"White Privilege video" shown at Virginia school

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@AM-Gamer: That depends on your definition. What would you call a success and what is a failure? If it's money I have no problem there. I am happily married and have a wonderful family and many good natured intelligent friends. I would say I'm doing ok, you?

A lot of outrage at my posts expressing the fact that racism exists. Seems kind of telling to me.

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@neoprime: I can't even comprehend the ignorance in your post so I'm going to try to to give you some facts and you can take them as you will.

1. According to FBI stats 52% of people murdered by police were white and 30% we're black. Despite blacks making up only 13% of the population they commit over 50% of the violent crimes.

2. Of white people murdered 72% we're murdered by other whites while 20% we're murdered by blacks. Of black people murdered 90% we're murdered by other blacks while 4% we're murdered by whites.

3. The Boston bomber was of Arab decent how you manage to group him with whites is laughable.

You label the poor Muslim boy who brought a clock to class as brown and the Muslim bomber as white? Do you paint all villains as white?

How about we talk about black privilege? The privilege to have a celebrity celebrate a racial hate group such as the black panthers at the Superbowl halftime show. Then watch the media defend this group eventhough they have been convicted of over 15 murders of white people since there existence. Or how about when a mob of 15 black males beat a white kid half to death in Cincinnati it somehow doesn't get labeled a hate crime? Or how about despite making up 13% of the US population they hold 18% of the Federal jobs?

White privilege is a burden and a simple excuse to blame those for your failure.

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look at that! A racist who isn't afraid to admit it. And you guys try to tell me it doesn't exist!

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@neoprime said:
@lamprey263 said:

I support what the schools are trying to say just not the way they go about it, such a video is vague to an outsider and each of these topics really needs to be explored by themselves. I've a feeling that the plight of people of color would be more apparent in their historical context. It's about show, not tell.

Not sure what was vague about this video, i watched it with the sound off and could see exactly what they were saying, and its all true unfortunately.

it's vague in the sense that it's merely lists off a bunch of negative sociological concepts, like I said show not tell, I think expanding on each of those concepts, like say introducing course work that explores each of these concepts of historical human plight and how it shapes the current sociological condition, that plus play on our natural ability to sympathize/empathize with the human experience, that would go a longer way to hammer home these concepts than just to preach it

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@Riverwolf007:

hysteria at all.

good point but there is something called 'righteousness' ... it makes all the difference

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@mark1974 said:

look at that! A racist who isn't afraid to admit it. And you guys try to tell me it doesn't exist!

Facts are facts, it's just that nobody wants to accept reality.

Reality is hard, but can be worked through.

Fantasy is easy but offers no solutions.

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@servomaster said:

Facts are facts, it's just that nobody wants to accept reality.

Reality is hard, but can be worked through.

Fantasy is easy but offers no solutions.

I am glad there is 'natural selection' to deal with that kind of evolutional deadend ^^

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@servomaster: At least you are honest. That's more than I can say for some on here.

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@servomaster said:

Facts are facts, it's just that nobody wants to accept reality.

Reality is hard, but can be worked through.

Fantasy is easy but offers no solutions.

Why should they accept reality when it is easier to blame others?

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@servomaster: At least you are honest. That's more than I can say for some on here.

What does that even mean? I just believe in science.

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@servomaster: So you are saying science has proven black people have lower IQs. This means you find them inferior. Correct? This is just about a perfect example of what is referred to as racism. I am glad you acknowledge this. It's refreshing in this day and age of closet racists.

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@mark1974 said:

@servomaster: So you are saying science has proven black people have lower IQs. This means you find them inferior. Correct? This is just about a perfect example of what is referred to as racism. I am glad you acknowledge this. It's refreshing in this day and age of closet racists.

Reality is racist?

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I'm done with this but you guys can carry on. It's giving me a dim view of humanity and I feel like I need a shower.

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@mark1974: Yes I would say OK? So please explain how white privilege holds you down? Unless you are a classic white guilt liberal who's been brainwashed and you want to speak for others, It doesn't as simple as that. If someone of color has the ability to make a company more successful are they going to be denied the job because the color of there skin? No...

