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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="XaosII"]Sad to say it's 2012 and people still think this way... This is what happens when anti antisemitism is fed to people since birth..Hopefully nothing. That area deserves to be a glass crater.
kingkong0124
Its not anti-semitism. Its pro-common sense.
I dotn want the people there to die - i want the actual land to be an uninhabitable wasteland. The world would be far better off without stupid conflicts.
[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="pie-junior"]Kraychik, you can't join the crew.kraychikI love how you discredit Kraychik.. His posts have 10x more substance than yours do. True. Although I'd say it's about a hundred times more.
I don't think 'leftist' has that high of a score value.
Unless you're hitting all the triple word score tiles.
This is what happens when anti antisemitism is fed to people since birth..[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Sad to say it's 2012 and people still think this way...XaosII
Its not anti-semitism. Its pro-common sense.
I dotn want the people there to die - i want the actual land to be an uninhabitable wasteland. The world would be far better off without stupid conflicts.
The Israelis would probably like that just as much as the Carthaginians liked salt being sowed into their soil.
[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]Ever since the illegal establishment of IsraelFMAB_GTO
Illegal by what standards?
Some believe it is not their lands pie. And the jews were took there for.,well,to get rid of them."Not their land" doesn't seem to be legally affiliated. Some jews believe palestinians haven't a connection to said land.
Even regardless of the farcical attempt to insert the existence of Israel into a state of illegality, irrespective of international law, that is an absurd and nonconstructive position to take in practice.
Some believe it is not their lands pie. And the jews were took there for.,well,to get rid of them.[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="pie-junior"]
Illegal by what standards?
pie-junior
"Not their land" doesn't seem to be legally affiliated.
Some jews believe palestinians haven't a connection to said land.
Even regardless of the farcical attempt to insert the existence of Israel into a state of illegality, irregardless of international law, that is an absurd and nonconstructive position to take in a practice.
I see... Well all I know is that they only brought problems to me hehe =P[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] Well all I know is that they only brought problems to me hehe =Ppie-junior
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why?
Our house was destroyed in 2006,oooo so many video games were dead =/ And people too of course. MY POINT IS I am Lebanese and the people who like Israel here are 1% or so =PI Love how pro israel military folk glory Israel's might as if every aircraft, vehicle, and ship doesn't come directly from the US. There's absolutely nothing to gloat about as far as military's concerned. If it weren't for the billions of dollars in welfare, there would be no military.thebest31406
Like stated previously, the American aid to Israel amounts to about 1% of the annual Israeli government budget and it began afteri Israel fought all of its substantial wars.
Some believe it is not their lands pie. And the jews were took there for.,well,to get rid of them.[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="pie-junior"]
Illegal by what standards?
pie-junior
"Not their land" doesn't seem to be legally affiliated. Some jews believe palestinians haven't a connection to said land.
Even regardless of the farcical attempt to insert the existence of Israel into a state of illegality, irrespective of international law, that is an absurd and nonconstructive position to take in practice.
That's quite the ludicrous assertion...Forceful expulsion of over a million people from their homeland is illegal, irrespective of what the UN or Israel deems otherwise...[QUOTE="thebest31406"]I Love how pro israel military folk glory Israel's might as if every aircraft, vehicle, and ship doesn't come directly from the US. There's absolutely nothing to gloat about as far as military's concerned. If it weren't for the billions of dollars in welfare, there would be no military.pie-junior
Like stated previously, the American aid to Israel amounts to about 1% of the annual Israeli government budget and it began afteri Israel fought all of its substantial wars.
That is incorrect (Unless the annual military budget for Israel is 300 billion dollars, which I doubt). The U.S. gives Israel approximately 8.2 million dollars in military aid to Israel daily http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "The source for US military aid to Israel during Fiscal Year 2011 is the Congressional Research Services U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel, written by Jeremy M. Sharp, Specialist in Middle Eastern Affairs, updated September 16, 2010. According to this report, the Obama Administration requested $3 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) for Israel for the fiscal year 2011."That's quite the ludicrous assertion...Forceful expulsion of over a million people from their homeland is illegal, irrespective of what the UN or Israel deems otherwise...Nayef_shroof
you're claiming illegality w/o proposing a binding legal norm being breached, and i'm the one making the ludicrous assertions?
On the other side of the equation you have, roughly, a million jewish refugees focefully expelled from what it to become the post 48 jordanian and egyptian occupation territories and the rest of the muslim world.
[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] That's quite the ludicrous assertion...Forceful expulsion of over a million people from their homeland is illegal, irrespective of what the UN or Israel deems otherwise...pie-junior
you're claiming illegality w/o proposing a binding legal norm being breached, and i'm the one making the ludicrous assertions?
On the other side of the equation you have, roughly, a million jewish refugees focefully expelled from what it to become the post 48 jordanian and egyptian occupation territories and the rest of the muslim world.
