Why exactly is incest still illegal??

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#51 Franklinstein
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[QUOTE="Franklinstein"][QUOTE="Dystopian-X"]

Why exactly is bestiality still illegal?

I mean there's no chance of inbreeding and who are you to tell me I can't show my Husky sum love?

You're not god!

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In this situation there is no way to know if the animal is willing. I'm not now, nor will I ever argue for the justification of rape. (Even against animals). There is also a big difference in the fact that incest occurs regularly in nature, cross genus-specie breeding, not so often.

Well i dont know about that whole not willing thing. Try raping a horse and get a swift kick to the chin, try raping a dog and get a swift castration. Catch where im going here? Even so, this is a bit more complicated, what about male animals on females? If the male animal were erect and humping, can you say its unwilling?

I could say that it's playing on the animals natural instincts to breed, but no I suppose I couldn't say the animal is not willing there. It would be hard to argue that the animal is intelligent enough to make that kind of decision though, which would open up a whole box of horrors for the whole age of consent issue.
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#52 X360PS3AMD05
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So you mean i could have called the cops on those two?? :o
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#53 Thessassin
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[QUOTE="Thessassin"]

[QUOTE="Franklinstein"] In this situation there is no way to know if the animal is willing. I'm not now, nor will I ever argue for the justification of rape. (Even against animals). There is also a big difference in the fact that incest occurs regularly in nature, cross genus-specie breeding, not so often.Franklinstein

Well i dont know about that whole not willing thing. Try raping a horse and get a swift kick to the chin, try raping a dog and get a swift castration. Catch where im going here? Even so, this is a bit more complicated, what about male animals on females? If the male animal were erect and humping, can you say its unwilling?

I could say that it's playing on the animals natural instincts to breed, but no I suppose I couldn't say the animal is not willing there. It would be hard to argue that the animal is intelligent enough to make that kind of decision though, which would open up a whole box of horrors for the whole age of consent issue.

yeah its a puzzle, but who knows what will happen in the future.

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#54 Franklinstein
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[QUOTE="Franklinstein"][QUOTE="Thessassin"] Well i dont know about that whole not willing thing. Try raping a horse and get a swift kick to the chin, try raping a dog and get a swift castration. Catch where im going here? Even so, this is a bit more complicated, what about male animals on females? If the male animal were erect and humping, can you say its unwilling?

Thessassin

I could say that it's playing on the animals natural instincts to breed, but no I suppose I couldn't say the animal is not willing there. It would be hard to argue that the animal is intelligent enough to make that kind of decision though, which would open up a whole box of horrors for the whole age of consent issue.

yeah its a puzzle, but who knows what will happen in the future.

It certainly is, and not one I'm willing to solve tonight, haha. I've got to go to bed, night OT.
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#55 Strider_91
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Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?
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#56 dercoo
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As an only child, even I find the concept just plain :|.

To different types of love just don't mix (family and romantic)

That said I find homosexual marriage just as disturbing and it looks like that is on the path to national legalization.

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#57 Chojuto
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Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?Strider_91
I have a little brother. But I'm not gay and he's way too tiny so I'd definitely never ever ever ever ever ever want to have sex with him.
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#58 KHAndAnime
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Inbreeding only creates defects after 4+ generations.
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#59 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="Dystopian-X"]

Why exactly is bestiality still illegal?

I mean there's no chance of inbreeding and who are you to tell me I can't show my Husky sum love?

You're not god!

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In this situation there is no way to know if the animal is willing...

Sorry but that's some straight up wack logic.
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[QUOTE="Strider_91"]Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?Chojuto
I have a little brother. But I'm not gay and he's way too tiny so I'd definitely never ever ever ever ever ever want to have sex with him.

But the relationship, imagine that with a sister.. can you say from your feelings towards your sibling, you could put that aside and have sex with them?
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#61 Thessassin
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Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?Strider_91
yeah i have a brother. But why does that matter?

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[QUOTE="Strider_91"]Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?Thessassin

yeah i have a brother. But why does that matter?

I'm just wondering, if you're alright with legalising it and striking out incest.. Would you be able to do it with your sibling, if they were a female?
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[QUOTE="Strider_91"]Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?Chojuto
I have a little brother. But I'm not gay and he's way too tiny so I'd definitely never ever ever ever ever ever want to have sex with him.

Where exactly is he tiny?
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#64 Thessassin
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[QUOTE="Thessassin"]

[QUOTE="Strider_91"]Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?Strider_91

yeah i have a brother. But why does that matter?

I'm just wondering, if you're alright with legalising it and striking out incest.. Would you be able to do it with your sibling, if they were a female?

No i wouldn't ever do it with a family member. But i still think it should be legal.

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#65 Strider_91
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[QUOTE="Strider_91"][QUOTE="Thessassin"] yeah i have a brother. But why does that matter?

Thessassin

I'm just wondering, if you're alright with legalising it and striking out incest.. Would you be able to do it with your sibling, if they were a female?

No i wouldn't ever do it with a family member. But i still think it should be legal.

