"White Privilege video" shown at Virginia school

I understood your points, they rested on stupid assumptions. I addressed one of those stupid assumptions.

The only assumption you addressed was put in conjunction with another one, and even if it wasn't you'd still be wrong. We are talking specifically of third wave feminism and the pictures you posted were of second wave feminists.

Go put this on.

@N30F3N1X: I could easily post pictures of gorgeous third wave feminists as well. I could easily demonstrate many are intelligent. I'm not going to bother, since every single person who is not an idiot or willfully ignorant already knows there are beautiful and intelligent feminists. You tried to base a point about feminists on a truly stupid stereotype. Rather than admit it was a dumb thing to say you attack and deflect.

What's truly sad is you probably don't even recognize your own hypocrisy in saying that feminists (a term millions of women would self-identify as being) just want to tear others down in order to obfuscate or feel better about having little aesthetic or intellectual worth. Just like most people who attack movements that seek to address the consequences of long term discrimination accuse those groups of trying to divide, failing to understand that historical actions created those divisions, and ignoring or dismissing those realities rather than trying to deal with them is itself a form of continuing discrimination.I agree we need to better ourselves, and we do just the opposite by ignoring and pretending the consequences of historical actions are not still with us.

As I said, your reading comprehension sucks. I didn't base a point on anything. I wasn't the one who wrote those things. I just replied to your comment because in your attempt at confuting a point you showed you didn't understand what you just read.

Speaking of which, I'll extend the last phrase about you not understanding what you just read and call bullshit on the rest of your post too. While I too think servomaster's assumption of feminists being unattractive isn't a particularly brilliant one to do, one of the many dumb ass ideas that modern day degenerate feminists have is that they have to "challenge" our beauty standards. Find me an intelligent and good looking woman who believes this nonsense (hint: beauty, intellect and thinking beauty standards need to be challenged aren't things that go well together), I'll be waiting eagerly.

Sorry, your right. When you responded I failed to double check the author as I couldn't conceive I would run into two people who could support such an ignorant proposition in the same day. I personally don't feel that reflects much on my reading comprehension, but you're entitled to your opinion.

Challenging beauty standards is not unique to modern feminism. Even prior to second wave feminists you had heroes of the feminist movement like Marlene Dietrech (that dog) and Coco Chanel trying to remove the power of societal expectations from what it means to be an ideal woman. I can't imagine posting the name or picture of a beautiful woman who believes society has unrealistic demands of women as far as looks that you will not instantly dismiss as unintelligent. I would go so far as to say that the vast majority of intellectual feminists at one time or another have commented on this question and certainly Simone de Beauvoir, who was obviously an objectively intelligent, objectively beautiful woman talked about the damage done to a girl as she comes into her flesh in adolescence with the eyes of men and judgments of women, including her mother, upon her looks in a way different than and more harmful than men experience and suggesting that in age this may improve as she may reach a point that “She can also permit herself defiance of fashion and of ‘what people will say’, she is freed from social obligations, dieting, and the care of her beauty.” At the very least I can't imagine her not being openly sympathetic with women trying to bring equality of effort in looks.

@Seiki_sands said:

@servomaster said:

@sSubZerOo said:

@servomaster said:

I'm just baffled that they don't realize that they are themselves racist/sexist.

Which leads me to believe the movement is ran by sociopaths.. You can't be crying out feminism how nasty things said on twitter is giving you PTSD, while tivilizing or ignoring soldiers suffering from PTSD.. Or my personal favorite SJW fighting out against mental health of women, when completely ignoring the fact that men commit suicide by a massive MASSIVE margin more.. To me this just feels like they either don't care or they have completely lost their grip with reality and think every one is against them..

Another personal favorite of mine is the "academic" research paper that concludes that carbon fiber, a freaking building material, is sexist and represent the patriarch.. I thought this had to be a sick joke until I saw the paper my self.

I feel like the whole movement is just based on the idea that people who contribute nothing, should be worthy of getting everything. Rather than people who earn it or are productive members of socioty.

