Why does this site bash religion all the time?

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="L8erSquare"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]

You say that religion has cost the lives of millions of people throughout time? Many of todays serial killers are Atheist.

Kamekazi_69

...its a question?

Umm... im not atheist but you should open a history book. Many groups of people used religion as a means to justify war, some still do which is sad. Also serial killers dont kill as mach people as an army would :(

Those deaths aren't in the name of atheism though.

:roll: Yes, but if people die at the hands of an atheist, that's irrelevant unless the atheist killed them in the name of his atheism. Otherwise, you may as well claim that brown hair kills because most killers, in line with the human population in general, have brown hair.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]

Shouldn't you keep it to yourselfs?

Kamekazi_69

Why should we? Crucially, don't you see the hypocrisy of complaining about bashing religion, and then go on about atheist serial killers? What makes you think that people who enjoy debating religion shouldn't do so, and what makes you think that your faith is immune from criticism? What an incoherent mess of a post you've produced.

:roll: Yet another steaming pile of fail. I never said you should. But if you can criticise atheism, why can't I criticise religion? And if, as you claim, I shouldn't criticise religion, then you shouldn't criticise atheism. It's double standards.

What, the one by h8smikemoore? How's that relevant?

Religion always should be open to criticism. DeeJayInphinity

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="L8erSquare"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]

You say that religion has cost the lives of millions of people throughout time? Many of todays serial killers are Atheist.

Kamekazi_69

...its a question?

Umm... im not atheist but you should open a history book. Many groups of people used religion as a means to justify war, some still do which is sad. Also serial killers dont kill as mach people as an army would :(

Those deaths aren't in the name of atheism though.

Yes you are.

[QUOTE="MindFreeze"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="L8erSquare"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]

You say that religion has cost the lives of millions of people throughout time? Many of todays serial killers are Atheist.

Kamekazi_69

...its a question?

Umm... im not atheist but you should open a history book. Many groups of people used religion as a means to justify war, some still do which is sad. Also serial killers dont kill as mach people as an army would :(

Lots of people with different beliefs have taken many lives, but how many of those took those lives in the name of their religion?

More have been killed in the name of theism than in the name of atheism.

... You just restarted the whole religon thread thing...
And I had gone in without seeing one for a loong time...
vito_128

the last time i was online i saw a lot, o well, there should be 1 official atheist thread and 1 official religious thread to stop the rediculous feuding.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Religion always should be open to criticism. Kamekazi_69

But you were trying to argue that we should stop criticising religion. Backing down, I see.

rediculous

Androvinus

>.< I feel fury.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Religion always should be open to criticism. Kamekazi_69

More have been killed in the name of theism than in the name of atheism.

Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Religion always should be open to criticism. DeeJayInphinity

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Religion always should be open to criticism. LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Religion always should be open to criticism. Funky_Llama

But you were trying to argue that we should stop criticising religion. Backing down, I see.

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Religion always should be open to criticism. Funky_Llama

But you were trying to argue that we should stop criticising religion. Backing down, I see.

Anything should be open to criticism. It's my business if I make it so.DeeJayInphinity

People forget that this is a forum. It is meant for discussion.

I am not so much of a jackass that I would go to my local church and try to tell them why I believe they are wrong.

MetalGear_Ninty

Discussions involve arguments. And this isn't a church...

I love threads like this. Gets me all giddy on the inside.

Anyways, if people would stop bringing it up all the time then I wouldn't have to bash it so much. You create and I bash, or you don't create and I don't bash. You're choice.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Religion always should be open to criticism. Kamekazi_69

But you were trying to argue that we should stop criticising religion. Backing down, I see.

:roll: Ugh... I never, not once, claimed that you shouldn't criticise atheism. Quit it with the straw man arguments. And by the way, whether you want it to stop is irrelevant to whether it should stop.

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]

People forget that this is a forum. It is meant for discussion.

I am not so much of a jackass that I would go to my local church and try to tell them why I believe they are wrong.

tccavey2

Discussions involve arguments. And this isn't a church...

I love threads like this. Gets me all giddy on the inside.

Anyways, if people would stop bringing it up all the time then I wouldn't have to bash it so much. You create and I bash, or you don't create and I don't bash. You're choice.

dracula_16

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"] Anything should be open to criticism. It's my business if I make it so.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"] Anything should be open to criticism. It's my business if I make it so.LJS9502_basic

Everything should be open to criticism if the arguments are intelligent, and in a proper place not to truly offend anyone.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"] Anything should be open to criticism. It's my business if I make it so.LJS9502_basic

:roll: Does it? Why? And you're happy to debate on here, and if you're debating, beliefs are inevitably criticised. So I suppose you're intolerant and arrogant too.

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Religion always should be open to criticism. Funky_Llama

But you were trying to argue that we should stop criticising religion. Backing down, I see.

:roll: Ugh... I never, not once, claimed that you shouldn't criticise atheism. Quit it with the straw man arguments. And by the way, whether you want it to stop is irrelevant to whether it should stop.

I never pictured you as one of the intolerant.LJS9502_basic

Everything should be open to criticism if the arguments are intelligent, and in a proper place not to truly offend anyone.

tccavey2

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

More have been killed in the name of theism than in the name of atheism.

