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They are insecure with their beliefs, so they have to put other people down. And I guess they think that if you say God is not real enough times then maybe he will disappear. They just do not want to be held accountable to their creator.Redneck33
:lol: So I suppose that since you're criticising atheism, you must be insecure in your own beliefs.
[QUOTE="Redneck33"]They are insecure with their beliefs, so they have to put other people down. And I guess they think that if you say God is not real enough times then maybe he will disappear. They just do not want to be held accountable to their creator.Funky_Llama
:lol: So I suppose that since you're criticising atheism, you must be insecure in your own beliefs.
I am simply returning the favor ;).
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]They are insecure with their beliefs, so they have to put other people down. And I guess they think that if you say God is not real enough times then maybe he will disappear. They just do not want to be held accountable to their creator.Redneck33
:lol: So I suppose that since you're criticising atheism, you must be insecure in your own beliefs.
I am simply returning the favor ;).
Returning the favor because you're insecure?[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]They are insecure with their beliefs, so they have to put other people down. And I guess they think that if you say God is not real enough times then maybe he will disappear. They just do not want to be held accountable to their creator.Redneck33
:lol: So I suppose that since you're criticising atheism, you must be insecure in your own beliefs.
I am simply returning the favor ;).
:roll: Hypocrisy...
[QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]They are insecure with their beliefs, so they have to put other people down. And I guess they think that if you say God is not real enough times then maybe he will disappear. They just do not want to be held accountable to their creator.DeeJayInphinity
:lol: So I suppose that since you're criticising atheism, you must be insecure in your own beliefs.
I am simply returning the favor ;).
Returning the favor because you're insecure?Monkey see, monkey do. Atheist insults my belief, then I insult theirs. If I am insecure in my belief, then that would mean so are you.
[QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]They are insecure with their beliefs, so they have to put other people down. And I guess they think that if you say God is not real enough times then maybe he will disappear. They just do not want to be held accountable to their creator.Funky_Llama
:lol: So I suppose that since you're criticising atheism, you must be insecure in your own beliefs.
I am simply returning the favor ;).
:roll: Hypocrisy...
Hypocrisy :lol:! Must I bring to your attention that post you wrote saying atheists are more intellegent?
Wait, why am I insecure? :?Monkey see, monkey do. Atheist insults my belief, then I insult theirs. If I am insecure in my belief, then that would mean so are you.
Redneck33
Hypocrisy :lol:! Must I bring to your attention that post you wrote saying atheists are more intellegent?
Redneck33
On average, aren't they?
[QUOTE="Redneck33"]Wait, why am I insecure? :?Monkey see, monkey do. Atheist insults my belief, then I insult theirs. If I am insecure in my belief, then that would mean so are you.
DeeJayInphinity
Then it all comes down to who started it, and in my case, I was first insulted by an atheist before I fought back. Therefore, in my case, I am the "monkey".
And if you go by my theory, then we are both insecure, but if you go by your theory, we both aren't. Either way it is an even playing field.
[QUOTE="Redneck33"]Hypocrisy :lol:! Must I bring to your attention that post you wrote saying atheists are more intellegent?
Engrish_Major
On average, aren't they?
Here in America? No. All the atheists I know are working dead end jobs, while a lot of the theists I know are making the big money and advancing in their field of expertise.
[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Wait, why am I insecure? :?Monkey see, monkey do. Atheist insults my belief, then I insult theirs. If I am insecure in my belief, then that would mean so are you.
Redneck33
Then it all comes down to who started it, and in my case, I was first insulted by an atheist before I fought back. Therefore, in my case, I am the "monkey".
And if you go by my theory, then we are both insecure, but if you go by your theory, we both aren't. Either way it is an even playing field.
I didn't even give a "theory." :?[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]They are insecure with their beliefs, so they have to put other people down. And I guess they think that if you say God is not real enough times then maybe he will disappear. They just do not want to be held accountable to their creator.Redneck33
:lol: So I suppose that since you're criticising atheism, you must be insecure in your own beliefs.
I am simply returning the favor ;).
:roll: Hypocrisy...
