Why do people deny evolution?

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#51 foxhound_fox
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Why can't I make neologisms? I mean, creationists exist, why not evolutionists...? What, does it make them sound like bad people...? Lol.

Anyway, we all know that evolution is a theory. I, for one, will not stick to a theory like that. I hate how you say it like it exists for a fact, it doesn't. Oh sure, give me the, "Bu-bu-bu... there's evidence...!". Is there enough to prove it 100% correct. And just as you stick to your theory of evolution I will stick to the "theory" of a creator. You can explain how we changed over the years, I will explain how we came to exist. Are we good?

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Because there is no such thing as a "evolutionist." You make it sound as if it is based solely off of a belief purported by an individual and not a fact supported by observable and demonstrable empirical evidence that is accepted by the general scientific community.

Nothing can be proven 100% correct, except math... and math isn't an empirical entity. Evolution is the greatest and most supported explanation we currently have and if new evidence comes along that refutes it, it will be adapted to the new evidence... unlike any other "guess" that just keeps denying any evidence that comes along to refute it.

There is no such thing as a "theory" of a creator. It is a guess based on no empirical evidence. It is not a science and never will be a science unless evidence comes along to support an empirical understanding of it. You cannot explain how we came to exist because you have no observable or demonstrable evidence to support your guess. I can make the best guess I can based on the evidence I have.
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#52 ProlongedPain
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[QUOTE="ProlongedPain"]Open a Bible
http://www.newchristian.org.uk/faqgodexists.htmlPrinceofTHEATL

open your head

My Head is open to anything rational. Open your Heart to somthing more

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#53 dainjah1010
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[QUOTE="RoyWilson"][QUOTE="hiho24"]

Well I dont accept the theory evolution given the fact that its only a theory. Theories are purposely not called facts becuase they havent been proven!

People deny the theory of evolution because they believe there is better answer.

hiho24

A theory is a well-tested explanation that unifies a a broad range of observations. A theory is nota hypothesis or guess. There is not hierarchy in science from "theory" to "law".

I reiterate, Evolution is theoretical, no one has proven it and therefore some dont believe in it. I dont get why you responded with the definition of a theory...

So you don't accept germ theory, cell theory, atomic theory, plate tectonics theory, theory of relativity, etc either? because, you know, those are all theories too!

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#54 storedpie
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I deny it because it depends on the reasoning that whole thing happened by chance.

If you look at DNA and all the complexity that is life it is very near impossible it could have just happened.

I read a study about it once it said the chances were something like 1 in like a trillion times 10 to the five hundred thousanth power(those arent the real numbers but trust me there were alot of zeros)

It is related to the theory that if you give monkeys an infiniite amount amount of time and a keyboard they can procuce shakespheres sonnet.

It just dosn't seem plausible

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#55 dainjah1010
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I deny it because it depends on the reasoning that whole thing happened by chance.

If you look at DNA and all the complexity that is life it is very near impossible it could have just happened.

I read a study about it once it said the chances were something like 1 in like a trillion times 10 to the five hundred thousanth power(those arent the real numbers but trust me there were alot of zeros)

It is related to the theory that if you give monkeys an infiniite amount amount of time and a keyboard they can procuce shakespheres sonnet.

It just dosn't seem plausible

storedpie

Maybe you should read some more... no biologist says that DNA in all its complexity sprang from nothing. It is a stepwise process that involves natural selection.

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I deny it because it depends on the reasoning that whole thing happened by chance.

If you look at DNA and all the complexity that is life it is very near impossible it could have just happened.

I read a study about it once it said the chances were something like 1 in like a trillion times 10 to the five hundred thousanth power(those arent the real numbers but trust me there were alot of zeros)

It is related to the theory that if you give monkeys an infiniite amount amount of time and a keyboard they can procuce shakespheres sonnet.

It just dosn't seem plausible

storedpie

Evolution doesn't explain origination. It is genetic variation over time used to adapt to environments through mutations.
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#57 legend26
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Well I dont accept the theory evolution given the fact that its only a theory. Theories are purposely not called facts becuase they havent been proven!

People deny the theory of evolution because they believe there is better answer.

hiho24
well even if it is a theory it has EVIDENCE to back it up, is there eny pyhsical evidence for creationism?
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#58 foxhound_fox
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My Head is open to anything rational. Open your Heart to somthing moreProlongedPain

The Bible being "rational" would be like saying it contains the same amount of fact, history and pizza.
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Jesus Existis and trying to explain that is like trying to exlpain love you cant
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#60 Ultima_5
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The only problem i have when people dont believe in evolution, is in school (biology mainly) when theyinterruptthe teacher to say they dont agree w/ whatever the teacher just said. It makes learning the information difficult, and gets on my nerves >_>.

