USA VS England,which is better?

[QUOTE="Chicken453"]England! 1: Because western Europe excluding Spain, is a lot less racist then the US, also being able to hop from England, to Belgium, to Denmark, to Italy is amazing. 2: More variety of people and languages, I have friends in Belgium, Spain, Italy, Denmark, Portugal, Lithuania just through being able to go to those places so much. 3: Family reasons (personal reason), A big chunk of my family are from Portugal so living in England makes it easy to visit, which can be said for anyone with family in europe. LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Chicken453"]England! 1: Because western Europe excluding Spain, is a lot less racist then the US, also being able to hop from England, to Belgium, to Denmark, to Italy is amazing. 2: More variety of people and languages, I have friends in Belgium, Spain, Italy, Denmark, Portugal, Lithuania just through being able to go to those places so much. 3: Family reasons (personal reason), A big chunk of my family are from Portugal so living in England makes it easy to visit, which can be said for anyone with family in europe. Chicken453

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]England has the population of one of our statesBarbariser

Wrong.

[QUOTE="villa4europe"]

[QUOTE="ThePoliteArtist"]

England is just the US with more chavs and less quirkiness.

Pirate700

and the US is basically england with more fat people, guns and religous nutters

[QUOTE="Chicken453"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] From what I've observed England is more racist than the US. US has more variety in the one country than England does. No travel necessary.LJS9502_basic

No seats in parliament. 1.9% of the votes in the last general election.

[QUOTE="Barbariser"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]England has the population of one of our statesPirate700

Wrong.

If you wanted to make your point, all you'd have to do is say "There are five Americans for every Brit". "Two U.S. states have the same population as the U.K." sounds very impressive until you remember that these are by far the most populous states in the U.S.A. and so the statement becomes utterly meaningless.

USA kicked England's ass in 1775, so USA I guess?cslayer211

[QUOTE="villa4europe"]

said it on here so many times, i really dont see where this bad food idea comes from, we have amazing food

as for which is better, its not really a fair comparison, the states is basically a continent and has far more to offer in terms of variance and things to see/do

but for our little island to have such a great standing in the world IMO is a great accomplishment

LJS9502_basic

So you wouldnt want to eat this?:P

The only real war between The British Empire (GB back then) and the United States, the Brits ending up burning down your capital city and the white house

Thus, we came to your country, burnt your rulers house and tore your military to pieces.

Britain: 1

USA: 0

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Chicken453"]England! 1: Because western Europe excluding Spain, is a lot less racist then the US, also being able to hop from England, to Belgium, to Denmark, to Italy is amazing. 2: More variety of people and languages, I have friends in Belgium, Spain, Italy, Denmark, Portugal, Lithuania just through being able to go to those places so much. 3: Family reasons (personal reason), A big chunk of my family are from Portugal so living in England makes it easy to visit, which can be said for anyone with family in europe. Chicken453

Classic British country food is pretty good. The rest looks disgusting.

Honestly it depends what you like. For scenery america is by far the better place, when I went on a travel/holiday, some of the sites you guys have are just crazy good. However the poverty (specially in san fransico) was horrible, like literally its depressing that you have such a wealthy powerful country and there are people dead on the streets (most extreme case I saw).

However I think if you are succesful, then America is the place to be, there seems to be a more welcoming persona from americans. Everyone likes to help out, the weather (again I guess for the californian area) is vastly better, there are more things to do and see.

The only problem is that I think in america you can become quite detached to the outside world. Maybe thats because I am used to england and its so much smaller in everything, but like when I went on a trip to yosemeite national park (sorry if I spelt that wrong), there were just random houses in the middle of nowhere. There are isolateed towns where it would appear impossible to escape from.

Classic British country food is pretty good. The rest looks disgusting.

Pirate700

Britain's probably the one of the worst western nations....and certainly one of the poorer ones if GDP per capita PPP is anything to go by.

Storm_Marine

Honestly it depends what you like. For scenery america is by far the better place, when I went on a travel/holiday, some of the sites you guys have are just crazy good. However the poverty (specially in san fransico) was horrible, like literally its depressing that you have such a wealthy powerful country and there are people dead on the streets (most extreme case I saw).

However I think if you are succesful, then America is the place to be, there seems to be a more welcoming persona from americans. Everyone likes to help out, the weather (again I guess for the californian area) is vastly better, there are more things to do and see.

The only problem is that I think in america you can become quite detached to the outside world. Maybe thats because I am used to england and its so much smaller in everything, but like when I went on a trip to yosemeite national park (sorry if I spelt that wrong), there were just random houses in the middle of nowhere. There are isolateed towns where it would appear impossible to escape from.

o0squishy0o

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Classic British country food is pretty good. The rest looks disgusting.

o0squishy0o

USA or England eh... Mmmm... Neither!