Hypocrisy :lol:! Must I bring to your attention that post you wrote saying atheists are more intellegent?
I pointed out that, contrary to your claims, there is a correlation between atheism and intelligence. That doesn't mean "all atheists are more intelligent than religious people", and it doesn't, contrary to your claim, prove that I have some kind of atheistic superiority compex.
[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Hypocrisy :lol:! Must I bring to your attention that post you wrote saying atheists are more intellegent?
Redneck33
On average, aren't they?
Here in America? No. All the atheists I know are working dead end jobs, while a lot of the theists I know are making the big money and advancing in their field of expertise.
Your anecdotal evidence is trumped by large-scale studies that show that atheists IQs are on average higher than religious peoples'.
[QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Hypocrisy :lol:! Must I bring to your attention that post you wrote saying atheists are more intellegent?
Engrish_Major
On average, aren't they?
Here in America? No. All the atheists I know are working dead end jobs, while a lot of the theists I know are making the big money and advancing in their field of expertise.
Your anecdotal evidence is trumped by large-scale studies that show that atheists IQs are on average higher than religious peoples'.
The ONLY studies I have seen have been comparing countries. When you do that, the amount of variables that come into play is mind boggling. I bet if there was a study conducted in ONLY the US or UK, then the results would show equal intelligence.
[QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Wait, why am I insecure? :?Monkey see, monkey do. Atheist insults my belief, then I insult theirs. If I am insecure in my belief, then that would mean so are you.
DeeJayInphinity
Then it all comes down to who started it, and in my case, I was first insulted by an atheist before I fought back. Therefore, in my case, I am the "monkey".
And if you go by my theory, then we are both insecure, but if you go by your theory, we both aren't. Either way it is an even playing field.
I didn't even give a "theory." :?Then in your case, you have the right to insult me. Just like I have the right to insult the person who attacked me first.
[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Hypocrisy :lol:! Must I bring to your attention that post you wrote saying atheists are more intellegent?
Redneck33
On average, aren't they?
Here in America? No. All the atheists I know are working dead end jobs, while a lot of the theists I know are making the big money and advancing in their field of expertise.
:lol: Hmm... so, what's more reliable, your subjective personal experience, or the numerous studies concluding exactly the opposite of what you claim? Here's one 'here in America': http://trance.nu/v4/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1834301
And here's one throughout the world: http://hypnosis.home.netcom.com/iq_vs_religiosity.htm
By the way... how many atheists do you know?
:lol: So you have proven that you're insecure?Then in your case, you have the right to insult me. Just like I have the right to insult the person who attacked me first.
Redneck33
[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Hypocrisy :lol:! Must I bring to your attention that post you wrote saying atheists are more intellegent?
Redneck33
On average, aren't they?
Here in America? No. All the atheists I know are working dead end jobs, while a lot of the theists I know are making the big money and advancing in their field of expertise.
Your anecdotal evidence is trumped by large-scale studies that show that atheists IQs are on average higher than religious peoples'.
The ONLY studies I have seen have been comparing countries. When you do that, the amount of variables that come into play is mind boggling. I bet if there was a study conducted in ONLY the US or UK, then the results would show equal intelligence.
:lol: Spoke too soon... I direct you to my post above.
[QUOTE="Redneck33"]:lol: So you have proven that you're insecure?Then in your case, you have the right to insult me. Just like I have the right to insult the person who attacked me first.
DeeJayInphinity
Ahh, again we come back to this. If you think that my theory is correct, then yes, I am insecure, but so are you. IF it is incorrect, then neither of us are. Your pick.
[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]:lol: So you have proven that you're insecure?Then in your case, you have the right to insult me. Just like I have the right to insult the person who attacked me first.
Redneck33
Ahh, again we come back to this. If you think that my theory is correct, then yes, I am insecure, but so are you. IF it is incorrect, then neither of us are. Your pick.
Why am I insecure? I've yet to insult you. :?[QUOTE="Redneck33"]Wait, why am I insecure? :?Monkey see, monkey do. Atheist insults my belief, then I insult theirs. If I am insecure in my belief, then that would mean so are you.
