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HEY LJS i have a question why should anything be legal?Jandurin
That doesn't even make sense to me.....:?

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They should all be legal. Every last one of them. I can't force someone to behave in a certain way just because i don't like it.

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I feel that perscription drugs take too big of a role. Most of the have such bad side effects that it seems not worth it. I think pot should be legal b/c it has very low side effects and makes ppl a lot happier, lets cancer and aid patients eat, and soothes pain for some.DudeNtheRoom
ya, people overlook prescription drugs. have you heard those commercials where they list the possible side effects? far worse than weed
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You also have to view this in a societal context. Different societies place different values on things. Of course it's arbitrary. There are tons of things that are illegal in our society that probably are relatively harmless. You can't walk around naked. You can't use certain language on television. You can't marry your family members - except in West Virginia. Most of these things can be argued that they are far less harmless than things that are legal, but society has chosen to treat them in different ways.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] HEY LJS i have a question why should anything be legal?LJS9502_basic

That doesn't even make sense to me.....:?

well you're asking why pot should be legalized are you only happy things are legal because they are currently legal? your whole alcohol argument is so weird
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You also have to view this in a societal context. Different societies place different values on things. Of course it's arbitrary. There are tons of things that are illegal in our society that probably are relatively harmless. You can't walk around naked. You can't use certain language on television. You can't marry your family members - except in West Virginia. Most of these things can be argued that they are far less harmless than things that are legal, but society has chosen to treat them in different ways.

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not society random bulls*** politics and random fearmongering laws S*** needs to be completely started over.
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[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]I feel that perscription drugs take too big of a role. Most of the have such bad side effects that it seems not worth it. I think pot should be legal b/c it has very low side effects and makes ppl a lot happier, lets cancer and aid patients eat, and soothes pain for some.Stanley09
ya, people overlook prescription drugs. have you heard those commercials where they list the possible side effects? far worse than weed

Yes, but you have to have a prescription to have those. And they also have a specific beneficial effect that is far great than that of marijuana. For example, penicillin has some serious side effects, but for someone with a life threatening infection, it's beneficial effect is very needed.
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Drugs have an overwhelming impact on society which so few people really appreciate. As an experiment to show just how massive an impact they have, the police in london once did an experiment where they put a ridiculous amount of man hours and attention on one small, deprived area where drugs were rampant. The dealers were forced out and the community slowly recovered and completely turned around within a year. Where previously nobody would ever leave their homes, there was now a decent neighborhood were kids played in the streets and people looked after their front gardens and lived semi-normal lives. As normal as you can get when you're that poor. Drugs seriously create so many problems. Organized crime, foreign crime bringing the stuff in, trafficking, gangs, gang violence, petty theft to fund addictions, gun and knife crime because the dealers arm themselves, so people arm themselves. Remove the drugs and you solve so many problems, if only it were that easy.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

You also have to view this in a societal context. Different societies place different values on things. Of course it's arbitrary. There are tons of things that are illegal in our society that probably are relatively harmless. You can't walk around naked. You can't use certain language on television. You can't marry your family members - except in West Virginia. Most of these things can be argued that they are far less harmless than things that are legal, but society has chosen to treat them in different ways.

not society random bulls*** politics and random fearmongering laws S*** needs to be completely started over.

But that's what the collection of people have put their values on. There lots of laws that I don't particularly agree with, but unfortunately I have to obey.
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#161 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] HEY LJS i have a question why should anything be legal?Jandurin

That doesn't even make sense to me.....:?

well you're asking why pot should be legalized are you only happy things are legal because they are currently legal? your whole alcohol argument is so weird

It's not my alcohol argument. I've told several users already to leave alcohol out of it. Weed is illegal. There has been no one in this thread to offer a valid reason why that should be changed. The only argument they have presented is an anti alcohol argument. That does not say much about marijuana and I find that line of discussion irrelevant.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

You also have to view this in a societal context. Different societies place different values on things. Of course it's arbitrary. There are tons of things that are illegal in our society that probably are relatively harmless. You can't walk around naked. You can't use certain language on television. You can't marry your family members - except in West Virginia. Most of these things can be argued that they are far less harmless than things that are legal, but society has chosen to treat them in different ways.

not society random bulls*** politics and random fearmongering laws S*** needs to be completely started over.