One thing that i did notice though was sophomore year when we learned about evolution (bio I), and watched videos,articles, etc that said the word evolution people started acting up, but in my honors bio II class junior year we learned the same stuff again, the teacher was smarter this time and didnt say the word. No one complained, and it worked like a charm ^_^

In the real world i am be fine w/ people choosing not to believe evolution but i would rather they dont shove their beliefs down my throat.

Over time i also believe that people will change their minds; I mean people thought the world was flat for along time right?

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#61 blackmagesm
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Over time i also believe that people will change their minds; I mean people thought the world was flat for along time right?

Ultima_5

And people still do :?

their arguments are similar to creationists except instead of an evil atheistic conspiracy in science there is huge conspiracy based on money

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I deny it because it depends on the reasoning that whole thing happened by chance.

If you look at DNA and all the complexity that is life it is very near impossible it could have just happened.

I read a study about it once it said the chances were something like 1 in like a trillion times 10 to the five hundred thousanth power(those arent the real numbers but trust me there were alot of zeros)

It is related to the theory that if you give monkeys an infiniite amount amount of time and a keyboard they can procuce shakespheres sonnet.

It just dosn't seem plausible

storedpie
The chances of a DNA strand developing on its own are very tiny, yes, but evolution does not state that. Perhaps if you understood the replication and evolution of the DNA molecule, you'd know exactly why your analogy is incorrect and preposterous.
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#63 blackmagesm
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Creationists don't like to talk about how nucleotides and other organic material are known to form naturally.

They also make bad calculations about how impossibe it is for DNA to evolve.

This is of course wrong.

DNA (especially in its present form) didn't have to be the first genetic material and it probably wasn't.

Their calculations are also erroneous because they calculate what it would take for DNA itself to form without any selective pressure. They also don't take into account that trillions of seperate, simultaneous chemical reactions occured to produce genetic material, not just one or a few. They also don't take into account that other molecules could have possibly formed genetic material. DNA is just the one that dominated.

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#64 Riverspirit
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To answer the original question of this post, the reason people deny evolution is because there was already a different theory on the idea of how humans and animals came to be what they are. And so, people denied this new theory as preposterous and the talk of a mad man, when it was, to some, revolutionizing. If you think about it, gravity is just a theory, and yet you don't hear anyone speaking against it. Mainly because it cannot be justified against, there weren't any theories on the subject before, and it was easy to accept because it did make sense. To me, evolution makes sense. And it is still a theory, but it's a theory I believe to be the real idea.
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I honestly could pretty much care less about if I evolved from some kind of other animal earlier but... So far, no evolutionist has given me an explanation, or even a theory of how the universe started at all - before the Big Bang.brightshadow525

Not surprising, since evolution has nothing to do with how the universe began.

You'd might as well criticize marine biology for not addressing unknown aspects of neurology.

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[QUOTE="brightshadow525"]I honestly could pretty much care less about if I evolved from some kind of other animal earlier but... So far, no evolutionist has given me an explanation, or even a theory of how the universe started at all - before the Big Bang.MrGeezer

Not surprising, since evolution has nothing to do with how the universe began.

You'd might as well criticize marine biology for not addressing unknown aspects of neurology.

I had a discussion with him about this. Apparently, nothing in science is legit until we answer his (ridiculous) questions.
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#67 SpaceMoose
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Cognitive dissonance.
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I deny it because it depends on the reasoning that whole thing happened by chance.

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Whether or not you characterize it as being random doesn't deny the fact that organisms evolve.
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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydough
The evidence and research says otherwise...

The research is based on if atheism/darwinism is correct. Nothing can be proved except your own existence.

Do you exist?
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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. Colonel_Cool
The evidence and research says otherwise...

The research is based on if atheism/darwinism is correct. Nothing can be proved except your own existence.

Do you exist?

"I think, therefor I am."
-Rene Descartes
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Inconsistencies with religion. Some people don't like the fact that their ancestors are monkeys. Charles Darwin stole it from that other dude... I forgot his name already.
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They believe that we were made perfect and slowly we are devolving
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#73 darkmoney52
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Cause it's stupid. Anyone who knows me in rl will tell you that I am not a damn monkey. I'm not even hairry. I don't like bananas. My dad wasn't a monkey either. Evolution=disproved.
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#74 foxhound_fox
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"I think, therefor I am."
-Rene Descartes
jaydough

Old philosophy is old. Prove that you inherently exist.

