Which religion works better in modern times. Christianity or Islam?

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[QUOTE="Aero5555"]

Sniper is riled up and offended. So much so that he's posting irrationally. Don't blame him, based on the BS Wis3 and you are spouting (slavery is not pro- Islamic).

We see what LGBT groups are doing these days with the protests. Decency is so much so in the red that even whores and sluts march demanding their right to act like they do. So don't go bashing and generalizing people while you think your own shi* don't stink.

SNIPER, Grey. I suggest you ignore this disgusting excuse of a discussion. You know what Allah said in the quran about blackened hearts. Just pray they see the light and move on.

SNIPER4321

SNIPER tried to justify Islam by listing Allahs mosted hated things, one of which was slaves escaping their masters. So yes by SNIPERs interpretation of Islam slavery is ok. He then went on to sprout homophobia and other bigoted statements.

slaves are Prisnor of wars and God say treat them like brothers. otherwise islam also say free slaves from enemies. we are not against homosexuals but homosexuality. eitherway follow your way, i follow mine.

Muhammad had a rather screwed up view on war. he treated everyone who isn't part of his group as an enemy. A prisoner of war doesn't mean a soldier attacking them, but anyone who didn't join his cult. If you think the slaves were treated fairly you are mistaken, why not actually read up on history?

No muslims don't hate homosexuals, that's why they discriminate against them, take away their rights and in some cases kill them (which you also defended in that thread)

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#303 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] yeah and the book of Athiests promotes killing aswell. :)

SNIPER4321

There's no such thing.

Then why worst human being on earth is atheist? Joseph Stalin. he make Hitler feel like fruity pebbles.

They both also had mustaches.

Hitler was directly influenced by religion (read Mien Kampf) Stalin wasn't directly influenced by atheism.

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#304 Aero5555
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Ya SNIPER ya habibi, please calm down and let it go. You're not doing yourself or OT's already biased opinion on Muslims a favor. Please drop it and get outta this discussion.

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#306 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] yeah and the book of Athiests promotes killing aswell. :)

Yusuke420

There's no such thing.

Took the out of my mouth, I'm not even athetist and I know that.

LMAO

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#307 Allthishate
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]>Both christianity and Islam are awful. A lot of Muslims and Christians are good, but their the ones who don't follow their religion completely.Ace6301

WTF? those are bad muslims or christian who dont follow religon completely. since when extremist follow religions? they follow their own rules. hardcore athiesm is worst than religious extremism.

I really fail to see how slavery, stoning of women for premarital sex, forcing women to marry their rapist, stoning children who misbehave and hating gays are "good'. I being opposed to those are considered bad by Muslims and Christians then I'll be pleased to be sent to hell for being a more moral person than an almighty being. Fortunately it's very obvious most Muslims and Christians do not abide by those rules and are in fact decent people.

Lal stoning people for pre marital sex, misbehaving, and forcing women to wed their rapist is cultural rather then religious. again come back when u have proper facts before u start spouting outrageous claims that have no cent of truth to them.
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#308 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]blah blah blah SNIPER4321

herp i leant history from derp

ignore toast, hes bashful views of islam are as old as the socks under my bed.

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] WTF? those are bad muslims or christian who dont follow religon completely. since when extremist follow religions? they follow their own rules. hardcore athiesm is worst than religious extremism.Allthishate
I really fail to see how slavery, stoning of women for premarital sex, forcing women to marry their rapist, stoning children who misbehave and hating gays are "good'. I being opposed to those are considered bad by Muslims and Christians then I'll be pleased to be sent to hell for being a more moral person than an almighty being. Fortunately it's very obvious most Muslims and Christians do not abide by those rules and are in fact decent people.

Lal stoning people for pre marital sex, misbehaving, and forcing women to wed their rapist is cultural rather then religious. again come back when u have proper facts before u start spouting outrageous claims that have no cent of truth to them.