DeeJayInphinity
[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Wait, why am I insecure? :?Monkey see, monkey do. Atheist insults my belief, then I insult theirs. If I am insecure in my belief, then that would mean so are you.
quiglythegreat
[QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Hypocrisy :lol:! Must I bring to your attention that post you wrote saying atheists are more intellegent?
Funky_Llama
On average, aren't they?
Here in America? No. All the atheists I know are working dead end jobs, while a lot of the theists I know are making the big money and advancing in their field of expertise.
:lol: Hmm... so, what's more reliable, your subjective personal experience, or the numerous studies concluding exactly the opposite of what you claim? Here's one 'here in America': http://trance.nu/v4/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1834301
And here's one throughout the world: http://hypnosis.home.netcom.com/iq_vs_religiosity.htm
By the way... how many atheists do you know?
Um, no offense, but did you even read it. The survey was taken with small group of people. It was also taken by the AMERICAN YOUTH. I serouisly do not think teens and young adults who haven't even finished college qualify as an "accurate" survey.
Here is a few qoutes from the page-
"I'm not saying that believing in God makes you dumber. My hypothesis is that people with a low intelligence is more easily drawn towards religions"
and also
" But what religion you're believe in is also a factor here, Nyborg thinks.
- If you're highly talented, you have a tendency to choose a religion or worldview that gives you a greater intellectual satisfaction and most likely throw away a religion that requires blind faith, he says."
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Wait, why am I insecure? :?Monkey see, monkey do. Atheist insults my belief, then I insult theirs. If I am insecure in my belief, then that would mean so are you.
DeeJayInphinity
Yes it was me :oops:.
But in all fairness, I didn't mean it literally. It was just an old saying.
[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Wait, why am I insecure? :?Monkey see, monkey do. Atheist insults my belief, then I insult theirs. If I am insecure in my belief, then that would mean so are you.
Redneck33
Yes it was me :oops:.
But in all fairness, I didn't mean it literally. It was just an old saying.
well to hell with you, I am just not a monkey, and that's all I have to say about that.[QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]:lol: So you have proven that you're insecure?Then in your case, you have the right to insult me. Just like I have the right to insult the person who attacked me first.
DeeJayInphinity
Ahh, again we come back to this. If you think that my theory is correct, then yes, I am insecure, but so are you. IF it is incorrect, then neither of us are. Your pick.
Why am I insecure? I've yet to insult you. :?Yes, but at the same time, I didn't insult you either. Somebody insulted my beliefs and I, in return, insulted theirs. You just happened to step in the crossfire, and I guess you thought I was insulting you.
[QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Wait, why am I insecure? :?Monkey see, monkey do. Atheist insults my belief, then I insult theirs. If I am insecure in my belief, then that would mean so are you.
quiglythegreat
Yes it was me :oops:.
But in all fairness, I didn't mean it literally. It was just an old saying.
well to hell with you, I am just not a monkey, and that's all I have to say about that.Do not fret. I was not calling you a monkey. It was simply an old saying. Do not get mad at me, get mad at the person who made that saying up :P.
I'm an atheist, and you called me insecure. That qualifies as an insult, and oddly enough, your own theory calls you insecure.Yes, but at the same time, I didn't insult you either. Somebody insulted my beliefs and I, in return, insulted theirs. You just happened to step in the crossfire, and I guess you thought I was insulting you.
Redneck33
well to hell with you, I am just not a monkey, and that's all I have to say about that.
quiglythegreat
How evolution mean that humans are monkeys? :|
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] well to hell with you, I am just not a monkey, and that's all I have to say about that.
Funky_Llama
How evolution mean that humans are monkeys? :|
uh because it's like you are your parents. and something to do with xmen, I forget[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Hypocrisy :lol:! Must I bring to your attention that post you wrote saying atheists are more intellegent?
Redneck33
On average, aren't they?
Here in America? No. All the atheists I know are working dead end jobs, while a lot of the theists I know are making the big money and advancing in their field of expertise.
