USA VS England,which is better?

[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

music wise, england wins

toast_burner

British pop music is AlOT worse than American pop music

I wasn't sure if he was just complaining about what comes on the radio and how all modern music is bad etc. But yeah americans are pretty spoiled compared to the atrocity that is British pop.

[QUOTE="champion837"]@iszdope Hmm... This gives me an idea...Iszdope

Leave me be.

Edit: please.

[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="Iszdope"]

Leave me be.

Edit: please.

Iszdope

Yeah, we canno' be friends or something.

It's really for the best. Nothing personal.

Yet.

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

music wise, england wins

DharmaMember77

British pop music is AlOT worse than American pop music

[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

music wise, england wins

Pirate700

British pop music is AlOT worse than American pop music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEXiHsLd9I8

I have never been to England, but I would like to go there someday. However I believe their health system is better than ours, but I think England has sh!tty gun laws, no right to bear arms at all = an automatic fail in my book. People can't even conceal carry in England, what the hell guys? How do you defend yourself?

Also America has more diversity, there are far more immigrants and ethnicitys from all over the world in America than there is England.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

British pop music is AlOT worse than American pop music

DharmaMember77

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEXiHsLd9I8

I have never been to England, but I would like to go there someday. However I believe their health system is better than ours, but I think England has sh!tty gun laws, no right to bear arms at all = an automatic fail in my book. People can't even conceal carry in England, what the hell guys? How do you defend yourself?

Also America has more diversity, there are far more immigrants and ethnicitys from all over the world in America than there is England.

ShadowMoses900

This should help

There's only one way to find out.. FIGHT!

Erm.. toughie. I like England because I live here, and I think USA is a good country and I'd love to go there one day. So for me.. it's a tie!

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

[QUOTE="cslayer211"]USA kicked England's ass in 1775, so USA I guess?Nengo_Flow

Yep, we whupped them

SUCK IT ENGLAND

I have not been to England, and I don't know enough about it to contrast it with the U.S.

[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"][QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Yep, we whupped them

SUCK IT ENGLAND

surrealnumber5

Long time, no see, man.

I have not been to England, and I don't know enough about it to contrast it with the U.S.

coolbeans90

I have never been to England, but I would like to go there someday. However I believe their health system is better than ours, but I think England has sh!tty gun laws, no right to bear arms at all = an automatic fail in my book. People can't even conceal carry in England, what the hell guys? How do you defend yourself?

Also America has more diversity, there are far more immigrants and ethnicitys from all over the world in America than there is England.

ShadowMoses900

How many times have you defended yourself with your conceal fiream?

Why would you want a right to bare arms and why stop at guns?

Do you have statistics to back up your cosmopolitan claims for the USA? I'd have thought the UK was more diverse, per capita.

Really man?

Better in what?

danjammer69

yeah that, in jobs? food? women?

I prefer both, for study UK, for job U.S

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"] you mean United States of France, cuz France pretty much won the war for you guys. Even my history profesors have admitted that.coolbeans90

Long time, no see, man.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I have not been to England, and I don't know enough about it to contrast it with the U.S.

Pirate700

I think the sun is far overrated. Are the wizards good or evil?

Honestly, USA. The English job/economy crisis is even worse than over here. Although I have a thing for British music, Ide much rather live in the USA.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I have not been to England, and I don't know enough about it to contrast it with the U.S.

coolbeans90

I think the sun is far overrated. Are the wizards good or evil?

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I have never been to England, but I would like to go there someday. However I believe their health system is better than ours, but I think England has sh!tty gun laws, no right to bear arms at all = an automatic fail in my book. People can't even conceal carry in England, what the hell guys? How do you defend yourself?

Also America has more diversity, there are far more immigrants and ethnicitys from all over the world in America than there is England.

toast_burner

This should help

In the US, I can own a hand gun, carry it concealed, go the shooting range and fire it off, and purchase rounds for it. I can also modify it if I so choose, with having single action trigger instead of double action. I can fully own the gun and no one can take it from me as long as I am a law abiding citizen.

You cannot do this in the UK. Your right to bear arms is a joke compared to ours.

The English job/economy crisis is even worse than over here.Shmiity

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I have never been to England, but I would like to go there someday. However I believe their health system is better than ours, but I think England has sh!tty gun laws, no right to bear arms at all = an automatic fail in my book. People can't even conceal carry in England, what the hell guys? How do you defend yourself?

Also America has more diversity, there are far more immigrants and ethnicitys from all over the world in America than there is England.

