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#151 RobbieH1234
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My exposure to Twilight is limited to the film and those God-awful fans who talk about it day and night. You know, the ones who swoon at the mention of Edward Cullen and cried at the New Moon trailer. Therefore, they should all be cast into a fiery chasm along with Miley Cyrus, The Jonas Brothers and Twitter.

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#152 super_mario_128
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I dislike it because nothing remotely interesting happens until the 350th page, and even then: [spoiler] It's ruined by 30 or so pages of Bella whining for Edward who isn't with her presently [/spoiler] Because the characters are unlikeable, generic and shallow. The romance between Bella and Edward could surely be nominated for the dullest in the history of literature. And I'm barely getting started...
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#153 freek666
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1. In my school library they made a list of top 100 books of all time. It came second, beating out the likes of Nineteen Eighty-Four, A Catcher in The Rye and various other classics like Pride and Prejudice. Harry Potter came first.

2. Poorly written from what I have read, albeit its not much.

3. The fans, nuff said.

4. VAMPIRES DO NOT SPARKLE IN ******* DAYLIGHT!

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#154 super_mario_128
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Harry Potter came first.

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Lol, now THERE'S a surprise.

Not.

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#155 RobbieH1234
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In Breaking Dawn:

[spoiler] does Edward really perform a c-section on Bella with his teeth, and then Jacob imprints on the baby? [/spoiler]

If so; lol.

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#156 dynam3
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Why do you think!, Its so bloody lame

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#157 -Jombo-
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I hate the fact that there isn't one teenage girl that I've talked to that hasn't read Twilight. I heard the plot and the storyline and I just rolled my eyes...
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#158 Deihjan
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Because Bella is completely effed up, she's everything I don't want to be, and Stephenie Meyer is a fat cow who should die. I'd assassinate her if I could, and the world would shed no tears.
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#159 TheOddQuantum
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Speaking of Twilight...

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#160 jcrawed
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because everything just happened and without convincing reasons
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#161 Deihjan
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Speaking of Twilight...

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I lol'd :lol:
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#162 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I love it because it's fresh and sexy.
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#163 cousin_eddy
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Because it is a poorly written series.
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#164 kingdre
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  1. There are better vampire novels.
  2. There are better vampire movies.
  3. It's not hate. I just don't like it.
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#165 fiscope
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It is the miley cirus of literature, shallow and uninspiring, easy to swallow but not very nourishing to the mind.

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#166 Mr_Manikin52
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Sparkling Vampires.

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#167 raven_squad
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I honestly didn't hate it. The film isn't targeted at me, so...that automatically limits my ability to hate it. It's just a silly novel for girls to fantasize about big tough Vampire men. So what. It's not well written, but it's intriguing, and the film was fairly well put together. It's mediocre, but not really hatable in my opinion.
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#168 Buck_Hotep
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If I was asked this question just a year ago I would say I hated the series, but now I honestly can say I'm quite thankful for it. I say that not because the series is great, good or even average. It's still a by-the-numbers fanfic level piece of writing but it has introduced people to reading books the way Rowling's series had. It's hard to hate anything which becomes a gateway for young people who then want to look around for something similar to read. In the end, they may even pick up the better books with similar themes.

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#169 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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It's hard to hate anything which becomes a gateway for young people who then want to look around for something similar to read. Buck_Hotep
Agreed. Furthermore, for me, it's hard to hate anything that makes vampires/horror/fantasy more mainstream.
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#170 Buck_Hotep
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[QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]It's hard to hate anything which becomes a gateway for young people who then want to look around for something similar to read. Jandurin
Agreed. Furthermore, for me, it's hard to hate anything that makes vampires/horror/fantasy more mainstream.

My niece who is a huge fan of Twilight is now becoming an even bigger fan of the more serious and hardcore horror. So, I will say the series has had one success.

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If I was asked this question just a year ago I would say I hated the series, but now I honestly can say I'm quite thankful for it. I say that not because the series is great, good or even average. It's still a by-the-numbers fanfic level piece of writing but it has introduced people to reading books the way Rowling's series had. It's hard to hate anything which becomes a gateway for young people who then want to look around for something similar to read. In the end, they may even pick up the better books with similar themes.

Buck_Hotep

I am sorry, but getting people back into reading is completely outweighed by the downright dangerous messages the book sends to young girls.