If you want to say it's Christian and Muslim culture rather than Christian and Muslim religion then go ahead. I actually think it's far more insulting to say it's a cultural thing because that implies they still do it.
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]blah blah blah GrayF0X786

herp i leant history from derp

ignore toast, hes bashful views of islam are as old as the socks under my bed.

lol 'bashful'
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#311 GrayF0X786
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at the time of our prophet he went through much worse scenarios and had to face even more disgusting claims, what we have today is nothing!

they hate islam and ridicule it because the ones who installed that sh!t in their heads knows how Islam is spreading across the world and it can't be stoped, out of the 3 major religions islam is the only one that did not bend its arse over, it is here to stay, those ignorant athiests fapping over their fantasies in their head that religion will be gone from the world in the near future need to think again.

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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]blah blah blah GrayF0X786

herp i leant history from derp

ignore toast, hes bashful views of islam are as old as the socks under my bed.

Bashing homosexuality and atheism, ok.

Bashing Isalm, that's too far!

i'm not insulting Muslims, I'm insulting people who hold bigoted views. If you're a Muslim who isn't sexist, racist or homophobic then i have no problem with you. I don't care about peoples religious beliefs, that's why I don't count them as an excuse for doing evil things like persecute homosexuals.

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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]SNIPER tried to justify Islam by listing Allahs mosted hated things, one of which was slaves escaping their masters. So yes by SNIPERs interpretation of Islam slavery is ok. He then went on to sprout homophobia and other bigoted statements.

toast_burner

slaves are Prisnor of wars and God say treat them like brothers. otherwise islam also say free slaves from enemies. we are not against homosexuals but homosexuality. eitherway follow your way, i follow mine.

Muhammad had a rather screwed up view on war. he treated everyone who isn't part of his group as an enemy. A prisoner of war doesn't mean a soldier attacking them, but anyone who didn't join his cult. If you think the slaves were treated fairly you are mistaken, why not actually read up on history?

No muslims don't hate homosexuals, that's why they discriminate against them, take away their rights and in some cases kill them (which you also defended in that thread)

boo fukin who. if u actually read history the times Mohamed was living in were dangerous and every 1 had to be treated with suspicion (due to numerous assassination attempts). and why do u keep pinning Muslims are the only ones that hate gays. if u read history every religion, every race hated gays and only until recent times they are starting to be more tolerable with it. . and calling Islam a cult is pretty funny compared to the other 'religions' out there.
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#314 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] herp i leant history from derp

toast_burner

ignore toast, hes bashful views of islam are as old as the socks under my bed.

Bashing homosexuality and atheism, ok.

Bashing Isalm, that's too far!

i'm not insulting Muslims, I'm insulting people who hold bigoted views. If you're a Muslim who isn't sexist, racist or homophobic then i have no problem with you. I don't care about peoples religious beliefs, that's why I don't count them as an excuse for doing evil things like persecute homosexuals.

how many fvcking Muslims do you know? sexist racist wtf!? you don't know anything about Muslims, you are just another typical islam hater.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] slaves are Prisnor of wars and God say treat them like brothers. otherwise islam also say free slaves from enemies. we are not against homosexuals but homosexuality. eitherway follow your way, i follow mine. Allthishate

Muhammad had a rather screwed up view on war. he treated everyone who isn't part of his group as an enemy. A prisoner of war doesn't mean a soldier attacking them, but anyone who didn't join his cult. If you think the slaves were treated fairly you are mistaken, why not actually read up on history?

No muslims don't hate homosexuals, that's why they discriminate against them, take away their rights and in some cases kill them (which you also defended in that thread)

boo fukin who. if u actually read history the times Mohamed was living in were dangerous and every 1 had to be treated with suspicion (due to numerous assassination attempts). and why do u keep pinning Muslims are the only ones that hate gays. if u read history every religion, every race hated gays and only until recent times they are starting to be more tolerable with it. . and calling Islam a cult is pretty funny compared to the other 'religions' out there.

What makes you think I'm singling out Islam? I already said Christianity is no better. My problem is with people who discriminate against others, not people who believe in a god.

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] I really fail to see how slavery, stoning of women for premarital sex, forcing women to marry their rapist, stoning children who misbehave and hating gays are "good'. I being opposed to those are considered bad by Muslims and Christians then I'll be pleased to be sent to hell for being a more moral person than an almighty being. Fortunately it's very obvious most Muslims and Christians do not abide by those rules and are in fact decent people.

