Why do people deny evolution?

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#1 Thanatos1337
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I don't understand, there is so much evidence for evolution, and none for creationism, I really can't understand why people would choose to pretend it doesn't exist.
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#2 Frattracide
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Because it is inconsistent with their religious beliefs.
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#3 AndrewStar101
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I don't understand, there is so many topics for evolution, and none have real facts, I really can't understand why people would keep posting about it.
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#4 Erasorn
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I don't understand why people make these threads as there is no evidence that they will lead to any conclusions.
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Just because rome wasn't built in a week.
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Because they are too ignorant to learn about the actual science behind the process and just keep purporting the same, incredibly wrong arguments against it.
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I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc.
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#8 123625
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Because it doesnt convince them, and christians and religious people arnt the only ones to deny it. Not all Atheists beleive in Evolution.

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#9 yoshi-lnex
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I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydough
The evidence and research says otherwise...
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[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. yoshi-lnex
The evidence and research says otherwise...

The research is based on if atheism/darwinism is correct. Nothing can be proved except your own existence.
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The majority of people don't and no reputable biologists do. People just percieve it as going against their religion so it must obviously be wrong. I have read Genesis and can find no contradiction, nowhere does it say that God created all organisms species by species. Genesis says that plants were created before the sun, ffs, so can't be held to be historically true anymore than any other creation myth. It's historical significance was never the main focus of the story anyway, that's why we have two completely different accounts in the bible. This is still going to go to 10 pages plus, though. Some people just don't seem to understand that argument against one statement is not the same as evidence for another.

I'm not going to get involved in this beyond what I have ever said, but any creationist should read "The Blind Watchmaker". None will, of course, because it might just show them how incredibly foolish the have been.

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Because it doesnt convince them, and christians and religious people arnt the only ones to deny it. Not all Atheists beleive in Evolution.

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I imagine that's true. But I've never actually met an atheist who denies Evolution. In general, the motive for denying Evolution is religion.
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Well this will go atleast 10 or 15 pages.
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#14 Efielret
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I'm Catholic, but I don't deny evolution, I mean.. (If you believe in a god.) How do you know that this is how we were made? There is a possibility that could have happened, I'm just taking things off the top of my head. It keeps me thinking.
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who said they don't go hand in hand? since no one has proven how life originated i'd guess that way would be leading in any poll you'd take... although i have no believe in a creator.
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#16 foxhound_fox
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I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydough

Atheism is the belief that there is no God, gods or deities/spirits or anything supernatural in nature that exists. Not a religion. Darwinism is the primitive (and already highly adapted to newly arisen evidence) version of the science of evolution as it exists today... something that goes through a highly regulated and tested process to PROVE it right through empirical analysis. Not a religion.

Evolution is so well supported by observable and demonstrable evidence that denying it would be like denying your existence as a human being who is living right now.
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Without going into the religious/scientific debates that have been going on for forever, I can say that it is because evolution means that there is no point. If we really happened by chance, then it makes the entire point of existance moot. But it has a long way to go before I get to the point of complete denial.
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Because they lump the word "evolution" in with everything in science that they don't like. How about what they call "evolutionism" the supposed "atheist religion". These are just creationists, of course, since the majority of Christians believe in theistic evolution, evolution prompted by God.

I'm not too sure of the stances for other religions, so I won't embarrass myself by making statements I'm not sure about.

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I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydough
How so?

Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.

Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.

Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.

Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.

How are these the same?

In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.

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Without going into the religious/scientific debates that have been going on for forever, I can say that it is because evolution means that there is no point. If we really happened by chance, then it makes the entire point of existance moot. But it has a long way to go before I get to the point of complete denial.thnickaman13
I'm always astonished when people say this. Why does existence have to have a point? Does the lack of a point make your existence any less meaningful to you and those you know? Of course not. I don't see how anybody could ever be happy in the first place if their point in living is to live up to some higher purpose that they have not chosen. Almost anybody who's content with their lives will say that they find meaning in human relationships and doing things that they like, not serving the "universal purpose of existence."
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Well I dont accept the theory evolution given the fact that its only a theory. Theories are purposely not called facts becuase they havent been proven!

People deny the theory of evolution because they believe there is better answer.

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[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. RoyWilson

How so?

Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.

Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.

Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.

Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.

How are these the same?

In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.

It's just that they all were formed with the same observations, just interpreted differently.
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#23 Nagru
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These are probably very petty reasons, but I 'deny evolution' because of:

A) My religion

B) The theory doesn't make any sense to me.

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I honestly could pretty much care less about if I evolved from some kind of other animal earlier but... So far, no evolutionist has given me an explanation, or even a theory of how the universe started at all - before the Big Bang.
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I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydough
But it did happen...
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I can say that it is because evolution means that there is no point. If we really happened by chance, then it makes the entire point of existance moot.thnickaman13

First mistake... you think we "happened by chance." We did not happen by chance. Cause and effect... evolution is variation over time created by genetic changes that help living things adapt to their environments by giving them the ability to continue existing as a species... thus giving a POINT to their existence.

