Involved how? Militarily? Hilary Clinton giving a two-minute speech doesn't really constitute meaningful involvement....the US will definitely get involved.israel is still one of their important allies.
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No, Darkman2007. That guy knows more about Israel and Jews than 99% of this board combined. kraychik
Why, because he has an israeli citizenship?
[QUOTE="kraychik"] No, Darkman2007. That guy knows more about Israel and Jews than 99% of this board combined. pie-junior
Why, because he has an israeli citizenship?
It doesn't surprise me that he does have Israeli citizenship, although I didn't know that until you just mentioned it. But no, I am commenting based on posts of his that I've read on this board. He knows his stuff when it comes to matters related to Israel and the Jewish people in a way virtually all other people on this board do not. I'm not trying to dis people on this board, either, as why would anyone expect some American or German to be knowledgeable about issues that are largely irrelevant to him or her? Darkman2007 is largely a product of his environment(s), and it shows.[QUOTE="kraychik"] No, Darkman2007. That guy knows more about Israel and Jews than 99% of this board combined. pie-junior
Why, because he has an israeli citizenship?
tbf that's probably all it takes to know more than 99% of OT on this issue.[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="kraychik"] No, Darkman2007. That guy knows more about Israel and Jews than 99% of this board combined. themajormayor
Why, because he has an israeli citizenship?
tbf that's probably all it takes to know more than 99% of OT on this issue. Yeah, it's not like this website is a bastion of knowledge on all issues related to Israel and Judaism. That's not a knock against GameSpot, just a pretty simple observation to make.[QUOTE="XaosII"]Sad to say it's 2012 and people still think this way... This is what happens when anti antisemitism is fed to people since birth..Hopefully nothing. That area deserves to be a glass crater.
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yeah u,s will get involved
u.s:problem in another place? and it doesnt concern us?
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Did you have any specific wars (that the US took part in) in mind that didn't concern the US? Really I can only think of WWI and WWII.
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[QUOTE="kraychik"] No, Darkman2007. That guy knows more about Israel and Jews than 99% of this board combined. kraychik
Why, because he has an israeli citizenship?
It doesn't surprise me that he does have Israeli citizenship, although I didn't know that until you just mentioned it. But no, I am commenting based on posts of his that I've read on this board. He knows his stuff when it comes to matters related to Israel and the Jewish people in a way virtually all other people on this board do not. I'm not trying to dis people on this board, either, as why would anyone expect some American or German to be knowledgeable about issues that are largely irrelevant to him or her? Darkman2007 is largely a product of his environment(s), and it shows.While it's true that people living there are most likely more knowledgeable, I can also imagine they're also more likely to have a biased view if they're not viewing this from a third party point of view.
It doesn't surprise me that he does have Israeli citizenship, although I didn't know that until you just mentioned it. But no, I am commenting based on posts of his that I've read on this board. He knows his stuff when it comes to matters related to Israel and the Jewish people in a way virtually all other people on this board do not. I'm not trying to dis people on this board, either, as why would anyone expect some American or German to be knowledgeable about issues that are largely irrelevant to him or her? Darkman2007 is largely a product of his environment(s), and it shows.[QUOTE="kraychik"]
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Why, because he has an israeli citizenship?
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While it's true that people living there are most likely more knowledgeable, I can also imagine they're also more likely to have a biased view if they're not viewing this from a third party point of view.
There's no such thing as being unbiased, anyways. Put it a different way, you could make this same weak argument about Americans regarding American policies. Who is more likely to be more familiar with American issues but Americans? Just because someone has a greater connection to an issue doesn't make them more biased, it just increases the likelihood of them being more knowledgeable about an issue. Americans don't need non-Americans telling them what to do due to some imagined objectivity from the supposedly-uninvolved stakeholder. No offence, but your argument is stupid.[QUOTE="one_plum"]There's no such thing as being unbiased, anyways. Put it a different way, you could make this same weak argument about Americans regarding American policies. Who is more likely to be more familiar with American issues but Americans? Just because someone has a greater connection to an issue doesn't make them more biased, it just increases the likelihood of them being more knowledgeable about an issue. Americans don't need non-Americans telling them what to do due to some imagined objectivity from the supposedly-uninvolved stakeholder. No offence, but your argument is stupid.While it's true that people living there are most likely more knowledgeable, I can also imagine they're also more likely to have a biased view if they're not viewing this from a third party point of view.
kraychik
Bias is quantitative.
If you've been exposed to a situation where a group has affected your life in a negative or positive way, don't tell me this is not going to affect your judgment of that group (whether emotionally justified or not). I think it's naive to think otherwise.
under attack for centuries.kraychik
for centuries.kraychikYeah, you mean like they have been bee stinged for centuries. How about a serious war? Like a total war.
it'll never happenMichaeltheCMYou got a time machine? I don't think so. Plus, all Arab countries really hate Israel and they want to completely wipe them off the face of Earth. So, plox stop making up crap.
[QUOTE="sethman410"] Yeah, you mean like they have been bee stinged for centuries. How about a serious war? Like a total war.FMAB_GTOWhat?no,my point was that Israel didn't even exist for a century yet. Oh. Sorry. But they have been bee stinged since they existed.
under attack for centuries.kraychik
for centuries.kraychikYou *deliberately* misquoted me. This is the full context of what I said, " First of all, Israel and the Jewish people have been under attack for centuries.". Are you that pathetic that you need to edit my statements in order to misrepresent what I said? Don't answer that.
You said the Jews and Israel,and both are NOT the same thing FYI.FMAB_GTOYou misquoted me intentionally. You wouldn't have edited my statement if you didn't intend to be dishonest. Nothing more to say here. Try and engage me on any issue related to Israel and you'll get wrecked like every other leftist I've destroyed on this board.
[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]You said the Jews and Israel,and both are NOT the same thing FYI.FMAB_GTOWho said they were the same thing? Not I. You can't dodge the point that you deliberately edited my statement, which tells us all we really to know. Just another pathetic leftist detractor who is terrified of me.
[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]You said the Jews and Israel,and both are NOT the same thing FYI.kraychikWho said they were the same thing? Not I. You can't dodge the point that you deliberately edited my statement, which tells us all we really to know. Just another pathetic leftist detractor who is terrified of me. I know your ego wont allow you to accept this but I have a news flash for you: no one is, in any f*cking way, terrified of you. Please get over yourself. PS: F*ck you very much.
Israel will most likely bomb them back and win the non winable conflict or try to prevent said bombings from happening again using tactics not acceptable to the international community. The UN will yada yada yada Israeli aggression yada yada. America lends moral support.
But then again they've been bombed continuously for years by proxies and terrorists from several countries/states so the answer to the stated question is already known to some degree.
Any serious bombing campaign will be won by Israel and if an invasion is attempted, and it won't, America will make sure Israel comes out on top. Not that Isreal really needs the help considering it has arguably the most powerful military in the region and has survived all previous wars. All situations considered, Israel wins the battle but loses the war for international approval in most cases.
I edited to show the Israel part,you put them in the same sentence as attacked for centuries as the Jews,which is wrong. And no one is terrified form you because thry thread* about Israel's reestablishment in 1948? Let me guess, you're another Arab/Muslim leftist? Only such a person would engage in such pathetic editing out of desperation. Another terrified leftists who fears me. I love it.kraychik
Some people would say leftists are often lost in their delusions. I think you're becoming a leftist.
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