:lol: Hmm... so, what's more reliable, your subjective personal experience, or the numerous studies concluding exactly the opposite of what you claim? Here's one 'here in America': http://trance.nu/v4/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1834301
And here's one throughout the world: http://hypnosis.home.netcom.com/iq_vs_religiosity.htm
By the way... how many atheists do you know?
Um, no offense, but did you even read it. The survey was taken with small group of people. It was also taken by the AMERICAN YOUTH. I serouisly do not think teens and young adults who haven't even finished college qualify as an "accurate" survey.
Here is a few qoutes from the page-
"I'm not saying that believing in God makes you dumber. My hypothesis is that people with a low intelligence is more easily drawn towards religions"
and also
" But what religion you're believe in is also a factor here, Nyborg thinks.
- If you're highly talented, you have a tendency to choose a religion or worldview that gives you a greater intellectual satisfaction and most likely throw away a religion that requires blind faith, he says."
Um, it wasn't done by American youth... its results partially contain results of an IQ survey done on American youth... you could at least read it properly.
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] well to hell with you, I am just not a monkey, and that's all I have to say about that.
quiglythegreat
How evolution mean that humans are monkeys? :|
uh because it's like you are your parents. and something to do with xmen, I forget[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] well to hell with you, I am just not a monkey, and that's all I have to say about that.
quiglythegreat
How evolution mean that humans are monkeys? :|
uh because it's like you are your parents. and something to do with xmen, I forgetIt's a central element of evolution that, people aren't identical to their parents. I don't think you could reasonably claim that a person is the same as his parents. Besides which, we didn't evolve from apes, we have a common ancestor. Oh, and also, your objection to evolution is an argument from incredulity, which is a logical fallacy.
[QUOTE="Redneck33"]I'm an atheist, and you called me insecure. That qualifies as an insult, and oddly enough, your own theory calls you insecure.Yes, but at the same time, I didn't insult you either. Somebody insulted my beliefs and I, in return, insulted theirs. You just happened to step in the crossfire, and I guess you thought I was insulting you.
DeeJayInphinity
But I was talking towards a specific atheist. Not you. So I was not aggressive to you personally. Yu got involved though so where does this leave us. If I am insecure in my beliefs, then most of the atheists posting here are also. So again, it is your pick. Either we are all insecure or not.
Again, I ask you why we're insecure.But I was talking towards a specific atheist. Not you. So I was not aggressive to you personally. Yu got involved though so where does this leave us. If I am insecure in my beliefs, then most of the atheists posting here are also. So again, it is your pick. Either we are all insecure or not.
Redneck33
[QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Hypocrisy :lol:! Must I bring to your attention that post you wrote saying atheists are more intellegent?
Funky_Llama
On average, aren't they?
Here in America? No. All the atheists I know are working dead end jobs, while a lot of the theists I know are making the big money and advancing in their field of expertise.
:lol: Hmm... so, what's more reliable, your subjective personal experience, or the numerous studies concluding exactly the opposite of what you claim? Here's one 'here in America': http://trance.nu/v4/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1834301
And here's one throughout the world: http://hypnosis.home.netcom.com/iq_vs_religiosity.htm
By the way... how many atheists do you know?
Um, no offense, but did you even read it. The survey was taken with small group of people. It was also taken by the AMERICAN YOUTH. I serouisly do not think teens and young adults who haven't even finished college qualify as an "accurate" survey.
Here is a few qoutes from the page-
"I'm not saying that believing in God makes you dumber. My hypothesis is that people with a low intelligence is more easily drawn towards religions"
and also
" But what religion you're believe in is also a factor here, Nyborg thinks.
- If you're highly talented, you have a tendency to choose a religion or worldview that gives you a greater intellectual satisfaction and most likely throw away a religion that requires blind faith, he says."
Um, it wasn't done by American youth... its results partially contain results of an IQ survey done on American youth... you could at least read it properly.
You knew what I meant. The test was surveying America's youth. It was a 70 year old man who made the survey. I have read it.
[QUOTE="Redneck33"]Again, I ask you why we're insecure.But I was talking towards a specific atheist. Not you. So I was not aggressive to you personally. Yu got involved though so where does this leave us. If I am insecure in my beliefs, then most of the atheists posting here are also. So again, it is your pick. Either we are all insecure or not.