Everything is situated upon any infinitely long chain of cause and effect, dependent origination and lack of inherent existence. Everything happened for a reason, there is no "chance."

(did I just combine science and philosophy?)
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[QUOTE="RoyWilson"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydough

How so?

Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.

Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.

Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.

Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.

How are these the same?

In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.

It's just that they all were formed with the same observations, just interpreted differently.

No. Some people said lets find a scientific explanation for the creatures on the planet. Others said god made everything in 30 seconds we have no proof and all we want to do is hold back science so we can continue to lie to ourselves.
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Well I dont accept the theory evolution given the fact that its only a theory. Theories are purposely not called facts becuase they havent been proven!

People deny the theory of evolution because they believe there is better answer.

hiho24
A theory is a well-tested explanation that unifies a a broad range of observations. A theory is nota hypothesis or guess. There is not hierarchy in science from "theory" to "law".
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Evolution is the basis for Biology, if you dont "believe" in it than honeslty you should retake 9th grade Biology
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#30 swizz-the-gamer
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These are probably very petty reasons, but I 'deny evolution' because of:

A) My religion

B) The theory doesn't make any sense to me.

Nagru
It would make sense if you spent a short amount of time studying it.
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[QUOTE="RoyWilson"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydough

How so?

Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.

Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.

Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.

Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.

How are these the same?

In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.

It's just that they all were formed with the same observations, just interpreted differently.

Again, how so?
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These are probably very petty reasons, but I 'deny evolution' because of:

A) My religion

B) The theory doesn't make any sense to me.

Nagru

What specifically does not make sense to you?

Evolution is, quite simply, change over time.

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I honestly could pretty much care less about if I evolved from some kind of other animal earlier but... So far, no evolutionist has given me an explanation, or even a theory of how the universe started at all - before the Big Bang.brightshadow525

We aren't sure what happened before the Big Bang and what was there. Why would you expect that from an "evolutionist" (i don't get this term, does anyone actually call themselves that?) when the Evolution Theory we have now applies to organisms on Earth...

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Well I dont accept the theory evolution given the fact that its only a theory. Theories are purposely not called facts becuase they havent been proven!

People deny the theory of evolution because they believe there is better answer.

hiho24

You are mistaking a "theory" for a "hypothesis." A "theory" is not a guess. It is a guess supported by falsifiable and recreatable evidence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcavPAFiG14

I honestly could pretty much care less about if I evolved from some kind of other animal earlier but... So far, no evolutionist has given me an explanation, or even a theory of how the universe started at all - before the Big Bang.brightshadow525

No "evolutionist" could ever explain to you what happened before the Big Bang, that is like trying to prove the existence of God (not only that but evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life or the universe). We can have hypotheses about what happened before but never can we actually empirically figure out what happened... BUT, that does NOT prove the existence of God or Intelligent Design.

I'd also like to mention, there is no such thing as an "evolutionist" or "evolutionism." Stop making neologisms.
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[QUOTE="thnickaman13"]I can say that it is because evolution means that there is no point. If we really happened by chance, then it makes the entire point of existance moot.foxhound_fox

First mistake... you think we "happened by chance." We did not happen by chance. Cause and effect... evolution is variation over time created by genetic changes that help living things adapt to their environments by giving them the ability to continue existing as a species... thus giving a POINT to their existence.

Everything is situated upon any infinitely long chain of cause and effect, dependent origination and lack of inherent existence. Everything happened for a reason, there is no "chance."

(did I just combine science and philosophy?)

No, you didn't. Not at all. Cause and effect?

What do you think the cause was? Luck - chance. The elements (and everything in general) came together just right to make things possible - according to the theory of evolution.

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="RoyWilson"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. RoyWilson

How so?

Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.

Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.

Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.

Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.

How are these the same?

In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.

It's just that they all were formed with the same observations, just interpreted differently.

Again, how so?

One person saw a rock. He said, "Omgeee! It must hav ben 4med in millions of years." Another person saw the same rock ands said, "No waii!!! Dat rawk mut hav ben creatd by gawd!"
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I answer your question with another question: Why does it matter?

Just leave people be on the subject, and that goes for both sides of the argument

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#39 foxhound_fox
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No, you didn't. Not at all. Cause and effect?

What do you think the cause was? Luck - chance. The elements (and everything in general) came together just right to make things possible - according to the theory of evolution.

brightshadow525

You obviously know nothing about evolution. You think it is based around origination when it clearly never has had anything to do with that. Stop reusing the same arguments and actually learn about the things you argue against... then perhaps we can have a serious debate.
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[QUOTE="Nagru"]

These are probably very petty reasons, but I 'deny evolution' because of:

A) My religion

B) The theory doesn't make any sense to me.