Cause it's stupid. Anyone who knows me in rl will tell you that I am not a damn monkey. I'm not even hairry. I don't like bananas. My dad wasn't a monkey either. Evolution=disproved.darkmoney52

:lol:

Time to take Biology again.
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[QUOTE="jaydough"] "I think, therefor I am."
-Rene Descartes
foxhound_fox

Old philosophy is old. Prove that you inherently exist.

... *Head asplodes*
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[QUOTE="hiho24"]

Well I dont accept the theory evolution given the fact that its only a theory. Theories are purposely not called facts becuase they havent been proven!

People deny the theory of evolution because they believe there is better answer.

foxhound_fox


You are mistaking a "theory" for a "hypothesis." A "theory" is not a guess. It is a guess supported by falsifiable and recreatable evidence.

Forget the terminology! I never said a theory was a guess! I said that evolution has not been proven! Where does your arguement even come from?

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Because it doesnt convince them, and christians and religious people arnt the only ones to deny it. Not all Atheists beleive in Evolution.

123625

I agree with you...And from the first place we can't possibly evolve from monkeys! can we??:|

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[QUOTE="123625"]

Because it doesnt convince them, and christians and religious people arnt the only ones to deny it. Not all Atheists beleive in Evolution.

Minzero

I agree with you...And from the first place we can't possibly evolve from monkeys! can we??:|

Yes we can

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Forget the terminology! I never said a theory was a guess! I said that evolution has not been proven! Where does your arguement even come from?hiho24

The way worded your sentence inferred that you think evolution a "hypothesis" based on an idea or guess. A "theory" in science is something that has observable and demonstrable evidence to back it up and makes it a scientific FACT. The proof that supports evolution is currently irrefutable. As I already mentioned, denying that evolution is a scientific fact and is the process in which genetic variation occurs over time is like denying your personal existence.

And if you want proof... here... have some... (care of CptJSparrow):

Observed instances of speciation.
Neanderthal genome sequencing
Humans and Neanderthals shared Earth
Transitional fossil FAQ
Transitional fossils of hominid skulls
The Origin of Whales
List of transitional fossils
Hundreds of human genes still evolving
Human and ape chromosomes
Ken Miller talks about the evolution of blood clotting
Ken Miller on Whale Evolution
Ken Miller on Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District
Early Man Couldn't "Stomach" Milk
29+ Evidences for Macroevolution
Miller-Urey Experiment
The Flagellum Unspun
NASA: Nitrogen, lightning key to early life on Earth
NASA: Scientists Propose New Theory of Early Life on Earth
Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District
Purpose of Appendix Believed Found
Germs Get 'Badder' in Space
Common Ancestor of All Apes Walked Upright
Something Fishy About Human Fingers
Neanderthals Had Language Gene Identical to Ours
Early Humans used Makeup, Ate Seafood
Chimps as Irrationally Possessive as Humans
Earth's Oxygen-Rich Atmosphere Older Than Thought
Climate Change Didn't Kill Neanderthals
Early Humans Could Walk, Not Run
'Baby Talk' Universally Understood
Men With 'Caveman' Faces More Attractive to Women
Skull Suggests Two Early Human Species Existed at the Same Time
Intelligent Design on Trial
Are Mutations Harmful?
Introduction to Evolutionary Biology
Missing Link Between Fish and Land Animals
Precambrian Fossils
Permian-Triassic Extinction Event
Oldest Homo Sapiens Found, Experts Say
Neanderthals Not our Ancestors, DNA Study Suggests
Cannibalism Normal For Early Humans?
Neanderthals Had Highly Capable Hands, Study Suggests
Did Neanderthals Lack Smarts to Survive?
Java Skull Raises Questions about Human Origins
First Humans in Australia Dated to 50,000 Years Ago
1.8 Million Year-Old Hominid Jaw Found
When Did "Modern Behavior" in Humans Arise?
Fossil Implies Our Early Kin Lived in Trees
Skull Fossil Opens Window Into Early Period of Human Origins
Study Supports Idea That Primates, Dinosaurs Co-Existed
Evolution of the Horse
BBC: Evolution of Man
Darwin's Finches Evolving Fast
Velociraptor Had Feathers
Speciation
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Here's food for thought for those that say Evolution isn't real: did you know because of sea-section the human head and foot is now a lot bigger? We have the hats and shoes from the soldiers of the American Revolution and don't fit on any grown man because they're too small.

