Vice-Presidential Debate 2008 Discussion!

The Zen Conclusion

Aside from a select few, all politicians are not fit to control the government. Republican officials suck and Democratic officials suck more. All most Republican officials want is deregulation to get more money from their businesses and most Democrat officials want regulation to get more money from the tax payers for their own purposes. At least the Republican policies free the market a bit more and lessen government influence. That's about the only good thing I can say about them. As for the Democrats, well... I got nothing.

The Zen Conclusion

Aside from a select few, all politicians are not fit to control the government. Republican officials suck and Democratic officials suck more. All most Republican officials want is deregulation to get more money from their businesses and most Democrat officials want regulation to get more money from the tax payers for their own purposes. At least the Republican policies free the market a bit more and lessen government influence. That's about the only good thing I can say about them. As for the Democrats, well... I got nothing.

Zentrenius

Wow, things are neither that simple nor that cut and dry...I suppose you learned politics from a senile vietnam vet.

After watching the re-run of the debate I must say I was right from the part I had seen before: Biden just kept knocking Palin back down everytime she tried gaining ground.

Palin will end up costing Mccain the election. Anyone with half a brain can completely see through her BS and realize she is nothing mroe than a puppet who is suppossed to sit there, be pretty, and try to act as if Mccains campaign understands what it is like being an average American. Best moment of the debate was easily when Biden went on to talk about his hardships of raising kids and such after Palin went on for the billionth time about how she is a mom.

Palin, I don't give 2 ****** if you are a mom. It's nice and all, but it means nothing. What matters are your views and quite frankly they SUCK. Not to mention you are a freaking borderline extremist Christian who is talking about the War as God's plan, you are easily the LAST person I would ever want NEAR the White House.

Mccain choosing Palin was probably the biggest example of how the man doesn't take the American public seriously. It is just plain insulting and WRECKLESS that he would make his VP choice based ENTIRELY on trying to play with peoples emotions rather than put an ounce of thought into the fact that his VP will RUN THE COUNTRY SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN TO HIM!!!! He chose someone he THOUGHT would get votes and at the same time chose a complete IDIOT who not only lacks in experience but lacks in intelligent views and keeps proving she has no idea what the **** is going on in the country and our government.

I am just glad that Mccain has pretty much lost the election at this point as I do believe that people see through his campaigns BS. Yes Obama has his flaws but at the same time he seems to be someone who is always right there talking to the experts to help make his decisions, such as when Mccain and Hillary were calling for the gas tax holiday and he was the only standing there telling the American people how POINTLESS it was and how the experts agreed it wasn't a good idea.

Thechaninator

She'll end up costing him the election? She's the only reason he's hanging in. You have any idea how much his numbers spiked after selecting her? He picked her because she went up against her own party to fight corruption? Maybe he also agrees with her social views. You can sit there all day and convince yourself you know McCain's motives and that you know the tryuth, but in reality, it's all your opinion.

Palin was so incredibly fake it was uncomfortable to watch. Gosh darn it, i just dont see how she expects people to fall for such a rootin' tootin' obvious attempt to come off as the friendly face of the republicans. Though i'm sure a good few people will lap it up, you bet'cha.Ninja-Hippo

That's been her personality ever since I've known about her. How do you that's not her personality. Once again, you're calling her fake when you really do not know her away from the election.Assume and suspect all you want, but theyre all just suspicions and assumptions.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"][QUOTE="willtsherman"]

well in reality it is 40% biden, 54% palin, 6% undecided

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HiResDes

according to whom?

Fox News, HAHAHHA:lol:

Fox News is the most neo conservative tv station on the entire network, all of their news is extremely biased, we are talking about the station that enabled O'Reilly to spout his filth on the airwaves.

You know O Reilly's show is based on opinion, right? Also, he has actually been pretty easy on Obama. He doesn't try to pass himself off as an anchor. The MSNBC crew however consisys of the most biased coverage ever seen on tv. It's far worse than Fox. Chris Matthews talks about Obama giving him tingles up his leg.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]Palin comes of as normal to anyone not voting dem from the get go...kcpp2b

She comes off as fake to most people who aren't republicans. Which she is. Anyone who is really not an insider or a everyday person doesn't have to push that as much she does which is ALOT. That poll on CNN was interesting during the debate as the women could see through her BS and alot of the times they weren't agreeing with her.

I think people who are gullable and easy to fool I guess would see her as normal and not see the obvious show she is putting on to pretend she's one of the everyday people when she's anything but. Everyday people don't play spin games like her, they don't lie and spread so many false truths in a single debate like she did. The list goes on

I'm far from gullible. I won't act as if I know either way whether she was being fake or not. I think all who assume to know are just cynical through bias. It's just as easy to say that Obama is being fake when denouncing Wright even though he secretly agrees with everything he says and will implement those ideals after inaguration, but I won't claim to know either way.

shes a fool. Seriously, WHY on earth must you re-dig up the nonsense that is Obama and terrorist..NOW when it was cleared up months ago?! Why not talk about important things that she has yet to do? How can Republicans defend this? Its just STUPID of her to say something stupid now with just weeks before voting. Shes hurting the McCain Camp., but then again, McCain camp are the ones that started all the nonsense that were pointless ads months ago. Sarah Phailin fails!Tjeremiah1988

She's said nothing foolish. Biden on the other hand told a man in a wheel chair to stand up and also said Hillary would have made a better pick. About Ayers, it was never cleared up. McCain never talked about it, only pundits. I'd say an association with a radical with violence in his past is relevant. Especially with a mentor like Wright. It's entirely possible that Obama holds those radical beliefs in his core.

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]shes a fool. Seriously, WHY on earth must you re-dig up the nonsense that is Obama and terrorist..NOW when it was cleared up months ago?! Why not talk about important things that she has yet to do? How can Republicans defend this? Its just STUPID of her to say something stupid now with just weeks before voting. Shes hurting the McCain Camp., but then again, McCain camp are the ones that started all the nonsense that were pointless ads months ago. Sarah Phailin fails!Trashface

She's said nothing foolish. Biden on the other hand told a man in a wheel chair to stand up and also said Hillary would have made a better pick. About Ayers, it was never cleared up. McCain never talked about it, only pundits. I'd say an association with a radical with violence in his past is relevant. Especially with a mentor like Wright. It's entirely possible that Obama holds those radical beliefs in his core.

ridiculous. This is 100% FOOLISH to say something like this with just a month when a ton of people are questioning if you are even fit to VP and you come out saying this?!

This is directed to Trashface as I do not want to mess with the quote ATM.

Palin is costing Mccain the election because she is an idiot. I do believe it was the gallup poll that showed a nice jump in numbers in favor of Obama after the VP debate.

As for her fighting corruption, I do remember hearing that HER administration was under investigation for something involving a library. I think she illegally had books pulled from it or something.....