Why WOULDNT anyone vote for Ron Paul?

[QUOTE="RandPaul"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] We have a past rich with corporations doing things that harmed other people.. Perhapes you have heard of the EPA actually started by a Republican, Nixon, to create the clean water act.. A knee jerk reaction when a major US river CAUGHT fire from the dumping in there.. Perhapes you should head to a library or book store and find the immense mountain of books discussing the rammifications of things like Globalization in which corporations have basically taken advantages of certain countries with little to no regulations and exploited them.. Too much of either side is a bad thing, contrary to your belief the private market is not perfect and neither is government.. Together is what has helped develope the west as the most powerful region in the world.. Hell a simple history lesson from the 1880s to 1920s will illustrate the dire rammifications in a setting where there was no organized labor, no workers rights etc etc.. sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="RandPaul"] If that U.S. river had a private owner he could have sued the corporation who dumped materials there.RandPaul

[QUOTE="RandPaul"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] I am sorry but no one owns a major US river.. It stretches hundreds of miles and can lead to the drinking water of countless towns and cities.. People need to get it through their heads that privatizing everything will not fix everything.. Seriously the libertarians are as dillusional as the communist supporters.. sSubZerOo

for those ron paul people Ron Paul has won in a landslide in Minnesota, mitt Romney only won one delegate in the state with fewer than five delegates with unknown support. i think that is going to be my contribution to this thread. surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]for those ron paul people Ron Paul has won in a landslide in Minnesota, mitt Romney only won one delegate in the state with fewer than five delegates with unknown support. i think that is going to be my contribution to this thread. RandPaul

for those ron paul people Ron Paul has won in a landslide in Minnesota, mitt Romney only won one delegate in the state with fewer than five delegates with unknown support. i think that is going to be my contribution to this thread. surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]for those ron paul people Ron Paul has won in a landslide in Minnesota, mitt Romney only won one delegate in the state with fewer than five delegates with unknown support. i think that is going to be my contribution to this thread. chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]for those ron paul people Ron Paul has won in a landslide in Minnesota, mitt Romney only won one delegate in the state with fewer than five delegates with unknown support. i think that is going to be my contribution to this thread. surrealnumber5

I don't know how else to put the fact that when you count the votes, Rick Santorum had a lot more than Ron Paul. The only reason Ron Paul has more delegates is because Rick Santorum is no longer in the race.

If you want to consider that a victory for Ron Paul, I'm not sure what to say.

I don't know how else to put the fact that when you count the votes, Rick Santorum had a lot more than Ron Paul. The only reason Ron Paul has more delegates is because Rick Santorum is no longer in the race. If you want to consider that a victory for Ron Paul, I'm not sure what to say.chessmaster1989

edit: and no delegates are not bound to people still in the running, santorum came in second and even bachmann got some delegates.

w/e

Going by your logic, Ron Paul got one technical victory in which he didn't even win a plurarily of the popular vote. Time to uncork the champagne and celebrate. :roll:

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]When did he say that? TopTierHustler

LMAO

Ron Pauls strictly follows the ways of our American for fathers,supporting slavery would violate the 13th Amendment

w/e

Going by your logic, Ron Paul got one technical victory in which he didn't even win a plurarily of the popular vote. Time to uncork the champagne and celebrate. :roll:

chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="RandPaul"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] I am sorry but no one owns a major US river.. It stretches hundreds of miles and can lead to the drinking water of countless towns and cities.. People need to get it through their heads that privatizing everything will not fix everything.. Seriously the libertarians are as dillusional as the communist supporters.. sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]for those ron paul people Ron Paul has won in a landslide in Minnesota, mitt Romney only won one delegate in the state with fewer than five delegates with unknown support. i think that is going to be my contribution to this thread. RandPaul

[QUOTE="RandPaul"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]for those ron paul people Ron Paul has won in a landslide in Minnesota, mitt Romney only won one delegate in the state with fewer than five delegates with unknown support. i think that is going to be my contribution to this thread. DarkOfKnight

dodge+insult=lost argumentsurrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]dodge+insult=lost argumentDarkOfKnight

[QUOTE="DarkOfKnight"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]dodge+insult=lost argumentsurrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="DarkOfKnight"]What argument? What insult? What was even the point of your other comment? Did you even understand what I was saying? Seriously...DarkOfKnight

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[QUOTE="RandPaul"] No one owns a river because of the government. Why shouldn't it be privatized? What incentive would the river owner have to maintain a dirty river?RandPaul

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The latest data actually shows Johnson gets more votes from liberals than conservatives. airshocker

I don't really see what's so hard to understand. ANY republican vote that doesn't go to Romney hurts us.

