you all so damn triggerhappy? Guns give people way too much power to be played around with like that.

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Hah. You sound like you're handicapped without a gun. Run away, use pepperspray, learn selfdefense whatever, just don't shoot the guy...

And guns are banned here, this is one of the worlds safest countries. Sure there are some drunkards always fighting, but people don't ****ing shoot them cause of it - they either fight back, run away, or yes, get beat up. Grow some.

This isin't about guns good or not. It's about killing. Keep your guns, just use them more responsibly.

Well America has a high crime rate which is why we need guns. And run away? The man tried that and all they did was chase him and beat him up more. Pepper spray? Lmfao....

Okay, to all the people saying he "shouldn't killed the young man: He didn't actually try to kill him!!!! It was the heat of the moment sort of thing, and he just happened to score a lucky shot causing the stupid kid to die (which he deserved - IMHO). He was running away, being beaten up, so he whips out his pistol and fires a few rounds. LIKE HE ACTUALLY AIMED OR PLANNED TO USE IT. Use some common sense people.cpo335

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I did mean that you could shoot in the air/ground. Even that is too hard apparently. Anyway, these threads never go anywhere. As I said earlier, best OT topic atm. Kinda sad.

Why are you all so damn triggerhappy? Guns give people way too much power to be played around with like that.

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Hah. You sound like you're handicapped without a gun. Run away, use pepperspray, learn selfdefense whatever, just don't shoot the guy...

And guns are banned here, this is one of the worlds safest countries. Sure there are some drunkards always fighting, but people don't ****ing shoot them cause of it - they either fight back, run away, or yes, get beat up. Grow some.

This isin't about guns good or not. It's about killing. Keep your guns, just use them more responsibly.

Well running away while 4 people are beating you down seems like a great idea. EXCEPT YOU CAN't. He is an Old Man. They are in their early 20's. He shot them and it was either his life or one of their's.

People like you are nonsensical. Make no sense in thinking in a humanitarian way. Please guns defend people. This guy did not know of these thug's intentions.

If you were in the same moment you proabably would have done the same. Espcially if it was 4 people beating you.

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I did mean that you could shoot in the air/ground. Even that is too hard apparently. Anyway, these threads never go anywhere. As I said earlier, best OT topic atm. Kinda sad.

Why are you all so damn triggerhappy? Guns give people way too much power to be played around with like that.

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Hah. You sound like you're handicapped without a gun. Run away, use pepperspray, learn selfdefense whatever, just don't shoot the guy...

And guns are banned here, this is one of the worlds safest countries. Sure there are some drunkards always fighting, but people don't ****ing shoot them cause of it - they either fight back, run away, or yes, get beat up. Grow some.

This isin't about guns good or not. It's about killing. Keep your guns, just use them more responsibly.

Pizza man called the cops immediately after the shooting, that was responsible. I don't think he wanted to kill the boy but he acted in self-defense.. you know.. when you get a massive adrenaline rush and your natural restraint is massively overpowered by fear.. to the point that you would kill.

The paramedics apparently took 30 minutes to arrive at the scene while the boy bled to death. That in my opinion is more worrying than the man taking a shot in self-defense.

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Oh wait when someone decides to rob my house, rape my wife, and take stuff, I will let them go ahead next time. If it is a serious situation between life or death, and my life is at stake because of some criminal and I have a weapon, I am taking that person out before they have a chance to do serious harm to me. And do not start name calling. jfcundiff

Ugh, stop being so black and white. You don't have to choose between letting the guy go or killing him. Seriously. And if you do shoot at him, don't kill him! You can immobilize the criminal or something and wait for the police. Just because someone steals or tries to hit you does not mean you have the right to kill him. Learn some values...

Do you really think it is that easy? When you are in a fight with 4 people trying to rob and beat you up thinking always dosen't happen. Oh well he died. An idot to try and rob him too.

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Hah. You sound like you're handicapped without a gun. Run away, use pepperspray, learn selfdefense whatever, just don't shoot the guy...

And guns are banned here, this is one of the worlds safest countries. Sure there are some drunkards always fighting, but people don't ****ing shoot them cause of it - they either fight back, run away, or yes, get beat up. Grow some.

This isin't about guns good or not. It's about killing. Keep your guns, just use them more responsibly.