...No. Jews from the Middle East immigrated to Israel at their own accord, not by forceful expulsion...[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] That's quite the ludicrous assertion...Forceful expulsion of over a million people from their homeland is illegal, irrespective of what the UN or Israel deems otherwise...Nayef_shroof
you're claiming illegality w/o proposing a binding legal norm being breached, and i'm the one making the ludicrous assertions?
On the other side of the equation you have, roughly, a million jewish refugees focefully expelled from what it to become the post 48 jordanian and egyptian occupation territories and the rest of the muslim world.
...No. Jews from the Middle East immigrated to Israel at their own accord, not by forceful expulsion... That's exactly the israeli version for the palestinian refugee problem-I could quote you the clause in the Israeli Declaration of independence calling for all 'native arabs to remain in their homes, and work together to rebuild the country out of a position of full and equal citizenship'.In actuality, in both cases it was a combination of minimal actual physical coercion, some mainly non-violent 'encouragements' and, mostly, a significant amount of fear and trepidation of the other side.
[QUOTE="thebest31406"]I Love how pro israel military folk glory Israel's might as if every aircraft, vehicle, and ship doesn't come directly from the US. There's absolutely nothing to gloat about as far as military's concerned. If it weren't for the billions of dollars in welfare, there would be no military.pie-junior
Like stated previously, the American aid to Israel amounts to about 1% of the annual Israeli government budget and it began afteri Israel fought all of its substantial wars.
You're thinking of Israeli GDP, which is currently around $225 billion. American aid to Israel has averaged about $2.5 billion annually since 1979, directly tied with the average $2 billion going annually to Egypt. American foreign aid to Israel is currently values at around 1% of Israeli GDP. In one way, considering this foreign aid is almost exclusively reserved for military purchases from domestic American arms manufacturers, it's sort of a subsidy to this industry. Of course there is more that America is getting for this expenditure/investment, but perhaps that's beyond the scope of this discussion considering we're talking to a couple of predictable and reflexive Israel-hating Arab Muslims.kraychik on the warpath again. :lol:
I'm assuming he's an actual Israeli Jew if not i'm bitterly disappointed.
Looool, is the dollar that low? Well in that case, Israel is hardly getting anything from the US.There'd be about 20 quid's worth of damage.
Ilovegames1992
[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] That's quite the ludicrous assertion...Forceful expulsion of over a million people from their homeland is illegal, irrespective of what the UN or Israel deems otherwise...Nayef_shroof
you're claiming illegality w/o proposing a binding legal norm being breached, and i'm the one making the ludicrous assertions?
On the other side of the equation you have, roughly, a million jewish refugees focefully expelled from what it to become the post 48 jordanian and egyptian occupation territories and the rest of the muslim world.
...No. Jews from the Middle East immigrated to Israel at their own accord, not by forceful expulsion... Well, I guess the Holocaust wasn't really an expulsion. Neither were the pogroms in Europe (and in the Middle East). Or the many forceful expulsions of Jews from European states and subsequent restrictions placed on us various dimensions of life. Neither was dhimmitude (which you probably describe as harmonious cohabitation) when we lived in Muslim-majority Arab states. But what about the over 700 thousand Jews that were forcefully expelled from Muslim-majority Arab states in the years after 1948? I guess those expulsions are something you don't like to talk about.Is he? Lmao! Boy I tell you, there's nothing more pathetic than a supremacist jew; masquerading as some purist...kraychik on the warpath again. :lol:
I'm assuming he's an actual Israeli Jew if not i'm bitterly disappointed.
Ilovegames1992
[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] Well all I know is that they only brought problems to me hehe =PFMAB_GTO
D:
why?
Our house was destroyed in 2006,oooo so many video games were dead =/ And people too of course. MY POINT IS I am Lebanese and the people who like Israel here are 1% or so =P So you blame Israel for the alleged destruction of your home while defending itself from the terrorists known as Hezbollah who you allowed to regroup and arm themselves within your own southern territory? Interesting. I guess the next time Hezbollah (and there will be a next time) attacks the IDF with gunfire and anti-tank missiles from your apartment building and an airstrike takes out that building (after giving the so-called civilians blow-horn/loudspeaker warnings in Arabic to evacuate, as well as air-dropped leaflets and mass SMS spam to their mobile phones with the same message), you'll blame Israel again?[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] Well all I know is that they only brought problems to me hehe =PFMAB_GTO
D:
why?