But that's what the collection of people have put their values on. There lots of laws that I don't particularly agree with, but unfortunately I have to obey.

lol basing values on random collections of laws stupidity at its finest
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I can't force someone to behave in a certain way just because i don't like it.

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Should we legalize murder then? :P I'm just kidding of course, i think legalisation of some drugs is a good idea.
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[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]I feel that perscription drugs take too big of a role. Most of the have such bad side effects that it seems not worth it. I think pot should be legal b/c it has very low side effects and makes ppl a lot happier, lets cancer and aid patients eat, and soothes pain for some.sonicare
ya, people overlook prescription drugs. have you heard those commercials where they list the possible side effects? far worse than weed

Yes, but you have to have a prescription to have those. And they also have a specific beneficial effect that is far great than that of marijuana. For example, penicillin has some serious side effects, but for someone with a life threatening infection, it's beneficial effect is very needed.

yes, but thousands of people die each year from prescriptions. the pharmaseutical industry is all about money. they are one of the main contributors to keep weed illegal
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That doesn't even make sense to me.....:?LJS9502_basic
well you're asking why pot should be legalized are you only happy things are legal because they are currently legal? your whole alcohol argument is so weird

It's not my alcohol argument. I've told several users already to leave alcohol out of it. Weed is illegal. There has been non one in this thread to offer a valid reason why that should be changed. The only argument they have presented is an anti alcohol argument. That does not say much about marijuana and I find that line of discussion irrelevant.

why shouldn't it be legal?
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] well you're asking why pot should be legalized are you only happy things are legal because they are currently legal? your whole alcohol argument is so weird

It's not my alcohol argument. I've told several users already to leave alcohol out of it. Weed is illegal. There has been non one in this thread to offer a valid reason why that should be changed. The only argument they have presented is an anti alcohol argument. That does not say much about marijuana and I find that line of discussion irrelevant.

why shouldn't it be legal?

It impairs the mind.
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[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Stanley09"] ya, people overlook prescription drugs. have you heard those commercials where they list the possible side effects? far worse than weedStanley09
Yes, but you have to have a prescription to have those. And they also have a specific beneficial effect that is far great than that of marijuana. For example, penicillin has some serious side effects, but for someone with a life threatening infection, it's beneficial effect is very needed.

yes, but thousands of people die each year from prescriptions. the pharmaseutical industry is all about money. they are one of the main contributors to keep weed illegal

I highly doubt they are behind keeping weed illegal. Marijuana has been used medically for pain relief and appetite stimulation. It's effects on glaucoma are negligible compared with the other medication drops on the market.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] well you're asking why pot should be legalized are you only happy things are legal because they are currently legal? your whole alcohol argument is so weird

It's not my alcohol argument. I've told several users already to leave alcohol out of it. Weed is illegal. There has been non one in this thread to offer a valid reason why that should be changed. The only argument they have presented is an anti alcohol argument. That does not say much about marijuana and I find that line of discussion irrelevant.

why shouldn't it be legal?

Step off, man!!
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] why shouldn't it be legal?

I think weed should be illegal. I know everyone says its just the same as alcohol, but i know three separate people who got really messed up by smoking weed. Of course that's their own fault, but still, i just think weed is something as few people as possible should have access to.
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You also have to view this in a societal context. Different societies place different values on things. Of course it's arbitrary. There are tons of things that are illegal in our society that probably are relatively harmless. You can't walk around naked. You can't use certain language on television. You can't marry your family members - except in West Virginia. Most of these things can be argued that they are far less harmless than things that are legal, but society has chosen to treat them in different ways.

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The reason why marijuana became illegal in the first place was largely due to racism and the influence of special interests. Moreover, people shouldn't be going to prison for arbitrary things.
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

You also have to view this in a societal context. Different societies place different values on things. Of course it's arbitrary. There are tons of things that are illegal in our society that probably are relatively harmless. You can't walk around naked. You can't use certain language on television. You can't marry your family members - except in West Virginia. Most of these things can be argued that they are far less harmless than things that are legal, but society has chosen to treat them in different ways.

