Why Nice Guys Finish Last

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The key is be yourself from the start. And workout issues before they become major. UnrealSin_X

No, that's pretty much set up for fail. Girls never want you, they always want the other guy. The solution is to hide yourself or become a facade to them. Then gently reveal yourself as time goes on.

But I'm sure we could eliminate a crapload, like:

Relatives (Mom, sister, aunt, etc.)
Any authority figures you may have met in your life
Complete strangers
Famous people
Lifelong friends (they're bound to know you and be less interested)
Etc.

There's a much smaller pool to choose from than you think.

[QUOTE="friutpunch"]

thats actually really true, I had 7 girlfriends, i was a cocky jerk to my first 6, not caring cheating on some, once i cheated on a girl with her good friend, and i decided to brake up with them after a month and a half, if i didnt it wouild have probably lasted a year. but then i decided to change with my next girlfriend.

I was the nicest dude in the world to my X giving her stuff and making her feel good all the time, and never ever thinking about cheating on her while i really got nothing in return, and a month later she broke up with me.......right after the giants(my home team) won the superbowl. I admit i got that achey feeling in my heart and really couldnt forget about her for at least 2 months.

I think if you act nice dont just act nice, Be a combination of Exciting, Nice and Confident. But What am i saying! im only 15, i still have a greta life in front of me :D. But all in all i give props to teh TC for posting this.

Jandurin

That's a lie..

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The key is be yourself from the start. And workout issues before they become major. Video_Game_King

No, that's pretty much set up for fail. Girls never want you, they always want the other guy. The solution is to hide yourself or become a facade to them. Then gently reveal yourself as time goes on.

But I'm sure we could eliminate a crapload, like:

Relatives (Mom, sister, aunt, etc.)
Any authority figures you may have met in your life
Complete strangers
Famous people
Lifelong friends (they're bound to know you and be less interested)
Etc.

There's a much smaller pool to choose from than you think.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The key is be yourself from the start. And workout issues before they become major. UnrealSin_X

No, that's pretty much set up for fail. Girls never want you, they always want the other guy. The solution is to hide yourself or become a facade to them. Then gently reveal yourself as time goes on.

But I'm sure we could eliminate a crapload, like:

Relatives (Mom, sister, aunt, etc.)
Any authority figures you may have met in your life
Complete strangers
Famous people
Lifelong friends (they're bound to know you and be less interested)
Etc.

There's a much smaller pool to choose from than you think.

Yea, its fairly hard, especially if you're lacking in charisma. As I've said, they always go for the other guy. Case in point: Vincent Valentine. He loved Lucrecia, but she went for Hojo. Oh, Vincent was a nice guy and saw that Hojo was insane, "but he was a scientist". Women don't go for you, they go for the other guy.

[QUOTE="USSJAndrew"]OMG, this definatly just helped me out alot in the situation I'm currently in.clyde46

strangely I'm in the same boat.

Trust me, getting a girl you love to fall for you is not that hard.

All you have to do is sincerely try every possible way depending on how much you love her and besides if you don't end up with her it's not the end of the world. You will always find another.

Yea, its fairly hard, especially if you're lacking in charisma. As I've said, they always go for the other guy. Case in point: Vincent Valentine. He loved Lucrecia, but she went for Hojo. Oh, Vincent was a nice guy and saw that Hojo was insane, "but he was a scientist". Women don't go for you, they go for the other guy.

Not all women are the same thoughUnrealSin_X

Though I'm fairly sure that you need some type of charisma to date ANY woman.

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]Not all women are the same thoughVideo_Game_King

Though I'm fairly sure that you need some type of charisma to date ANY woman.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]Not all women are the same thoughUnrealSin_X

Though I'm fairly sure that you need some type of charisma to date ANY woman.

Not everyone has charisma, and I'm one of those who lacks in that area.

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]Not all women are the same thoughVideo_Game_King

Though I'm fairly sure that you need some type of charisma to date ANY woman.

Not everyone has charisma, and I'm one of those who lacks in that area.

That explains why you are so pessimistic.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]Not all women are the same thoughBlackAlpha666

Though I'm fairly sure that you need some type of charisma to date ANY woman.

Not everyone has charisma, and I'm one of those who lacks in that area.