Lal stoning people for pre marital sex, misbehaving, and forcing women to wed their rapist is cultural rather then religious. again come back when u have proper facts before u start spouting outrageous claims that have no cent of truth to them.

If you want to say it's Christian and Muslim culture rather than Christian and Muslim religion then go ahead. I actually think it's far more insulting to say it's a cultural thing because that implies they still do it.

yes in backward Pakistan, and Afghanistan they sadly do such things. and imo they forfeit there right in being called Muslims ( cuz if they actually read the book and the beliefs) the stuff they are doing is exactly the opposite of the core teachings and not listen to some power hungry cleric that prays on the minds of the ignorant.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] ignore toast, hes bashful views of islam are as old as the socks under my bed.

GrayF0X786

Bashing homosexuality and atheism, ok.

Bashing Isalm, that's too far!

i'm not insulting Muslims, I'm insulting people who hold bigoted views. If you're a Muslim who isn't sexist, racist or homophobic then i have no problem with you. I don't care about peoples religious beliefs, that's why I don't count them as an excuse for doing evil things like persecute homosexuals.

how many fvcking Muslims do you know? sexist racist wtf!? you don't know anything about Muslims, you are just another typical islam hater.

Quite a lot. Most are really nice people, some are really horrible.

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[QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Muhammad had a rather screwed up view on war. he treated everyone who isn't part of his group as an enemy. A prisoner of war doesn't mean a soldier attacking them, but anyone who didn't join his cult. If you think the slaves were treated fairly you are mistaken, why not actually read up on history?

No muslims don't hate homosexuals, that's why they discriminate against them, take away their rights and in some cases kill them (which you also defended in that thread)

toast_burner

boo fukin who. if u actually read history the times Mohamed was living in were dangerous and every 1 had to be treated with suspicion (due to numerous assassination attempts). and why do u keep pinning Muslims are the only ones that hate gays. if u read history every religion, every race hated gays and only until recent times they are starting to be more tolerable with it. . and calling Islam a cult is pretty funny compared to the other 'religions' out there.

What makes you think I'm singling out Islam? I already said Christianity is no better. My problem is with people who discriminate against others, not people who believe in a god.

you must not have many freinds lol

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] ignore toast, hes bashful views of islam are as old as the socks under my bed.

GrayF0X786

Bashing homosexuality and atheism, ok.

Bashing Isalm, that's too far!

i'm not insulting Muslims, I'm insulting people who hold bigoted views. If you're a Muslim who isn't sexist, racist or homophobic then i have no problem with you. I don't care about peoples religious beliefs, that's why I don't count them as an excuse for doing evil things like persecute homosexuals.

how many fvcking Muslims do you know? sexist racist wtf!? you don't know anything about Muslims, you are just another typical islam hater.

I like how you misread every single post just so you can cry persecusion

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[QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Muhammad had a rather screwed up view on war. he treated everyone who isn't part of his group as an enemy. A prisoner of war doesn't mean a soldier attacking them, but anyone who didn't join his cult. If you think the slaves were treated fairly you are mistaken, why not actually read up on history?

No muslims don't hate homosexuals, that's why they discriminate against them, take away their rights and in some cases kill them (which you also defended in that thread)

toast_burner

boo fukin who. if u actually read history the times Mohamed was living in were dangerous and every 1 had to be treated with suspicion (due to numerous assassination attempts). and why do u keep pinning Muslims are the only ones that hate gays. if u read history every religion, every race hated gays and only until recent times they are starting to be more tolerable with it. . and calling Islam a cult is pretty funny compared to the other 'religions' out there.

What makes you think I'm singling out Islam? I already said Christianity is no better. My problem is with people who discriminate against others, not people who believe in a god.