LJS9502_basic

Yeah, but it's irrelevant when it's not done in the name of atheism or Christianity or whatever beliefs the person follows.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I never pictured you as one of the intolerant.DeeJayInphinity

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I never pictured you as one of the intolerant.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

More have been killed in the name of theism than in the name of atheism.

Funky_Llama

Yeah, but it's irrelevant when it's not done in the name of atheism or Christianity or whatever beliefs the person follows.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"] Anything should be open to criticism. It's my business if I make it so.LJS9502_basic

You don't have to criticize someones belief directly. All you can do is criticize and evaluate and idea as a whole, which isn't intolerance. The only way you can criticize a persons beliefs is by personally directing it at them. Calling them stupid or what not. Ther's nothing wrong with criticizing a whole concept.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I never pictured you as one of the intolerant.DeeJayInphinity

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Religion always should be open to criticism. Kamekazi_69

But you were trying to argue that we should stop criticising religion. Backing down, I see.

:roll: Ugh... I never, not once, claimed that you shouldn't criticise atheism. Quit it with the straw man arguments. And by the way, whether you want it to stop is irrelevant to whether it should stop.

:roll: If you think that religion shouldn't be criticised, then atheism shouldn't be either; to claim only one of them to be immune to criticism is double standards. Both religion and atheism are not immune to criticism.

Besides, it was a fail. ;)

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="L8erSquare"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]

You say that religion has cost the lives of millions of people throughout time? Many of todays serial killers are Atheist.

Funky_Llama

...its a question?

Umm... im not atheist but you should open a history book. Many groups of people used religion as a means to justify war, some still do which is sad. Also serial killers dont kill as mach people as an army would :(

Those deaths aren't in the name of atheism though.

Well thats because atheism has been the minority. In the past the majority decided who lived or died.

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

I love threads like this. Gets me all giddy on the inside.

Anyways, if people would stop bringing it up all the time then I wouldn't have to bash it so much. You create and I bash, or you don't create and I don't bash. You're choice.

LJS9502_basic

Then take that up with them. Not me.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I never pictured you as one of the intolerant.LJS9502_basic

And yet you're happy to criticise others' beliefs.

You don't have to criticize someones belief directly. All you can do is criticize and evaluate and idea as a whole, which isn't intolerance. The only way you can criticize a persons beliefs is by personally directing it at them. Calling them stupid or what not. Ther's nothing wrong with criticizing a whole concept.

Robinho1873

Again...it's not anyone's business to criticize the beliefs of another. Though I find this tends to come from insecurity in one's own beliefs. Because when you are secure in your beliefs...you don't find the need to put down others.;)LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="L8erSquare"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]

You say that religion has cost the lives of millions of people throughout time? Many of todays serial killers are Atheist.

gatorteen

...its a question?

Umm... im not atheist but you should open a history book. Many groups of people used religion as a means to justify war, some still do which is sad. Also serial killers dont kill as mach people as an army would :(

Those deaths aren't in the name of atheism though.

Well thats because atheism has been the minority. In the past the majority decided who lived or died.

:roll: I wasn't aware that whatever is the majority belief automatically inspires suppression and killing.

And yet you're happy to criticise others' beliefs.

Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="Robinho1873"]

You don't have to criticize someones belief directly. All you can do is criticize and evaluate and idea as a whole, which isn't intolerance. The only way you can criticize a persons beliefs is by personally directing it at them. Calling them stupid or what not. Ther's nothing wrong with criticizing a whole concept.

LJS9502_basic

Debate =/= forcing beliefs on others. ;)

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Again...it's not anyone's business to criticize the beliefs of another. Though I find this tends to come from insecurity in one's own beliefs. Because when you are secure in your beliefs...you don't find the need to put down others.;)DeeJayInphinity

You aren't getting the difference between a discussion and bashing.

PS...the words tend is not an absolute quantifier.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Religion always should be open to criticism. LJS9502_basic

Because it is a forum, it is about discussion. People ahould leave political correctness at the door, and if they're scared of being offended, then don't enter.

I'll reiterate my point earlier, I wouldn't be as much of a jackass to go to my local church and to criticise religious beliefs.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Robinho1873"]

You don't have to criticize someones belief directly. All you can do is criticize and evaluate and idea as a whole, which isn't intolerance. The only way you can criticize a persons beliefs is by personally directing it at them. Calling them stupid or what not. Ther's nothing wrong with criticizing a whole concept.

Funky_Llama

Debate =/= forcing beliefs on others. ;)

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Religion always should be open to criticism. Funky_Llama

But you were trying to argue that we should stop criticising religion. Backing down, I see.

:roll: Ugh... I never, not once, claimed that you shouldn't criticise atheism. Quit it with the straw man arguments. And by the way, whether you want it to stop is irrelevant to whether it should stop.

:roll: If you think that religion shouldn't be criticised, then atheism shouldn't be either; to claim only one of them to be immune to criticism is double standards. Both religion and atheism are not immune to criticism.

Besides, it was a fail. ;)

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

And yet you're happy to criticise others' beliefs.

LJS9502_basic

Criticising someone's beliefs does not necessitate claiming they can't believe them. ;)

Besides, you have done that. You've attempted to find fault with my argument, right there; ie, criticism.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Again...it's not anyone's business to criticize the beliefs of another. Though I find this tends to come from insecurity in one's own beliefs. Because when you are secure in your beliefs...you don't find the need to put down others.;)LJS9502_basic

You aren't getting the difference between a discussion and bashing.