The reason why marijuana became illegal in the first place was largely due to racism and the influence of special interests. Moreover, people shouldn't be going to prison for arbitrary things.

All laws are arbitrary in some manner.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That doesn't even make sense to me.....:?

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well you're asking why pot should be legalized are you only happy things are legal because they are currently legal? your whole alcohol argument is so weird

It's not my alcohol argument. I've told several users already to leave alcohol out of it. Weed is illegal. There has been no one in this thread to offer a valid reason why that should be changed. The only argument they have presented is an anti alcohol argument. That does not say much about marijuana and I find that line of discussion irrelevant.

how about the fact that we put harmless people in jail? waste money on trying to keep it illegal? miss out on tax revenues from it?
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It's not my alcohol argument. I've told several users already to leave alcohol out of it. Weed is illegal. There has been non one in this thread to offer a valid reason why that should be changed. The only argument they have presented is an anti alcohol argument. That does not say much about marijuana and I find that line of discussion irrelevant. LJS9502_basic
why shouldn't it be legal?

It impairs the mind.

Woah woah woah woah woah!! I was on your side till you said THIS, THIS is by far the most outlandish claim I have seen!! You have to look at the Dickensian aspect of it!!
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] why shouldn't it be legal?

I think weed should be illegal. I know everyone says its just the same as alcohol, but i know three separate people who got really messed up by smoking weed. Of course that's their own fault, but still, i just think weed is something as few people as possible should have access to.

I see it as a problem. And if we want to demonize alcohol for being a societal problem that is fine. But that just reinforces in my mind another reason not to legalize any more substances that affect the brain.
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[QUOTE="ToppledPillars"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] why shouldn't it be legal?

It impairs the mind.

Woah woah woah woah woah!! I was on your side till you said THIS, THIS is by far the most outlandish claim I have seen!! You have to look at the Dickensian aspect of it!!

Outlandish? Let me ask you this....would people smoke weed if they didn't receive an effect from it...ie get high?
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] why shouldn't it be legal?

I think weed should be illegal. I know everyone says its just the same as alcohol, but i know three separate people who got really messed up by smoking weed. Of course that's their own fault, but still, i just think weed is something as few people as possible should have access to.

I see it as a problem. And if we want to demonize alcohol for being a societal problem that is fine. But that just reinforces in my mind another reason not to legalize any more substances that affect the brain.

why dont we make alcohol illegal then? that would decrease its use, right?
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[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] I think weed should be illegal. I know everyone says its just the same as alcohol, but i know three separate people who got really messed up by smoking weed. Of course that's their own fault, but still, i just think weed is something as few people as possible should have access to.

I see it as a problem. And if we want to demonize alcohol for being a societal problem that is fine. But that just reinforces in my mind another reason not to legalize any more substances that affect the brain.

why dont we make alcohol illegal then? that would decrease its use, right?

Prohibition says hi....
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At some point, marijuana may be become legal in this country again. It is a prescription medicine in some states to treat pain and nausea.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I see it as a problem. And if we want to demonize alcohol for being a societal problem that is fine. But that just reinforces in my mind another reason not to legalize any more substances that affect the brain.

why dont we make alcohol illegal then? that would decrease its use, right?

Prohibition says hi....

-sigh- we have a prohibition of drugs going on right now, if you havent already noticed. This is what is creating mexicos drug cartels
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[QUOTE="ToppledPillars"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It impairs the mind.LJS9502_basic
Woah woah woah woah woah!! I was on your side till you said THIS, THIS is by far the most outlandish claim I have seen!! You have to look at the Dickensian aspect of it!!

Outlandish? Let me ask you this....would people smoke weed if they didn't receive an effect from it...ie get high?

Would you eat pork if it didn't taste good?
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[QUOTE="Stanley09"] why dont we make alcohol illegal then? that would decrease its use, right?

Alcohol is entrenched in our society. Just look at prohibition and how much it miserably failed. Alcohol also isn't as bad as weed (in my opinion).
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ToppledPillars"] Woah woah woah woah woah!! I was on your side till you said THIS, THIS is by far the most outlandish claim I have seen!! You have to look at the Dickensian aspect of it!!ToppledPillars
Outlandish? Let me ask you this....would people smoke weed if they didn't receive an effect from it...ie get high?

