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I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydoughThe evidence and research says otherwise...
[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. yoshi-lnexThe evidence and research says otherwise... The research is based on if atheism/darwinism is correct. Nothing can be proved except your own existence.
The majority of people don't and no reputable biologists do. People just percieve it as going against their religion so it must obviously be wrong. I have read Genesis and can find no contradiction, nowhere does it say that God created all organisms species by species. Genesis says that plants were created before the sun, ffs, so can't be held to be historically true anymore than any other creation myth. It's historical significance was never the main focus of the story anyway, that's why we have two completely different accounts in the bible. This is still going to go to 10 pages plus, though. Some people just don't seem to understand that argument against one statement is not the same as evidence for another.
I'm not going to get involved in this beyond what I have ever said, but any creationist should read "The Blind Watchmaker". None will, of course, because it might just show them how incredibly foolish the have been.
I imagine that's true. But I've never actually met an atheist who denies Evolution. In general, the motive for denying Evolution is religion.Because it doesnt convince them, and christians and religious people arnt the only ones to deny it. Not all Atheists beleive in Evolution.
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I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydough
Because they lump the word "evolution" in with everything in science that they don't like. How about what they call "evolutionism" the supposed "atheist religion". These are just creationists, of course, since the majority of Christians believe in theistic evolution, evolution prompted by God.
I'm not too sure of the stances for other religions, so I won't embarrass myself by making statements I'm not sure about.
I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydoughHow so?
Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.
Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.
Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.
Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.
How are these the same?
In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.
Without going into the religious/scientific debates that have been going on for forever, I can say that it is because evolution means that there is no point. If we really happened by chance, then it makes the entire point of existance moot. But it has a long way to go before I get to the point of complete denial.thnickaman13I'm always astonished when people say this. Why does existence have to have a point? Does the lack of a point make your existence any less meaningful to you and those you know? Of course not. I don't see how anybody could ever be happy in the first place if their point in living is to live up to some higher purpose that they have not chosen. Almost anybody who's content with their lives will say that they find meaning in human relationships and doing things that they like, not serving the "universal purpose of existence."
How so?[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. RoyWilson
Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.
Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.
Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.
Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.
How are these the same?
In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.
It's just that they all were formed with the same observations, just interpreted differently.I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydoughBut it did happen...
I can say that it is because evolution means that there is no point. If we really happened by chance, then it makes the entire point of existance moot.thnickaman13
[QUOTE="RoyWilson"]How so?[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydough
Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.
Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.
Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.
Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.
How are these the same?
In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.
It's just that they all were formed with the same observations, just interpreted differently. No. Some people said lets find a scientific explanation for the creatures on the planet. Others said god made everything in 30 seconds we have no proof and all we want to do is hold back science so we can continue to lie to ourselves.A theory is a well-tested explanation that unifies a a broad range of observations. A theory is nota hypothesis or guess. There is not hierarchy in science from "theory" to "law".Well I dont accept the theory evolution given the fact that its only a theory. Theories are purposely not called facts becuase they havent been proven!
People deny the theory of evolution because they believe there is better answer.
hiho24
It would make sense if you spent a short amount of time studying it.These are probably very petty reasons, but I 'deny evolution' because of:
A) My religion
B) The theory doesn't make any sense to me.
Nagru
[QUOTE="RoyWilson"]How so?[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydough
Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.
Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.
Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.
Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.
How are these the same?
In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.
It's just that they all were formed with the same observations, just interpreted differently. Again, how so?What specifically does not make sense to you?These are probably very petty reasons, but I 'deny evolution' because of:
A) My religion
B) The theory doesn't make any sense to me.
Nagru
Evolution is, quite simply, change over time.
I honestly could pretty much care less about if I evolved from some kind of other animal earlier but... So far, no evolutionist has given me an explanation, or even a theory of how the universe started at all - before the Big Bang.brightshadow525
We aren't sure what happened before the Big Bang and what was there. Why would you expect that from an "evolutionist" (i don't get this term, does anyone actually call themselves that?) when the Evolution Theory we have now applies to organisms on Earth...
Well I dont accept the theory evolution given the fact that its only a theory. Theories are purposely not called facts becuase they havent been proven!