Our house was destroyed in 2006,oooo so many video games were dead =/ And people too of course. MY POINT IS I am Lebanese and the people who like Israel here are 1% or so =P It's more than 1%. There is a decent strong element of solidarity between Israel and the Christian Lebanese, specifically the Maronites. They are afraid of speaking their minds openly in Lebanon, obviously, as Muslims like yourself don't really respect freedom of speech. In other words, they fear for their lives lest they be honest about their political views. The same is true of Christian Arabs in and around Israel who are frightened to death to speak candidly about "sensitive" subjects. The Muslims do a fantastic job intimidating the Christians into silence.What a shocker, a Muslim using an anti-gay epithet. Bottom line? She can't retort anything and devolved to personal insults. Did anyone espect anything more? Another leftist casualty wrecked by yours truly.
kraychik
:lol:
[QUOTE="kraychik"]
What a shocker, a Muslim using an anti-gay epithet. Bottom line? She can't retort anything and devolved to personal insults. Did anyone espect anything more? Another leftist casualty wrecked by yours truly.
Ilovegames1992
:lol:
Admittedly it's kind of funny, but you can rest assured that both these two Lebanese and "Palestinian" Muslims subscribe to the stereotypical leftist anti-American narrative with respect to international relations (America is the big Satan, Arab/Muslim chronic failure if because of imaginary foreign oppression/imperialism/colonialism, etc), and you'd be making a conservative bet if you thought they were big government socialists. Arabs/Muslims are very rarely supporters of individual liberties in either the economic or social spheres.You're thinking of Israeli GDP, which is currently around $225 billion. American aid to Israel has averaged about $2.5 billion annually since 1979, directly tied with the average $2 billion going annually to Egypt. American foreign aid to Israel is currently values at around 1% of Israeli GDP. In one way, considering this foreign aid is almost exclusively reserved for military purchases from domestic American arms manufacturers, it's sort of a subsidy to this industry. Of course there is more that America is getting for this expenditure/investment, but perhaps that's beyond the scope of this discussion considering we're talking to a couple of predictable and reflexive Israel-hating Arab Muslims.kraychik
No, I meant that-
The general governmental budget stands at ~385 billion NIS for 2012. making the american aid to Israel less than 3% of that total budget.
What are you talking about?FMAB_GTOExactly. This discussion is way above your head. If it isn't the moronic banality that you hear in the falafel shops or hookah lounges, it's too complex for you to grasp. Arab/Muslim women aren't typically encouraged to get educated either, so that's a sort of double-whammy against you.
No, I meant that-I know, but when you initially mentioned 1%, that's the accurate statistic when examining Israel's current GDP. In the past, however, there have been years where American foreign aid to Israel composed a much larger portion of Israel's GDP, and the same is true for Egypt. The amount of aid has remained fairly steady over the past three decades to both Israel and Egypt. Although somewhat tangential, Obama is preserving that aid to Egypt even as it plunges into Islamism with the Muslim Brotherhood. That's the foreign policy of a socialist who believes in "legitimate Islamism" (his own administration's term), though.The general governmental budget stands at ~385 billion NIS for 2012. making the american aid to Israel less than 3% of that total budget.
pie-junior
Wait. Okay, now I'm confused. Is he American, Canadian and Israeli or what?thebest31406I sure hope not. :(
There is no need to be rude or anything,why do you hate us anyway?FMAB_GTOSo let me get this straight, I accurately describe certain circumstances regarding the conflict between Israel and the Islamist terrorists known as Hezbollah, so therefore I "hate" you folks? Are you a Hezbollah terrorist? Isn't it hilarious how when you shatter the lies of leftists they accuse you of being a hater?
I sure hope not. :( Lol, well it was just random as hell wasn't it? Israeli flag is obvious, as was the US flag cuz that's Israel's pimp. But Canada? He's lost it.....more so than usual.[QUOTE="thebest31406"]Wait. Okay, now I'm confused. Is he American, Canadian and Israeli or what?Aljosa23
[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]There is no need to be rude or anything,why do you hate us anyway?kraychikSo let me get this straight, I accurately describe certain circumstances regarding the conflict between Israel and the Islamist terrorists known as Hezbollah, so therefore I "hate" you folks? Are you a Hezbollah terrorist? Isn't it hilarious how when you shatter the lies of leftists they accuse you of being a hater? No,I'm a Martian witch that wants to rule the world one day -_-
[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]There is no need to be rude or anything,why do you hate us anyway?FMAB_GTOSo let me get this straight, I accurately describe certain circumstances regarding the conflict between Israel and the Islamist terrorists known as Hezbollah, so therefore I "hate" you folks? Are you a Hezbollah terrorist? Isn't it hilarious how when you shatter the lies of leftists they accuse you of being a hater? No,I'm a Martian witch that wants to rule the world one day -_- Why don't you get back to using anti-gay epithets in order to dodge reality, since you're obviously much more comfortable with that considering your culture. Serious discussion is obviously *not* something you're comfortable with.
Wait. Okay, now I'm confused. Is he American, Canadian and Israeli or what?thebest31406
Fvck knows. His trolling is first class though.
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