Oh yeah, true love is having sex where the girl has her bones broken and passes out. Oh yeah, if a guy leaves you hurt yourself to the point of near death because that will get him back. Don't mind if he is cold and abusive, just stick with it because you can unluck his nice fluffy side!!!

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#172 MuddVader
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And if not why do you like it? I hate it because it is demeaning to women in a way because the main character is shallow and willing to give up everything to be wit a sprakly vampire who stalks her.

This article describes exactly why i cant stand the series.

Film-Guy


What?
I dont think you payed much attention, i never even thought about that. Just because shes a main character and female doesnt mean that she has to be a heroin or something. Have you read the books?

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#173 MuddVader
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[QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

If I was asked this question just a year ago I would say I hated the series, but now I honestly can say I'm quite thankful for it. I say that not because the series is great, good or even average. It's still a by-the-numbers fanfic level piece of writing but it has introduced people to reading books the way Rowling's series had. It's hard to hate anything which becomes a gateway for young people who then want to look around for something similar to read. In the end, they may even pick up the better books with similar themes.

LostProphetFLCL

I am sorry, but getting people back into reading is completely outweighed by the downright dangerous messages the book sends to young girls.

Oh yeah, true love is having sex where the girl has her bones broken and passes out. Oh yeah, if a guy leaves you hurt yourself to the point of near death because that will get him back. Don't mind if he is cold and abusive, just stick with it because you can unluck his nice fluffy side!!!


When the hell did they have sex?
He loved her anyways, he left because he thought it was dangerous for her to be with them, Vampires, because recently before he left one of his brothers went nuts when she cut her finger and almost killerd her, so the family left for Bella's safety, and edward just made it seem as though he didnt love her anymore but really well he was gone he ached for her just as much as she hurt for him.
She does dangerous things not because that will bring him back but because when she does dangerous things in the book, she hears his voice, and that gave her some hope for life, thats how much she loved him, she just wanted to hear him one more time, it had nothing to do with that she though he was going to come back because she did stupid things.
You should really read the ****in books before you talk **** about them...

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#174 deactivated-59d151f079814
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... Because it know way compares to the movies like "The Lost Boys" and "Interview with a Vampire".
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I am sorry, but getting people back into reading is completely outweighed by the downright dangerous messages the book sends to young girls.

LostProphetFLCL
It's FICTION. I didn't go around killing people with swords after reading Conan books. Or having sex with maidens or whatever. Cripes.
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#176 Deihjan
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You should really read the ****in books before you talk **** about them...

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Oh god, someone defending Twilight. Let me guess, you're 12/fe/ca ? :P
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#177 Wings_008
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twilight was a complete waste of time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpRRtl2xcs4

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#178 Buck_Hotep
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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

I am sorry, but getting people back into reading is completely outweighed by the downright dangerous messages the book sends to young girls.

Jandurin

It's FICTION. I didn't go around killing people with swords after reading Conan books. Or having sex with maidens or whatever. Cripes.

But that would've been awesome. Then again you'd, of course, only go around killing the evil people.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

I am sorry, but getting people back into reading is completely outweighed by the downright dangerous messages the book sends to young girls.

Buck_Hotep

It's FICTION. I didn't go around killing people with swords after reading Conan books. Or having sex with maidens or whatever. Cripes.

But that would've been awesome. Then again you'd, of course, only go around killing the evil people.

Didn't he kill random people that were just in his way, too? :lol:
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#180 Buck_Hotep
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[QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] It's FICTION. I didn't go around killing people with swords after reading Conan books. Or having sex with maidens or whatever. Cripes.Jandurin

But that would've been awesome. Then again you'd, of course, only go around killing the evil people.

Didn't he kill random people that were just in his way, too? :lol:

Yeah, but that's where you wouldn't follow the full influence of what you read. You would be smart enough to know what was right and wrong and not let what you read influence everything you did.

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#181 Deihjan
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[QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] It's FICTION. I didn't go around killing people with swords after reading Conan books. Or having sex with maidens or whatever. Cripes.Jandurin

But that would've been awesome. Then again you'd, of course, only go around killing the evil people.

Didn't he kill random people that were just in his way, too? :lol:

I think I like Conan :P

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#182 Deihjan
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You would be smart enough to know what was right and wrong and not let what you read influence everything you read.