Would you eat pork if it didn't taste good?

If one needs nourishment and pork is all to be had...I'd imagine yes. Though I don't think that analogy works. Drugs are taken because they affect the brain. No other reason.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Stanley09"] why dont we make alcohol illegal then? that would decrease its use, right?

Alcohol is entrenched in our society. Just look at prohibition and how much it miserably failed. Alcohol also isn't as bad as weed (in my opinion).

Alcohol not as bad as weed? over 100,000 die from alcohol every year in this country, not including drunk driving. weed kills no one. tell me how thats worse.
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[QUOTE="Stanley09"] -sigh- we have a prohibition of drugs going on right now, if you havent already noticed. This is what is creating mexicos drug cartels

This is true, and they need to completely reform how they police drug use. Throwing drug users in jail is just so incredibly stupid, i cant believe it's gone on for this long without anyone stepping in to stop the sheer idiocy of it. I'm quite happy with what the police do in the UK right now; if you get caught with weed, they just take it off you. That's your punishment, you paid for weed and wasted your money. Weed should never land people in prison.
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[QUOTE="ToppledPillars"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Outlandish? Let me ask you this....would people smoke weed if they didn't receive an effect from it...ie get high?LJS9502_basic

Would you eat pork if it didn't taste good?

If one needs nourishment and pork is all to be had...I'd imagine yes. Though I don't think that analogy works. Drugs are taken because they affect the brain. No other reason.

Alcohol affects the brain...and the kidneys
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[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Stanley09"] why dont we make alcohol illegal then? that would decrease its use, right?

Prohibition says hi....

-sigh- we have a prohibition of drugs going on right now, if you havent already noticed. This is what is creating mexicos drug cartels

You know taking something away that is legal....ie alcohol that is entrenched in the society...does not work as Prohibition has already demonstrated. Keeping something illegal that is already illegal does not have that same effect on society in it's entirety. *sigh*
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ninja hippo personal stories are lame and people get high on weed all the time that's the point if they can't handle crap, they would have had issue with something else anyway ljs you keep trucking bro
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="ToppledPillars"] Would you eat pork if it didn't taste good?ToppledPillars

If one needs nourishment and pork is all to be had...I'd imagine yes. Though I don't think that analogy works. Drugs are taken because they affect the brain. No other reason.

Alcohol affects the brain...and the kidneys

In excess. The kidneys can handle moderate amounts of alcohol. And unless one is a lightweight....the brain as well. Though you see to ascribe to the same argument technique as others. Can't show a positive reason for legalizing weed so bring up alcohol. All that does is reinforce that if we have one substance that causes problems in society then we don't need to create more. So you have agreed with my stance.
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I'll give my 2 cents about the legalization arguement. It's no ones right to tell another what they can or cannot put in thier bodies when the substance is not addictive and has very little negative side effects. Taking to much Advil can damage your liver.....do we outlaw it? No. Loratab (Hydrocodone) is highly addictive but since its a perscription drug made by a pharmacuetical company it's ok.

Then you ask "Where do we stop? Can all drugs be legal?" No, we stop at weed. Weed is practically harmless. It's nothing like crack or cocaine. It was said in the movie Half Baked but it is true. No one has turned into a male prostitue doing sexual favorsfor weed.

I know it's not addictive b/c I use to smoke it and don't anymore. I didn't throw up or get chills from withdrawls. It just sucked b/c it was fun to do. I decided that I couldn't do it as long as it was ilegal which is why I want it legalized so badly.

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#190 Omni-Slash
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I'm all for drugs!........Drugs Founded this country Damnit!...It's what our founding fathers would have wanted!........seriously why else would the 13 colonies thought they could beat England?...you guessed it Crack......
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#191 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Stanley09"] Alcohol not as bad as weed? over 100,000 die from alcohol every year in this country, not including drunk driving. weed kills no one. tell me how thats worse.

