Why Nice Guys Finish Last

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

That's a load of crap. I have both, and my comments in this thread alone prove that wrong.

LJS9502_basic

Not an issue with girls, but rather people in general. And girls aren't attracted to that. If they were, I'd be a fairly famous pimp or something. (Not the best way to put it, but you know what I mean.)

And they pick up on that and seek the company of others.

I've tried seeking friends and such, but I've only found two: those who leave you, and those who betray you.

Girls would theoretically like my if I were smart enough to back up those views, and I am. And I've actually tried asking women out, and that's one of the few reasons my self esteem is down. So its some sort of catch-22 that I can't put into words or something. And change is a HUGE IDEA behind compromise. What would compromise be without it?

Video_Game_King

I've tried seeking friends and such, but I've only found two: those who leave you, and those who betray you.

Video_Game_King

Then you haven't found friends yet. Not everyone betrays or leaves. There are some good people around.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

I've tried seeking friends and such, but I've only found two: those who leave you, and those who betray you.

LJS9502_basic

Then you haven't found friends yet. Not everyone betrays or leaves. There are some good people around.

Not from my experiences. Friends either end up leaving you or betraying you horribly. I have not met a friend who does not fall into one of those categories.

Not from my experiences. Friends either end up leaving you or betraying you horribly. I have not met a friend who does not fall into one of those categories.

Video_Game_King

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

Not from my experiences. Friends either end up leaving you or betraying you horribly. I have not met a friend who does not fall into one of those categories.

LJS9502_basic

The selection pool is essentially "people I've met". Therefore, I've decided to stay away from that pool altogether.

The selection pool is essentially "people I've met". Therefore, I've decided to stay away from that pool altogether.

Video_Game_King

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

The selection pool is essentially "people I've met". Therefore, I've decided to stay away from that pool altogether.

LJS9502_basic

No, because to be optimistic just sets one up for a horrible, horrible fall.

No, because to be optimistic just sets one up for a horrible, horrible fall.

Video_Game_King

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

That's a load of crap. I have both, and my comments in this thread alone prove that wrong.

Video_Game_King

Not an issue with girls, but rather people in general. And girls aren't attracted to that. If they were, I'd be a fairly famous pimp or something. (Not the best way to put it, but you know what I mean.)

And they pick up on that and seek the company of others.

I've tried seeking friends and such, but I've only found two: those who leave you, and those who betray you.

I suggest you listen to what LJS said because your pessimistic doomsaying won't attract anybody. It beats me why you persist on sticking with it. Maybe you need to get some help because it sounds to me like you hate people in general.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

No, because to be optimistic just sets one up for a horrible, horrible fall.

LJS9502_basic

The longer you wait, the bigger the fall.

I suggest you listen to what LJS said because your pessimistic doomsaying won't attract anybody. It beats me why you persist on sticking with it. Maybe you need to get some help because it sounds to me like you hate people in general.

BlackAlpha666

I stick with it because optimism, as I said before, leads to suffering. And yes, I'm a misanthrope, what of it?

[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]

I suggest you listen to what LJS said because your pessimistic doomsaying won't attract anybody. It beats me why you persist on sticking with it. Maybe you need to get some help because it sounds to me like you hate people in general.

Video_Game_King

I stick with it because optimism, as I said before, leads to suffering. And yes, I'm a misanthrope, what of it?

With that mindset you are going to kill yourself one day and that would be a waste because you can make yourself feel a whole lot better by therapy and medication. Replacing one bad feeling with another bad one isn't really what you want to do. I'm sure you already know that, so I'll leave it at that. If you want change in your life and be happy, you'll have to be willing yourself to make it happen.

[QUOTE="Myrkan"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="Myrkan"]

That article is kind of paradoxical...So if I'm nice to a woman, and dont treat her like crap, then I appear weak and desperate? But if I stand up for what I want and I act like a normal guy would, not too nice, standing up for what I want and being strong in a relationship, and 'exciting' and all of that crap, then I'm an a**hole to the woman, right?

So its impossible to please a woman then isnt it? Everything has to be absolutely perfect, I have to appear strong and not desperate but also be nice? Even if I am, the woman wont see it like that.

Throughout that whole article I think the woman writing it was saying that there is absolutely no way to make a woman truly want you, isnt it. If I'm excited I'm a jerk, if I'm nice I'm a weak desperate fool.

Video_Game_King

That's exactly it! Women don't want you, they always want the other guy.

I think its just their way of saying it to you. Maybe they just cant be honest and say "Sorry, not interested.", and they have to butter you up with the whole 'you a nice guy but I only like you as a friend thing', and if they dont like that nice part of you, and like the sort of 'mean' part of you, but they still arent interested, they have to tell you your an A-hole and all of that just to sort of cover up their lust for the other guy, if you know what I mean.

So you're saying that they want the other guy, but never wish to admit it?

Yeah, pretty much.