Buck_Hotep
Are you sure about that? Most of the twilight fangirls I know seriously believe in the books D:
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[QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

You would be smart enough to know what was right and wrong and not let what you read influence everything you read.

Deihjan
Are you sure about that? Most of the twilight fangirls I know seriously believe in the books D:

Well, that's not the book's fault, deihjan, believe me.
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#185 Buck_Hotep
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[QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

You would be smart enough to know what was right and wrong and not let what you read influence everything you read.

Deihjan

Are you sure about that? Most of the twilight fangirls I know seriously believe in the books D:

Well, I guess they're not as smart then. :P

And ye're new avy is quite hypnotic in a kawaii sort of way.

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#186 Deihjan
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[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

You would be smart enough to know what was right and wrong and not let what you read influence everything you read.

Jandurin
Are you sure about that? Most of the twilight fangirls I know seriously believe in the books D:

Well, that's not the book's fault, deihjan, believe me.

I still say Stephenie Meyer should be assassinated, preferably with poison, so she can feel the life slowly seep out of her ugly self. :P
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You know, the parts with the gunfire and the gang bangers and the occasional murders.MuddVader
I dunno why, but I lol'd.
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#188 Deihjan
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? 17 and i'm a male who lived in the **** parts of Ontario California for most of his life. You know, the parts with the gunfire and the gang bangers and the occasional murders.
So go **** yourself you pretentious ****

MuddVader

Wow, boy, no need to get all defensive-aggressive on me, twilight-lover....

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[QUOTE="MuddVader"]You know, the parts with the gunfire and the gang bangers and the occasional murders.Jandurin
I dunno why, but I lol'd.


Because you may not know what it feels like to worry for your families lives when gunfire goes off outside your house..

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I honestly would like to see books written on the World of Darkness realm.. Vampires the Masquerade Bloodlines was a amazing game, and those vampires were far more interesting than the super model vampires that can do anything in this one.
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#191 Deihjan
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="MuddVader"]You know, the parts with the gunfire and the gang bangers and the occasional murders.MuddVader

I dunno why, but I lol'd.


Because you may not know what it feels like to worry for your families lives when gunfire goes off outside your house..

This isn't about your family dying or not, so if you need to get attention or need to vent, do it somewhere else. Srsly, this is the internet, it's srs bisness.. :roll:

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[QUOTE="MuddVader"]

? 17 and i'm a male who lived in the **** parts of Ontario California for most of his life. You know, the parts with the gunfire and the gang bangers and the occasional murders.
So go **** yourself you pretentious ****

Deihjan

Wow, boy, no need to get all defensive-aggressive on me, twilight-lover....


I do love the story of Twilight, i wont deny that, but really, only the first book is called Twilight, so you may want to come up with a new name to insult people, "New Moon Lover" doesnt work too well, neither does "Eclipse Lover" and so on.

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#194 Deihjan
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[QUOTE="Deihjan"]

[QUOTE="MuddVader"]

? 17 and i'm a male who lived in the **** parts of Ontario California for most of his life. You know, the parts with the gunfire and the gang bangers and the occasional murders.
So go **** yourself you pretentious ****

MuddVader

Wow, boy, no need to get all defensive-aggressive on me, twilight-lover....


I do love the story of Twilight, i wont deny that, but really, only the first book is called Twilight, so you may want to come up with a new name to insult people, "New Moon Lover" doesnt work too well, neither does "Eclipse Lover" and so on.

Sparkly-vampire-fruit-baseball-acidsex-Renesmee+Jacob=pedophilia rape-werewolf bastard child-lover.

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[QUOTE="MuddVader"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] I dunno why, but I lol'd.Deihjan


Because you may not know what it feels like to worry for your families lives when gunfire goes off outside your house..

This isn't about your family dying or not, so if you need to get attention or need to vent, do it somewhere else. Srsly, this is the internet, it's srs bisness.. :roll:


You dont win, but i have enough decency not to spam someones post, so i'm done ^^
If you have anything more pointless to saythan feel free to PM me.

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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

If I was asked this question just a year ago I would say I hated the series, but now I honestly can say I'm quite thankful for it. I say that not because the series is great, good or even average. It's still a by-the-numbers fanfic level piece of writing but it has introduced people to reading books the way Rowling's series had. It's hard to hate anything which becomes a gateway for young people who then want to look around for something similar to read. In the end, they may even pick up the better books with similar themes.

