US soldier goes on rampage in Afghanistan killing 16 innocent civilians

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#1 BossPerson
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17331501

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/11/us-afghanistan-civilians-idUSBRE82A02V20120311?irpc=932

the reuters link claims that this was a group of soldiers

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Foresight, this solider lacked any. Taliban have yet another recuitment tool. Dumbass.

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He should be hanged. [spoiler] inb4 Airshocker says this is justified and he did the right thing [/spoiler]
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[QUOTE="SeventhEntity"]He should be hanged. [spoiler] inb4 Airshocker says this is justified and he did the right thing [/spoiler]

LOL
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And he'll got caught, have a useless trial and will be let go

Been there, done that

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[QUOTE="SeventhEntity"]He should be hanged. [spoiler] inb4 Airshocker says this is justified and he did the right thing [/spoiler]

Does he know better? Airshocker is one of those people that will either make you absolutely in love with the US, or absolutely hate it, with his hardline "with us or against" attitude.
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#7 Mikey132
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*U.S Government goes on rampage in the world killing 16,000 innocent civilians over the last how many decades?*

Can I kill this topic too?

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it was a group of soldiers according to Reuters http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/11/us-afghanistan-civilians-idUSBRE82A02V20120311

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*U.S Government goes on rampage in the world killing 16,000 innocent civilians over the last how many decades?*

Can I kill this topic too?

Mikey132

Everyone has done their fair share of killing innocents, get off your high horse.

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Foresight, this solider lacked any. Taliban have yet another recuitment tool. Dumbass.

Wasdie

It's probably safe to say he lacked more than that.

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#11 mattbbpl
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To quote another commenter from Reuters:

"I guess that's one way to get us out of there."

Our diplomacy efforts in the region aren't going particularly well as of late.
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*U.S Government goes on rampage in the world killing 16,000 innocent civilians over the last how many decades?*

Can I kill this topic too?

Mikey132

That happens when the enemy sets up their base of operations in schools, religious buildings, and hospitals and uses suicide bombers, IEDs, and human shields.

Just a thought.

You're probably one of those who believe that 9/11 should have gone unanswered as well as all of those bombings that happened in Europe in the years after.

Here comes a several pharagraph response saying how America deserved it, or America should never have attacked, or Iraq was a mistake, all laiden with tons of sarcasm, what-ifs, and after the fact opinions from people who like to sit on their high horse and think they are better for calling America out on a forum on the internet.

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#13 Xx_Socrates_xX
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I don't balme him. I would go insane if I was stuck over there too.

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#14 BossPerson
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I don't balme him. I would go insane if I was stuck over there too.

Xx_Socrates_xX
And kill 16 innocent civilians? Can't you go insane on a punching bag or something?
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#15 Xx_Socrates_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"]

I don't balme him. I would go insane if I was stuck over there too.

BossPerson
And kill 16 innocent civilians? Can't you go insane on a punching bag or something?

I wasn't completely serious, but you can't think logically when you go insane like that. You just can't. But I agree that he should still be punished, killing 16 people is terrible.
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That is messed up.

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[QUOTE="Mikey132"]

*U.S Government goes on rampage in the world killing 16,000 innocent civilians over the last how many decades?*

Can I kill this topic too?

Wasdie

That happens when the enemy sets up their base of operations in schools, religious buildings, and hospitals and uses suicide bombers, IEDs, and human shields.

Just a thought.

You're probably one of those who believe that 9/11 should have gone unanswered as well as all of those bombings that happened in Europe in the years after.

Here comes a several pharagraph response saying how America deserved it, or America should never have attacked, or Iraq was a mistake, all laiden with tons of sarcasm, what-ifs, and after the fact opinions from people who like to sit on their high horse and think they are better for calling America out on a forum on the internet.

Let the kid of his ignorant views of what goes on over there.

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#18 LJS9502_basic
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That's a shame.....but then it did say he had a breakdown which is also a shame.
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That's a shame.....but then it did say he had a breakdown which is also a shame.LJS9502_basic
I don't buy that for a second. You can justify anything by saying someone went insane. He left his base walked, around the village, he knew what he was doing.
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#20 Xx_Socrates_xX
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That's a shame.....but then it did say he had a breakdown which is also a shame.BossPerson
I don't buy that for a second. You can justify anything by saying someone went insane. He left his base walked, around the village, he knew what he was doing.

You obviously have not had an emotional breakdown before.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That's a shame.....but then it did say he had a breakdown which is also a shame.BossPerson
I don't buy that for a second. You can justify anything by saying someone went insane. He left his base walked, around the village, he knew what he was doing.

Being insane doesn't mean you don't know what you're doing. To be able to do something like that, you have to be insane.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That's a shame.....but then it did say he had a breakdown which is also a shame.BossPerson
I don't buy that for a second. You can justify anything by saying someone went insane. He left his base walked, around the village, he knew what he was doing.

