Which religion works better in modern times. Christianity or Islam?

Sorry, I meant I never implied I know about your own people more than you do.

And WTF are you talking about? Share my views? I've been speaking my mind all this time. I'm a Muslim, so it doesn't take a genius to know what my general view on Israel and its Zionist interpretatoon is. Add to it my shared view that their holocaust excuse is exhausted and not valid anymore. Considering what the government's done to the Palestian public since its establishment. What a fvcking joke. And no, it's not a "random" video. The man speaks truth and is ashamed of what Israel has done to his reputation and the reputation of his religion and its followers.

Please stop asking me to explain myself further. I'm done. If you didn't butt in and state the fact that Jews want the Arabs dead this would've never dragged.

Sorry, I meant I never implied I know about your own people more than you do.

And WTF are you talking about? Share my views? I've been speaking my mind all this time. I'm a Muslim, so it doesn't take a genius to know what my general view on Israel and its Zionist interpretatoon is. Add to it my shared view that their holocaust excuse is exhausted and not valid anymore. Considering what the government's done to the Palestian public since its establishment. What a fvcking joke. And no, it's not a "random" video. The man speaks truth and is ashamed of what Israel has done to his reputation and the reputation of his religion and its followers.

Please stop asking me to explain myself further. I'm done. If you didn't butt in and state the fact that Jews want the Arabs dead this would've never dragged.

Aero5555

yes , its a random video , he is ashamed of Israel , and us Jews are ashamed of him , whats your point? you say the "excuse is exhausted, but then give me a video of a guy who uses the holocaust as an excuse to justify what he says? clever. but of course you want to use him as a shield for your views (using the fact that he was born a Jew to someone give you a kosher approval), when really it means very little, you can find alot of people who say alot of thing, so far, you are indeed hiding behind the views of someone else, mostly because you yourself do not know very much. .Darkman2007

I'm sorry, but you're full of shi* if you keep insisting I'm hiding behind someone's views. WTF are you on? Seriously? No wonder Israel supporters get so much hate. Man, this is so pathetic I'm laughing my ass off here. Oh my God. So the holocaust gives them the right to slaughter all those Palestinians for all these years?

I'm done. Seriously, I'm done. Fvck me. LMFAO!

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]yes , its a random video , he is ashamed of Israel , and us Jews are ashamed of him , whats your point? you say the "excuse is exhausted, but then give me a video of a guy who uses the holocaust as an excuse to justify what he says? clever. but of course you want to use him as a shield for your views (using the fact that he was born a Jew to someone give you a kosher approval), when really it means very little, you can find alot of people who say alot of thing, so far, you are indeed hiding behind the views of someone else, mostly because you yourself do not know very much. .Aero5555

I'm sorry, but you're full of shi* if you keep insisting I'm hiding behind someone's views. WTF are you on? Seriously? No wonder Israel supporters get so much hate. Man, this is so pathetic I'm laughing my ass off here. Oh my God. So the holocaust gives them the right to slaughter all those Palestinians for all these years?

I'm done. Seriously, I'm done. Fvck me. LMFAO!

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]yes , its a random video , he is ashamed of Israel , and us Jews are ashamed of him , whats your point? you say the "excuse is exhausted, but then give me a video of a guy who uses the holocaust as an excuse to justify what he says? clever. but of course you want to use him as a shield for your views (using the fact that he was born a Jew to someone give you a kosher approval), when really it means very little, you can find alot of people who say alot of thing, so far, you are indeed hiding behind the views of someone else, mostly because you yourself do not know very much. .Aero5555

I'm sorry, but you're full of shi* if you keep insisting I'm hiding behind someone's views. WTF are you on? Seriously? No wonder Israel supporters get so much hate. Man, this is so pathetic I'm laughing my ass off here. Oh my God. So the holocaust gives them the right to slaughter all those Palestinians for all these years?

I'm done. Seriously, I'm done. Fvck me. LMFAO!

Just what we needed. another saudi to cavort with grayfox&fize et al.pie-junior

The majority of the world are waking up to the fact that Israel is a criminally murderous state. If Palestine kill one person they slaughter triple the count in response. Get your facts straight. I'm not a Jew hater.

And Dark, I read all your posts very well. You talk like the Israeli government. I'm done with that discussion.

[QUOTE="pie-junior"]Just what we needed. another saudi to cavort with grayfox&fize et al.Aero5555

[QUOTE="pie-junior"]Just what we needed. another saudi to cavort with grayfox&fize et al.Aero5555

The majority of the world are waking up to the fact that Israel is a criminally murderous state. If Palestine kill one person they slaughter triple the count in response. Get your facts straight. I'm not a Jew hater.

And Dark, I read all your posts very well. You talk like the Israeli government. I'm done with that discussion.

