Why do we need proof to believe in god?

Bruce Willis wouldn't believe anything without proof...

Whenever I talk to people about religion, they always ask me "what proof is there that god does exist?" Why do I need proof to say "I believe in god?"monkeytoes61

Thats the biggest wonder of the world.

What makes more sense

Nothingness that made the universe

or

Nothingness that made God who made the Universe?

Seriously, I dunno myself:P

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Whenever I talk to people about religion, they always ask me "what proof is there that god does exist?" Why do I need proof to say "I believe in god?"hydralisk86

He's not asking why you don't believe in God, just why you try to deter him from his beliefs.

Well then counter them with "What proof is there that there ISNT a God?".

I happen to believe, and I wont stop just because we dont have proof.

Its all in your heart and mind. If people cant seem to believe, then thats there personal decision and I completely understand that, but just because they dont have evidence to proof God is real, they shouldnt say that He isnt because they also dont have evidence to disprove His existence.

Well then counter them with "What proof is there that there ISNT a God?".

I happen to believe, and I wont stop just because we dont have proof.

Its all in your heart and mind. If people cant seem to believe, then thats there personal decision and I completely understand that, but just because they dont have evidence to proof God is real, they shouldnt say that He isnt because they also dont have evidence to disprove His existence.

sarmini

There is no proof there is God, and there is no proof there isn't God. You just have to choose. That's pretty much the end to all religion discussions. Now, if only people would respect the opposite choice...

because no god is existed in this world......johnchan3

If I told you I was an alien posting on GS from my spaceship, you would want proof, wouldn't you?

Some people believe that if they can touch it, feel it, smell it, or see it, that it's real. Anything else they would want concrete evidence to believe.

[QUOTE="sarmini"]

Well then counter them with "What proof is there that there ISNT a God?".

I happen to believe, and I wont stop just because we dont have proof.

Its all in your heart and mind. If people cant seem to believe, then thats there personal decision and I completely understand that, but just because they dont have evidence to proof God is real, they shouldnt say that He isnt because they also dont have evidence to disprove His existence.

instantdeath999

There is no proof there is God, and there is no proof there isn't God. You just have to choose. That's pretty much the end to all religion discussions. Now, if only people would respect the opposite choice...

You don't need proof that you believe in God, you need proof when you claim you know he exists.

Whenever I talk to people about religion, they always ask me "what proof is there that god does exist?" Why do I need proof to say "I believe in god?"monkeytoes61

You shouldn't need any proof to believe in god.

However, if you're in a debate and you're trying to convince someone else that there is a god, you ought to have proof for that.

Depends. If religion is a personal matter for you, who cares? Proof? No proof? Pfft, none of my business why you believe what you do.

I don't concern myself with religion. If you do, that's fine and I have no problem with it. But the second you try to make that stuff MY business, that's when I start demanding proof.

[QUOTE="johnchan3"]because no god is existed in this world......sarmini

human is just animal..... A kind of monkey... no doubt...

You don't need proof that you believe in God, you need proof when you claim you know he exists.

Fortier

This thread isn't going too turn out well.Vilot_Hero

The war has already begun.

If I told you I was an alien posting on GS from my spaceship, you would want proof, wouldn't you?

Some people believe that if they can touch it, feel it, smell it, or see it, that it's real. Anything else they would want concrete evidence to believe.

dog64

[QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="johnchan3"]because no god is existed in this world......johnchan3

human is just animal..... A kind of monkey... no doubt...

You do not need proof to believe in anything... it's all faith. Some, like myself, choose not to believe, but we should all (sadly, most don't) learn to respect each others beliefs.instantdeath999

We should respect each others beliefs as far as they don't affect others in a way they would consider harmful. Christianity is getting to that point in America.

[QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="johnchan3"]because no god is existed in this world......johnchan3

human is just animal..... A kind of monkey... no doubt...

Hey TC, did you just make this thread to see people make fools of themselves arguing back and forth?

Like with that thread "Things that shouldn't be discussed in online forums". If so, then I must say: BRILLIANT!!

[QUOTE="instantdeath999"]You do not need proof to believe in anything... it's all faith. Some, like myself, choose not to believe, but we should all (sadly, most don't) learn to respect each others beliefs.SimpJee

We should respect each others beliefs as far as they don't affect others in a way they would consider harmful. Christianity is getting to that point in America.