Racial bias does exist but does that make you a racist? That's the problem with society, is any comment from whites that doesn't push the left agenda and you are considered a Neo Nazi. That's what white privilege gets you the ability to lose your entire career for speaking your mind.

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@omotih: it's called self righteousness.

And it is what happens when a bunch of self important delusional do gooders that are in denial want to talk about systems of oppression when their entire existence is based on the slave labor of oppressed peoples.

Your clothing, electronics and food is created by the most ruthless unfair exploitative system that has ever existed and we are all balls deep in it.

Nobody has moral high ground when it comes to oppression.

You and I personally cause more misery on a larger scale than any slave owner in the antebellum south ever did.

Every single one of us is a villian and everyone is too far up their own asses to see it.

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@mark1974 said:

I'm done with this but you guys can carry on. It's giving me a dim view of humanity and I feel like I need a shower.

You never really even addressed me.

I just brought up some facts.

You called me a racist.

Never really discussing them.

This is what is wrong on the left these days. It just doesn't even listen. It just lgnores facts.

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@omotih: it's called self righteousness.

And it is what happens when a bunch of self important delusional do gooders that are in denial want to talk about systems of oppression when their entire existence is based on the slave labor of oppressed peoples.

Your clothing, electronics and food is created by the most ruthless unfair exploitative system that has ever existed and we are all balls deep in it.

Nobody has moral high ground when it comes to oppression.

You and I personally cause more misery on a larger scale than any slave owner in the antebellum south ever did.

Every single one of us is a villian and everyone is too far up their own asses to see it.

It is interesting that whites get far more heat for slavery (even though only about 1% of whites of that era owned slaves) but that arabs had a much much larger slave trade.

Shows who the real racists are.

*hint people who ignore history

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@employee427 said:

White Privilege is a myth

This

What's worse is that so many people are taking on white guilt

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@Serraph105: The world is completely unfair. Asian college applicants requires much much muuuuuuuch higher GPA and SAT scores to get accepted into the same school than other ethnicity. Completely unfair.

And the number of Asian TV/Film/Commercial roles is only less than 1 percent of roles in USA. So the discrimination is totally real.

We Asians are the new slaves where we have to work extra hard to get into the same school. And once we are out of school, we have to pay tax to feed the people who are entitled to social programs.

It's why I only go to Asian and Arab doctors.

I don't care if I get called racist.

I care if I live.

I don't care about being politically correct.

I'll go to the doctor that had to work twice as hard or be twice as clever.

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@servomaster said:

It's why I only go to Asian and Arab doctors.

I don't care if I get called racist.

I care if I live.

I don't care about being politically correct.

I'll go to the doctor that had to work twice as hard or be twice as clever.

50 % of all doctors finished in the bottom half of their class.

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Who takes this crap seriously? White Privileges are in theories and a shaky one at that.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@servomaster said:

It's why I only go to Asian and Arab doctors.

I don't care if I get called racist.

I care if I live.

I don't care about being politically correct.

I'll go to the doctor that had to work twice as hard or be twice as clever.

50 % of all doctors finished in the bottom half of their class.

and asians/arabs are less likely to be there.

numbers game.

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@servomaster said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

50 % of all doctors finished in the bottom half of their class.

and asians/arabs are less likely to be there.

numbers game.

Not true. And you haven't provided any link justifying that so it's pretty much just an opinion dude.

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@servomaster said:
@Riverwolf007 said:

@omotih: it's called self righteousness.

And it is what happens when a bunch of self important delusional do gooders that are in denial want to talk about systems of oppression when their entire existence is based on the slave labor of oppressed peoples.

Your clothing, electronics and food is created by the most ruthless unfair exploitative system that has ever existed and we are all balls deep in it.

Nobody has moral high ground when it comes to oppression.

You and I personally cause more misery on a larger scale than any slave owner in the antebellum south ever did.

Every single one of us is a villian and everyone is too far up their own asses to see it.

It is interesting that whites get far more heat for slavery (even though only about 1% of whites of that era owned slaves) but that arabs had a much much larger slave trade.