Yes you are lolthemajormayor

Which is why I took the time to exclude Zionism from Judaism and specifically state that I respect Judaism as a faith. Not to mention my post about the ultra orthodox jews. Makes sense :roll:

I hate Israel as a state. Deal with it.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Yes you are lolAero5555

Which is why I took the time to exclude Zionism from Judaism and specifically state that I respect Judaism as a faith. Not to mention my post about the ultra orthodox jews. Makes sense :roll:

I hate Israel as a state. Deal with it.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Yes you are lolAero5555

Which is why I took the time to exclude Zionism from Judaism and specifically state that I respect Judaism as a faith. Not to mention my post about the ultra orthodox jews. Makes sense :roll:

I hate Israel as a state. Deal with it.

Get your facts straight. I'm not a Jew hater.

Aero5555

Are you a saudi who cavorts with grayfox and fize, on this board?

Y/N

Now, beyond that point- you occupy yourself, like so many in the muslim middle-east, with (beyond the obvious anti-Israeli diatribes) conspiratorial rethoric centered around so-called 'zionists'. Zionists, who in your worldview (which is not unrelated to prophetic religious belief) control anything and are the ultimate enemies of humankind.

I could go on about how unsubstantiated and how founded in ignorance this politically born world view is- but I won't. I will, however, say that it sounds as if you don't hate judaism or jews who ascribe to your worldview- but you do hate the majority of worldwide Jewry (who are, by your definition 'zionists' or zionist sympathizers). ipso facto- you hate jews, but not judaism. k?

I hate judaism but not jews, lets Ebony and ivory

You don't believe Jews have the same rights as other people. But you are not anti-semitic cause you "respect" some religion? themajormayor

.... Wut?

Who said anything about rights? Is what Israel doing considered right or even humane? No. Do I believe all Jews are evil? No. Are they human and have the right to practice their religion? Yes. Where's the anti-semitism? Or is Israel's right to exist part of their faith now too?

Don't answer that. My point is you're bending my words.

Which is why I took the time to exclude Zionism from Judaism and specifically state that I respect Judaism as a faith. Not to mention my post about the ultra orthodox jews. Aero5555

[QUOTE="Aero5555"]Which is why I took the time to exclude Zionism from Judaism and specifically state that I respect Judaism as a faith. Not to mention my post about the ultra orthodox jews. pie-junior

This is what any civil Muslim does. We even marry Jews or are allowed to. You know me from the Saudi thread(s). Stop spouting nonsense and making me look racist.

Stop making me look racist.

Aero5555

u first

I'm just working with the material i'm handed.

don't bother with this thread, let it rot away...

This is what any civil Muslim does.

Aero5555

Civil persons don't, usually, unequivocally believe and aspire for the destruction of another nation.

maybe muslims aren't really all that civil, then?

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]You don't believe Jews have the same rights as other people. But you are not anti-semitic cause you "respect" some religion? Aero5555

.... Wut?

Who said anything about rights? Is what Israel doing considered right or even humane? No. Do I believe all Jews are evil? No. Are they human and have the right to practice their religion? Yes. Where's the anti-semitism? Or is Israel's right to exist part of their faith now too?

Don't answer that. My point is you're bending my words.

[QUOTE="Aero5555"]

This is what any civil Muslim does.

pie-junior

Civil persons don't, usually, unequivocally believe and aspire for the destruction of another nation.

maybe muslims aren't really all that civil, then?

Pie, what are you talking about? You Israeli or Jewish? Here's the deal.

Israeli = Read my posts 2 pages back. The whole chain.

Jewish = I made my stance perfectly clear. Zionism is purely political.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]You don't believe Jews have the same rights as other people. But you are not anti-semitic cause you "respect" some religion? Aero5555

.... Wut?

Who said anything about rights?

You said Zionism (the RIGHT of Jews for self-determination)

Is what Israel doing considered right or even humane?

Yes

Do I believe all Jews are evil?

I wouldn't know your reason for denying them rights.

Are they human and have the right to practice their religion? Yes.

How generous

Where's the anti-semitism? Or is Israel's right to exist part of their faith now too?

Yes it is actually. But that is irrelevant actually.

Don't answer that. My point is you're bending my words.

Pie, what are you talking about? You Israeli or Jewish? Here's the deal.

Israeli = Read my posts 2 pages back. The whole chain.

Jewish = I made my stance perfectly clear. Zionism is purely political.

Aero5555

[QUOTE="Aero5555"]

Pie, what are you talking about? You Israeli or Jewish? Here's the deal.

Israeli = Read my posts 2 pages back. The whole chain.

Jewish = I made my stance perfectly clear. Zionism is purely political.

Allthishate

[QUOTE="Aero5555"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]You don't believe Jews have the same rights as other people. But you are not anti-semitic cause you "respect" some religion? Allthishate

.... Wut?

Who said anything about rights? Is what Israel doing considered right or even humane? No. Do I believe all Jews are evil? No. Are they human and have the right to practice their religion? Yes. Where's the anti-semitism? Or is Israel's right to exist part of their faith now too?

Don't answer that. My point is you're bending my words.

DONT BOTHER THEY ARE BOTH JEWS AND TROLLS. the only one i bother responding 2 is darkmen the other 2 are not worth your time. Allthishate

I got that. I'm just trying to prove the point that Israeli politics are full of shi*. Thanks for the heads up though. I'm done here.