You mention Christianity aswell. but how u phrase your sentences you make it sound like Islam is the sole perpetrator in your arguments.
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[QUOTE="Allthishate"] boo fukin who. if u actually read history the times Mohamed was living in were dangerous and every 1 had to be treated with suspicion (due to numerous assassination attempts). and why do u keep pinning Muslims are the only ones that hate gays. if u read history every religion, every race hated gays and only until recent times they are starting to be more tolerable with it. . and calling Islam a cult is pretty funny compared to the other 'religions' out there. GrayF0X786

What makes you think I'm singling out Islam? I already said Christianity is no better. My problem is with people who discriminate against others, not people who believe in a god.

you must not have many freinds lol

Why would I want to be friends with someone who is racist, sexist or homophobic? Fortunatly were I live those things are looked down upon by the majority of people.

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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]What makes you think I'm singling out Islam? I already said Christianity is no better. My problem is with people who discriminate against others, not people who believe in a god.

toast_burner

you must not have many freinds lol

Why would I want to be friends with someone who is racist, sexist or homophobic? Fortunatly were I live those things are looked down upon by the majority of people.

yeah, fvck the developed world, right?

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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Bashing homosexuality and atheism, ok.

Bashing Isalm, that's too far!

i'm not insulting Muslims, I'm insulting people who hold bigoted views. If you're a Muslim who isn't sexist, racist or homophobic then i have no problem with you. I don't care about peoples religious beliefs, that's why I don't count them as an excuse for doing evil things like persecute homosexuals.

wis3boi

how many fvcking Muslims do you know? sexist racist wtf!? you don't know anything about Muslims, you are just another typical islam hater.

I like how you misread every single post just so you can cry persecusion

hey you the guy that failed so hard against my Ghandi quote? please leave LOL

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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Bashing homosexuality and atheism, ok.

Bashing Isalm, that's too far!

i'm not insulting Muslims, I'm insulting people who hold bigoted views. If you're a Muslim who isn't sexist, racist or homophobic then i have no problem with you. I don't care about peoples religious beliefs, that's why I don't count them as an excuse for doing evil things like persecute homosexuals.

wis3boi

how many fvcking Muslims do you know? sexist racist wtf!? you don't know anything about Muslims, you are just another typical islam hater.

I like how you misread every single post just so you can cry persecusion

he must be picking it up from our resident jews that throw the Holocaust card when ever they get caught out in an argument.
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] how many fvcking Muslims do you know? sexist racist wtf!? you don't know anything about Muslims, you are just another typical islam hater.

Allthishate

I like how you misread every single post just so you can cry persecusion

he must be picking it up from our resident jews that throw the Holocaust card when ever they get caught out in an argument.

Yay for spontaneous Jew hate! (sarcastic "yay")

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[QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

I like how you misread every single post just so you can cry persecusion

toast_burner

he must be picking it up from our resident jews that throw the Holocaust card when ever they get caught out in an argument.

Yay for spontaneous Jew hate! (sarcastic "yay")

I know right darkmen will come now and say how im an anti Semite and accuse me of thinking the holocaust didn't happen and (there normal defensive play book %@@^). /sigh
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[QUOTE="Allthishate"] he must be picking it up from our resident jews that throw the Holocaust card when ever they get caught out in an argument. Allthishate

Yay for spontaneous Jew hate! (sarcastic "yay")

I know right darkmen will come now and say how im an anti Semite and accuse me of thinking the holocaust didn't happen and (there normal defensive play book %@@^). /sigh

If you don't want him to accuse you of being an anti-Semite why did you bring it up?

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[QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Yay for spontaneous Jew hate! (sarcastic "yay")

toast_burner

I know right darkmen will come now and say how im an anti Semite and accuse me of thinking the holocaust didn't happen and (there normal defensive play book %@@^). /sigh

If you don't want him to accuse you of being an anti-Semite why did you bring it up?

just to prove how useless this Muslim hate/persecution thread is.
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hey you the guy that failed so hard against my Ghandi quote? please leave LOLGrayF0X786
No come back?
[QUOTE="toast_burner"]If you don't want him to accuse you of being an anti-Semite why did you bring it up?Allthishate
just to prove how useless this Muslim hate/persecution thread is.