You can't know that. You're just assuming. The BBC reported that he had a breakdown....so your topic is just another excuse to bash the US by using half truths and lies. Yes...it's a shame that people died. But it's also a shame that the soldier is a casualty as well.
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That's a shame.....but then it did say he had a breakdown which is also a shame.Xx_Socrates_xX
I don't buy that for a second. You can justify anything by saying someone went insane. He left his base walked, around the village, he knew what he was doing.

You obviously have not had an emotional breakdown before.

I've never had one that compels me to kill 16 people. I can justify school shootings, even suicide bombers by saying they had an emotional breakdown.
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]I don't buy that for a second. You can justify anything by saying someone went insane. He left his base walked, around the village, he knew what he was doing.BossPerson
You obviously have not had an emotional breakdown before.

I've never had one that compels me to kill 16 people. I can justify school shootings, even suicide bombers by saying they had an emotional breakdown.

Obvious troll is obvious.
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That's a shame.....but then it did say he had a breakdown which is also a shame.LJS9502_basic
I don't buy that for a second. You can justify anything by saying someone went insane. He left his base walked, around the village, he knew what he was doing.

You can't know that. You're just assuming. The BBC reported that he had a breakdown....so your topic is just another excuse to bash the US by using half truths and lies. Yes...it's a shame that people died. But it's also a shame that the soldier is a casualty as well.

Well the BBC is just saying what the military said. And the military would obviously say the guy had an emotional breakdown. Im not bashing America. Saying that this act is indefensible is bashing America? Really?
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"] You obviously have not had an emotional breakdown before.

I've never had one that compels me to kill 16 people. I can justify school shootings, even suicide bombers by saying they had an emotional breakdown.

Obvious troll is obvious.

C'mon.......Im not even criticizing America in this thread. Im just saying the soldier is a horrible person. If i dont try to defend a murderer who happens to be a US soldier, I'm all of a sudden 'bashing america'
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]I don't buy that for a second. You can justify anything by saying someone went insane. He left his base walked, around the village, he knew what he was doing.BossPerson
You obviously have not had an emotional breakdown before.

I've never had one that compels me to kill 16 people. I can justify school shootings, even suicide bombers by saying they had an emotional breakdown.

I hope you're trolling...

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]I've never had one that compels me to kill 16 people. I can justify school shootings, even suicide bombers by saying they had an emotional breakdown.BossPerson
Obvious troll is obvious.

C'mon.......Im not even criticizing America in this thread. Im just saying the soldier is a horrible person. If i dont try to defend a murderer who happens to be a US soldier, I'm all of a sudden 'bashing america'

Mental incapacity is nothing to be laughing at nor blaming.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]I don't buy that for a second. You can justify anything by saying someone went insane. He left his base walked, around the village, he knew what he was doing.BossPerson
You can't know that. You're just assuming. The BBC reported that he had a breakdown....so your topic is just another excuse to bash the US by using half truths and lies. Yes...it's a shame that people died. But it's also a shame that the soldier is a casualty as well.

Well the BBC is just saying what the military said. And the military would obviously say the guy had an emotional breakdown. Im not bashing America. Saying that this act is indefensible is bashing America? Really?

Saying a mental breakdown is a joke is trolling.
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#30 Xx_Socrates_xX
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You can't know that. You're just assuming. The BBC reported that he had a breakdown....so your topic is just another excuse to bash the US by using half truths and lies. Yes...it's a shame that people died. But it's also a shame that the soldier is a casualty as well.

Well the BBC is just saying what the military said. And the military would obviously say the guy had an emotional breakdown. Im not bashing America. Saying that this act is indefensible is bashing America? Really?

Saying a mental breakdown is a joke is trolling.

Either that or he just doesn't know/remember what it's like.
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Obvious troll is obvious.LJS9502_basic
C'mon.......Im not even criticizing America in this thread. Im just saying the soldier is a horrible person. If i dont try to defend a murderer who happens to be a US soldier, I'm all of a sudden 'bashing america'

Mental incapacity is nothing to be laughing at nor blaming.

Im not laughing at it. So who is to blame here if not the soldier?
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I only read part of the story off of Yahoo and it didn't go into too much detail. It only talked about how the Afghan president condemned the attack and it didn't mention the Soldier having any accomplices.

If he's guilty he needs to be court-martialed and if convicted put away for a long time. I understand that other troops were murdered due to the Koran burnings but that doesn't give him the excuse to execute innocent civilians.

Being deployed can be stressful especially when you have to deal with the Taliban using schools and mosques as bases of operation. But when it comes down to it, US troops have to do the right thing and not resort to revenge.

If that Soldier did what he did because he was mentally ill he needs help. But he still needs to be locked up as well.

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What a fkin terrorist.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]C'mon.......Im not even criticizing America in this thread. Im just saying the soldier is a horrible person. If i dont try to defend a murderer who happens to be a US soldier, I'm all of a sudden 'bashing america'BossPerson
Mental incapacity is nothing to be laughing at nor blaming.

Im not laughing at it. So who is to blame here if not the soldier?

Sometimes things just happen......due to circumstances. Fighting and being a target....watching friends die or become maimed DOES effect the mental stability of people. Or do you know something the psychiatric community doesn't?
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]C'mon.......Im not even criticizing America in this thread. Im just saying the soldier is a horrible person. If i dont try to defend a murderer who happens to be a US soldier, I'm all of a sudden 'bashing america'BossPerson
Mental incapacity is nothing to be laughing at nor blaming.