Heydanbud92

being and old man against 4 young men IS being handicapped.... you think the old fart is gonna bust out bruce lee moves?

and you're country aint america bud, you have no guns because you're country is safe not the other way around

I'm just saying. If he had the time to shoot two bullets at the assaulters while running away, he had the time to fire warning shots. No one here can deny this. Seriously.

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[QUOTE="hughami"] guns dont kill people, people kill people. trust me, if guns were banned crime will go up. back in england where i was born, guns were banned and crime jumped hella high cuz thugs realized that they wouldnt have to worry too much about resistance from people ;) . ive been shooting guns for 8 years since i was 7, its fun :D ! but i wouldnt go kill someone with it unless in self defense and i wouldnt go to war either. guns are just tools, they arent evil the people killing with them without reason are evil.Tezcatlipoca666

Hah. You sound like you're handicapped without a gun. Run away, use pepperspray, learn selfdefense whatever, just don't shoot the guy...

And guns are banned here, this is one of the worlds safest countries. Sure there are some drunkards always fighting, but people don't ****ing shoot them cause of it - they either fight back, run away, or yes, get beat up. Grow some.

This isin't about guns good or not. It's about killing. Keep your guns, just use them more responsibly.

Pizza man called the cops immediately after the shooting, that was responsible. I don't think he wanted to kill the boy but he acted in self-defense.. you know.. when you get a massive adrenaline rush and your natural restraint is massively overpowered by fear.. to the point that you would kill.

The paramedics apparently took 30 minutes to arrive at the scene while the boy bled to death. That in my opinion is more worrying than the man taking a shot in self-defense.

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[QUOTE="hughami"] guns dont kill people, people kill people. trust me, if guns were banned crime will go up. back in england where i was born, guns were banned and crime jumped hella high cuz thugs realized that they wouldnt have to worry too much about resistance from people ;) . ive been shooting guns for 8 years since i was 7, its fun :D ! but i wouldnt go kill someone with it unless in self defense and i wouldnt go to war either. guns are just tools, they arent evil the people killing with them without reason are evil.Omni-Wrath

Hah. You sound like you're handicapped without a gun. Run away, use pepperspray, learn selfdefense whatever, just don't shoot the guy...

And guns are banned here, this is one of the worlds safest countries. Sure there are some drunkards always fighting, but people don't ****ing shoot them cause of it - they either fight back, run away, or yes, get beat up. Grow some.

This isin't about guns good or not. It's about killing. Keep your guns, just use them more responsibly.

Well running away while 4 people are beating you down seems like a great idea. EXCEPT YOU CAN't. He is an Old Man. They are in their early 20's. He shot them and it was either his life or one of their's.

People like you are nonsensical. Make no sense in thinking in a humanitarian way. Please guns defend people. This guy did not know of these thug's intentions.

If you were in the same moment you proabably would have done the same. Espcially if it was 4 people beating you.

Please read my other posts. I don't want to type stuff again. Meh.

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Hah. You sound like you're handicapped without a gun. Run away, use pepperspray, learn selfdefense whatever, just don't shoot the guy...

And guns are banned here, this is one of the worlds safest countries. Sure there are some drunkards always fighting, but people don't ****ing shoot them cause of it - they either fight back, run away, or yes, get beat up. Grow some.

This isin't about guns good or not. It's about killing. Keep your guns, just use them more responsibly.

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being and old man against 4 young men IS being handicapped.... you think the old fart is gonna bust out bruce lee moves?

and you're country aint america bud, you have no guns because you're country is safe not the other way around

I'm just saying. If he had the time to shoot two bullets at the assaulters while running away, he had the time to fire warning shots. No one here can deny this. Seriously.

Lol, people are ganging up on me. Listen, I'm the one who said it isin't easy. I'm the one who said the stop looking at stuff so black and white. He also mentioned something about a break in, rape and other stuff, which are not the topic here atm.
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Hah. You sound like you're handicapped without a gun. Run away, use pepperspray, learn selfdefense whatever, just don't shoot the guy...

And guns are banned here, this is one of the worlds safest countries. Sure there are some drunkards always fighting, but people don't ****ing shoot them cause of it - they either fight back, run away, or yes, get beat up. Grow some.

This isin't about guns good or not. It's about killing. Keep your guns, just use them more responsibly.

