When people say all drugs should be legal, do they realize how wrong that is?

I don't think sending addicts to prison will help them either.

Imagine if obesity was illegal, do you think prison would help them?

Obesity is a disease

Drug abuse is a disease

:3

Gaming-Planet

they would probably lose weight

It's definitely not realistic for heroin or meth to ever be legal. However, that's not to say I think people who use it should be put in prison.chrisrooR

Well they already have oxycodone for heroin, and they use meth for ADHD

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]People obviously. Hard drugs are just a subjective thing and democracy exists for making such choices. foxhound_fox

People who want all drugs to be legal clearly haven't been looking at the country they live in seriously

Look at your country right now, you're not even ready for Marijuana to be fully legalized..

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]It's definitely not realistic for heroin or meth to ever be legal. However, that's not to say I think people who use it should be put in prison.lostrib

Well they already have oxycodone for heroin, and they use meth for ADHD

but that's how we end up with issues like marijuana where a state legalizes it but the federal government does not

lostrib

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]It's definitely not realistic for heroin or meth to ever be legal. However, that's not to say I think people who use it should be put in prison.chrisrooR

Well they already have oxycodone for heroin, and they use meth for ADHD

well they already do that.  And from my understanding, the prescribed drugs are not that difficult to get

People who want all drugs to be legal clearly haven't been looking at the country they live in seriously

Look at your country right now, you're not even ready for Marijuana to be fully legalized..

ThisIsTwoFace

what does that even mean?

Multiple states have alread legalized it in some form

I don't think sending addicts to prison will help them either.

Imagine if obesity was illegal, do you think prison would help them?

Obesity is a disease

Drug abuse is a disease

:3

Gaming-Planet

[QUOTE="Gaming-Planet"]

I don't think sending addicts to prison will help them either.

Imagine if obesity was illegal, do you think prison would help them?

Obesity is a disease

Drug abuse is a disease

:3

Capitan_Kid

Why not? they did it to themselves

I can see why, from a certain point of view, how that would be a good thing but dear god the negatives outway the pros. Sure, that would cripple the power the drug lords have over the US and hey, a super responsible well built person could enjoy some heroin every now and then and walk away problem free but for every responsible joe schmoe, you have many irresponsible sallys. People are weak, people cave in, people do things they normally wouldnt during dark times. These people, who there are many of, would be given an opportunity to simply walk to a pharmacy and pick up some meth and then ruin their lives. They would get addicted and become a wreck. Families, would break, stores would get robbed, and many would simply OD. Too many innocent lives would get lost and ruined over something like this. Do you agree? Do you disagree?

Capitan_Kid

I don't know any people that will do heroin if it were legal.

Legalize all drugs and regulate and tax them and instead of imprisoning people with addiction, treat them.

Portugal already proved that legalizing makes usage go down, not up.

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="Gaming-Planet"]

I don't think sending addicts to prison will help them either.

Imagine if obesity was illegal, do you think prison would help them?

Obesity is a disease

Drug abuse is a disease

:3

lostrib

Why not? they did it to themselves

Agreed. But where do you draw the line in the sand? Because whatever you keep in the state of illegality, there will always be extreme criminal behaviour tied to it because it's profit margins soar. chrisrooR

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Well they already have oxycodone for heroin, and they use meth for ADHD

lostrib

well they already do that.  And from my understanding, the prescribed drugs are not that difficult to get

I don't know any people that will do heroin if it were legal.GummiRaccoon

They are significantly harder to get than illegal drugs because no drug dealer is ever regulated.chrisrooR

People get it anyway and then go to jail for it, so we have to ask ourselves, why are we sending people to jail for using certain chemicals on themselves? If legal there'd have to be restrictions (like an age 21 requirement or something) but the war on drugs is a waste of time and money. Cube_of_MooN

All drugs should be legal. Government should never dictate what you can and can't do with/to your body. eggdog1234

[QUOTE="eggdog1234"]All drugs should be legal. Government should never dictate what you can and can't do with/to your body. MrGeezer

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="eggdog1234"]All drugs should be legal. Government should never dictate what you can and can't do with/to your body. mattbbpl

No, but when you make a thread like this I realize how dumb you are.

worlock77

People get it anyway and then go to jail for it, so we have to ask ourselves, why are we sending people to jail for using certain chemicals on themselves? If legal there'd have to be restrictions (like an age 21 requirement or something) but the war on drugs is a waste of time and money. Cube_of_MooN

People who want all drugs to be legal clearly haven't been looking at the country they live in seriously

Look at your country right now, you're not even ready for Marijuana to be fully legalized..

ThisIsTwoFace

What has prohibition accomplished?

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]I don't know any people that will do heroin if it were legal.foxhound_fox

Morphine is beautiful.

[QUOTE="Nuck81"]Marijuana should be legalThe_Lipscomb

You literally can't fell as happy as you used to after using it.

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] Wouldn't really change anything if it was made completely legal either. The gangs would still be the primary pushers and would put competition out of business just like they do now. Gangs are pretty great at capitalism, not so great at morality. At least if it's illegal you can try to prevent it and have there be stigma against it. The actual illegality of it may not do a whole lot but the cultural stigma sure as hell does.Ace6301

Do you know what happened when the United States made alcohol illegal? And do you know what happened when the United States subsequently made alcohol legal again?