Im not laughing at it. So who is to blame here if not the soldier?

You don't have to point a finger at someone if something bad happens moron. It was no one's fault.
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What a fkin terrorist.

TehFuneral
No....... he had an 'emotional breakdown'
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I only read part of the story off of Yahoo and it didn't go into too much detail. It only talked about how the Afghan president condemned the attack and it didn't mention the Soldier having any accomplices.

If he's guilty he needs to be court-martialed and if convicted put away for a long time. I understand that other troops were murdered due to the Koran burnings but that doesn't give him the excuse to execute innocent civilians.

Being deployed can be stressful especially when you have to deal with the Taliban using schools and mosques as bases of operation. But when it comes down to it, US troops have to do the right thing and not resort to revenge.

If that Soldier did what he did because he was mentally ill he needs help. But he still needs to be locked up as well.

ad1x2
No he needs treatment......
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What a fkin terrorist.

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Did you read the link?
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Mental incapacity is nothing to be laughing at nor blaming.Xx_Socrates_xX
Im not laughing at it. So who is to blame here if not the soldier?

You don't have to point a finger at someone if something bad happens moron. It was no one's fault.

No one's fault? give me a break........

Look at the lengths you're going to just to rationalize this. What if a afghan who had his whole family killed in a US strike walked onto a military base and killed 15 soldiers? You'd be calling for his head.

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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

What a fkin terrorist.

LJS9502_basic

Did you read the link?

Watched the most part of the video and got bored afterwards.

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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]Im not laughing at it. So who is to blame here if not the soldier?BossPerson
You don't have to point a finger at someone if something bad happens moron. It was no one's fault.

No one's fault? give me a break........

What LJ said... It just happened due to the circumstances he was in. Watching all that sh*t. It messes with your head, which wasn't his fault. If you want to be a typical human being and blame someone then blame the Taliban. They're the reason the war started.
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Lynch him or give him the firing range. This is an outrage. I can understand 1 or 2 civilians but 16? Too much..
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[QUOTE="ad1x2"]

I only read part of the story off of Yahoo and it didn't go into too much detail. It only talked about how the Afghan president condemned the attack and it didn't mention the Soldier having any accomplices.

If he's guilty he needs to be court-martialed and if convicted put away for a long time. I understand that other troops were murdered due to the Koran burnings but that doesn't give him the excuse to execute innocent civilians.

Being deployed can be stressful especially when you have to deal with the Taliban using schools and mosques as bases of operation. But when it comes down to it, US troops have to do the right thing and not resort to revenge.

If that Soldier did what he did because he was mentally ill he needs help. But he still needs to be locked up as well.

LJS9502_basic

No he needs treatment......

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I meant treatment when I said he needed help if he was mentally ill. If he's being treated for mental illness he would most likely still be locked up somewhere but just not with the general population at Fort Leavenworth.

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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"] You don't have to point a finger at someone if something bad happens moron. It was no one's fault.

No one's fault? give me a break........

What LJ said... It just happened due to the circumstances he was in. Watching all that sh*t. It messes with your head, which wasn't his fault. If you want to be a typical human being and blame someone then blame the Taliban. They're the reason the war started.

What if a afghan man who lost his whole family in a US strike walked onto a base and killed 15 soldiers? Is it not his fault?
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]Im not laughing at it. So who is to blame here if not the soldier?BossPerson

You don't have to point a finger at someone if something bad happens moron. It was no one's fault.

No one's fault? give me a break........

Look at the lengths you're going to just to rationalize this. What if a afghan who had his whole family killed in a US strike walked onto a military base and killed 15 soldiers? You'd be calling for his head.

No one is rationalizing it. Look at the lengths you're going to in order to blame someone. Sometimes the actor is a victim as well. And justice should ALWAYS be tempered with mercy.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

What a fkin terrorist.

TehFuneral

Did you read the link?

Watched the most part of the video and got bored afterwards.

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#48 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]No one's fault? give me a break........

Look at the lengths you're going to just to rationalize this. What if a afghan who had his whole family killed in a US strike walked onto a military base and killed 15 soldiers? You'd be calling for his head.

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No one is rationalizing it. Look at the lengths you're going to in order to blame someone. Sometimes the actor is a victim as well. And justice should ALWAYS be tempered with mercy.

Funny, all the conservatives of OT suddenly turn into libs when something happens to one of their own.....

Who are these conservatives?

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#49 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No one is rationalizing it. Look at the lengths you're going to in order to blame someone. Sometimes the actor is a victim as well. And justice should ALWAYS be tempered with mercy.LJS9502_basic

Funny, all the conservatives of OT suddenly turn into libs when something happens to one of their own.....

Who are these conservatives?

My mistake, I said something stupid, I deleted the post
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#50 SeventhEntity
Member since 2011 • 378 Posts
I think the military should start banning soldiers to venture outside bases with firearms alone.