Take feminists for example. Google some of the images and articles that they've written, and it becomes apparent very quickly that they're not very intelligent or aesthetically appealing, and thus have low value to men. I'm not saying this to be a dick, but you are only worth what you produce, and if you aren't producing qualities that make you appealing, nobody will want you. The key is that everybody is capable of self improvement through hard work. The modern movement seems to be based on; rather than improve yourself to make up for your own faults, the idea becomes to tear everybody else down or force people to accept your low standards.

Simone de Beauvoir, writer of the Second Sex when she was young. Founder of second wave feminism, longtime friend and lover Jean Paul Sartre, the best known philosopher of the twentieth century. But I'm sure he was into the dummies, right?

Gloria Steinem when she was young. One of the most popular feminists in the second half of the 20th century and co-founder of Ms. magazine.

Eva Peron when young, probably the most powerful political feminist in history. Got women the right to vote and enter universities in Argentina after forming the Feminist Peron Party.

Your points are stupid and disgusting and I feel disgusting posting pictures of pretty feminists to disprove your stupid points, given these women worked their entire lives to demonstrate their belief that women didn't need to be validated by men to have worth.

Blatent cherry picking.

All people are rich.

Proof

3/3 people are rich.

Guess what? Snow falls in the desert once in a while, but youre using a logical folicy and are too busy pulling a white night and launching personal attacks to realize it.

@servomaster: You picked all feminists with your stereotyping not I, suggesting their ugliness and dumbness was the reason for their wanting to tear down the need for beauty standards. If I find even one that doesn't fit that mould then logically you must at least rephrase to "some feminists" instead of attacking the entire movement, but that's the point of this entire thread. People want to feel justified in their tribalism, but tribalism isn't just.

People want to ignore the facts that a legacy of economic racism helped create the conditions for mass incarceration, which in turn creates the conditions for another generation of poverty, which in turn leads to yet more crime and so on. Black Lives Matter didn't create "black people," black people exist as separate because hundreds of years of laws and policies discriminated against them as a class well into the modern era.

People want to pretend that the fact that women have to shave their legs and wear make-up isn't the result of thousands of years of cultural repression and that there is little to no biological basis for it, certainly none that can't be resisted for the mental well-being of female individuals. And that it is somehow OK that women are generally looked at and objectified in ways far beyond that of males from the minute they hit puberty and want to ignore the self-consciousness that this creates, which in turn introduces an endless stream of psychological and behavior differences most of which are to the deficit of women as individuals. Feminists didn't create a gulf between women and men, thousands of years of repression did.

It's mixing up effect and cause. Is there a risk in trying to right these wrongs the pendulum will swing too far. Yes, it probably will, but we are not there by a long shot and that is an objective fact and that ignoring these realities is a bigger problem today than over-correction is also a fact. Is it true all along the way their will be injustices on all sides, yes of course.

Asians and Europeans most certainly did not have to face ANYWHERE NEAR the amount or depth of hostile policies directed at blacks, and with far fewer Asians, a few standout successes could help raise the level of their fellow immigrants. And they didn't have to check their education, culture and history at the door upon their arrival, which was voluntary.

Meanwhile, banks were charging blacks more for credit than whites as a matter of policy in the 1980s in Atlanta for no reason other than race (on the premise of charging more to people from certain areas of the city, regardless of creditworthiness), keeping them in the ghetto where they of could not improve because the banks of course charged outrageous interest for the development of the ghetto. Poverty leads to crime. It did in Asian ghettos, it did in Irish ghettos and it does in all Ghettos. Add in deliberate discriminatory practices in our criminal justice system like disparate sentences, disparate access to lawyers, disparate targeting and the like and of course more blacks ended up in jail and hence, not able to be fathers. Further, being in jail carries with it a stigma that all but guarantees further poverty for the next generation. It goes without saying slavery and jim crow beat them down much further than any racial group other than maybe the Native Americans, who surprise, surprise never adapted either and policies and a culture designed to keep them there was far more extensive as well.