Proving it by bringing up a very stereotypical target of extremist Muslims? Which side are you trying to prove it for, the bashers or the Muslims?
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Neither, they're both nuts. This thread is discouraging in its predictability though. I don't know if people just aren't smart enough to realize the responses they'll generate, or if they're just perfectly content rolling through the motions.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Allthishate"] I know right darkmen will come now and say how im an anti Semite and accuse me of thinking the holocaust didn't happen and (there normal defensive play book %@@^). /sigh Allthishate

If you don't want him to accuse you of being an anti-Semite why did you bring it up?

just to prove how useless this Muslim hate/persecution thread is.

a bit hypocritical of you to say that is it not? :P on the one hand, youre complaining that us Jews use "the anti semitism card" when people complain to us, but when you get the same thing , you call it "Muslim hate/persecution" either both are hatred or both are not, because are quite similar in nature.
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#332 Aero5555
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If you don't want him to accuse you of being an anti-Semite why did you bring it up?

toast_burner

I'd just like to point out that Zionists are the ones who play the holocaust card often, not necesarily Jews. Any person who supports Israel is either a Zionist (including the supporters of this political movement) or is too ignorant to know that Israel doesn't represent Judaism other than politically. Those critics who labeled Mel Gibson and his movie as anti-Semite are Zionists or support them. He's basically targeted thanks to the public knowledge of his dad's religious beliefs (holocaust is a myth) which were pretty much ignored til Passion's production was announced.

For the ignorant, believe it or not. There's a sect of Judaism who believe Palestine's liberation, and how Muslims will govern over them once that occurs, is a sign of judgement day.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

If you don't want him to accuse you of being an anti-Semite why did you bring it up?

Aero5555

I'd just like to point out that Zionists are the ones who play the holocaust card often, not necesarily Jews. Any person who supports Israel is either a Zionist (including the supporters of this political movement) or is too ignorant to know that Israel doesn't represent Judaism other than politically. Those critics who labeled Mel Gibson and his movie as anti-Semite are Zionists or support them. He's basically targeted thanks to the public knowledge of his dad's religious beliefs (holocaust is a myth) which were pretty much ignored til Passion's production was announced.

For the ignorant, believe it or not. There's a sect of Judaism who believe Palestine's liberation, and how Muslims will govern over them once that occurs, is a sign of judgement day.

lol. Id suggest you don't speak for what Zionism or Judaism is. and that "sect of Jews" wants the Arabs dead, wether you like it or not.
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and that "sect of Jews" wants the Arabs dead, wether you like it or not.Darkman2007
How horrifying.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Allthishate"] I know right darkmen will come now and say how im an anti Semite and accuse me of thinking the holocaust didn't happen and (there normal defensive play book %@@^). /sigh Allthishate

If you don't want him to accuse you of being an anti-Semite why did you bring it up?

just to prove how useless this Muslim hate/persecution thread is.

That doesn't make sense. One of the biggest ctiticsm of Islam is how many of it's followers are xenophobic particuallly anti-sematic. Being anti-sematic only furthers the sterotype of Muslims being hateful. It's like a person saying "I'm going to start hating on black people to show how stupid hating racists is" it doesn't make any sense.

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[QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]If you don't want him to accuse you of being an anti-Semite why did you bring it up?

toast_burner

just to prove how useless this Muslim hate/persecution thread is.

That doesn't make sense. One of the biggest ctiticsm of Islam is how many of it's followers are xenophobic particuallly anti-sematic. Being anti-sematic only furthers the sterotype of Muslims being hateful. It's like a person saying "I'm going to start hating on black people to show how stupid hating racists is" it doesn't make any sense.

Those damned Khajiits that complain about not being let into the cities because everyone thinks that they're peddling and doing skooma. Then you check their inventory and they're peddling skooma. But whatever stoner cat people are cool.
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]and that "sect of Jews" wants the Arabs dead, wether you like it or not.Ace6301
How horrifying.

he is refering to those ulta orthodox anti zionists , who alot of Arabs/Muslims seem to think are on their side. what they seem to forget is that even those Jews claim the land of Israel as their own , (and by land of Israel I mean , the greater land, not the political state), its just that they are waiting for the Messiah to arrive , because they believe that is a requirement for Jewish domination over the land. and even if one is not religious, a Messiah is quite possible, get someone charismatic enough , and he can claim to be the Messiah , its happened before.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Ace6301
Those damned Khajiits that complain about not being let into the cities because everyone thinks that they're peddling and doing skooma. Then you check their inventory and they're peddling skooma. But whatever stoner cat people are cool.