MuddVader

I am sorry, but getting people back into reading is completely outweighed by the downright dangerous messages the book sends to young girls.

Oh yeah, true love is having sex where the girl has her bones broken and passes out. Oh yeah, if a guy leaves you hurt yourself to the point of near death because that will get him back. Don't mind if he is cold and abusive, just stick with it because you can unluck his nice fluffy side!!!


When the hell did they have sex?
He loved her anyways, he left because he thought it was dangerous for her to be with them, Vampires, because recently before he left one of his brothers went nuts when she cut her finger and almost killerd her, so the family left for Bella's safety, and edward just made it seem as though he didnt love her anymore but really well he was gone he ached for her just as much as she hurt for him.
She does dangerous things not because that will bring him back but because when she does dangerous things in the book, she hears his voice, and that gave her some hope for life, thats how much she loved him, she just wanted to hear him one more time, it had nothing to do with that she though he was going to come back because she did stupid things.
You should really read the ****in books before you talk **** about them...

I've read the overview of all the books and even then, thats still dangerous messages despite your trying to pretty them up.

If I remember correctly, doesn't Edward also try and kill himself when he leaves becauses he misses her? Also, theres the whole thing of the one werewolf character (is his name Jacob?) who pretty much falls in love with a newborn which is just creepy.

And genius, they have sex in the later books which is how they have a baby. This is after he warns her how badly she could be hurt during the sex, and her spine breaks during birth. He has to bite her to save her at that point, and then we get the cheesy BS of her suddenly being "the most beautiful vampire ever!".

Funny though, you try and rag on me about reading the books yet I am having to inform you about certain events in the books:lol:

Anyways, there are much better books young girls could be reading that I wish would get more of a popular push. One that comes to mind (which oddly enough the movie based on the books stars Kristen Stewart as the main character:lol:) is "Speak". It is a great book that focuses on the main character, Melinda, who had gotten date raped at a party. In her distress, she had called the police which completely ruined the party leaving her a social outcast afterwards.

It not only does a GREAT job of showing just how rape can effect someone, but at the same time it depicts high school relationships/popularity brilliantly and even goes into every high schoolers crisis of finding themselves and what they want to do with their lives. It is well written and very interesting and I wish it was more well-known. It deserved more than just being a "lifetime" movie (granted the movie is surprisingly good) and I really wish it was more well-known because the book is not only entertaining but very enlightening.

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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

And if not why do you like it? I hate it because it is demeaning to women in a way because the main character is shallow and willing to give up everything to be wit a sprakly vampire who stalks her.

This article describes exactly why i cant stand the series.

bsman00

They are vampires who play baseball....i find this tarded


If you were a vampire, and you lived with a coven of vampires posing as normal people, your telling me that if you liked baseball that if given the chance to play with your fellow vampiresyou wouldnt have a really high intensity baseball game? i dont even like baseball and i would play if i had superhuman abilities lol.

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They are vampires who play baseball....i find this tardedbsman00
of all the problems in twilight, you're focusing on the fact that the vampires like to play a game?
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#199 Deihjan
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[QUOTE="bsman00"]They are vampires who play baseball....i find this tardedJandurin
of all the problems in twilight, you're focusing on the fact that the vampires like to play a game?

Yep, because they can run so superfast and hit the ball so superhard, that the game is fascinatingly stupid :P I lol'd so hard during the movie when they started playing :lol:
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#200 LostProphetFLCL
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I am sorry, but getting people back into reading is completely outweighed by the downright dangerous messages the book sends to young girls.

Jandurin

It's FICTION. I didn't go around killing people with swords after reading Conan books. Or having sex with maidens or whatever. Cripes.

Just because it's fiction doesn't mean it has no meaning and that it won't leave an impression on people.

The thing here is this is targeted at a specific audience, an audience that is overwhelmingly full of impressionable young girls who likely have no idea what a relationship means. This could very easily be the only thing alot of young girls would have to look at in terms of what relationships are before they are in one and considering how awful the relationship is let alone unrealistic, that can be a very dangerous thing.

Hell, as a guy I have spent most my life shaking off these incredibly retarded, unrealistic ideas of what relationships were based on what I had seen from Hollywood. Knowing the reality has finally made me ready to have a very good relationship...