[QUOTE="Master_Live"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] You do know if you legalize it the exact same people running the operations at this moment will be doing it when it's legal right? Ace6301

Dude, I don't think people would risk buying something illegally when they could do it legally. Plus anyone still selling drugs illegally after legalization should be shutdown just like law enforcement try to do now.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Master_Live"] You don't what the heck you are talking. Have you seen how the Marihuana's laws currently regulate their sale in Washington and Colorado? The pre-requisite for applying for a license are overly stringent (like having no previous convictions) precisely to try to build trust for the producers and sellers. So get informed before spewing nonsense all around. Master_Live

Dude, I don't think people would risk buying something illegally when they could do it legally. Plus anyone still selling drugs illegally after legalization should be shutdown just like law enforcement try to do now.

Cigarettes are a prime example*. Certainly there's a black market for cigarettes, but it's almost insignificant compared to the legal market because most people aren't going to go through the hassle and risk of biging off some sleazy guy that may not be trust worthy in a back alley when they can simply go down to the store and get their cigarettes trouble-free.

(*Or DVD players or just about any other high demand product you can think of.)

Do you know what happened when the United States made alcohol illegal? And do you know what happened when the United States subsequently made alcohol legal again?

worlock77

Dude, I don't think people would risk buying something illegally when they could do it legally. Plus anyone still selling drugs illegally after legalization should be shutdown just like law enforcement try to do now.

Master_Live

Do you know what happened when the United States made alcohol illegal? And do you know what happened when the United States subsequently made alcohol legal again?

worlock77

Q: But what about hard drugs?

A: Hard drugs should be regulated heavily in order to ensure product quality and safety. Treatment should be provided for those heavily addicted who wish to overcome their addiction without the force of law.

Q: The country isn't ready! How can it be ready for legalization?

A: Prohibition doesn't work and the question being asked is stupid. The country is ready for legalization and no, not everyone in this country is going to go smoke pot, just like how most refuse or show no interest in smoking cigarettes or consuming alcohol. However people will try new things and that's what humanity does: We like to try it out.

Q: But what about society!? Society will break down and crumble!

A: Right and they said the same thing about alcohol back in the 20s and guess what? Nothing happened. These are nothing but irrational exaggerations used to frighten people such as yourself. Society will not crumble, nor will America collapse and succumb to China or whatever idiotic fantasy you think will happen. The one thing that will mostly likely happen is this: Two guys are going to get stoned, eating some Twinkies laughing at Dane Cook.

Q: But Opium nearly destroyed China! Explain that!

A: This is a legit question. However while addiction rates were high in China, the rest of the world was consuming opium at the time, and today the world's largest consumer of opium is the USA and so far, no breakdown in society. There were far more problems in China other than Opium use such as the fact that China went from a great nation to a laughing stock due to their loss in the Opium wars, trade disputes, and etc.

Q: But people are stupid! How can you control them?

A: You can't. People will always make stupid or irrational decisions whether they're high, drunk, or even sober. Instead of outright banning certain drugs, there needs to be regulation of the product to ensure it's safe when moderately used and to ensure quality, but the most important thing is education: Just like how we educate ourselves and others to limit our consumption of alcohol, we can educate those to limit their consumption of drugs. We can always try to help but sometimes it doesn't work but its better than destroying a person's life for trying some drug.

Q: Drugs can ruin a person's potential right?

A: Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Steve Jobs, Bill Clinton, Richard Branson, the list goes on. What's disturbing is that many of those who fight against its legalization are the ones who joke about their use in which I think they're hypocritical scumbags. There is something called personal responsibility and perhaps drugs can ruin a person's life but so can a million other things such as death in the family, tradegy, etc. It's how we handle it that counts.

And now I have a question for all of you: What has the War on Drugs accomplished?

And now I have a question for all of you: What has the War on Drugs accomplished?

leviathan91

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

And now I have a question for all of you: What has the War on Drugs accomplished?

Ace6301

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="leviathan91"]

And now I have a question for all of you: What has the War on Drugs accomplished?

Capitan_Kid

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]They are significantly harder to get than illegal drugs because no drug dealer is ever regulated.foxhound_fox

the drug war must stay, we must send people to prison for using drugs or else we might possibly maybe one day need to send them to prison for some other reason. we must ruin lives because the alternative is that their lives might be ruined at some point in the future by their own hands, i want to be apart of that ruining, and it must be as expansive as possible.

the drug war must stay, we must send people to prison for using drugs or else we might possibly maybe one day need to send them to prison for some other reason. we must ruin lives because the alternative is that their lives might be ruined at some point in the future by their own hands, i want to be apart of that ruining, and it must be as expansive as possible.

surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

the drug war must stay, we must send people to prison for using drugs or else we might possibly maybe one day need to send them to prison for some other reason. we must ruin lives because the alternative is that their lives might be ruined at some point in the future by their own hands, i want to be apart of that ruining, and it must be as expansive as possible.

EagleEyedOne

Q: do you have title to every human under your drug policy? if not, then what gives you the right to force them into prison or prison light(treatment) for being peaceful people? 

[QUOTE="EagleEyedOne"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

the drug war must stay, we must send people to prison for using drugs or else we might possibly maybe one day need to send them to prison for some other reason. we must ruin lives because the alternative is that their lives might be ruined at some point in the future by their own hands, i want to be apart of that ruining, and it must be as expansive as possible.

surrealnumber5

Q: do you have title to every human under your drug policy? if not, then what gives you the right to force them into prison or prison light(treatment) for being peaceful people? 

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="EagleEyedOne"] Unless you can provide numbers that prove rehabilitating drug addicts is more expensive than putting them in prison in the United States then your claim remains within the ideological void.

EagleEyedOne

Q: do you have title to every human under your drug policy? if not, then what gives you the right to force them into prison or prison light(treatment) for being peaceful people? 

[QUOTE="EagleEyedOne"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] lol
 

 

Q: do you have title to every human under your drug policy? if not, then what gives you the right to force them into prison or prison light(treatment) for being peaceful people? 

surrealnumber5