Shows who the real racists are.

*hint people who ignore history

It's not just about slavery in the United States. It's also the failure of reconstruction after the Civil War, white supremacy, Jim Crow, rioting, lynching, and discrimination. For someone who says, "People who ignore history," you're ignoring a huge chunk of history of race relations in the United States. For example, take a look into the Tulsa Riots. No they weren't started by blacks but by a whites who accused a bellboy of raping a white woman (a false accusation btw) and causing major rioting and looting and were never punished for their crimes. You had black Americans who fought bravely and honorably during World War I (look up the Harlem Hellfighters), yet were denied service medals and equal treatment simply because they were black. Lets not forget the lynchings, false accusations, KKK terrorism, and Jim Crow that continued on even up to the 1960s. Hell even today discrimination and prejudice continue on and you are a great example of this by making comments that blacks have "a lower IQ."

We're all born equal but depending on what life gives us, we can either benefit or become disadvantaged from it. A kid who grows up in a wealthier house is going to have access to a better schooling and opportunities where as some other kid in the Bronx might not. It's not definite, it's a case-by-case basis that depends on many, many circumstances mixed with some luck.

Unfortunately, blacks are more likely to be disadvantaged by this than anyone else and more likely to be stereotyped, therefore discriminated against. Of course, this includes all minorities, from Asians to Muslims to Jews to whomever.

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@drunk_pi: Perhaps if one isn't interested in bettering their station. There are programs that give aid....and even if one's school district isn't the best one does get out what one puts into it. So if you're willing to fall into the general disinterest of anything educational which is a big problem today in schools then you are hurting yourself. A new mind set is imperative. There are more issues but I doubt anyone will discuss them seriously here so I'll just say that people can rise above their economic station. It's not going to be easy but nothing worthwhile is.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@servomaster said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

50 % of all doctors finished in the bottom half of their class.

and asians/arabs are less likely to be there.

numbers game.

Not true. And you haven't provided any link justifying that so it's pretty much just an opinion dude.

asians have a more difficult time getting into medical school.

They can get rejected for doing the same thing that another minority got accepted with.

This is comon knowledge dude.

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Stereotypes exist for a reason. These things didn't fall out of thin air.

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@drunk_pi said:
@servomaster said:
@Riverwolf007 said:

@omotih: it's called self righteousness.

And it is what happens when a bunch of self important delusional do gooders that are in denial want to talk about systems of oppression when their entire existence is based on the slave labor of oppressed peoples.

Your clothing, electronics and food is created by the most ruthless unfair exploitative system that has ever existed and we are all balls deep in it.

Nobody has moral high ground when it comes to oppression.

You and I personally cause more misery on a larger scale than any slave owner in the antebellum south ever did.

Every single one of us is a villian and everyone is too far up their own asses to see it.

It is interesting that whites get far more heat for slavery (even though only about 1% of whites of that era owned slaves) but that arabs had a much much larger slave trade.

Shows who the real racists are.

*hint people who ignore history

It's not just about slavery in the United States. It's also the failure of reconstruction after the Civil War, white supremacy, Jim Crow, rioting, lynching, and discrimination. For someone who says, "People who ignore history," you're ignoring a huge chunk of history of race relations in the United States. For example, take a look into the Tulsa Riots. No they weren't started by blacks but by a whites who accused a bellboy of raping a white woman (a false accusation btw) and causing major rioting and looting and were never punished for their crimes. You had black Americans who fought bravely and honorably during World War I (look up the Harlem Hellfighters), yet were denied service medals and equal treatment simply because they were black. Lets not forget the lynchings, false accusations, KKK terrorism, and Jim Crow that continued on even up to the 1960s. Hell even today discrimination and prejudice continue on and you are a great example of this by making comments that blacks have "a lower IQ."

We're all born equal but depending on what life gives us, we can either benefit or become disadvantaged from it. A kid who grows up in a wealthier house is going to have access to a better schooling and opportunities where as some other kid in the Bronx might not. It's not definite, it's a case-by-case basis that depends on many, many circumstances mixed with some luck.

