Why do people deny evolution?

And evolution is "fact" until it can be refuted. That is what science is. Atoms being the smallest particles known to humans was "fact" until we discovered sub-atomic particles. Science grows and changes with new evidence that comes along... unlike religion which just denies evidence and bases its "truth" an "fact" off of faith.foxhound_fox

This is why I laugh at creationists: Creationist Lunacy invades science museum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd_ssolGNKc Actually it's pretty disturbing and I'd say it's child abuse.TheFlush

Oh, more hilarity in this video:

"They date the layer by the fossil and the fossil by the layer and the layer by the fossil. What kind of reasoning is that by the way?...That's called circular reasoning."

Unlike beleiving in the Bible because the Bible says you should. :lol:

Too bad he is wrong anyway. IT'S CALLED RADIOMETRIC DATING, JACKASS. Geeze, these people drive me nuts.

Edit: Oh, I had the video paused right there. The sign is right there in the museum explaining it. Unbelievable. :roll:

True, but I don't want to start anything tonight since it's really early in the morning. Regardless though, it is a scientific theory, just like gravity (not trying to argue with you. I agree with you. ._. I'm tired and needing sleep, so starting an argument now won't make me happy).ayanami_rei

[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]I don't understand, there is so much evidence for evolution, and none for creationism, I really can't understand why people would choose to pretend it doesn't exist.XxReklawxX

because there is no way that a single cell devolops and creates humans

or it would still be going on today.

plus why do people deny religion.

where did the first mineral come from sure not from the sky cause wait where di the sky come from?

Your obviously an ignorant brainwashed 10 year old, because that is not at all how evolution works. Over billions of years tiny changes happen in the cells, slowly making a larger cell, then tiny plants like plankton, then fish, then the fish develop legs to walk on land, then they turn into crocodiles and dinosaur, with an offshoot into mammals, dinosaurs die out, but not before a pterodactyl (sp?) evolves into the birds we know today. The little mammals evolve into a multitude of animals, one of these being a monkey. The monkey then makes a slow transition into a human.

All this from small mutations in DNA over billions of years. I'm not sure if thats exactly how it went, but my point is that single cells didnt suddenly evolve into humans, it was extremely gradual. And if you didnt know that before, you're either 10 years old or simply ignorant. And the first mineral came from the millions of rocks that first formed the Earth, and the sky came from the force of gravity pulling in surrounding gases to form a thin layer of air around the earth. Jeez, what do they teach kids in school these days?

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]Oh and look at our ancestors the neanderthals, they pretty much looked like half human, half monkey. So the evolution from monkey thing is quite understandable to me.foxhound_fox

That looks an awful lot like a monkey...

[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]I don't understand, there is so much evidence for evolution, and none for creationism, I really can't understand why people would choose to pretend it doesn't exist.XxReklawxX

because there is no way that a single cell devolops and creates humans

or it would still be going on today.

plus why do people deny religion.

where did the first mineral come from sure not from the sky cause wait where di the sky come from?

I can't start an argument when our points are in agreement. :P

And we should both go to bed...foxhound_fox

How the hell were you born then? You think you didn't start as a singular cell? Please buy a pregnancy book.TheFlush

This is why I laugh at creationists: Creationist Lunacy invades science museum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd_ssolGNKc Actually it's pretty disturbing and I'd say it's child abuse.TheFlush

lmao

reporter: "why are human and dinosaur remains found in the same sedimentary layers?"

creationist: "okay there are several problems for the creationist...uh...there's no doubt about that"

:lol:

That looks an awful lot like a monkey...darkmoney52

In general, for ignorant reasoning.

"Does not explain the origin of the universe" Well, yeah. I think most "believers" of evolution would not disagree with you on that, because Evolution is just mainly dealing with certain accepts, some of which are very vague, in regards to life of the Universe, not birth.

"Goes goes against creationism" Who said it necessarily had to? This probably one of the biggest misconceptions on both sides. While Creationism does in-fact deal with the birth of the Universe, Evolution, as I said before, is just mainly looking into certain accepts of life on the Earth, of which, do not really deal with birth question. Beyond that, Evolution did not say it had all the answers, even to the ones it tries to answer. So, to put things in over-simplistic matter, while Evolution is just dealing with certain accepts of life, who said Creationism cannot, more or less, take care of the rest?