Why wouldn't you?
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#66 Strider_91
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[QUOTE="Chojuto"][QUOTE="Strider_91"]Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?Agent-Zero
I have a little brother. But I'm not gay and he's way too tiny so I'd definitely never ever ever ever ever ever want to have sex with him.

Where exactly is he tiny?

:lol: That actually made me "lol"
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#67 Baconbits2004
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Legalize that, and Polygamy and everyone would be happy.
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Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?Strider_91
Yes. And I'd be lying if I said I was attracted to them to some degree. But I'm adopted, so it would still be legal (I believe) for me to pursue anything beyond that. :P
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#69 Chojuto
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[QUOTE="Chojuto"][QUOTE="Strider_91"]Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?Agent-Zero
I have a little brother. But I'm not gay and he's way too tiny so I'd definitely never ever ever ever ever ever want to have sex with him.

Where exactly is he tiny?

LOL I meant in body stature. He's only 13 years old dude. Not only would I be committing incest but it'd also be pedophilia or whatever too.

and @Strider's question asking whether I would have sex with him if he were a female:

I'm trying to imagine it right now but I really don't think I can properly answer this question unless the situation is real, sorry =P

I think the question would be better asked to someone who has a hot sister.

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#70 Thessassin
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[QUOTE="Thessassin"]

[QUOTE="Strider_91"] I'm just wondering, if you're alright with legalising it and striking out incest.. Would you be able to do it with your sibling, if they were a female?Strider_91

No i wouldn't ever do it with a family member. But i still think it should be legal.

Why wouldn't you?

I just cant bring myself to do it. its messed up.

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[QUOTE="Strider_91"]Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?SeraphimGoddess
Yes. And I'd be lying if I said I was attracted to them to some degree. But I'm adopted, so it would still be legal (I believe) for me to pursue anything beyond that. :P

Wait do you mean "was" or "wasn'T?" Because your post makes more sense in my head if you changed "was" to "wasn't."
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[QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"][QUOTE="Strider_91"]Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?Chojuto
Yes. And I'd be lying if I said I was attracted to them to some degree. But I'm adopted, so it would still be legal (I believe) for me to pursue anything beyond that. :P

Wait do you mean "was" or "wasn'T?" Because your post makes more sense in my head if you changed "was" to "wasn't."

You'll find that nearly everything she says makes sense if you just change the words around to mean the opposite. :o

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#73 Bedizen
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I would hate to be in OP's family :?

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The idea of sleeping with a sibling makes me wanna vomit. But the Disney Channel has an obsession with it.
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#75 Baconbits2004
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The idea of sleeping with a sibling makes me wanna vomit. But the Disney Channel has an obsession with it.MoonMarvel

Nala and Simba?

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#76 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]The idea of sleeping with a sibling makes me wanna vomit. But the Disney Channel has an obsession with it.Baconbits2004

Nala and Simba?

Watch Shake It Up and Wizards of Waverly Place. Some incest overtones in both, and the fans notice. Heck, in Shake It Up a male character thought he was going to marry his sister...and was sad when she didnt want to.
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#77 Suzy_Q_Kazoo
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Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?Strider_91
I'm not rooting for it to be legal, but I do have both a brother and a sister. I could never even imagine being with them that way. I just find it pretty damn gross :?

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#78 daqua_99
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Legalise the act of sex between two consenting adults over the legal age, regardless of their blood relations. However I do find the birth of a child between relatives to be disturbing somewhat ...

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#79 Sagem28
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Your logic is flawed. Just because people are curious about a video doesn't mean they want to have incestual sex.

Chojuto

If my sister was THAT hot (as the actors they have in those videos) then I'd definitely do it with her. But then again I've never had a sister so I don't know what a brother/sister relationship feels like.

The hell is wrong with you people ???

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#80 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="Chojuto"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

Your logic is flawed. Just because people are curious about a video doesn't mean they want to have incestual sex.

If my sister was THAT hot (as the actors they have in those videos) then I'd definitely do it with her. But then again I've never had a sister so I don't know what a brother/sister relationship feels like.

The hell is wrong with you people ???

Welcome to the PC world. Almost anything goes here.
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#81 Strider_91
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[QUOTE="Strider_91"]Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?Suzy_Q_Kazoo

I'm not rooting for it to be legal, but I do have both a brother and a sister. I could never even imagine being with them that way. I just find it pretty damn gross :?

I agree.. after being raised to respect and love your sister or brother in a family manner you can't be of a right state to want to have sexual acts with them.. Anyone with a sibling should know that the emotions between you aren't the same as a girlfriend.. you're backwards to think otherwise
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#82 X360PS3AMD05
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Everyone uses the "brother and sister" angle, but i doubt that ever happens, it's more like cousins or someone with an aunt or uncle......
[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"]

[QUOTE="Strider_91"]Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?Strider_91

I'm not rooting for it to be legal, but I do have both a brother and a sister. I could never even imagine being with them that way. I just find it pretty damn gross :?