That explains why you are so pessimistic.

No, there are other reasons. But this will inevitably lead to a digression from the main discussion if allowed to go the course. So, does anybody else wish to respond with something that will not result in the fate I have described previously?

Humans actually believe in this saying. " good guys finish last" haha. It had to be an evil genius to come up with that one

It's like humans are destroyng themselves with this negative thinking, the negative nonsense they choose to believe in is what's destroying their world, just look at everything they choose to uphold.

[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]Not all women are the same thoughVideo_Game_King

Though I'm fairly sure that you need some type of charisma to date ANY woman.

Not everyone has charisma, and I'm one of those who lacks in that area.

That explains why you are so pessimistic.

No, there are other reasons. But this will inevitably lead to a digression from the main discussion if allowed to go the course. So, does anybody else wish to respond with something that will not result in the fate I have described previously?

reading this article + watching School Days = not a good mix :(

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]Not all women are the same thoughUnrealSin_X

Though I'm fairly sure that you need some type of charisma to date ANY woman.

Not everyone has charisma, and I'm one of those who lacks in that area.

That explains why you are so pessimistic.

No, there are other reasons. But this will inevitably lead to a digression from the main discussion if allowed to go the course. So, does anybody else wish to respond with something that will not result in the fate I have described previously?

I am not Hindu nor am I a redneck.

That article is kind of paradoxical...So if I'm nice to a woman, and dont treat her like crap, then I appear weak and desperate? But if I stand up for what I want and I act like a normal guy would, not too nice, standing up for what I want and being strong in a relationship, and 'exciting' and all of that crap, then I'm an a**hole to the woman, right?

So its impossible to please a woman then isnt it? Everything has to be absolutely perfect, I have to appear strong and not desperate but also be nice? Even if I am, the woman wont see it like that.

Throughout that whole article I think the woman writing it was saying that there is absolutely no way to make a woman truly want you, isnt it. If I'm excited I'm a jerk, if I'm nice I'm a weak desperate fool.

That article is kind of paradoxical...So if I'm nice to a woman, and dont treat her like crap, then I appear weak and desperate? But if I stand up for what I want and I act like a normal guy would, not too nice, standing up for what I want and being strong in a relationship, and 'exciting' and all of that crap, then I'm an a**hole to the woman, right?

So its impossible to please a woman then isnt it? Everything has to be absolutely perfect, I have to appear strong and not desperate but also be nice? Even if I am, the woman wont see it like that.

Throughout that whole article I think the woman writing it was saying that there is absolutely no way to make a woman truly want you, isnt it. If I'm excited I'm a jerk, if I'm nice I'm a weak desperate fool.

Myrkan

That's exactly it! Women don't want you, they always want the other guy.

[QUOTE="Myrkan"]

That article is kind of paradoxical...So if I'm nice to a woman, and dont treat her like crap, then I appear weak and desperate? But if I stand up for what I want and I act like a normal guy would, not too nice, standing up for what I want and being strong in a relationship, and 'exciting' and all of that crap, then I'm an a**hole to the woman, right?

So its impossible to please a woman then isnt it? Everything has to be absolutely perfect, I have to appear strong and not desperate but also be nice? Even if I am, the woman wont see it like that.

Throughout that whole article I think the woman writing it was saying that there is absolutely no way to make a woman truly want you, isnt it. If I'm excited I'm a jerk, if I'm nice I'm a weak desperate fool.

Video_Game_King

That's exactly it! Women don't want you, they always want the other guy.

ROFL Are you serious? :lol:

[QUOTE="Myrkan"]

That article is kind of paradoxical...So if I'm nice to a woman, and dont treat her like crap, then I appear weak and desperate? But if I stand up for what I want and I act like a normal guy would, not too nice, standing up for what I want and being strong in a relationship, and 'exciting' and all of that crap, then I'm an a**hole to the woman, right?

So its impossible to please a woman then isnt it? Everything has to be absolutely perfect, I have to appear strong and not desperate but also be nice? Even if I am, the woman wont see it like that.

Throughout that whole article I think the woman writing it was saying that there is absolutely no way to make a woman truly want you, isnt it. If I'm excited I'm a jerk, if I'm nice I'm a weak desperate fool.