/thread

Israeli = Read my posts 2 pages back. The whole chain.Aero5555

neither one s what i would call acceptable or "works" for modern times but i dislike islam more

[QUOTE="FreddyJeffery"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

What's backwards about loving your neighbour?

:(

Ilovegames1992

Did Jesus mention gays...? I genuinely can't remember.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="FreddyJeffery"] If your neighbor is the same-sex as you that line does not apply and its against the book.LJS9502_basic

Did Jesus mention gays...? I genuinely can't remember.

The OT is embedded in Christian thought and theology BossPerson

Speaking as a Catholic, the largest denomination of Christians, I can tell you that only select readings from the OT are used during Mass and are used as I said.....a history and a prophesy. The BASIS for the religion is the NT. Oftentimes an OT reading is contrasted with an NT reading and explained why the difference exists.

But to say Christianity is following the Jewish rules/regulations/religion shows a lack of education toward both religions.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Did Jesus mention gays...? I genuinely can't remember.

Darkman2007

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]The OT is embedded in Christian thought and theology LJS9502_basic

Speaking as a Catholic, the largest denomination of Christians, I can tell you that only select readings from the OT are used during Mass and are used as I said.....a history and a prophesy. The BASIS for the religion is the NT. Oftentimes an OT reading is contrasted with an NT reading and explained why the difference exists.

But to say Christianity is following the Jewish rules/regulations/religion shows a lack of education toward both religions.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]The OT is embedded in Christian thought and theology BossPerson

Speaking as a Catholic, the largest denomination of Christians, I can tell you that only select readings from the OT are used during Mass and are used as I said.....a history and a prophesy. The BASIS for the religion is the NT. Oftentimes an OT reading is contrasted with an NT reading and explained why the difference exists.

But to say Christianity is following the Jewish rules/regulations/religion shows a lack of education toward both religions.

"Religion is a crutch for weak-minded people."-Jesse Ventura. No religion would be far better.

The world would be a MUCH better place if Islam did not exist.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]The OT is embedded in Christian thought and theology BossPerson

Speaking as a Catholic, the largest denomination of Christians, I can tell you that only select readings from the OT are used during Mass and are used as I said.....a history and a prophesy. The BASIS for the religion is the NT. Oftentimes an OT reading is contrasted with an NT reading and explained why the difference exists.

But to say Christianity is following the Jewish rules/regulations/religion shows a lack of education toward both religions.

I love it when christians treat the bible, especially the OT like an all you can eat buffet. Take what you want, leave what you don't like, etc. Why anyone could think either the OT or the NT is worthy of following is beyond me.

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The most misunderstood concept of the Christian religion. The OT is included in the Bible as the history of God's relationship with his people and the passages that Christians consider to prophesy the coming of the Messiah...IE Jesus. But Christians do NOT follow the Jewish religion.

Speaking as a Catholic, the largest denomination of Christians, I can tell you that only select readings from the OT are used during Mass and are used as I said.....a history and a prophesy. The BASIS for the religion is the NT. Oftentimes an OT reading is contrasted with an NT reading and explained why the difference exists.

But to say Christianity is following the Jewish rules/regulations/religion shows a lack of education toward both religions.

Darkman2007

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]........yea I know. The Old Testament is still embedded in Christian thought though. And that's where the main source of the anti-gay views come from. hiphops_savior

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gay/long.htm

Have fun with that one

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] the interesting thing is that neither ancient Greece or Rome had any hate of gays (not to this level) , so its interesting that Christianity adopted the opposite choice (given the fact most early Christians were members of those 2 cultures).wis3boi

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gay/long.htm

Have fun with that one

Islam is a religion of popular revolt and insurrection against unnatural powers.

Christianity is a religion of docile obedience and slavery to the will of the state.

Modern times (Europe/USA) = Obedience to the state = Christianity

Islam is a religion of popular revolt and insurrection against unnatural powers.

Christianity is a religion of docile obedience and slavery to the will of the state.

Modern times (Europe/USA) = Obedience to the state = Christianity

ZombieKiller7

Surely you then accept the notion that the story of Noah for example is impossible? There is zero chance that he was able to house all forms of life in pairs with enough food and resources for him and six other humans plus and animal for 40 days in a boat that wasn't even half the size of the Titanic. The Titanic itself only stored enough food to feed 3000 people for two weeks and it was over twice the size. There is zero logic when it comes to the acceptance of a religious belief and this is why I remain agonistic.

Yusuke420

Islam is a religion of popular revolt and insurrection against unnatural powers.

Christianity is a religion of docile obedience and slavery to the will of the state.

Modern times (Europe/USA) = Obedience to the state = Christianity

ZombieKiller7

Islam is a religion of popular revolt and insurrection against unnatural powers.

Christianity is a religion of docile obedience and slavery to the will of the state.

Modern times (Europe/USA) = Obedience to the state = Christianity

ZombieKiller7

Lets see.

Christian Extremists = Mostly just trolls(Westboro church, republicans, etc.).

Muslim Extremists = homicidal savages(Middle east, etc.).

I'll go with the bible nuts.