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being and old man against 4 young men IS being handicapped.... you think the old fart is gonna bust out bruce lee moves?

and you're country aint america bud, you have no guns because you're country is safe not the other way around

I'm just saying. If he had the time to shoot two bullets at the assaulters while running away, he had the time to fire warning shots. No one here can deny this. Seriously.

I don't know what's worse: that they decided to steal a pizza of all things, or that they died as a result of it.

GabuEx

Not just any pizza, either. Pizza Hut pizza. Who steals Pizza Hut pizza?

It's sad that a kid had to die, but the guy had a right to defend himself from attack.

Glad the guy getting robbed wasn't killed this time.

Wow... Kid tries to steal pizza, gets shot, dies. Kid sure bit off more than he could chew.

I found it so hilarious that he died because of a pizza.

[QUOTE="Papitar"]Lol, people are ganging up on me. Listen, I'm the one who said it isin't easy. I'm the one who said the stop looking at stuff so black and white. He also mentioned something about a break in, rape and other stuff, which are not the topic here atm.
Tactica1supris3

Amen to that!

the pizza guy was in the right, why should he have to take a beating from some thugs who want a free pizza ? the pizza guy shouldnt have to take the chance not knowing whether or not they were going to kill him first. he didnt know what could happen. also im really unmoved by the whole "good students" story, who cares ? they shouldnt rob and beat people. america is brilliant for the fact of what police are allowed to do and what civilians are allowed to do in order to protect themselves. i applaud the pizza guy.

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I am sorry, no one desserves to die for such a pathetic reason. the pizza man should have given them the pizza and continued on.

RiseAgainst12

According to the story, the Pizza Man was retreating and still beaing beat. He had every right to defend himself by whatever means.

It sucks to die like that. Imagine when one them is an old man and tells his grandson about the time his close friend got shot by the pizza man

Should I say it? Should I... Killzowned!!!!Prydes

Shut up with the Killzone 2 crap already

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I say good for the pizza guy. Everyone responsible enough should have a concealed weapons permit. He's lucky he had a pistol at the time, otherwise it could've been him that died

It sucks to die like that. Imagine when one them is an old man and tells his grandson about the time his close friend got shot by the pizza man

Lief_Ericson

The pizza man had the right to defend himself, yes, but to kill someone? No.AAllxxjjnn

Just one less dumbass in the world IMO.

Good going pizza guy! It's always nice to see people defend themselves in cases like this, and sometimes (not quite this time) their defending themselves can be hillarious (See the surveillance video of the two middle-aged ladies breaking beer bottles over a crooks head:lol:).

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I am sorry, no one desserves to die for such a pathetic reason. the pizza man should have given them the pizza and continued on.

clembo1990

"Hey Buddy! You touched my stuff you ****"

"Hey dude! I'm not your buddy!"

"Hey Mac! I'm not your dude!"

*someone pulls out a gun*

*someone gets injured or dies* atleast I think that is what America is like. Unless TV is lying to us :o

Good, the kid deserved it. You plan an ambush and try to rob someone, while they are fleeing you still attack them, you deserve to be shot ****ing scum like that piss me off.achilles614

I have no sympathy for the kid. It's his own damn fault for getting shot when he was trying to mug someone. I don't care what you're trying to steal, mugging is mugging. And the occupational hazard that comes with mugging is that sometimes you run into a guy you shouldn't have ****ed with who decides to pull out his .50 caliber magnum instead of his wallet. If you don't want to run a risk of dying over something extremely trivial then don't try to rob people, it's as simple as that.

The poor guy's just trying to make a living and the idiot kid dies because he didn't have a brain.

He deserved it.

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Yeh. I'm back. OT didin't have any other threads worth posting in.

Anyway. Has anyone heard of a warning shot? Apparently not. You can do it while you run you know.

Bloodbath_87

I had to LOL at that...

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Guns are not the answer. I personally would not own one considering I'm well capable of handling people without one. Things can and will go wrong and when guns get thrown in the mix, people get hurt or die. The pizza man has a right to defend himself but he could have had a non-lethal deterrant instead. Could have spared a life of a young man who did a stupid thing.

Heydanbud92

they were in this case. and he was an old man, you expect him to be a black belt in ninjitsu?

I am going to need you kids to stop calling a 43 year old an "old man".

What do you expect? A black belt to be 20? With age comes experience.