Unfortunately, blacks are more likely to be disadvantaged by this than anyone else and more likely to be stereotyped, therefore discriminated against. Of course, this includes all minorities, from Asians to Muslims to Jews to whomever.

Where in my post did I say those things didnt happen?

The IQ thing is true though. Science. Guess what? IQ is inheritable. There's tons of science backing that. Who would have thought that different groups of people developing independently would have dfferent traits?

I'm seeing a lot of people looking for excuses for failures, and that seems to be a trend with this generation.

Discrimination exists, but it's overstated and used as an excuse.

I always point this out but get half assed answers. If minorities are unable to pull themselves up, then how come asians are doing better than whites?

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@magicalclick said:

@servomaster: You made some good point. :)

Not saying Asians are better. I have seen many some ridiculous brilliant non-Asians in engineering school. Of course, you can spot those people miles away. XD

Yes, it's not an "all" thing.

I'm not saying Asians are going to be better than doctors.

I'm saying it's more likely that they will.

It's just a statistics thing.

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@omotih: you are full of shit. American cops deal with a heavily armed population. Do you want them to go out there with daisies and chocolates?

And german cops will probably be dealing with the same stuff soon enough seeing as how gun demand in germany is going through the roof for reasons we dare not talk about. Go ahead and google up "germany gun demand" and see what the results bring up.

Again you are talking about stuff you obviously know nothing about. Gun demand in Germany? Lulz, we're talking about stun guns and other non lethal stuff here. It's nearly impossible for an ordinary citizen to actually get a gun license here.

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I like this, and how the police guys react to it ^^

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@nethernova said:
@Riverwolf007 said:

@omotih: you are full of shit. American cops deal with a heavily armed population. Do you want them to go out there with daisies and chocolates?

And german cops will probably be dealing with the same stuff soon enough seeing as how gun demand in germany is going through the roof for reasons we dare not talk about. Go ahead and google up "germany gun demand" and see what the results bring up.

Again you are talking about stuff you obviously know nothing about. Gun demand in Germany? Lulz, we're talking about stun guns and other non lethal stuff here. It's nearly impossible for an ordinary citizen to actually get a gun license here.

ok, so they are air guns and stun guns and pepper spray.

does that really change the point all that much?

are the cops still not dealing with a more dangerous public?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/12100478/Airgun-sales-in-Cologne-rise-sharply-after-New-Years-Eve-sex-attacks.html

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7088/germany-weapons

https://global.handelsblatt.com/edition/364/ressort/companies-markets/article/german-weapons-sales-boom

http://www.ibtimes.com/refugee-crisis-germany-nonlethal-weapon-licenses-increase-amid-surge-asylum-seekers-2300113

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@omotih said:

I like this, and how the police guys react to it ^^

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heaven forbid they shoot a criminal during the commission of a crime that is in the act of grabbing a cops gun. what a horrible tragedy that would be.

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@Riverwolf007 said:
@omotih said:

I like this, and how the police guys react to it ^^

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heaven forbid they shoot a criminal during the commission of a crime that is in the act of grabbing a cops gun. what a horrible tragedy that would be.

Wow really? The guy in the video suggested not to bother with his device if it would take more than three seconds to end up shooting the gun. His argument is nuanced and your response is basically that if people are doing bad things than **** it they deserve to get shot.

In your scenario the guy who is selling the device to make a gun less lethal would likely agree with you not to bother using his product, but that doesn't seem to matter to you. It sounds like you believe a bullet wound (provided it doesn't kill the person) to be an acceptable teaching tool should a person break a law.

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@Serraph105: to stop someone from taking yours or a bystanders life?

yep, that is pretty much exactly what i believe.

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@Serraph105: to stop someone from taking yours or a bystanders life?

yep, that is pretty much exactly what i believe.

Again, you seem to be intentionally ignoring the fact that cops are discouraged from using the device if lives are in danger.

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If lives are not in danger why would you shoot at all?

does that really make any sense to you?

how can you guys not pick this shit apart as soon as you see it?

Hey everyone, lets solve our trigger happy cop problem by giving them nonlethal weapons that kill and maim people all the time and encouraging them to fire at people commiting minor ass property crimes.