"I am not monkey!" Who said you were? Ignorant person, likely. Most people who have any legit knowledge will say to you that we just share common ancestry with Monkeys. The only thing it means is that we probably had the same origin, however, evolved into different creatures. In comparison, to be over-simplistic (again), sort of like the similarity and differences between Americans and the British.

"Evolution is just theory" If you are going to debate on that sort of logic, should you not debate against gravity? Because, do not forget, if you are going debate thing based on definition, gravity, otherwise know as the "theory of gravity," would as well, would have to go under same sort of criticism. Remember folks, theory gravity is probably one of the most common share believes in the entire world, and yet, its just theory.

Other than that, I think it is important note that Charles Darwin, Father of Evolution, when asked about his religious views, he wrote that he had never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God, and that generally "an Agnostic would be the more correct description of my state of mind."

Now, if Charles Darwin can (potentially) believe in both Evolution and Creationism, why can't you? Just thought...

What I also find sad is because evolutionists haven't got proof of the big bang, creationists automatically state that it should be the work of god then. But there's also no evidence of the existance of a god at all, the universe might as well be created by a giant invisible flower for all we know. It's just as ridiculous as the god concept but there's no one that can prove it to be wrong either.TheFlush

In general, for ignorant reasoning.

"Does not explain the origin of the universe" Well, yeah. I think most "believers" of evolution would not disagree with you on that, because Evolution is just mainly dealing with certain accepts, some of which are very vague, in regards to life of the Universe, not birth.

"Goes goes against creationism" Who said it necessarily had to? This probably one of the biggest misconceptions on both sides. While Creationism does in-fact deal with the birth of the Universe, Evolution, as I said before, is just mainly looking into certain accepts of life on the Earth, of which, do not really deal with birth question. Beyond that, Evolution did not say it had all the answers, even to the ones it tries to answer. So, to put things in over-simplistic matter, while Evolution is just dealing with certain accepts of life, who said Creationism cannot, more or less, take care of the rest?

"I am not monkey!" Who said you were? Ignorant person, likely. Most people who have any legit knowledge will say to you that we just share common ancestry with Monkeys. The only thing it means is that we probably had the same origin, however, evolved into different creatures. In comparison, to be over-simplistic (again), sort of like the similarity and differences between Americans and the British.

"Evolution is just theory" If you are going to debate on that sort of logic, should you not debate against gravity? Because, do not forget, if you are going debate thing based on definition, gravity, otherwise know as the "theory of gravity," would as well, would have to go under same sort of criticism. Remember folks, theory gravity is probably one of the most common share believes in the entire world, and yet, its just theory.

Other than that, I think it is important note that Charles Darwin, Father of Evolution, when asked about his religious views, he wrote that he had never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God, and that generally "an Agnostic would be the more correct description of my state of mind."

Now, if Charles Darwin can (potentially) believe in both Evolution and Creationism, why can't you? Just thought...

Link256

I hope that "I am not a monkey!" bit wasn't directed at me. I was joking btw.

[QUOTE="Link256"]

"I am not monkey!" Who said you were? Ignorant person, likely. Most people who have any legit knowledge will say to you that we just share common ancestry with Monkeys. The only thing it means is that we probably had the same origin, however, evolved into different creatures. In comparison, to be over-simplistic (again), sort of like the similarity and differences between Americans and the British.

darkmoney52

I hope that "I am not a monkey!" bit wasn't directed at me. I was joking btw.

Just to clarify things, no, it was not. Just going off common arguments I hear, rather than being anything specific.

evolutionists and big bang theory are linked to each other in my books. And wiki thinks so too: "Before the 19th century there were a number of hypotheses regarding the evolution of all material phenomena: suns, moons, planets, earth, life, civilization, and society. The number of hypotheses being propounded increased dramatically in the middle of the 19th century." Who says evolution is not about the evolution of the universe also?TheFlush

For that matter, who said Big Bang and Creationism could not necessarily be linked? :shock:

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]evolutionists and big bang theory are linked to each other in my books. And wiki thinks so too: "Before the 19th century there were a number of hypotheses regarding the evolution of all material phenomena: suns, moons, planets, earth, life, civilization, and society. The number of hypotheses being propounded increased dramatically in the middle of the 19th century." Who says evolution is not about the evolution of the universe also?Link256

For that matter, who said Big Bang and Creationism could not necessarily be linked? :shock:

I think the only viable reasons for not believing in evolution are religion and ignorance. And you know if you actually do have those reasons for not believing then I've got no beef with you, they're perfectly fine reasons. But for those who deny it because they think, judging it solely as a scientific theory, that it is faulty or inadequate then here is an exercise for you.