Video_Game_King

That's exactly it! Women don't want you, they always want the other guy.

I think its just their way of saying it to you. Maybe they just cant be honest and say "Sorry, not interested.", and they have to butter you up with the whole 'you a nice guy but I only like you as a friend thing', and if they dont like that nice part of you, and like the sort of 'mean' part of you, but they still arent interested, they have to tell you your an A-hole and all of that just to sort of cover up their lust for the other guy, if you know what I mean.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="Myrkan"]

That article is kind of paradoxical...So if I'm nice to a woman, and dont treat her like crap, then I appear weak and desperate? But if I stand up for what I want and I act like a normal guy would, not too nice, standing up for what I want and being strong in a relationship, and 'exciting' and all of that crap, then I'm an a**hole to the woman, right?

So its impossible to please a woman then isnt it? Everything has to be absolutely perfect, I have to appear strong and not desperate but also be nice? Even if I am, the woman wont see it like that.

Throughout that whole article I think the woman writing it was saying that there is absolutely no way to make a woman truly want you, isnt it. If I'm excited I'm a jerk, if I'm nice I'm a weak desperate fool.

BlackAlpha666

That's exactly it! Women don't want you, they always want the other guy.

ROFL Are you serious? :lol:

Have you read my posts in this thread?

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="Myrkan"]

That article is kind of paradoxical...So if I'm nice to a woman, and dont treat her like crap, then I appear weak and desperate? But if I stand up for what I want and I act like a normal guy would, not too nice, standing up for what I want and being strong in a relationship, and 'exciting' and all of that crap, then I'm an a**hole to the woman, right?

So its impossible to please a woman then isnt it? Everything has to be absolutely perfect, I have to appear strong and not desperate but also be nice? Even if I am, the woman wont see it like that.

Throughout that whole article I think the woman writing it was saying that there is absolutely no way to make a woman truly want you, isnt it. If I'm excited I'm a jerk, if I'm nice I'm a weak desperate fool.

Myrkan

That's exactly it! Women don't want you, they always want the other guy.

I think its just their way of saying it to you. Maybe they just cant be honest and say "Sorry, not interested.", and they have to butter you up with the whole 'you a nice guy but I only like you as a friend thing', and if they dont like that nice part of you, and like the sort of 'mean' part of you, but they still arent interested, they have to tell you your an A-hole and all of that just to sort of cover up their lust for the other guy, if you know what I mean.

So you're saying that they want the other guy, but never wish to admit it?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The key is be yourself from the start. And workout issues before they become major. Video_Game_King

No, that's pretty much set up for fail. Girls never want you, they always want the other guy. The solution is to hide yourself or become a facade to them. Then gently reveal yourself as time goes on.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The key is be yourself from the start. And workout issues before they become major. LJS9502_basic

No, that's pretty much set up for fail. Girls never want you, they always want the other guy. The solution is to hide yourself or become a facade to them. Then gently reveal yourself as time goes on.

Perhaps I should've said gradually.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The key is be yourself from the start. And workout issues before they become major. Video_Game_King

No, that's pretty much set up for fail. Girls never want you, they always want the other guy. The solution is to hide yourself or become a facade to them. Then gently reveal yourself as time goes on.

Perhaps I should've said gradually.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The key is be yourself from the start. And workout issues before they become major. LJS9502_basic

No, that's pretty much set up for fail. Girls never want you, they always want the other guy. The solution is to hide yourself or become a facade to them. Then gently reveal yourself as time goes on.

Perhaps I should've said gradually.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The key is be yourself from the start. And workout issues before they become major. LJS9502_basic

No, that's pretty much set up for fail. Girls never want you, they always want the other guy. The solution is to hide yourself or become a facade to them. Then gently reveal yourself as time goes on.

Perhaps I should've said gradually.

Yea, they're fairly hard to figure out. Hell, most men don't know what women find attractive from a visual standpoint. And people inevitably change within a relationship and they expect that. Why the hell would she suspect anything strange when the changes are gradual enough?

of course, if there's no change she'll dump you because its getting boring and samey.
Mr_sprinkles

Yea, they're fairly hard to figure out. Hell, most men don't know what women find attractive from a visual standpoint. And people inevitably change within a relationship and they expect that. Why the hell would she suspect anything strange when the changes are gradual enough?

