Why WOULDNT anyone vote for Ron Paul?

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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"] I know we dont live in a colorblind society but making the goverment and its laws colorblind will result in a less racist society.Vuurk

Sound logic.

lol

By legalizing murder people will murder less.

lol

People keep saying that color blind people should want a socioty without racial laws, but on the same not, non murdering people want laws against murder, not because they want them there but because they know it'll act as a buffer and reduce it in number.

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I love how the only dirt on Ron Paul is that he's a racist, and its been shot down, debunked, proven false numerous times. Keep trying haters. I'm rootin for ya, I really am. ;)

I also like how the supporters here actually provide facts and links to their sources, and the haters make baseless assumptions to counter them, with nothing to back it up.

RandPaul

although the racist question does have merit. The main reason I am not intrested in him is because I dont agree with flat tax's and I think shutting down schools and letting my water main pipes break is just stupid. I would rather they shut down the mililtary COMPLETELY before doing that.

Thats EXACTLY what I'm talking about...

People have no idea why they don't like RP in the first place. They hear misinformation from the mainstream media, twist the fear into it and people aren't smart enough to know its all BS. And the racist question lost ALL merit, when it was completely debunked.

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although the racist question does have merit. The main reason I am not intrested in him is because I dont agree with flat tax's and I think shutting down schools and letting my water main pipes break is just stupid. I would rather they shut down the mililtary COMPLETELY before doing that.

KamuiFei

Thats EXACTLY what I'm talking about...

People have no idea why they don't like RP in the first place. They hear misinformation from the mainstream media, twist the fear into it and people aren't smart enough to know its all BS. And the racist question lost ALL merit, when it was completely debunked.

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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"] I know we dont live in a colorblind society but making the goverment and its laws colorblind will result in a less racist society.Vuurk

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[QUOTE="RandPaul"]How would he shut down schools and let water pipes break? All of that is state and locally run.SF_KiLLaMaN

Thats EXACTLY what I'm talking about...

People have no idea why they don't like RP in the first place. They hear misinformation from the mainstream media, twist the fear into it and people aren't smart enough to know its all BS. And the racist question lost ALL merit, when it was completely debunked.

Adopting an economic system that will reduce the inflation of the dollar isn't crazy. And I find printing money we don't have to give to military dictators overseas is alot crazier.

Why wouldn't I vote for Ron Paul? Because I enjoying watching self-righteous people get their panties in a knot.

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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] I think his crazy economic and foreign policy is a bigger negative than those newsletters. SEANMCAD

Adopting an economic system that will reduce the inflation of the dollar isn't crazy. And I find printing money we don't have to give to military dictators overseas is alot crazier.

So there are a lot of people who say that 1/2 of the entire budget is military. I do know that there are others who say that number is way off and the debates start. However, if it really is 1/2 of the entire budget isnt the problem as well as the solution rather obvious?

Pertaining to what exactly? Not sure what you mean by "1/2 the entire budget". I will say that 51% of all federal income tax to applied to the military. But also the Federal Reserve funds the military and the industral complex, all companies which are privately owned and backed by our government.

The solution is to remove the federal reserve, which is a privately owned big corporation. They have free reign to print money and use it how they see fit, and thats how we got into such a mess.

Who do you think I am? IVuurk

How are you going to tell me I didn't read it? If you want to know why I didn't post in that thread, it's because of how you're behaving now. You freak out when someone says something that you disagree with, as if you can't even listen to - let alone consider - opposing views, as if doing so would equate to apostasy. A "discussion" to you means calling anyone and everyone who disagrees with you a troll and/or sheep, constant condescension (I can't even count how many times you've arrogantly asked someone if they've ever taken an economics class), and spamming irrelevant youtube videos. You have no interest in critical thinking or having a reasonable discussion - the only thing you care about is evangelizing the gospel of your secular religion.

[QUOTE="Vuurk"] Who do you think I am? I-Sun_Tzu-

How are you going to tell me I didn't read it? If you want to know why I didn't post in that thread, it's because of how you're behaving now. You freak out when someone says something that you disagree with, as if you can't even listen to - let alone consider - opposing views, as if doing so would equate to apostasy. A "discussion" to you means calling anyone and everyone who disagrees with you a trolls, constant condescension (I can't even count how many times you've arrogantly asked someone if they've ever taken an economics class), and spamming irrelevant youtube videos. You have no interest in critical thinking or having a reasonable discussion - the only thing you care about is evangelizing the gospel of your secular religion.