RoyWilson

What specifically does not make sense to you?

Evolution is, quite simply, change over time.

The concept that humans evolved from single-celled organisms, let alone the idea that life came from non-life, is a very hard pill for me to swallow. Let alone the idea that life came from...what? A puddle that was hit by lightning?

I have Biology this semester, so hopefully I'll learn about evolution.

(BTW: I've also heard a lot about the complexity of DNA and other cellular features and how those things could not happen by chance. But I'll just have to wait and see.)

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="RoyWilson"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. swizz-the-gamer

How so?

Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.

Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.

Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.

Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.

How are these the same?

In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.

It's just that they all were formed with the same observations, just interpreted differently.

No. Some people said lets find a scientific explanation for the creatures on the planet. Others said god made everything in 30 seconds we have no proof and all we want to do is hold back science so we can continue to lie to ourselves.

"Lie"? You mean, repeat to yourself what you believe in, without caring about anyone else's theories. :|
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#42 foxhound_fox
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For those who know nothing about evolution, I suggest you watch these three videos. It will take just under 30 minutes of your time and you will be able to learn about the actual scientific theory about evolution and why it is impossible to "deny" it.

Natural Selection Made Easy
The Theory of Evolution Made Easy
Human Evolution Made Easy
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[QUOTE="brightshadow525"]I honestly could pretty much care less about if I evolved from some kind of other animal earlier but... So far, no evolutionist has given me an explanation, or even a theory of how the universe started at all - before the Big Bang.foxhound_fox

No "evolutionist" could ever explain to you what happened before the Big Bang, that is like trying to prove the existence of God (not only that but evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life or the universe). We can have hypotheses about what happened before but never can we actually empirically figure out what happened... BUT, that does NOT prove the existence of God or Intelligent Design.

I'd also like to mention, there is no such thing as an "evolutionist" or "evolutionism." Stop making neologisms.

Why can't I make neologisms? I mean, creationists exist, why not evolutionists...? What, does it make them sound like bad people...? Lol.

Anyway, we all know that evolution is a theory. I, for one, will not stick to a theory like that. I hate how you say it like it exists for a fact, it doesn't. Oh sure, give me the, "Bu-bu-bu... there's evidence...!". Is there enough to prove it 100% correct. And just as you stick to your theory of evolution I will stick to the "theory" of a creator. You can explain how we changed over the years, I will explain how we came to exist. Are we good?

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[QUOTE="RoyWilson"][QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="RoyWilson"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydough

How so?

Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.

Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.

Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.

Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.

How are these the same?

In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.

It's just that they all were formed with the same observations, just interpreted differently.

Again, how so?

One person saw a rock. He said, "Omgeee! It must hav ben 4med in millions of years." Another person saw the same rock ands said, "No waii!!! Dat rawk mut hav ben creatd by gawd!"

This is got to be to be the most retardest statement ive ever heard

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#45 ProlongedPain
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Open a Bible
http://www.newchristian.org.uk/faqgodexists.html
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#46 hiho24
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[QUOTE="hiho24"]

Well I dont accept the theory evolution given the fact that its only a theory. Theories are purposely not called facts becuase they havent been proven!

People deny the theory of evolution because they believe there is better answer.

RoyWilson

A theory is a well-tested explanation that unifies a a broad range of observations. A theory is nota hypothesis or guess. There is not hierarchy in science from "theory" to "law".

I reiterate, Evolution is theoretical, no one has proven it and therefore some dont believe in it. I dont get why you responded with the definition of a theory...

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#47 PrinceofTHEATL
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Open a Bible
http://www.newchristian.org.uk/faqgodexists.htmlProlongedPain

open your head

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#48 haggard_korn
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i dont know what I believe, I find it hard to believe god has existed forever, but I also find it hard to believe something went boom and now we have everything we know. And also, sometimes I think all the "proof" for evolution could be something God made to test your faith. Then sometimes I think religions are something un-educated people made up to say where they came from and wanting to think something happens when they die (most religions think that atleast)
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#49 brightshadow525
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[QUOTE="brightshadow525"]No, you didn't. Not at all. Cause and effect?

What do you think the cause was? Luck - chance. The elements (and everything in general) came together just right to make things possible - according to the theory of evolution.

foxhound_fox


You obviously know nothing about evolution. You think it is based around origination when it clearly never has had anything to do with that. Stop reusing the same arguments and actually learn about the things you argue against... then perhaps we can have a serious debate.

Sorry, that was my fault. I was talking about the Big Bang - the origin of the earth.

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[QUOTE="ProlongedPain"]Open a Bible
http://www.newchristian.org.uk/faqgodexists.htmlPrinceofTHEATL

open your head

I'd rather you did. :|