This was great, you deserve credit for this.. lol.
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lol. Id suggest you don't speak for what Zionism or Judaism is. and that "sect of Jews" wants the Arabs dead, wether you like it or not.Darkman2007

Zionism is purely a political movement inspired by Judaism. That much is true. Hollywood isn't ruled by Jews, but Zionists.

And I know they want us dead. That was not the point of my post. But thanks for driving the unintentional point across either way.

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Joseph stalin. he make hitler feel like fruity pebbles.SNIPER4321

Sig worthy.

You give all religious people a bad name.

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"]and that "sect of Jews" wants the Arabs dead, wether you like it or not.Darkman2007
How horrifying.

he is refering to those ulta orthodox anti zionists , who alot of Arabs/Muslims seem to think are on their side. what they seem to forget is that even those Jews claim the land of Israel as their own , (and by land of Israel I mean , the greater land, not the political state), its just that they are waiting for the Messiah to arrive , because they believe that is a requirement for Jewish domination over the land. and even if one is not religious, a Messiah is quite possible, get someone charismatic enough , and he can claim to be the Messiah , its happened before.

Oh I know. I just think the whole genocide thing need to be commented on in a manner befitting the subject of genocide. It's quite horrifying, the killing of people.
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] lol. Id suggest you don't speak for what Zionism or Judaism is. and that "sect of Jews" wants the Arabs dead, wether you like it or not.Aero5555

Zionism is purely a political movement inspired by Judaism. That much is true. Hollywood isn't ruled by Jews, but Zionists.

And I know they want us dead. That was not the point of my post. But thanks for driving the unintentional point across either way.

lol, enough with the nonsense, if you think Hollywood is ruled by Jews, say it, don't try and whitewash what you say. and no you don't Im afraid, youre bringing up a bunch of "Anti Zionist Jews who want Palestine's liberation" , which is hilarious, because at the end of the day, those people hate you more , they want you, or rather, any Arab living between the river and the sea , dead. its quite hilarious really, most Jews who would call themselves Zionist (myself included) are more concerned with a Jewish state than with any greater Israel.
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] lol. Id suggest you don't speak for what Zionism or Judaism is. and that "sect of Jews" wants the Arabs dead, wether you like it or not.Aero5555

Zionism is purely a political movement inspired by Judaism. That much is true. Hollywood isn't ruled by Jews, but Zionists.

And I know they want us dead. That was not the point of my post. But thanks for driving the unintentional point across either way.

I dislike Zionism (it's just nationalism with a different name) but you're taking it much further than that.

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My post was not to bash any faith, including Judaism, nor was it to offend. And no, SNIPER, I'm not referring to Illuminati. Get outta this discussion. PLEASE.

Dark, sorry if I hit a nerve. But maybe you identify as a Zionist in a positive light while being oblivious to its true nature. Or maybe you're fooling yourself and others here. At the end of the day, I respect you and your religion. But facts are facts. Keep calling me a lying idiot if you wish. You're still a decent person to me. And I ain't changing my mind. (Yes, the media is controlled by Zionists, deal with the hate).

By the by, I was trying to make Jews and a significant number of Israelis look better. And you ruined it. Sorry.

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My post was not to bash any faith, including Judaism, nor was it to offend. And no, SNIPER, I'm not referring to Illuminati. Get outta this discussion. PLEASE.

Dark, sorry if I hit a nerve. But maybe you identify as a Zionist in a positive light while being oblivious to its true nature. Or maybe you're fooling yourself and others here. At the end of the day, I respect you and your religion. But facts are facts. Keep calling me a lying idiot if you wish. You're still a decent person to me. And I ain't changing my mind. (Yes, the media is controlled by Zionists, deal with the hate).