People deny the theory of evolution because they believe there is better answer.
hiho24
I honestly could pretty much care less about if I evolved from some kind of other animal earlier but... So far, no evolutionist has given me an explanation, or even a theory of how the universe started at all - before the Big Bang.brightshadow525
[QUOTE="thnickaman13"]I can say that it is because evolution means that there is no point. If we really happened by chance, then it makes the entire point of existance moot.foxhound_fox
No, you didn't. Not at all. Cause and effect?
What do you think the cause was? Luck - chance. The elements (and everything in general) came together just right to make things possible - according to the theory of evolution.
[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="RoyWilson"]How so?[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. RoyWilson
Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.
Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.
Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.
Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.
How are these the same?
In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.
It's just that they all were formed with the same observations, just interpreted differently. Again, how so? One person saw a rock. He said, "Omgeee! It must hav ben 4med in millions of years." Another person saw the same rock ands said, "No waii!!! Dat rawk mut hav ben creatd by gawd!"No, you didn't. Not at all. Cause and effect?What do you think the cause was? Luck - chance. The elements (and everything in general) came together just right to make things possible - according to the theory of evolution.
brightshadow525
[QUOTE="Nagru"]What specifically does not make sense to you?These are probably very petty reasons, but I 'deny evolution' because of:
A) My religion
B) The theory doesn't make any sense to me.
RoyWilson
Evolution is, quite simply, change over time.
The concept that humans evolved from single-celled organisms, let alone the idea that life came from non-life, is a very hard pill for me to swallow. Let alone the idea that life came from...what? A puddle that was hit by lightning?
I have Biology this semester, so hopefully I'll learn about evolution.
(BTW: I've also heard a lot about the complexity of DNA and other cellular features and how those things could not happen by chance. But I'll just have to wait and see.)
[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="RoyWilson"]How so?[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. swizz-the-gamer
Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.
Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.
Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.
Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.
How are these the same?
In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.
It's just that they all were formed with the same observations, just interpreted differently. No. Some people said lets find a scientific explanation for the creatures on the planet. Others said god made everything in 30 seconds we have no proof and all we want to do is hold back science so we can continue to lie to ourselves. "Lie"? You mean, repeat to yourself what you believe in, without caring about anyone else's theories. :|
[QUOTE="brightshadow525"]I honestly could pretty much care less about if I evolved from some kind of other animal earlier but... So far, no evolutionist has given me an explanation, or even a theory of how the universe started at all - before the Big Bang.foxhound_fox
I'd also like to mention, there is no such thing as an "evolutionist" or "evolutionism." Stop making neologisms.
Why can't I make neologisms? I mean, creationists exist, why not evolutionists...? What, does it make them sound like bad people...? Lol.
Anyway, we all know that evolution is a theory. I, for one, will not stick to a theory like that. I hate how you say it like it exists for a fact, it doesn't. Oh sure, give me the, "Bu-bu-bu... there's evidence...!". Is there enough to prove it 100% correct. And just as you stick to your theory of evolution I will stick to the "theory" of a creator. You can explain how we changed over the years, I will explain how we came to exist. Are we good?
[QUOTE="RoyWilson"][QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="RoyWilson"]How so?[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydough
Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.
Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.
Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.
Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.
How are these the same?
In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.
It's just that they all were formed with the same observations, just interpreted differently. Again, how so? One person saw a rock. He said, "Omgeee! It must hav ben 4med in millions of years." Another person saw the same rock ands said, "No waii!!! Dat rawk mut hav ben creatd by gawd!"This is got to be to be the most retardest statement ive ever heard
[QUOTE="hiho24"]A theory is a well-tested explanation that unifies a a broad range of observations. A theory is nota hypothesis or guess. There is not hierarchy in science from "theory" to "law".Well I dont accept the theory evolution given the fact that its only a theory. Theories are purposely not called facts becuase they havent been proven!
People deny the theory of evolution because they believe there is better answer.
RoyWilson
I reiterate, Evolution is theoretical, no one has proven it and therefore some dont believe in it. I dont get why you responded with the definition of a theory...
[QUOTE="brightshadow525"]No, you didn't. Not at all. Cause and effect?What do you think the cause was? Luck - chance. The elements (and everything in general) came together just right to make things possible - according to the theory of evolution.
foxhound_fox
Sorry, that was my fault. I was talking about the Big Bang - the origin of the earth.
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