No, it isn't evolution for women to be expected to shave their legs, wear make-up and be skinny. Healthy yes, but nothing even in your link, which is itself a foolish cherry-picking of "feminist," which millions of women would self-identify as being, even those women many of whom are overweight and not obese would not historically or biologically be considered unhealthy. Some of humanity's' oldest art are fertility goddesses of greater girth than most of those women.

@Seiki_sands said:

@servomaster said:

@sSubZerOo said:

@servomaster said:

I'm just baffled that they don't realize that they are themselves racist/sexist.

Which leads me to believe the movement is ran by sociopaths.. You can't be crying out feminism how nasty things said on twitter is giving you PTSD, while tivilizing or ignoring soldiers suffering from PTSD.. Or my personal favorite SJW fighting out against mental health of women, when completely ignoring the fact that men commit suicide by a massive MASSIVE margin more.. To me this just feels like they either don't care or they have completely lost their grip with reality and think every one is against them..

Another personal favorite of mine is the "academic" research paper that concludes that carbon fiber, a freaking building material, is sexist and represent the patriarch.. I thought this had to be a sick joke until I saw the paper my self.

I feel like the whole movement is just based on the idea that people who contribute nothing, should be worthy of getting everything. Rather than people who earn it or are productive members of socioty.

Take feminists for example. Google some of the images and articles that they've written, and it becomes apparent very quickly that they're not very intelligent or aesthetically appealing, and thus have low value to men. I'm not saying this to be a dick, but you are only worth what you produce, and if you aren't producing qualities that make you appealing, nobody will want you. The key is that everybody is capable of self improvement through hard work. The modern movement seems to be based on; rather than improve yourself to make up for your own faults, the idea becomes to tear everybody else down or force people to accept your low standards.

Simone de Beauvoir, writer of the Second Sex when she was young. Founder of second wave feminism, longtime friend and lover Jean Paul Sartre, the best known philosopher of the twentieth century. But I'm sure he was into the dummies, right?

Gloria Steinem when she was young. One of the most popular feminists in the second half of the 20th century and co-founder of Ms. magazine.

Eva Peron when young, probably the most powerful political feminist in history. Got women the right to vote and enter universities in Argentina after forming the Feminist Peron Party.

Your points are stupid and disgusting and I feel disgusting posting pictures of pretty feminists to disprove your stupid points, given these women worked their entire lives to demonstrate their belief that women didn't need to be validated by men to have worth.

.... These criticisms are directed towards third wave feminism.... Not second wave feminism..

@sSubZerOo: When it comes to believing society fosters an undue and negative burden on women regarding body image there is no clear distinction between second and third wave feminism. The first two of those women pictured helped foster those ideas. What did you guys think that whole burning bras thing was about in the 70s, showing you their pokies? It's about getting rid of things that make women feel inadequate or beholden to someone else's idea of their worth (like say...a scale). If anything second wave feminists were more radical on this front, with many third wave feminists being more vocal about recapturing and expressing their sexuality if they feel like it.

You really don't know what third wave feminism or the SJW movement is than in the college campus because it rarely has to do with breaking from sexual repression.. These aren't women trying to fight oppression like in the 1960s from Mad Men like culture environments.. Its a bunch of twats saying everything is being ruined by the patriarchy, that everything is racist and sexist.. The exact same group that claims to be marginalized, trivialized, and attacked, meanwhile they are doing the EXACT SAME THING to the opposing side..

You know like Bahar Mustafa, a well known third wave feminist in the UK that was arrested for hate speech.. With hasttag KILLALLWHITEMEN.. Claiming she wasn't sexist or racist when she had a conference that banned white men from..

The same group that say that your not a feminist if you don't vote for Hillary because she has a vagina..

A Prime example of this brain damage is the recent cringe worth Cracked article in which it says Dirty Harry was a horrible person who hated all non whites.. Using a line in the movie that uses a bunch of slurs, in which over half encompassed WHITE PEOPLE..