DeeJayInphinity
Are you an atheist who insults other people's beliefs? If not, then I wasn't talking about you, so therefore I didn't attack you.
[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Again, I ask you why we're insecure.But I was talking towards a specific atheist. Not you. So I was not aggressive to you personally. Yu got involved though so where does this leave us. If I am insecure in my beliefs, then most of the atheists posting here are also. So again, it is your pick. Either we are all insecure or not.
Redneck33
Are you an atheist who insults other people's beliefs? If not, then I wasn't talking about you, so therefore I didn't attack you.
According to LJS, I frequently insult other's beliefs. :([QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Again, I ask you why we're insecure.But I was talking towards a specific atheist. Not you. So I was not aggressive to you personally. Yu got involved though so where does this leave us. If I am insecure in my beliefs, then most of the atheists posting here are also. So again, it is your pick. Either we are all insecure or not.
DeeJayInphinity
Are you an atheist who insults other people's beliefs? If not, then I wasn't talking about you, so therefore I didn't attack you.
According to LJS, I frequently insult other's beliefs. :(I have never seen you insult any beliefs, so your okay in my book :).
According to LJS, I frequently insult other's beliefs. :(DeeJayInphinityI'm sure that he didn't mean to say that, he's a considerate dude.
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Hypocrisy :lol:! Must I bring to your attention that post you wrote saying atheists are more intellegent?
Redneck33
On average, aren't they?
Here in America? No. All the atheists I know are working dead end jobs, while a lot of the theists I know are making the big money and advancing in their field of expertise.
:lol: Hmm... so, what's more reliable, your subjective personal experience, or the numerous studies concluding exactly the opposite of what you claim? Here's one 'here in America': http://trance.nu/v4/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1834301
And here's one throughout the world: http://hypnosis.home.netcom.com/iq_vs_religiosity.htm
By the way... how many atheists do you know?
Um, no offense, but did you even read it. The survey was taken with small group of people. It was also taken by the AMERICAN YOUTH. I serouisly do not think teens and young adults who haven't even finished college qualify as an "accurate" survey.
Here is a few qoutes from the page-
"I'm not saying that believing in God makes you dumber. My hypothesis is that people with a low intelligence is more easily drawn towards religions"
and also
" But what religion you're believe in is also a factor here, Nyborg thinks.
- If you're highly talented, you have a tendency to choose a religion or worldview that gives you a greater intellectual satisfaction and most likely throw away a religion that requires blind faith, he says."
Um, it wasn't done by American youth... its results partially contain results of an IQ survey done on American youth... you could at least read it properly.
You knew what I meant. The test was surveying America's youth. It was a 70 year old man who made the survey. I have read it.
Yeah, so what? Intelligent youth are likely to become intelligent adults.
[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"] According to LJS, I frequently insult other's beliefs. :(quiglythegreatI'm sure that he didn't mean to say that, he's a considerate dude.
[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Hypocrisy :lol:! Must I bring to your attention that post you wrote saying atheists are more intellegent?
Redneck33
On average, aren't they?
Here in America? No. All the atheists I know are working dead end jobs, while a lot of the theists I know are making the big money and advancing in their field of expertise.
lol, guys i think he think that actually means something. if anything, this only proves how intelligent your average theist is.
[QUOTE="Redneck33"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Redneck33"]Hypocrisy :lol:! Must I bring to your attention that post you wrote saying atheists are more intellegent?
mistervengeance
On average, aren't they?
Here in America? No. All the atheists I know are working dead end jobs, while a lot of the theists I know are making the big money and advancing in their field of expertise.
lol, guys i think he think that actually means something. if anything, this only proves how intelligent your average theist is.
Okay, I am having trouble telling which side you are on right now :P.
If you are talking about me, then this is just from my personal experience. Anybody can throw around statistics all they want, I am just going by my own experience which is what I trust more than a random survey conducted on teens by a 70 year old guy.
And also, are you saying atheists are smarter than theists? If you read the article, it didn't say that. All it says was that the unintellegent tend to cling to religion. Your average theist is just as smart as your average atheist.
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