SCOTLAND ALL THE WAY! :cool:

To answer TC's question completely unbiased, I would say both the US and UK make a great argument, here's the comparison:

In terms of sports performance, military power, science & technology, business, Forbes 2000 companies, amount of billionaires, amount of millionaires, air force, GDP, finance, standard of living, purchasing power, exports, imports, and pretty much every other factor.

in the "modern era" say the 90s until 2012 the USA wins and is the greatest country in the world right now, with the UK in second, and Japan / Germany behind them.

If we look at it from histrorical terms, especially the century dedicated to Britain; the 1800s post-Napoleon and pre- German revolution the British Empire stood once behind around 50% of the world's production and their naval fleet was so vast and powerful their military force was estimated to be equal to up to 70% of the rest of the worlds, or around 2 USA's today.

I'd say the greatest civilizations of all time are:

1. the British (modern day Britain; peak = victorian era British Empire)

2. the Romans (modern day Italy; peak = Roman Empire during first few centuries post A.D.)

3. the French (modern day France; peak = Second French Empire)

Nominees: The Chinese civilization that's been great for thousands of years, the ancient greeks who dominated before the Romans came, The Spanish who once had a vast empire almost as big as Britain's, and the Germans and Americans.

So historically, due to hundreds of years of military dominance, economic dominance, the world's largest empire, putting down large empires (like netherlands) the most succesful military history, a role model in politics, the greatest literature of all time, the greatest revolution in human history, the industrial revolution thanks partly to two different British inventions; Spinny Jenny and the steam engine. Before that Britain was equal to around 2% of the world's production, 100 years later they were behind 50% of it!, a single "tiny nation". That also led to one of the reasons why Britain could have a military so powerful it could take on the rest of the world and win.

TL;DR:

now = USA

all time = Britain

Why must one be better than the other?

USA is a dumbed down version of England.

USA is a dumbed down version of England.

cfstar

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Chicken453"] Well you're wrong, by a big big margin. Don't think because you've read a few articles on racism in England that it's a common thing that happens all the time because it's not at all. The reason I said US was more racist because the first time i ever encountered racism was when i was 14 and in America, I honestly never had experience my skin colour as a problem to people in England or any where in the EU.ThePoliteArtist

No seats in parliament. 1.9% of the votes in the last general election.

[QUOTE="cfstar"]

USA is a dumbed down version of England.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Classic British country food is pretty good. The rest looks disgusting.

o0squishy0o

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Classic British country food is pretty good. The rest looks disgusting.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="ThePoliteArtist"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] BNP I believe it's called....LJS9502_basic

No seats in parliament. 1.9% of the votes in the last general election.

I think you misunderstand what the word "common" means.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ThePoliteArtist"]

No seats in parliament. 1.9% of the votes in the last general election.

toast_burner

I think you misunderstand what the word "common" means.

I guess the US by a bit. Only thing England has over it is history and culture. Would never want to live in either, though.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And? It exists and there is some support for it......LJS9502_basic

I think you misunderstand what the word "common" means.

If the question was "is there racism in England" then you would be correct.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

I think you misunderstand what the word "common" means.

toast_burner

If the question was "is there racism in England" then you would be correct.

music wise, england wins

music wise, england wins

TheFlush

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

music wise, england wins

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] The discussion was that England isn't racist. Apparently it is. And that you cannot deny.LJS9502_basic

If the question was "is there racism in England" then you would be correct.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]A very small minority represents the entire country?

If the question was "is there racism in England" then you would be correct.

Chicken453

[QUOTE="Chicken453"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And in the US racism is a small minority. Definitely not being promoted by political parties.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Chicken453"] LJS Why are you arguing when you are clearly wrong. Stop changing the debate around, I said the first place I experienced racism was in the US, i haven't said anything about UK not being racist because racism exists everywhere however small. You know nothing about the subject of racism in the UK other then what you have read on the internet. I was just putting out my experiences of living, let me emphasis on the word LIVING in both the US and UK.toast_burner

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And I responded to the point about England being less racist. Your anecdotal evidence is not proof of anything. At no time did I say the US was racism free....but we don't have political parties using racism as a platform. Period. And government having that for a political ideology should make you cringe.LJS9502_basic

Even the monster raving looney party have more credibility than them.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]The BNP are pretty much the Westboro baptist church of England. They are hated by everyone but their own members.

toast_burner

Even the monster raving looney party have more credibility than them.

[QUOTE="cslayer211"]USA kicked England's ass in 1775, so USA I guess?SPYDER0416

Yep, we whupped them

SUCK IT ENGLAND

music wise, england wins

TheFlush

British pop music is AlOT worse than American pop music

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

music wise, england wins

DharmaMember77

British pop music is AlOT worse than American pop music