RationalAtheist

How many times have you defended yourself with your conceal fiream?

Why would you want a right to bare arms and why stop at guns?

Do you have statistics to back up your cosmopolitan claims for the USA? I'd have thought the UK was more diverse, per capita.

Isn't England, like, 90% white? It's not even close, man.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I have never been to England, but I would like to go there someday. However I believe their health system is better than ours, but I think England has sh!tty gun laws, no right to bear arms at all = an automatic fail in my book. People can't even conceal carry in England, what the hell guys? How do you defend yourself?

Also America has more diversity, there are far more immigrants and ethnicitys from all over the world in America than there is England.

ShadowMoses900

This should help

In the US, I can own a hand gun, carry it concealed, go the shooting range and fire it off, and purchase rounds for it. I can also modify it if I so choose, with having single action trigger instead of double action. I can fully own the gun and no one can take it from me as long as I am a law abiding citizen.

You cannot do this in the UK. Your right to bear arms is a joke compared to ours.

I think you have no idea what you're talking about.

Isn't England, like, 90% white? It's not even close, man.

coolbeans90

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] historical ponderers are by far the most mentally disabled living people, they some how deem them selves qualified to write fiction as 'history'. A priori observation: if history had not happened as it did, it would be different. it is impossible to know how it would be different as the lack of or addition of a historical event or events would garner completely different actions by the actors, all of whom are not calculable. people tend to make decisions in their life based off of the information they have on hand and not based off of things that they dont know or never existed. surrealnumber5

Long time, no see, man.

I have never been to England, but I would like to go there someday. However I believe their health system is better than ours, but I think England has sh!tty gun laws, no right to bear arms at all = an automatic fail in my book. People can't even conceal carry in England, what the hell guys? How do you defend yourself?

Also America has more diversity, there are far more immigrants and ethnicitys from all over the world in America than there is England.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I have never been to England, but I would like to go there someday. However I believe their health system is better than ours, but I think England has sh!tty gun laws, no right to bear arms at all = an automatic fail in my book. People can't even conceal carry in England, what the hell guys? How do you defend yourself?

Also America has more diversity, there are far more immigrants and ethnicitys from all over the world in America than there is England.

ShadowMoses900

This should help

In the US, I can own a hand gun, carry it concealed, go the shooting range and fire it off, and purchase rounds for it. I can also modify it if I so choose, with having single action trigger instead of double action. I can fully own the gun and no one can take it from me as long as I am a law abiding citizen.

You cannot do this in the UK. Your right to bear arms is a joke compared to ours.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Isn't England, like, 90% white? It's not even close, man.

toast_burner

72% including Hispanics - including millions of Spanish-speaking-only, illegal immigrants that are sometimes somewhat unassimilated - plays plenty into various sorts of diversity. Non-Hispanic whites are about 64% of the population.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I have never been to England, but I would like to go there someday. However I believe their health system is better than ours, but I think England has sh!tty gun laws, no right to bear arms at all = an automatic fail in my book. People can't even conceal carry in England, what the hell guys? How do you defend yourself?

Also America has more diversity, there are far more immigrants and ethnicitys from all over the world in America than there is England.

sexyweapons

We come 18th place in the world. America is 37th

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems

Isn't England, like, 90% white? It's not even close, man.

coolbeans90

There are many different "white" cultures and languages, man. Also:

"London is particularly diverse with about 35% of the population from non-White groups. The largest minority groups are Asian or Asian British (14%) and then Black or Black British (12%). Half of the 1.2 million pupils that attend schools in London are from minority ethnic groups. It is estimated that over 300 languages are spoken in London."

From here

[QUOTE="sexyweapons"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I have never been to England, but I would like to go there someday. However I believe their health system is better than ours, but I think England has sh!tty gun laws, no right to bear arms at all = an automatic fail in my book. People can't even conceal carry in England, what the hell guys? How do you defend yourself?

Also America has more diversity, there are far more immigrants and ethnicitys from all over the world in America than there is England.

toast_burner

We come 18th place in the world. America is 37th

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]We do have the right to bear arms in the uk. It's a very old law that was written back when guns were greatly different to modern guns.

This should help

toast_burner

In the US, I can own a hand gun, carry it concealed, go the shooting range and fire it off, and purchase rounds for it. I can also modify it if I so choose, with having single action trigger instead of double action. I can fully own the gun and no one can take it from me as long as I am a law abiding citizen.