Well, of course, there are boundries. Muslims killing Jews? That's not right, I don't care what religion you are. This site: godhatesamerica.com... that's not right, though I guess it is freedom of speech. By the way, that site was in a Heth Ledger discussion, which is how I became aware of it.

Hey TC, did you just make this thread to see people make fools of themselves arguing back and forth?

Like with that thread "Things that shouldn't be discussed in online forums". If so, then I must say: BRILLIANT!!

elblanquito_81

Great when your bored.

[QUOTE="johnchan3"]

[QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="johnchan3"]because no god is existed in this world......SmashBrosLegend

human is just animal..... A kind of monkey... no doubt...

"To defend something is always to discredit it....Yes, the person who defends has never believed in it. If he does believe then the enthusiasm of faith is not a defense, no, it is the assault and the victory; a believer is a victor."

-Kierkegaard

[QUOTE="johnchan3"]

[QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="johnchan3"]because no god is existed in this world......sarmini

human is just animal..... A kind of monkey... no doubt...

Dude, have you ever been to Wal-Mart? Shopped at a grocery store? Really had to take a dump, and been forced to use the public restroom at a gas station? Been to the ghetto? Gone to a sleazy nightclub/bar/strip club?

Come on, man. Eating bugs off of each other's backs? Throwing feces at each other? People practically do that NOW.

[QUOTE="SimpJee"]

[QUOTE="instantdeath999"]You do not need proof to believe in anything... it's all faith. Some, like myself, choose not to believe, but we should all (sadly, most don't) learn to respect each others beliefs.instantdeath999

We should respect each others beliefs as far as they don't affect others in a way they would consider harmful. Christianity is getting to that point in America.

Well, of course, there are boundries. Muslims killing Jews? That's not right, I don't care what religion you are. This site: godhatesamerica.com... that's not right, though I guess it is freedom of speech. By the way, that site was in a Heth Ledger discussion, which is how I became aware of it.

Sorry, kinna got off track but I had to say that.

[QUOTE="dog64"]

If I told you I was an alien posting on GS from my spaceship, you would want proof, wouldn't you?

Some people believe that if they can touch it, feel it, smell it, or see it, that it's real. Anything else they would want concrete evidence to believe.

sarmini

Obviously, anything we can see, touch, smell, and taste are real. But, since we can't do any of that with god, there has to be something else to prove to yourself that he exists. For example, if you're a Christian, you would see the universe itself as well as life itself as evidence of a creator. Some people wouldn't see it as evidence, but you as a Christian would because it makes sense to you. The real question is, do you want god to exist? If you don't, you'll reject any "evidence" that comes your way.

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]

Hey TC, did you just make this thread to see people make fools of themselves arguing back and forth?

Like with that thread "Things that shouldn't be discussed in online forums". If so, then I must say: BRILLIANT!!

instantdeath999

Great when your bored.

[QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="johnchan3"]

[QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="johnchan3"]because no god is existed in this world......MrGeezer

human is just animal..... A kind of monkey... no doubt...

Dude, have you ever been to Wal-Mart? Shopped at a grocery store? Really had to take a dump, and been forced to use the public restroom at a gas station? Been to the ghetto? Gone to a sleazy nightclub/bar/strip club?

Come on, man. Eating bugs off of each other's backs? Throwing feces at each other? People practically do that NOW.

[QUOTE="instantdeath999"][QUOTE="SimpJee"]

[QUOTE="instantdeath999"]You do not need proof to believe in anything... it's all faith. Some, like myself, choose not to believe, but we should all (sadly, most don't) learn to respect each others beliefs.sarmini

We should respect each others beliefs as far as they don't affect others in a way they would consider harmful. Christianity is getting to that point in America.

Well, of course, there are boundries. Muslims killing Jews? That's not right, I don't care what religion you are. This site: godhatesamerica.com... that's not right, though I guess it is freedom of speech. By the way, that site was in a Heth Ledger discussion, which is how I became aware of it.

Sorry, kinna got off track but I had to say that.

Of course, if there is a hell, they will definitely burn... or I hope so. They condemn others to hell, though would God really want his followers to condemn others, when they should be bettering themselves? Some people don't deserve freedom of speech... I mean, the number one rule in Christianity is "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"... seems like they are doing the opposite. They could help people... nah, lets just criticize others. (and in case anyone missed it, I am only criticizing one church)

[QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="dog64"]

If I told you I was an alien posting on GS from my spaceship, you would want proof, wouldn't you?