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#81 SpaceMoose
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The way worded your sentence inferred that you think evolution a "hypothesis" based on an idea or guess. A "theory" in science is something that has observable and demonstrable evidence to back it up and makes it a scientific FACT. The proof that supports evolution is currently irrefutable. As I already mentioned, denying that evolution is a scientific fact and is the process in which genetic variation occurs over time is like denying your personal existence.

And if you want proof... here... have some... (care of CptJSparrow):

Observed instances of speciation.
Neanderthal genome sequencing
Humans and Neanderthals shared Earth
Transitional fossil FAQ
Transitional fossils of hominid skulls
The Origin of Whales
List of transitional fossils
Hundreds of human genes still evolving
Human and ape chromosomes
Ken Miller talks about the evolution of blood clotting
Ken Miller on Whale Evolution
Ken Miller on Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District
Early Man Couldn't "Stomach" Milk
29+ Evidences for Macroevolution
Miller-Urey Experiment
The Flagellum Unspun
NASA: Nitrogen, lightning key to early life on Earth
NASA: Scientists Propose New Theory of Early Life on Earth
Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District
Purpose of Appendix Believed Found
Germs Get 'Badder' in Space
Common Ancestor of All Apes Walked Upright
Something Fishy About Human Fingers
Neanderthals Had Language Gene Identical to Ours
Early Humans used Makeup, Ate Seafood
Chimps as Irrationally Possessive as Humans
Earth's Oxygen-Rich Atmosphere Older Than Thought
Climate Change Didn't Kill Neanderthals
Early Humans Could Walk, Not Run
'Baby Talk' Universally Understood
Men With 'Caveman' Faces More Attractive to Women
Skull Suggests Two Early Human Species Existed at the Same Time
Intelligent Design on Trial
Are Mutations Harmful?
Introduction to Evolutionary Biology
Missing Link Between Fish and Land Animals
Precambrian Fossils
Permian-Triassic Extinction Event
Oldest Homo Sapiens Found, Experts Say
Neanderthals Not our Ancestors, DNA Study Suggests
Cannibalism Normal For Early Humans?
Neanderthals Had Highly Capable Hands, Study Suggests
Did Neanderthals Lack Smarts to Survive?
Java Skull Raises Questions about Human Origins
First Humans in Australia Dated to 50,000 Years Ago
1.8 Million Year-Old Hominid Jaw Found
When Did "Modern Behavior" in Humans Arise?
Fossil Implies Our Early Kin Lived in Trees
Skull Fossil Opens Window Into Early Period of Human Origins
Study Supports Idea That Primates, Dinosaurs Co-Existed
Evolution of the Horse
BBC: Evolution of Man
Darwin's Finches Evolving Fast
Velociraptor Had Feathers
Speciationfoxhound_fox

Those are "just theories", which, you know, is a great answer if you don't understand that "theory" has a rather different meaning in science than it does in typical everyday speech...

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[QUOTE="Minzero"][QUOTE="123625"]

Because it doesnt convince them, and christians and religious people arnt the only ones to deny it. Not all Atheists beleive in Evolution.

kruesader

I agree with you...And from the first place we can't possibly evolve from monkeys! can we??:|

Yes we can

I can't believe this... And I actually hated monkeys....

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#83 ayanami_rei
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Anyway, we all know that evolution is a theory. I, for one, will not stick to a theory like that. I hate how you say it like it exists for a fact, it doesn't. Oh sure, give me the, "Bu-bu-bu... there's evidence...!". Is there enough to prove it 100% correct. And just as you stick to your theory of evolution I will stick to the "theory" of a creator. You can explain how we changed over the years, I will explain how we came to exist. Are we good?

brightshadow525
>_> If you're going to do that, might as well do that with gravity, seeing as how gravity is only a theory.
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#84 darkmoney52
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Here's food for thought for those that say Evolution isn't real: did you know because of sea-section the human head and foot is now a lot bigger? We have the hats and shoes from the soldiers of the American Revolution and don't fit on any grown man because they're too small.

Vax45

Vax, you just made my day. My feet are bigger than George Washington's! Who's the big man now huh?