[QUOTE="Vuurk"] Who do you think I am? I-Sun_Tzu-

How are you going to tell me I didn't read it? If you want to know why I didn't post in that thread, it's because of how you're behaving now. You freak out when someone says something that you disagree with, as if you can't even listen to - let alone consider - opposing views, as if doing so would equate to apostasy. A "discussion" to you means calling anyone and everyone who disagrees with you a troll and/or sheep, constant condescension (I can't even count how many times you've arrogantly asked someone if they've ever taken an economics class), and spamming irrelevant youtube videos. You have no interest in critical thinking or having a reasonable discussion - the only thing you care about is evangelizing the gospel of your secular religion.

That was beautiful sir!

*high fives you*

[QUOTE="Vuurk"] Who do you think I am? I-Sun_Tzu-

How are you going to tell me I didn't read it? If you want to know why I didn't post in that thread, it's because of how you're behaving now. You freak out when someone says something that you disagree with, as if you can't even listen to - let alone consider - opposing views, as if doing so would equate to apostasy. A "discussion" to you means calling anyone and everyone who disagrees with you a troll and/or sheep, constant condescension (I can't even count how many times you've arrogantly asked someone if they've ever taken an economics class), and spamming irrelevant youtube videos. You have no interest in critical thinking or having a reasonable discussion - the only thing you care about is evangelizing the gospel of your secular religion.

And yet I lost count on how many times you arrogantly belittle people you disagree with, and I have yet to see you source any info you feel that are facts. It's fine to have opinions, but don't act like you're superior just because you think you're right all the time.

Practice what you preach dude. Just sayin.

Apparently he doesn't think the bill of rights (you know, part of that constitution he loves so much) applies to states. Here is a bill that he introduced that would states to violate the first and fourth amendments. (and it shows that he's a homophobe) It's worth noting this was the second time he introduced this bill.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:HR00958:@@@D&summ2=m&

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[QUOTE="Vuurk"] Who do you think I am? IKamuiFei

How are you going to tell me I didn't read it? If you want to know why I didn't post in that thread, it's because of how you're behaving now. You freak out when someone says something that you disagree with, as if you can't even listen to - let alone consider - opposing views, as if doing so would equate to apostasy. A "discussion" to you means calling anyone and everyone who disagrees with you a troll and/or sheep, constant condescension (I can't even count how many times you've arrogantly asked someone if they've ever taken an economics class), and spamming irrelevant youtube videos. You have no interest in critical thinking or having a reasonable discussion - the only thing you care about is evangelizing the gospel of your secular religion.

And yet I lost count on how many times you arrogantly belittle people you disagree with, and I have yet to see you source any info you feel that are facts. It's fine to have opinions, but don't act like you're superior just because you think you're right all the time.

Practice what you preach dude. Just sayin.

IMO, sun is mean to Vuurk.

IMO, sun is mean to Vuurk.

coolbeans90

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IMO, sun is mean to Vuurk.

-Sun_Tzu-

And you think you're individual vote will have any effect on the outcome of the election? It won't, so why sell out? =[Vuurk

I'm not selling out. I'm a republican first. libertarian-leaning conservative second.

Romney has the best shot at winning, so he's going to get my vote. It's as simple as that.

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[QUOTE="Vuurk"] Who do you think I am? IKamuiFei

How are you going to tell me I didn't read it? If you want to know why I didn't post in that thread, it's because of how you're behaving now. You freak out when someone says something that you disagree with, as if you can't even listen to - let alone consider - opposing views, as if doing so would equate to apostasy. A "discussion" to you means calling anyone and everyone who disagrees with you a troll and/or sheep, constant condescension (I can't even count how many times you've arrogantly asked someone if they've ever taken an economics class), and spamming irrelevant youtube videos. You have no interest in critical thinking or having a reasonable discussion - the only thing you care about is evangelizing the gospel of your secular religion.

And yet I lost count on how many times you arrogantly belittle people you disagree with, and I have yet to see you source any info you feel that are facts. It's fine to have opinions, but don't act like you're superior just because you think you're right all the time.

Practice what you preach dude. Just sayin.

I've gcome to OT later rather than sooner, but apart from whatever shennanigans have gone on previously, Vuurk is acting like a royal a** in theis thread. I've tried to engage in a meaningful discussion about Ron Paul, genuinely curious at some points, but there a limit to being insulted. If Vuurk would calm down and speak rationally, he might convince people that Ron Paul is the real deal. Insulting people would get anyone anywhere.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Well since you asked I think you are a flailing moron.