1. Wlak to the edge of a very tall cliff

2. Tell yourself 'gravity is just a theory and it is justified for me to not believe in it'

3. Jump off the cliff convinced that you will not fall

4. ??????

5. Profit.

If you have objections outside of the "it's just a theory" claim then let us all know. If you'd like to just believe that it's not true and get on with your life then do so but don't try to convince others of your persuasion. If you want to learn about it then watch those videos that foxhound posted earlier.

Evolution is not proven enough and it is a theory.kinger256

[QUOTE="kinger256"]Evolution is not proven enough and it is a theory.TheFlush

That just depends on your opinion of the Proof.

[QUOTE="darkmoney52"]That looks an awful lot like a monkey...foxhound_fox

*picture of an ape*

wow that looks an awful lot like an ape

Because of ignorance and stubbornness....

[QUOTE="TheFlush"][QUOTE="kinger256"]Evolution is not proven enough and it is a theory.kinger256

That just depends on your opinion of the Proof.

I guess its just hard for some people like myself to understand what other people see. I don't really understand evolution or the science behind it, and the more i've read into it the more it just seems... well, crazy. I guess a god sounds pretty crazy too.

I just have a hard time believing that humans were ever single celled/ fish/ apes, or whatever you all believe in now, at one time.

Evolution is not proven enough and it is a theory.kinger256

For someone who is arguing against something heavily believed such as Evolution, using just single sentance seems ridiclous. I would think, in turn, such argument would require, in turn, heavy amount of effort, and therefore, I would strongly suggest to you "countability" is term you should probably get yourself more familar with, because as of this moment, you are lacking in it. :|

As for the rest...

"Evolution is just theory" If you are going to debate on that sort of logic, should you not debate against gravity? Because, do not forget, if you are going debate thing based on definition, gravity, otherwise know as the "theory of gravity," would as well, would have to go under same sort of criticism. Remember folks, theory gravity is probably one of the most common share believes in the entire world, and yet, its just theory.

Link256

Why do people deny evolutionThanatos1337

Because it didn't happen /thread

I guess its just hard for some people like myself to understand what other people see. I don't really understand evolution or the science behind it, and the more i've read into it the more it just seems... well, crazy. I guess a god sounds pretty crazy too.

I just have a hard time believing that humans were ever single celled/ fish/ apes, or whatever you all believe in now, at one time.

falconclan

Watch the evolution and narutral selection made easy videos on youtube.

[QUOTE="RoyWilson"][QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="RoyWilson"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] I don't deny it. It just didn't happen. As far as I'm concerned, atheism and darwinism is the same as christianity, buddhism, etc. jaydough

Darwinism is a term used largely by creationists to describe (often in a derogatory way) the theory of evolution.

Atheism is the lack of belief in gods.

Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered around their messiah, Jesus Christ.

Buddhism is a non-theistic religion based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama.

How are these the same?

In truth evolution and atheism are unrelated. Darwinism is a spiteful term and should not be confused with the modern theory of evolution.

carbon dating?
darkIink

[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"] Why do people deny evolutionNuclearKidX

Because it didn't happen /thread

Because humans as a whole think for themselves and have the God-given right to believe whatever the hell they want.Dracargen

Or not.

[QUOTE="darkIink"]carbon dating?
CptJSparrow

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]Because humans as a whole think for themselves and have the God-given right to believe whatever the hell they want.james28893

Or not.

Then they have the empty-meaningless-universe-given right to believe whatever the hell they want.:|

The point: Quit complaining about how boo hoo people don't like evolution. As long as they don't apply for a position to be a physician I don't see how they are hurting anyone.

[QUOTE="james28893"]

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]Because humans as a whole think for themselves and have the God-given right to believe whatever the hell they want.Dracargen

Or not.

Then they have the empty-meaningless-universe-given right to believe whatever the hell they want.:|

The point: Quit complaining about how boo hoo people don't like evolution. As long as they don't apply for a position to be a physician I don't see how they are hurting anyone.

I concur.

[QUOTE="james28893"]

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]Because humans as a whole think for themselves and have the God-given right to believe whatever the hell they want.Dracargen

Or not.

Then they have the empty-meaningless-universe-given right to believe whatever the hell they want.:|

The point: Quit complaining about how boo hoo people don't like evolution. As long as they don't apply for a position to be a physician I don't see how they are hurting anyone.