Some people believe that if they can touch it, feel it, smell it, or see it, that it's real. Anything else they would want concrete evidence to believe.

dog64

Obviously, anything we can see, touch, smell, and taste are real. But, since we can't do any of that with god, there has to be something else to prove to yourself that he exists. For example, if you're a Christian, you would see the universe itself as well as life itself as evidence of a creator. Some people wouldn't see it as evidence, but you as a Christian would because it makes sense to you. The real question is, do you want god to exist? If you don't, you'll reject any "evidence" that comes your way.

[QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="instantdeath999"][QUOTE="SimpJee"]

[QUOTE="instantdeath999"]You do not need proof to believe in anything... it's all faith. Some, like myself, choose not to believe, but we should all (sadly, most don't) learn to respect each others beliefs.instantdeath999

We should respect each others beliefs as far as they don't affect others in a way they would consider harmful. Christianity is getting to that point in America.

Well, of course, there are boundries. Muslims killing Jews? That's not right, I don't care what religion you are. This site: godhatesamerica.com... that's not right, though I guess it is freedom of speech. By the way, that site was in a Heth Ledger discussion, which is how I became aware of it.

Sorry, kinna got off track but I had to say that.

Of course, if there is a hell, they will definitely burn... or I hope so. They condemn others to hell, though would God really want his followers to condemn others, when they should be bettering themselves? Some people don't deserve freedom of speech... I mean, the number one rule in Christianity is "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"... seems like they are doing the opposite. They could help people... nah, lets just criticize others. (and in case anyone missed it, I am only criticizing one church)

I once walked into a public restroom. And there was poop on the ceiling right above the urinal.

Yes, on the ceiling.

POOP. ON. THE. CEILING.

It's quite clear what happened. Somebody THREW poop onto the ceiling (possibly mixing it with something in order to get it to stick better) in the hopes that someone would walk up to the urinal and have a piece of poop fall on top of his head.

You're young, so I'll forgive you for not realizing it yet, but people are ****ing disgusting.

[QUOTE="instantdeath999"][QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="instantdeath999"][QUOTE="SimpJee"]

[QUOTE="instantdeath999"]You do not need proof to believe in anything... it's all faith. Some, like myself, choose not to believe, but we should all (sadly, most don't) learn to respect each others beliefs.sarmini

We should respect each others beliefs as far as they don't affect others in a way they would consider harmful. Christianity is getting to that point in America.

Well, of course, there are boundries. Muslims killing Jews? That's not right, I don't care what religion you are. This site: godhatesamerica.com... that's not right, though I guess it is freedom of speech. By the way, that site was in a Heth Ledger discussion, which is how I became aware of it.

Sorry, kinna got off track but I had to say that.

Of course, if there is a hell, they will definitely burn... or I hope so. They condemn others to hell, though would God really want his followers to condemn others, when they should be bettering themselves? Some people don't deserve freedom of speech... I mean, the number one rule in Christianity is "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"... seems like they are doing the opposite. They could help people... nah, lets just criticize others. (and in case anyone missed it, I am only criticizing one church)

Eh, there some church, I think in Virginia, I don't remember though... and I don't care that you didn't say "if", you don't have to, it's what you believe. I just said "if" because I in particular am not really a believer.

I once walked into a public restroom. And there was poop on the ceiling right above the urinal.

Yes, on the ceiling.

POOP. ON. THE. CEILING.

It's quite clear what happened. Somebody THREW poop onto the ceiling (possibly mixing it with something in order to get it to stick better) in the hopes that someone would walk up to the urinal and have a piece of poop fall on top of his head.

You're young, so I'll forgive you for not realizing it yet, but people are ****ing disgusting.

MrGeezer

What was that MJ quote? "doo-doo feces everywhere" or something...

I once walked into a public restroom. And there was poop on the ceiling right above the urinal.

Yes, on the ceiling.

POOP. ON. THE. CEILING.

It's quite clear what happened. Somebody THREW poop onto the ceiling (possibly mixing it with something in order to get it to stick better) in the hopes that someone would walk up to the urinal and have a piece of poop fall on top of his head.

You're young, so I'll forgive you for not realizing it yet, but people are ****ing disgusting.

MrGeezer