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#85 foxhound_fox
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Those are "just theories", which, you know, is a great answer if you don't understand that "theory" has a rather different meaning in science than it does in typical everyday speech...SpaceMoose

Indeed it does but evolution is science, so this isn't "everyday speech." The THEORY OF EVOLUTION in SCIENCE is a FACT. An irrefutable fact that has 200 years of scientific research, experiments and evidence to fully PROVE its STATE OF BEING FACT.

So okay... the "theory" of gravity states that there is an invisible force that pulls us down to Earth. Now, this is obviously an observable fact, empirically supported by the FACT that we fall towards the ground when we jump off a building. Now, if someone can deny the "theory" of evolution, then they must also deny the "theory" of gravity... thus, those who deny evolution, also think that there is no force pulling us down to the Earth thus giving us the ability to fly everywhere.
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#86 ayanami_rei
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[QUOTE="123625"]

Because it doesnt convince them, and christians and religious people arnt the only ones to deny it. Not all Atheists beleive in Evolution.

Minzero

I agree with you...And from the first place we can't possibly evolve from monkeys! can we??:|

Most think that when they hear the word "evolution" they think we have evolved from monkeys.

Anyway, take a look at your appendix. It's to the point where it renders uselessness. Back then, people would use their appendix to digest certain food, such as bark and...I think it was berries? (don't hold up on me with the berries). As time progressed, the appendix became smaller and smaller, to where in humans today, we do not use it at all anymore. It's useless and most likely one day not be in the body.

That would be evidence to evolution happening. Evolution doesn't happen in a day. It happens over periods of years. Of course you won't notice a change in your generation because it doesn't happen in a day or two.

Now before anyone bites my head off, I am not stating it is a fact. I'm simply stating an evidence, which supports the theory (unless I was told wrong). The only thing to be 100% factual is math. Science is still debated today.

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#87 SpaceMoose
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[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]Those are "just theories", which, you know, is a great answer if you don't understand that "theory" has a rather different meaning in science than it does in typical everyday speech...foxhound_fox

Indeed it does but evolution is science, so this isn't "everyday speech." The THEORY OF EVOLUTION in SCIENCE is a FACT. An irrefutable fact that has 200 years of scientific research, experiments and evidence to fully PROVE its STATE OF BEING FACT.

So okay... the "theory" of gravity states that there is an invisible force that pulls us down to Earth. Now, this is obviously an observable fact, empirically supported by the FACT that we fall towards the ground when we jump off a building. Now, if someone can deny the "theory" of evolution, then they must also deny the "theory" of gravity... thus, those who deny evolution, also think that there is no force pulling us down to the Earth thus giving us the ability to fly everywhere.

I hope you weren't really directing your reply at me, because that was kind of my point.

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#88 TheFlush
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This is why I laugh at creationists: Creationist Lunacy invades science museum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd_ssolGNKc Actually it's pretty disturbing and I'd say it's child abuse.
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#89 TheFlush
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Oh and look at our ancestors the neanderthals, they pretty much looked like half human, half monkey. So the evolution from monkey thing is quite understandable to me.
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#90 foxhound_fox
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Most think that when they hear the word "evolution" they think we have evolved from monkeys.

Anyway, take a look at your appendix. It's to the point where it renders uselessness. Back then, people would use their appendix to digest certain food, such as bark and...I think it was berries? (don't hold up on me with the berries). As time progressed, the appendix became smaller and smaller, to where in humans today, we do not use it at all anymore. It's useless and most likely one day not be in the body.

That would be evidence to evolution happening. Evolution doesn't happen in a day. It happens over periods of years. Of course you won't notice a change in your generation because it doesn't happen in a day or two.

Now before anyone bites my head off, I am not stating it is a fact. I'm simply stating an evidence, which supports the theory (unless I was told wrong). The only thing to be 100% factual is math. Science is still debated today.

ayanami_rei

Speaking of evolution happening... I was born without wisdom teeth, I have 27 teeth in my mouth (missing a molar as well) and the x-rays of my mouth have shown that I do not and will not be getting wisdom teeth in my lifetime. Now, back in much earlier times (many thousands of years ago) when we were eating much harsher food (raw meats and unprocessed plant material), we needed the extra grinding surface in order to properly digest our food.

To support you point about it not happening in a day or two... a common misconception about evolution is that it changes something in an already living being... which it doesn't. It is genetic variation and mutation that is passed down to the next generation after two different gametes become a zygote. A human child can have upwards of 120 genetic variations that differentiate it from its parents. But that doesn't mean everyone gets a sixth finger every time a child is born... that means that something changes... like increased musculature... or longer hair... or brittler nails... whatever.