I have no problem with second wave feminism and support it.. And I have no problem with the bra burning protest what so ever.. That is not what is being discussed here. And your doing a disservice comparing those women to the current SJW's of today.. Same goes for the civil rights movement.. MIZZ SJW protestors, blacks, declared that they wish to have BLACK only areas.. Martin Luther King Jr. is rolling in his freaking grave right now.

No, I think I have a pretty good grasp on third wave feminism and I don't think it's about sexual freedom of expression anymore, that war has largely been won in the transition from second to the third wave, I think it's largely about individualism as a right for women. I suspect you absorb too many outrage right-wing click-bait articles that try to make you fear feminazis, having likely never taken classes in feminism; nor likely having read many scholarly articles on the topic that social media and right-wing sites didn't direct you toward. Just because a few people, or even a few thousand, out of millions are crackpots means absolutely nothing as almost all of them are powerless and inconsequential. Yes, let's all get outraged over a cracked.com (the humor website?) article and pretend it means anything, shall we?

Bahar Mustafa was not a "well known" third wave feminist, she was a student diversity officer almost no-one had heard of before the right wing media blew her up. And the key to the story was she was arrested for that hashtag, which is absurd because obviously no one was promoting the actual genocide of white men by using it, but a culture warrior of the right decided to report her to the police anyways, but it's only the PC obsessed that overreact to speech, right?

Many second wave feminists are alive and happily still associate themselves with modern feminism, I'm doing them no disservice. Trying to attack feminism as a whole because of a tiny minority does do them a disservice.

I don't disagree with you. I do think that in general America is a dangerous place for you to live if you're not part of the wealthy, rich, Anglo-American elite. I'm not denying that and no one here is.

And just to be clear, I'm not American, I'm not Anglo, and I'm half Asian, so I don't know where that whole outburst came where I allegedly said that "we" white Americans have it rough...

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No, actually those "few people" are now either trying to get people off or outright banning people from twitter (yes, not blocking - banning), are banning certain topics from being discussed on certain online forums, and are asking for people to be banned from speaking publicly due to them having a certain opinion. These are facts that actually have happened and do happen, not "isolated" incidents or some outlier speaking what everyone else thinks is nonsense. Where were the "not crackpots" feminists when GamerGate, Tim Hunt or Cologne happened?

"classes in feminism" LOL I can definitely see why you think I'm ignorant now.

Many second wave feminists, you mean like Christina Hoff Sommers?

We are speaking of different meanings of the expression "challenging beauty standards". I agree with the sentiment that the excessive focus on looks is particularly burdensome on women. However I do not believe the answer to this sentiment is deliberately dressing in vomit inducing outfits and scream "Look at me, I'm progressive and this is beauty".

This is unsubstanciated nonsense.

Racism exists, but I believe most problems among blacks today are self inflicted. You keep bringing up examples from the past, given more than a generation, we should be seeing improvement, but we're not, I largely blaim the anti intellectual, womanizing culture that blacks are unfortunately exposed to. I'm gonna keep bringing up the 2/3 children are born out of wedlock. That's insane! It's almost a guarantee for poverty as a single woman can't raise a child, and get an education easily.

On The Irish, they seem to have gotten on par with the rest of whites despite having such hate for them at some points...

I never said it was evolutionary to shave legs, maybe you should read my post. Yes make up and being skinny are taking advantage of evolution, men are attracted to physically attractive women, and make up covers up physical flaws, so obviously that makes women more desirable, and being skinny is a sign of health, which men are programmed to be attracted to; healthy women are more likely to produce healthy offspring. Being ugly is a reflection of bad genes and being fat is a sign of being unhealthy, thus men avoid these things subconsciously.

Historically fat people were desired because they were wealthy, don't confuse money and weight. Weight is ugly.