By the by, I was trying to make Jews and a significant number of Israelis look better. And you ruined it. Sorry.

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alot of wrong in that comment. 1) what do you mean "oblivious to its true nature"? are you honestly trying to tell me that I (and many others frankly) know less about Zionism than you? thats just hilarious, I can assure you us Jews know more about Zionism and its "true nature". with all due respect, don't talk about a people, who you know nothing about , want to ask a question? Id be happy to inform you, but don't tell me what I know and don't know about my own people. 2) never called you a lying idiot, I did say you were whitewashing , which is true. 3)with all due respect, I don't need you to make Jews look better, certainly not in that way. the moral of what I said is, learn about the people youre going to talk about, because quite honestly you know very little.
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#347 Aero5555
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Look, Dark. Chill the fvck out first and foremost. OK?

Maybe I worded my view of Zionism wrong. But my point is that the Israeli government, who openly act selfish and bloodlust against Palestine, isn't the public nor is it representative of Judaism.

I'll make this simple. I'm Norman Finkelstein in terms of my views of Israel and its supporters.

And f*** this thread.

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Look, Dark. Chill the fvck out first and foremost. OK?

Maybe I worded my view of Zionism wrong. But my point is that the Israeli government, who openly act selfish and bloodlust against Palestine, isn't the public nor is it representative of Judaism.

I'll make this simple. I'm Norman Finkelstein in terms of my views of Israel and its supporters.

And f*** this thread.

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Im actually quite calm , if you think this is bad, Im surprised , people from Israel have a very....blunt way of talking, and this is reflected in my English too. its not a matter of public or government, Zionism is an ideology, and yes, it exists on every level of society, not everybody are rushing to join Betar, but yeah it exists. saying its not Jews , its the Zionists is a bit like saying "its not all Americans, just the ones who have some respect for the constitution" . saying its not representative of Judaism is likewise stupid, the relation between Judaism and Zionism is more complex than just wheter its representative or not, Judaism does have a nationalist element in it, a strong one at that, really the biggest difference is that one comes from a religious standpoint, wheres the other comes from a secular/political standpoint . and telling me I somehow don't know about Jews or Zionism is hilarious, Imagine I told you "hey Aero , I know youre a Muslim , and an Arab, but i really know much more about Islam and Arabs than you, even if Ive never read the Koran , and my knowledge of Arabic amounts to nothing" sounds stupid? yeah , thats how I see it as for you sharing views with Norman Finkelstien , what is that supposed to tell me?
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#349 Aero5555
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and telling me I somehow don't know about Jews or Zionism is hilarious, Imagine I told you "hey Aero , I know youre a Muslim , and an Arab, but i really know much more about Islam and Arabs than you, even if Ive never read the Koran , and my knowledge of Arabic amounts to nothing" Darkman2007

Um, I never implied that you know more than me? :|

But yeah, I still believe you either only see the positive and deny the rest when you identify yourself as Zionist, or you're just simply not bringing it up. Maybe we're talking about two different things altogether? Whatever.

as for you sharing views with Norman Finkelstien , what is that supposed to tell me?Darkman2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivz06LZSWjY

I'm done here.

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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]and telling me I somehow don't know about Jews or Zionism is hilarious, Imagine I told you "hey Aero , I know youre a Muslim , and an Arab, but i really know much more about Islam and Arabs than you, even if Ive never read the Koran , and my knowledge of Arabic amounts to nothing" Aero5555

Um, I never implied that you know more than me? :|

But yeah, I still believe you either only see the positive and deny the rest when you identify yourself as Zionist, or you're just simply not bringing it up. Maybe we're talking about two different things altogether? Whatever.

as for you sharing views with Norman Finkelstien , what is that supposed to tell me?Darkman2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivz06LZSWjY

I'm done here.

what? seems like you need to reread what I said. again , you know nothing, I can assure you. and again , what exactly does this video tell me? very little so far. Id suggest that instead of hiding behind random videos, that you try and state some of the points and opinions you believe in , though funny he mentions his late parents being a holocaust survivor, as though that gives him something, every 2nd Jew can say that.