And evolution is "fact" until it can be refuted. That is what science is. Atoms being the smallest particles known to humans was "fact" until we discovered sub-atomic particles. Science grows and changes with new evidence that comes along... unlike religion which just denies evidence and bases its "truth" an "fact" off of faith.
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#91 SpaceMoose
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This is why I laugh at creationists: Creationist Lunacy invades science museum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd_ssolGNKc Actually it's pretty disturbing and I'd say it's child abuse.TheFlush

That idiot can't even get his own religion right. Jesus created everything? LOL.

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Edit: Watched a little further into the video. Tyrannosaurus was designed to eat vegatables. LMAO.

Really, it's sad though, brainwashing all those little kids to that degree.

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#92 foxhound_fox
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I hope you weren't really directing your reply at me, because that was kind of my point.SpaceMoose

Sorry if it sounded as if it was directed at you, I was agreeing with you and adding my extra two cents. My posting styIe can be a bit confrontational at times.
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#93 smarb001
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I honestly could pretty much care less about if I evolved from some kind of other animal earlier but... So far, no evolutionist has given me an explanation, or even a theory of how the universe started at all - before the Big Bang.brightshadow525

There was NOTHING before the big bang... and besides, evolution has NOTHING to do with that. Do you even know what it is, really? I'd bet that most of the people that deny it haven't even looked it up on wikipedia, nevermind actually thought about it. Evolution makes perfect sense, unlike the "POOF and suddenly everything was there" theory. The people denying it wouldnt be denying it if they actually knew how evolution worked and understood the mechanics.

Creationists are simply too lazy to form their own opinions, instead relying in the bible to guide their lives. Maybe the brainwashing had something to do with it... seriously people, snap out of it and open your friggin eyes, cuz putting your hands over your ears and humming loudly won't always work. I seriously can't believe people still believe in Creationism, its absolutely insane.

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#94 darkmoney52
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This is why I laugh at creationists: Creationist Lunacy invades science museum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd_ssolGNKc Actually it's pretty disturbing and I'd say it's child abuse.TheFlush

Reminds me of that documentary Jesus Camp(I think that was the name anyway). Pretty sick.

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I don't understand, there is so much evidence for evolution, and none for creationism, I really can't understand why people would choose to pretend it doesn't exist.Thanatos1337

because there is no way that a single cell devolops and creates humans

or it would still be going on today.

plus why do people deny religion.

where did the first mineral come from sure not from the sky cause wait where di the sky come from?

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#96 yoshi-lnex
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It's kind of sad. In alot of cases it just shows inability to think critically. In all these threads I've been in, I've seen alot of evidence produced in favor of evolution, and none in favor of creationism. I only hope that creationists will begin to favor evidence over assumption at some point in their life.
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#97 mac906
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Some people's religions are against the belief of evolution.
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#98 foxhound_fox
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Oh and look at our ancestors the neanderthals, they pretty much looked like half human, half monkey. So the evolution from monkey thing is quite understandable to me.TheFlush

The Neandertals were NOT our ancestors. They are a dead end in the evolutionary history of the human race. They died out at the end of the last ice age. And we didn't evolve from monkeys... we share a common ancestor with Chimpanzees, Orangutans and Gorillas... which also means we share a lot of the same genetic material.

This was our ancestor from 3 to 4 million years ago:

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[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]I don't understand, there is so much evidence for evolution, and none for creationism, I really can't understand why people would choose to pretend it doesn't exist.XxReklawxX

because there is no way that a single cell devolops and creates humans

or it would still be going on today.

plus why do people deny religion.

where did the first mineral come from sure not from the sky cause wait where di the sky come from?

Maybe there is a God, but I'm not going to take our ignorance of how life came to be to mean that all life was created by God who had a son named Jesus and that everyone who doesn't believe in him goes to hell. And evolution is still going on in small ways.

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[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]I don't understand, there is so much evidence for evolution, and none for creationism, I really can't understand why people would choose to pretend it doesn't exist.XxReklawxX

because there is no way that a single cell devolops and creates humans

or it would still be going on today.

plus why do people deny religion.

where did the first mineral come from sure not from the sky cause wait where di the sky come from?

All species did come from single celled organisms, it has been shown in the fossil record. Over time, single cell organisms developed into multicelled organisms, and over time, one of those products of that development was humans.

It does still go on today.

The main reason I've seen people deny religion is the lack of evidence.

Our solar system formed out of the remains of a star that went supernova, gravity in turn formed the planets and sun.