Video_Game_King

Actually, most relationships that end,..end because they other party doesn't know the partner anymore...they changed...so there you go. NOT positive reinforcement for a relationship.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"] of course, if there's no change she'll dump you because its getting boring and samey.
LJS9502_basic

No, she'll probably try to change you into the person she wants. If she thinks she can't, then she'll find somebody else easier to mold.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

Yea, they're fairly hard to figure out. Hell, most men don't know what women find attractive from a visual standpoint. And people inevitably change within a relationship and they expect that. Why the hell would she suspect anything strange when the changes are gradual enough?

LJS9502_basic

Actually, most relationships that end,..end because they other party doesn't know the partner anymore...they changed...so there you go. NOT positive reinforcement for a relationship.

That's a load of crap. I have both, and my comments in this thread alone prove that wrong.

No, she'll probably try to change you into the person she wants. If she thinks she can't, then she'll find somebody else easier to mold.

Video_Game_King

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

Yea, they're fairly hard to figure out. Hell, most men don't know what women find attractive from a visual standpoint. And people inevitably change within a relationship and they expect that. Why the hell would she suspect anything strange when the changes are gradual enough?

Video_Game_King

Actually, most relationships that end,..end because they other party doesn't know the partner anymore...they changed...so there you go. NOT positive reinforcement for a relationship.

That's a load of crap. I have both, and my comments in this thread alone prove that wrong.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

Yea, they're fairly hard to figure out. Hell, most men don't know what women find attractive from a visual standpoint. And people inevitably change within a relationship and they expect that. Why the hell would she suspect anything strange when the changes are gradual enough?

Jandurin

Actually, most relationships that end,..end because they other party doesn't know the partner anymore...they changed...so there you go. NOT positive reinforcement for a relationship.

That's a load of crap. I have both, and my comments in this thread alone prove that wrong.

2 out of 3 should be enough, right? And to the other post, compromise ultimately involves change.

[No, she'll probably try to change you into the person she wants. If she thinks she can't, then she'll find somebody else easier to mold.

Video_Game_King

That's a load of crap. I have both, and my comments in this thread alone prove that wrong.

Video_Game_King

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[No, she'll probably try to change you into the person she wants. If she thinks she can't, then she'll find somebody else easier to mold.

LJS9502_basic

I didn't say anything about paying attention to her or a lack thereof. If a girl doesn't like you in a relationship, she'll change you to that which she prefers.

2 out of 3 should be enough, right? And to the other post, compromise ultimately involves change.

Video_Game_King

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

That's a load of crap. I have both, and my comments in this thread alone prove that wrong.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

That's a load of crap. I have both, and my comments in this thread alone prove that wrong.

LJS9502_basic

Not an issue with girls, but rather people in general. And girls aren't attracted to that. If they were, I'd be a fairly famous pimp or something. (Not the best way to put it, but you know what I mean.)

I didn't say anything about paying attention to her or a lack thereof. If a girl doesn't like you in a relationship, she'll change you to that which she prefers.

Video_Game_King

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

That's a load of crap. I have both, and my comments in this thread alone prove that wrong.

Mr_sprinkles

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

That's a load of crap. I have both, and my comments in this thread alone prove that wrong.

Video_Game_King

Not an issue with girls, but rather people in general. And girls aren't attracted to that. If they were, I'd be a fairly famous pimp or something. (Not the best way to put it, but you know what I mean.)

And they pick up on that and seek the company of others.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

2 out of 3 should be enough, right? And to the other post, compromise ultimately involves change.

LJS9502_basic

Girls would theoretically like my if I were smart enough to back up those views, and I am. And I've actually tried asking women out, and that's one of the few reasons my self esteem is down. So its some sort of catch-22 that I can't put into words or something. And change is a HUGE IDEA behind compromise. What would compromise be without it?

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

2 out of 3 should be enough, right? And to the other post, compromise ultimately involves change.

LJS9502_basic

**Looking at your post count** **Finding Irony on these prejudices** **No needs for further explanations**

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

2 out of 3 should be enough, right? And to the other post, compromise ultimately involves change.

Redgarl

**Looking at your post count** **Finding Irony on these prejudices** **No needs for further explanations**

Yet I'm married....and you are?