You cannot do this in the UK. Your right to bear arms is a joke compared to ours.

I think you have no idea what you're talking about.

It's not really there, you don't have any real gun rights there. Your countries laws make it next to impossible to own any kind of gun, and handguns (which are essential to self defense) are not allowed at all.

You do not have a right to bear arms, you have a nanny state that tells you that you have no right to protect yourself without their consent.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="sexyweapons"] our health care system is actually pretty sh!t in comparisonMannyDelgado

We come 18th place in the world. America is 37th

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems

This is very true, I think our health care system should be like the NHS. The best way to do this IMO is just to expand medicare to everyone. I will like to go to England to learn about their health care system, and just England in general. I don't believe in being a tourist, I like to see the real side of life of the places I visit, meet real people.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

In the US, I can own a hand gun, carry it concealed, go the shooting range and fire it off, and purchase rounds for it. I can also modify it if I so choose, with having single action trigger instead of double action. I can fully own the gun and no one can take it from me as long as I am a law abiding citizen.

You cannot do this in the UK. Your right to bear arms is a joke compared to ours.

ShadowMoses900

I think you have no idea what you're talking about.

It's not really there, you don't have any real gun rights there. Your countries laws make it next to impossible to own any kind of gun, and handguns (which are essential to self defense) are not allowed at all.

You do not have a right to bear arms, you have a nanny state that tells you that you have no right to protect yourself without their consent.

5 minutes later

>it's not really there

lulz, you suck

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Isn't England, like, 90% white? It's not even close, man.

RationalAtheist

There are many different "white" cultures and languages, man. Also:

"London is particularly diverse with about 35% of the population from non-White groups. The largest minority groups are Asian or Asian British (14%) and then Black or Black British (12%). Half of the 1.2 million pupils that attend schools in London are from minority ethnic groups. It is estimated that over 300 languages are spoken in London."

From here

Yes, and America has had immigrants come from all over that European continent for the past few centuries. The largest single ancestry stands at 15% (Germany). I'd continue, but numbers speak louder than words:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestry_of_the_people_of_the_United_States

^

And that's for the whole country, not a cherry-picked city.

[QUOTE="RationalAtheist"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Isn't England, like, 90% white? It's not even close, man.

coolbeans90

There are many different "white" cultures and languages, man. Also:

"London is particularly diverse with about 35% of the population from non-White groups. The largest minority groups are Asian or Asian British (14%) and then Black or Black British (12%). Half of the 1.2 million pupils that attend schools in London are from minority ethnic groups. It is estimated that over 300 languages are spoken in London."

From here

Yes, and America has had immigrants come from all over that European continent for the past few centuries. The largest single ancestry stands at 15% (Germany). I'd continue, but numbers speak louder than words:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestry_of_the_people_of_the_United_States

^

And that's for the whole country, not a cherry-picked city.

Our health care system is fvcking awful.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]5 minutes ago you said it wasn't there at all, now you're saying it's a joke.

I think you have no idea what you're talking about.

MannyDelgado

It's not really there, you don't have any real gun rights there. Your countries laws make it next to impossible to own any kind of gun, and handguns (which are essential to self defense) are not allowed at all.

You do not have a right to bear arms, you have a nanny state that tells you that you have no right to protect yourself without their consent.

5 minutes later

>it's not really there

lulz, you suck

What an excellent rebuttal, you sure showed me. You should become a lawyer.

Our health care system is fvcking awful.

coolbeans90

[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It's not really there, you don't have any real gun rights there. Your countries laws make it next to impossible to own any kind of gun, and handguns (which are essential to self defense) are not allowed at all.

You do not have a right to bear arms, you have a nanny state that tells you that you have no right to protect yourself without their consent.

ShadowMoses900

5 minutes later

>it's not really there

lulz, you suck

What an excellent rebuttal, you sure showed me. You should become a lawyer.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Our health care system is fvcking awful.

surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Our health care system is fvcking awful.

surrealnumber5

Indeed.

This thread got way too serious.

Yes, and America has had immigrants come from all over that European continent for the past few centuries. The largest single ancestry stands at 15% (Germany). I'd continue, but numbers speak louder than words:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestry_of_the_people_of_the_United_States

And that's for the whole country, not a cherry-picked city.

coolbeans90

I thought we were discussing cultural diversity, rather than ancestry. Meine mutter kommt auf Deutschland, aber ich bin ein Englander. London isn't cherry picked - it is the capital of England and where I live.