It's unsubstantiated that there were more laws and policies passed in this country that were discriminatory against blacks than the Asians and Irish? Do you know how many times Southern lawmakers moved money earmarked for black schools to white schools, how every single southern state had to pass grandfather clauses, how every single southern locale had to pass and institute segregation. Or are you saying it's unsubstantiated that unlike other groups blacks had to check their education, history, and culture at the door, because if you believe that your school did you a tremendous disservice. It was illegal to educate slaves and locales went to great length to make sure separate but equal meant the opposite.

In the past, but not in the distant past. In the near enough past to have consequences that are obviously still with us. And I can add that this is a country where until the 1970's if you were a little black child you were told, pressured, and burdened with knowledge that only menial jobs existed for you, that your expectations in life must be set low. Those children, who also suffered systemic discrimination like redlining, and political scapegoating throughout the Reagan era, are the parents and grandparents of today. And by the way, as most people know they didn't end the crack, cocaine powder disparity until the 2000s. And we still have disparate access to lawyers, we still have disparate targeting of communities.

And you should read my post above where I said even if there was a minor biological basis, and you certainly haven't proved it by providing a logical explanation of how that mechanism might work, it is "certainly none that can't be resisted for the mental well-being of female individuals." We resist all kinds of biological urges. The very fact females are expected to due the grunt's work of attracting males and not the reverse may not be evolution, but cultural. Our possible evolution has been wrapped up in culture since our culture began. We certainly see examples of both in nature, including in the primate family. And I don't think we can talk about evolution when you are talking about the short time frame of a couple thousand years since the invention of make-up.

Yes, that was one of the historic reasons, though not the only one. Ironically, you seem oblivious to the fact that your thinking weight is ugly is also because of money. In a country where certain food choices and gym memberships are largely confined to the non-poverty classes, weight has become ugliness or so the theory goes. And these things are on a scale. Being too skinny, as has been promoted by the fashion industry is not a sign of health, but ill health and being too skinny is clinically proven to reduce fertility, and if someone's attracted to it I would think it is because of their own flawed genes. Whereas being overweight, but not obese, has very little effect on fertility. And what's more important, the whole point is that these women don't give a shit if you find them physically attractive, not the objectively pretty ones, nor the objectively ugly ones.

I assume you mean no, they are not a few, but legion. I do not believe white man hating radicals represent more than a tiny fraction of women who would consider themselves feminists.

Gamergate, now I'm truly confused. Gamergate is the perfect demonstraction about how arguments for and against excessive political correctness are a sham. Many of the people involved in the harassment and bullying professed to be doing it BECAUSE they were attacking political correctness. And feminists were viciously attacked by such people, who were sending death threats before the feminists called for them to be silenced. People who came to the defense of the feminists were labelled SJWs, the first time I heard the term. And just goes to show the hypocrisy of both sides. As for Cologne, feminists have been outspoken about sexism in the middle east for decades, including when most on the right were sucking up to their favorite middle eastern dictators.

Yes, a class in feminism would assign you to read important works by feminists, instead of an outlier article that a site like breitbart links you to with the hope it will make you hate a movement you don't understand, a movement which coincidentally is politically aligned against them.

Christina Hoff Sommers wrote her first book about feminism during the 90's transition period between the second and third wave, she wasn't a prominent second wave feminist. Furthermore, the vast majority of feminists believe she engages in victim blaming and has from the first moment she started on the subject. She's made some contributions and pointed out some legitimate flaws with the feminist movement, and she's very popular with Rush Limbaugh. Your point? Even if you do find a few actual examples of feminists from the 70's and 80's unhappy with the direction feminism has taken, it doesn't change the fact that most of the feminist intellectual class from that period has made peace with today's feminism.

@sSubZerOo:

Didn't claim you were a right winger. I claimed you absorb too many right wing click bait outrages. The internet is full of them, including on boards like this one. I've seen you around the forums and I know you generally lean left. But you need to realize the world would never have heard of Bahar Mustafa if the right wing outrage machine hadn't went nuts over that hashtag.

Speaking of, no, I don't think a hashtag is dangerous, but I do think arresting someone for a hashtag is dangerous.