Yeah. Sounds like a plan.

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@nethernova said:

Again you are talking about stuff you obviously know nothing about. Gun demand in Germany? Lulz, we're talking about stun guns and other non lethal stuff here. It's nearly impossible for an ordinary citizen to actually get a gun license here.

I guess you folks learned absolutely nothing from The Third Reich and the extermination of millions of people. Hell, even if you people need a more recent lesson, how about the GDR?

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@neoprime said:
@employee427 said:

White Privilege is a myth crafted by SJWs to shame innocent people.

Black man gets harassed by cops for doing nothing illegal, goes to walk away and gets shot 15 times in the back. White man gets harassed by cops for doing nothing illegal...oh wait.

Your theory debunked right there.

Here's another one: Cops get called out because of a black man wielding a machete, cops shoot him dead. Cops get called out because of a white man wielding a machete. Gets tasered and survives.

Do i need to carry on? Take your SJW BS and shove it. There's legitimate problems with race in our society and anyone diluting a serious issue like that down to just being some sort of stupid SJW shit needs a swift kicking in the ass.

There's legitimate problems such as uneducated cretins like you who take anecdotes and pretend those are problems that affect the entire nation. How about the fact that in a crushing majority (something like more than 80%) of interracial crime the perp is black or the fact that most crimes in general are done by blacks? Oh and how about all the media biz that comes when a white on black crime happens, while black on white crimes always goes unreported? All those things are "white privilege" too?

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#95 N30F3N1X
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@mark1974 said:

@servomaster: So you are saying science has proven black people have lower IQs. This means you find them inferior. Correct? This is just about a perfect example of what is referred to as racism. I am glad you acknowledge this. It's refreshing in this day and age of closet racists.

Say blacks are better athletes and everyone says "okay"

Say whites are better thinkers and you'll have SJWs crawling up your social media feed to call you a racist.

Apparently we have to ignore reality because some birdshit brained people can't deal with facts.

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#96 lostrib
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Definitely can see why people would be upset. Doesnt seem appropriate

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#97  Edited By servomaster
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@N30F3N1X said:
@mark1974 said:

@servomaster: So you are saying science has proven black people have lower IQs. This means you find them inferior. Correct? This is just about a perfect example of what is referred to as racism. I am glad you acknowledge this. It's refreshing in this day and age of closet racists.

Say blacks are better athletes and everyone says "okay"

Say whites are better thinkers and you'll have SJWs crawling up your social media feed to call you a racist.

Apparently we have to ignore reality because some birdshit brained people can't deal with facts.

That's it in a nutshell.

People's feelings.

Nobody wants to accept that maybe blacks aren't dong well because of the popular anti intellectual culture that glorifies womanization and crime.

Fatherless homes.

Parents that don't enphasize hard work or education.

Or even something as simple as intelligence.

Because that's hard. Reality is hard, and it's easy to create imaginary narratives.

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#98 turtlethetaffer
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Way I see it, I understand that my standing as a white male has given me opportunities that others haven't. That being said, I have nothing against anyone unless they're an asshole and I think that everyone SHOULD be equal. As far as my ancestors go, that was them, not me.

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#99 Solaryellow
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@N30F3N1X said:

There's legitimate problems such as uneducated cretins like you who take anecdotes and pretend those are problems that affect the entire nation. How about the fact that in a crushing majority (something like more than 80%) of interracial crime the perp is black or the fact that most crimes in general are done by blacks? Oh and how about all the media biz that comes when a white on black crime happens, while black on white crimes always goes unreported? All those things are "white privilege" too?

Someone in the majority is only supposed to mention positive things about those in the minority. Speaking the truth, if it hurts, is frowned upon. You can not speak of the abnormally high amount of crime committed by blacks even when our own government has the statistics to proven such a notion.

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#100 sayyy-gaa
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I don't get all this recent chatter about white privilege. It does exist. It is real. However it is much less evident now than it was one generation ago. My parents went to segregated schools and weren't allowed in certain restaurants growing up. We have come a loooong way. Instead of talking about it let's all DO something about it.