How are you going to tell me I didn't read it? If you want to know why I didn't post in that thread, it's because of how you're behaving now. You freak out when someone says something that you disagree with, as if you can't even listen to - let alone consider - opposing views, as if doing so would equate to apostasy. A "discussion" to you means calling anyone and everyone who disagrees with you a troll and/or sheep, constant condescension (I can't even count how many times you've arrogantly asked someone if they've ever taken an economics class), and spamming irrelevant youtube videos. You have no interest in critical thinking or having a reasonable discussion - the only thing you care about is evangelizing the gospel of your secular religion.

jimkabrhel

And yet I lost count on how many times you arrogantly belittle people you disagree with, and I have yet to see you source any info you feel that are facts. It's fine to have opinions, but don't act like you're superior just because you think you're right all the time.

Practice what you preach dude. Just sayin.

I've gcome to OT later rather than sooner, but apart from whatever shennanigans have gone on previously, Vuurk is acting like a royal a** in theis thread. I've tried to engage in a meaningful discussion about Ron Paul, genuinely curious at some points, but there a limit to being insulted. If Vuurk would calm down and speak rationally, he might convince people that Ron Paul is the real deal. Insulting people would get anyone anywhere.

Vuurk speaking rationally, lol.:lol:

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[QUOTE="KamuiFei"]

Adopting an economic system that will reduce the inflation of the dollar isn't crazy. And I find printing money we don't have to give to military dictators overseas is alot crazier.

Vuurk

So there are a lot of people who say that 1/2 of the entire budget is military. I do know that there are others who say that number is way off and the debates start. However, if it really is 1/2 of the entire budget isnt the problem as well as the solution rather obvious?

Military spending is not 1/2. Entitlement and social programs comprise a great quantity of the budget. We need to cut these as well as military in order to achieve fiscal responsibility. The only candidate who wants to do this is Ron Paul. People want entitlements and also want us to have a strong economy and a balanced budget. Unfortunately we can't have both.

No one cares enough about the debt to cut entitlements or social programs and therefore our debt is going to perpetuate until our economy collapses into another great depression. Our dollar will have no value. The federal reserve simply compounds the problem. Americans will live in ignorance until it is too late.

Except a lot of people rely on entitlements and I'm not referring to just welfare. If it's cut immediately without reformation then you have a major problem with the entire country. What we really need to do is reform how our country is run then start cutting down on spending. Perhaps one solution is to let the states handle their own public education and eliminate federal oversight. Or privitize social security, medicare, and medicaid. We just need someone to sell the idea rather than force it down everyone's throats.

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[QUOTE="Vuurk"] Who do you think I am? ILostProphetFLCL

How are you going to tell me I didn't read it? If you want to know why I didn't post in that thread, it's because of how you're behaving now. You freak out when someone says something that you disagree with, as if you can't even listen to - let alone consider - opposing views, as if doing so would equate to apostasy. A "discussion" to you means calling anyone and everyone who disagrees with you a troll and/or sheep, constant condescension (I can't even count how many times you've arrogantly asked someone if they've ever taken an economics class), and spamming irrelevant youtube videos. You have no interest in critical thinking or having a reasonable discussion - the only thing you care about is evangelizing the gospel of your secular religion.

That was beautiful sir!

*high fives you*

Apparently he doesn't think the bill of rights (you know, part of that constitution he loves so much) applies to states. Here is a bill that he introduced that would states to violate the first and fourth amendments. (and it shows that he's a homophobe) It's worth noting this was the second time he introduced this bill.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:HR00958:@@@D&summ2=m&

Guybrush_3

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That was beautiful sir!

*high fives you*

Vuurk

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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

I've gcome to OT later rather than sooner, but apart from whatever shennanigans have gone on previously, Vuurk is acting like a royal a** in theis thread. I've tried to engage in a meaningful discussion about Ron Paul, genuinely curious at some points, but there a limit to being insulted. If Vuurk would calm down and speak rationally, he might convince people that Ron Paul is the real deal. Insulting people would get anyone anywhere.

Vuurk

Vuurk speaking rationally, lol.:lol:

Oh I contribute quite often. Your threads just aren't particularly deserving of taking seriously...

Also:

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Apparently he doesn't think the bill of rights (you know, part of that constitution he loves so much) applies to states. Here is a bill that he introduced that would states to violate the first and fourth amendments. (and it shows that he's a homophobe) It's worth noting this was the second time he introduced this bill.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:HR00958:@@@D&summ2=m&

TopTierHustler