Great, out of the thousands of scholarly articles published every year, you come back with one that I guarantee no professor of female studies in history has ever, or will ever offer to their students. Why do you know about it? CLICK BAIT fake manufactured outrage. I googled it before I read it and sure enough for an obscure academic article about prosthetics materials that uses highly technical language interspersed with academic feminist jargon it has a massive internet presence.

One, I'm not a member of a minority. Two, I don't do social media of any kind. Three, I don't consider myself a social justice warrior, I recognize the excesses of modern social movements and I do consider myself a free speech advocate.

These things generally aren't problems, when they are problems they are almost never important ones. You are being used.

We are talking about a PUBLISHED article, one that made it through the University of London.. Ok please sit down and read up on the whole incident of MIZZ.. Or read up on the story how Tim Hunt, a Nobel prize winner, was forced to resign his post due to a joke he said that branded him as a sexist.. Or how a supposed "feminist" declared the women who were voting for Bernie instead of Hillary are sluts.. More or less..

Or the push for banning "mansplaying" in New York City..

And what are you even talking about? Right wing click bait? I am staunchly against conservative ideology.. Look through the forums, and you will see my posts.

@sSubZerOo

It is a published article that is not typical of modern feminism. It is a silly article, an odd article, an article not indicative of the thousands of feminist articles published every year. It offers little insight into modern feminism. No feminist theory professor would assign it in a million years. It is also an article about an extremely obscure topic and you most likely wouldn't know about it were it not for someone with an agenda to smear the feminist movement with the article. Someone saying, look here, look here internet aren't feminists silly.

Tim Hunt, who was forced to resign from an honorary position at a University said among other jokes "the problem with women in the lab is they cry when you criticize them". He apologized by saying "it is important in science to be able to criticize idea without criticizing people – while if somebody "burst into tears, it means that you tend to hold back from getting at the absolute truth." In other words, his apology all but restated the joke without the humor. He also joked that because of the crying and the fact that he has fallen in love with female scientists and it was distracting, girls should have their own labs to protect them from chauvinist monsters like himself (his words, not mine). During his apology for that bit he related that he it was biographical, that he had fallen in love and found it distracting and was just trying to be honest. I don't approve of him being fired at all. And from what I watched of him he's much too inoffensive to have stirred up a bunch of hate, but I would note what he said was pretty dumb as far as jokes go, and if it's even slightly out of context it looks terrible when written. More relevant is that the University is more to blame than feminism. There wasn't some great feminist uprising against him, there were a handful of women who worked up a minor twitter storm with most of them not knowing the full story, and he was fired almost immediately. It was female scientists, some of whom referred to themselves as feminists, who worked with him standing up for him that helped bring the story out of the shadows as an injustice. What's more even most of the twitter response from feminists prior to knowing the whole deal was a teasing response, not a hateful he must go yesterday response, although there was definitely some of that. The injustice wasn't so much that he was ridiculed as a sexist for a stupid joke as that was inevitable as soon as it touched the internet, the injustice was him being fired before he could respond thoughtfully.