That's alcoholism however, and things like drunk driving. Those are the issues, not alcohol itself. Banning alcohol wont stop people being addicted to substances, they'll just find something else. Besides, the whole 'let's ban alcohol then...' thing is just a non-issue which avoids talking about weed. Alcohol simply cannot be banned because it's entrenched. We've been drinking it since the dawn of history. It's not going away. Cars kill people every year too in car crashes and joy riding. Doesn't mean we should ban those. Just because one harmful thing is banned doesn't mean you should extrapolate that into banning every single thing which might ever do harm. It's a little arbitrary what does and doesn't get banned, but that's life. Simply from my own life i can see that weed is worse than alcohol. I drink all the time. All my friends drink. We get drunk pretty often. But three people i know, one of which was my brother, got into smoking weed and it messed them up. It's not something i think people should have easy access to.
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#192 LJS9502_basic
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ninja hippo personal stories are lame and people get high on weed all the time that's the point if they can't handle crap, they would have had issue with something else anyway ljs you keep trucking broJandurin
Sure will. Though I'm sure the weed smokers will continue the same even though medical science has provided proof that weed is not harmless...they do have the pro weed sites...ie pot smokers sites to fall back on.

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Simply from my own life i can see that weed is worse than alcohol. I drink all the time. All my friends drink. We get drunk pretty often. But three people i know, one of which was my brother, got into smoking weed and it messed them up. It's not something i think people should have easy access to. Ninja-Hippo
you're wrong you shouldn't knock what you haven't tried what happened to your brother? did it trip him up into a schizo episode or did he just stop going to school or what?
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#194 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]ninja hippo personal stories are lame and people get high on weed all the time that's the point if they can't handle crap, they would have had issue with something else anyway ljs you keep trucking bro

People do get high on weed all the time, i know, and i completely agree that its their own fault that they allowed it to mess them up so badly. Just having observed its effects on them however and how much it changed them i just concluded that weed aint something people should have easy access to. I think it does an awful lot of harm, more so than going out for a few drinks. That's just my own observation. Weed literally ruined their lives.
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#195 Stanley09
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Prohibition says hi....

-sigh- we have a prohibition of drugs going on right now, if you havent already noticed. This is what is creating mexicos drug cartels

You know taking something away that is legal....ie alcohol that is entrenched in the society...does not work as Prohibition has already demonstrated. Keeping something illegal that is already illegal does not have that same effect on society in it's entirety. *sigh*

there is war going on in mexico and we are causing it by keeping drugs illegal. The violence now cause by the illegality is far worse than prohibition was. As long as there is demand there will be supply
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#196 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] you shouldn't knock what you haven't tried

That's an incorrect assumption; i've tried it plenty of times. Dozens in fact. I have a cigar every night. :) I'm no stranger to smoking.
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#197 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Stanley09"] -sigh- we have a prohibition of drugs going on right now, if you havent already noticed. This is what is creating mexicos drug cartels

You know taking something away that is legal....ie alcohol that is entrenched in the society...does not work as Prohibition has already demonstrated. Keeping something illegal that is already illegal does not have that same effect on society in it's entirety. *sigh*

there is war going on in mexico and we are causing it by keeping drugs illegal. The violence now cause by the illegality is far worse than prohibition was. As long as there is demand there will be supply

No the pot smokers are causing it. No demand...no war. You cannot blame non pot smokers for the war. Just the users.
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#198 Stanley09
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]ninja hippo personal stories are lame and people get high on weed all the time that's the point if they can't handle crap, they would have had issue with something else anyway ljs you keep trucking bro

People do get high on weed all the time, i know, and i completely agree that its their own fault that they allowed it to mess them up so badly. Just having observed its effects on them however and how much it changed them i just concluded that weed aint something people should have easy access to. I think it does an awful lot of harm, more so than going out for a few drinks. That's just my own observation. Weed literally ruined their lives.

alcohol, the internet, and world of warcraft have also ruined peoples lives. whats your point.
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#199 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]ninja hippo personal stories are lame and people get high on weed all the time that's the point if they can't handle crap, they would have had issue with something else anyway ljs you keep trucking bro

Sure will. Though I'm sure the weed smokers will continue the same even though medical science has provided proof that weed is not harmful....they do have the pro weed sites...ie pot smokers sites to fall back on.

wait are you saying it isn't harmful?
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#200 markop2003
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People should use them as they wish though they're still responsible for their actions.