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B85TJJyKyKw&feature=player_embeddedsexyweapons

LMAO

Ron Pauls strictly follows the ways of our American for fathers,supporting slavery would violate the 13th Amendment

Jefferson for instance actually had sex with quite a few of his slaves and had kids....

might wanna rethink your line of thinking.

RP's local statist (opposed to federal statist) tendencies are an area of concern for me, which is why I dont think he's perfect by any means. I would however would be willing to overlook this flaw for a president that would end US imperialism, improve the economy by ending corporate welfare, and correct the federal deficit without raising taxes.DaBrainz

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[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]I bet money that the ron paul drones now support slavery.

TopTierHustler

LMAO

Ron Pauls strictly follows the ways of our American for fathers,supporting slavery would violate the 13th Amendment

Jefferson for instance actually had sex with quite a few of his slaves and had kids....

might wanna rethink your line of thinking.

And Jefferson's first draft of the Declaration of Independence had a paragraph that freed the slaves.

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="sexyweapons"]

LMAO

Ron Pauls strictly follows the ways of our American for fathers,supporting slavery would violate the 13th Amendment

KC_Hokie

Jefferson for instance actually had sex with quite a few of his slaves and had kids....

might wanna rethink your line of thinking.

And Jefferson's first draft of the Declaration of Independence had a paragraph that freed the slaves.

Founding fathers still supported it for the most part, as did many political leaders so again, lol @ "following thw wasy of our founders.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]Most of the founders of this country owned slaves as did many many senators, house members and presidents after that.

Jefferson for instance actually had sex with quite a few of his slaves and had kids....

might wanna rethink your line of thinking.

TopTierHustler

And Jefferson's first draft of the Declaration of Independence had a paragraph that freed the slaves.

Founding fathers still supported it for the most part, as did many political leaders so again, lol @ "following thw wasy of our founders.

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Slavery was brought to North America by Europeans. It's not like the Founders created the system or anything.

And Jefferson's first draft of the Declaration of Independence had a paragraph that freed the slaves.

KC_Hokie

Founding fathers still supported it for the most part, as did many political leaders so again, lol @ "following thw wasy of our founders.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]Then he pulled all that back because he blew his finances and in his desperation kept his slaves.

Founding fathers still supported it for the most part, as did many political leaders so again, lol @ "following thw wasy of our founders.

TopTierHustler

"he has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemispere, or to incure miserable death in their transportation hither. this piratical warfare, the opprobium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the Christian king of Great Britain. [determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought and sold,] he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce [determining to keep open a market where MEN should be bought and sold]: and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he had deprived them, by murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another."

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Slavery was brought to North America by Europeans. It's not like the Founders created the system or anything.

And Jefferson's first draft of the Declaration of Independence had a paragraph that freed the slaves.

KC_Hokie

Founding fathers still supported it for the most part, as did many political leaders so again, lol @ "following thw wasy of our founders.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]Then he pulled all that back because he blew his finances and in his desperation kept his slaves.

Founding fathers still supported it for the most part, as did many political leaders so again, lol @ "following thw wasy of our founders.

surrealnumber5

So debating slavery could have resulted in losing the revolutionary war due to splintering the colonies.

And Jefferson's first draft of the Declaration of Independence had a paragraph that freed the slaves.

KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]No. Jefferson didn't remove it. Non-slave owners, such as Ben Franklin, removed that paragraph in order to speed up adoption of the Declaration of Independence. They were at war they didn't have time to debate slavery. KC_Hokie

So debating slavery could have resulted in losing the revolutionary war due to splintering the colonies.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

And Jefferson's first draft of the Declaration of Independence had a paragraph that freed the slaves.

-Sun_Tzu-

Jefferson even argued slaves had the right to armed rebellion.

And plenty of people were racist back then but thought the institution of slavery was awful. Lincoln, for example, was racist as hell. And that was nearly 100 years later.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

And Jefferson's first draft of the Declaration of Independence had a paragraph that freed the slaves.

KC_Hokie

Jefferson even argued slaves had the right to armed rebellion.

And plenty of people were racist back then but thought the institution of slavery was awful. Lincoln, for example, was racist as hell. And that was 150 years later.

And while Lincoln was pretty racist earlier in his life, by the end of the civil war he had become very open to the idea of granting blacks citizenship and even suffrage.

[QUOTE="RandPaul"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Lets play your game, if that said river owner was getting a large pay check by the corporation for the dumping..And I am sorry but what? You SERIOULSY want the fresh water resources to be controlled by a select few people through private ownership.. Instead of being a shared resource for the entire society? RushKing