MIZZ - What about the students in Missouri do you want me to know? My understanding after reading dozens of articles per your request is that after several recent racial incidents (numerous people being called the N word and a poop swastika having been found in a dorm) and a longer pattern of racial incidents in the last decade (a white student penning an article telling blacks to "stay in there little worlds" after accusing them collectively of vandalism, an incident involving the scattering of cotton balls on the black student unions lawn to evoke a plantation, writing a racial slur on a statue, racial fliers placed in the dorms, etc.) at a mostly white University in the same state as Ferguson, in a year of high racial tension protesters blamed the administration for not doing more. For instance, the Chancellor took over a week to respond to the student body president being repeatedly called the N word. Many reported not feeling safe, having claimed to have experienced micro-aggressions, threats of violence toward black students were found on social media after the protests succeeded in removing the president, including threats of a mass shooting of blacks, an arrest was made of the white man who posted the messages. During a highly obstructive home coming protest black students formed a human chain preventing the passing of Tim Wolfe, the president of the university's car from passing in the parade. They took turns citing the racial history of the institution, while being heckled by the mostly white crowd. Rather than letting himself be subjected to the peaceful protest, the car tried to weave around the students and inch forward until it may have lightly bumped one of them. A large white man used his body to push by the students to the cheers of the crowd, whereupon he was joined by several white bystanders who formed a chain attempting to let the President leave. The students claimed they were roughly removed from the street by police and were angered at how the President handled the situation, which he did not address for over a month. The football team insisted on a list of demands, mostly reasonable and some more troubling and contentious like racial hiring, or it would strike. There was a hunger strike by a graduate student to force the president to resign. The President then resigned while stating that racism at the campus was a real problem. As did the Chancellor. The black student president used social media to falsely warn of KKK sightings, which he promptly retracted, sighting having received erroneous reports. A professor attempted to block a student reporter from entering a place protesters had designated a "safe space" calling for muscle to remove the student. That professor resigned amid the uproar and received rape threats as a result of the incident. Other students pushed members of the press out of their "safe space," chanting "No comment." Those that did speak insisted the press would get the headline wrong. A very, very complicated situation all around made no easier by dismissing it all as PC nonsense.

@Seiki_sands: I suppose Richard Dawkins is a right wing nutjob, right? RIGHT?

No, he's not.

Yes, I know he ridiculed the article and came to the defense of Tim Hunt, I don't see how that changes anything and I never called anyone a right wing nut. But those who attempt to form a chorus of complaint around leftist PC excesses tend to be right wing outlets. Most of the stories people in these threads have told me to look up, when googled result in Dailywire, Brietbart, Redstate and the like, which shouldn't really be surprising.

If someone tried to outrage me about Tim Hunt the day after his speech I imagine I would be linked to left wing outrage peddlers.

I'm not even saying there hasn't been an uptick in PC expectations, but I do think it's a mixed bag as opposed to being all negative, and I do recognize that as ever, whenever someone tries to outrage me on the internet to take it with a mountain of salt. Whether that's thin skinned leftists with a cause who want me to lash out or thin skinned tribalists who want me to ignore history and reality and simply feel attacked as a white male.

Great video. First time I saw it. Thanks for posting it.

I have to disagree, the minorities have been told over and over again by a certain political party that they can't make it on their own they can only be successful with them. After a while when you are told this over and over again you begin to believe it as fact.

Meanwhile, I'm just sitting here. Being white.

You monster

That's true banks were charging Blacks more for credit than whites because there was a greater chance they would not get repaid.

1. Are you white? Yes

2. Did you wake up this morning? Yes

You are part of the problem.

That much is true. You hear something enough times you'll slowly start to believe it. It's why people who are told they're worthless start to feel worthless because they've heard it so often.

I think the most tragic thing isn't that those people "start to feel" worthless, but that most of them become worthless, or rather, never even try to evolve into something more than worthless.

Wow talk about self-victimization. Some people will blame everyone except themselves, and never take personal responsibility. With that self-defeating attitude, no on could ever get ahead on their own.

The ridiculous terms "white privilege" and "white guilt" show that the people who use them are incapable of seeing anything other than race. They're naive if they think everyone who is white is rich, and everyone who is black is poor. For many years black people have being given every benefit of the doubt, special treatment in employment, grants to go to college, welfare, food stamps, affirmative action, free lunches in school etc. and as a result, some don't even try to help themselves because almost everything is being done for them. There are plenty of people of all races who are poor, but don't resort to joining gangs or selling drugs.

Crap like this just gives some black people more excuses to not even try, expect to be given things, behave badly and not be held accountable, and repeat the cycle.

Self worth starts with family. And the lack of family bonds is a detriment.

You end up with 2/3 of children being born out of wedlock with parents with no sense of responsibility.

#triggered

In terms of the subject or what the users are talking about?

@Iszdope: Even I'm confused on this one. (I think)

I'm guessing that: Do "white" people have an advantage over everyone else?