I agree.. after being raised to respect and love your sister or brother in a family manner you can't be of a right state to want to have sexual acts with them.. Anyone with a sibling should know that the emotions between you aren't the same as a girlfriend.. you're backwards to think otherwise

Enter hot cousin, in a mini-skirt, at a party, who you didn't really grow up with and never really knew, is it so farfetched to think a guy wouldn't be thinking about it? Everyone tries to spin it like "ewwww no, we played hopscotch together as kids!"
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#83 Strider_91
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Everyone uses the "brother and sister" angle, but i doubt that ever happens, it's more like cousins or someone with an aunt or uncle......X360PS3AMD05
People are trying to avoid the use of pedophilia in it as well as incest
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[QUOTE="Chojuto"] Wait do you mean "was" or "wasn'T?" Because your post makes more sense in my head if you changed "was" to "wasn't."

Ah, yes, I meant "wasn't," sorry for the mistake.

You'll find that nearly everything she says makes sense if you just change the words around to mean the opposite. :o

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Also Pedophilia means child, if a girl was say 16 or 17, that isn't pedophilia. You try to look at it on paper, but in the real world i'm not surprised if it happens. I saw a show on some channel once "The secret lives of women" and it told the story of cousins who "fell in love"
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It's taboo for most people; so they don't usually discuss it. As gross as it may be, I don't see incestual relationships as a problem if both parties are consenting adults. I don't think it's fair to compare incest to necrophilia or beastiality because dead people and animals cannot give consent.

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#87 DJ-Lafleur
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inbreeding, it's gross, weird, etc.

can't say I'm distraught over it being illegalized.

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#88 Treflis
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Because Incest doesn't needlessly mean sexual relations between brother and sister, it could also mean father and daughter. It does revolve around close relatives. That said you are allowed in many places to marry a cousin or a more distant relative.
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It should be legal. The "You might get a deformed baby!" line of reasoning is terrible.

To my knowledge the increase in possible birth defects due to a 1st generation of in breeding isn't all htat high. I have heard that an old woman actually has a higher chance of birth defects, though I do not believe she should be barred from romantic relationships.

I just find it a silly line of reasoning. If we're outlawing incest for that reason then people with genetic disorders or people over X age should be barred from having sex, period.

Also incestous couples don't HAVE to have children. Theres no requirement to have kids in a relationship.

I personally see nothing wrong with incest and find it's illegality to be silly. What two consenting adults who love each other do=none of my buisness.

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[QUOTE="Thessassin"]

[QUOTE="Strider_91"]Do the people saying it should be legal have siblings?Strider_91

yeah i have a brother. But why does that matter?

I'm just wondering, if you're alright with legalising it and striking out incest.. Would you be able to do it with your sibling, if they were a female?

Legally, yes, I would be if it was legal.

If you're asking would I? No. I don't like my sister. This seems like a faulty line of logic where in one assumes that because someone supports the repeal of a law, that means they wish to partake in whatever the activity is.

I'm also for the repeal of DADT but I can assure you I am not a gay man in the military.

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#91 Pixel-Pirate
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Why exactly is bestiality still illegal?

I mean there's no chance of inbreeding and who are you to tell me I can't show my Husky sum love?

You're not god!

Dystopian-X

Aside from the fact animals cannot consent and they have different psychological reactions to such things....

I think beastiality IS legal in some states.

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People like amd05 are way too defensive about the subject. Go to Jerry Springer weirdo.

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#93 xTheExploited
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I think it's gross but as long as its two adults and they aren't going to reproduce then I guess it should be legal.
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#94 exiledsnake
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Because it would destroy the family. Especially when LOVE is such a fleeting feeling anyway nowadays. Also because inbreeding just increases the chances of defects exponentially in babies.
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Cause we don't want no redheads round 'ere.

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#96 superdum2
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im fine with incest but i wouldnt do it and both family members would have to give legal consent
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#97 jpph
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i don't believe this thread. of course it shouldn't be legal!

as for the porn site thing, are you stupid tc? it's not real incest, similar how the real rape or prostitution in many porn videos also isn't real.

there's just a buzz in watching something that is morally or legally wrong.

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#98 Pixel-Pirate
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i don't believe this thread. of course it shouldn't be legal!

jpph

Why? I don't get why the government can dictate which two consenting adults can form a loving relationship.

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[QUOTE="Dystopian-X"]

Why exactly is bestiality still illegal?

I mean there's no chance of inbreeding and who are you to tell me I can't show my Husky sum love?

You're not god!

Pixel-Pirate

Aside from the fact animals cannot consent and they have different psychological reactions to such things....

I think beastiality IS legal in some states.

West Virginia. Wild and wonderful.
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#100 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Franklinstein"][QUOTE="wslacker2"]Sex with your relatives should never be legal.wslacker2

It doesn't hurt anyone, as long as all parties are coherently thinking and willing. It's their life, don't butt into it.

Tell that to millions of kids who have been raped by a relative, dude. Consential or not, having sex with a relative does nothing to bring happy kids into this world.

That would be pedophilia dude.