Work Harder, America

I objected specifically to the word "filth" in respect to liberals.

jimkabrhel

Don't really care what you objected to. You basically said we(the right) don't say positive things to the poor, only to the rich. I can't go a minute watching the TV without some right-leaning economist and/or politican explaining why he/she believes his policies will help ALL Americans.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

I objected specifically to the word "filth" in respect to liberals.

airshocker

Don't really care what you objected to. You basically said we(the right) don't say positive things to the poor, only to the rich. I can't go a minute watching the TV without some right-leaning economist and/or politican explaining why he/she believes his policies will help ALL Americans.

And have those policies actually helped the poor and middle class?

And have those policies actually helped the poor and middle class?

jimkabrhel

Of course they have, don't be ridiculous. A strong economy favors everyone. I don't see the war on poverty doing as much good as gainful employment. Do you?

But good strawman, regardless.

American workers do work hard. They work longer hours with less pay and vacation than a lot of other first world country workers.

American workers do work hard. They work longer hours with less pay and vacation than a lot of other first world country workers.

sonicare

We can thank the baby boomers for that crap.

I seriously do not understand how a person can look around at how things are today and NOT see that something is seriously wrong.

Yes people are sooo lazy, just like my buddy who graduated last year with a degree in bio-engineering and has just FINALLY landed a job.....one that is below his qualifications of course but hey, after a freaking YEAR of constant applying to jobs with no luck you take what you can...

The economy is **** and everyone not in the upper class is at a serious disadvantage now. It used to be that you work your ass off, go to college, and then you can work on making a career for yourself.

Now we have college degrees suddenly not meaning **** with tons of people my age graduating and finding themselves unable to land a job, but that does NOTHING to stop them from having to pay off all their debt from getting their degree.

Do people really want to try and argue people working their way through college as lazy, when that has been THE way to get yourself a career for decades now?

American workers do work hard. They work longer hours with less pay and vacation than a lot of other first world country workers.

sonicare

I seriously do not understand how a person can look around at how things are today and NOT see that something is seriously wrong.

Yes people are sooo lazy, just like my buddy who graduated last year with a degree in bio-engineering and has just FINALLY landed a job.....one that is below his qualifications of course but hey, after a freaking YEAR of constant applying to jobs with no luck you take what you can...

The economy is **** and everyone not in the upper class is at a serious disadvantage now. It used to be that you work your ass off, go to college, and then you can work on making a career for yourself.

Now we have college degrees suddenly not meaning **** with tons of people my age graduating and finding themselves unable to land a job, but that does NOTHING to stop them from having to pay off all their debt from getting their degree.

Do people really want to try and argue people working their way through college as lazy, when that has been THE way to get yourself a career for decades now?

LostProphetFLCL

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

I seriously do not understand how a person can look around at how things are today and NOT see that something is seriously wrong.

Yes people are sooo lazy, just like my buddy who graduated last year with a degree in bio-engineering and has just FINALLY landed a job.....one that is below his qualifications of course but hey, after a freaking YEAR of constant applying to jobs with no luck you take what you can...

The economy is **** and everyone not in the upper class is at a serious disadvantage now. It used to be that you work your ass off, go to college, and then you can work on making a career for yourself.

Now we have college degrees suddenly not meaning **** with tons of people my age graduating and finding themselves unable to land a job, but that does NOTHING to stop them from having to pay off all their debt from getting their degree.

Do people really want to try and argue people working their way through college as lazy, when that has been THE way to get yourself a career for decades now?

DaBrainz

He probably did. My guess is he didn't just sit unemployed for a year. Most people who are looking for a full time job out of college don't just sit around. They get or keep their part time jobs that have been sustaining them.

Having some part time job is not the same as a full time job.

As I said before, the market is oversaturated with college grads. It's bumped the reqiurements for every job. There is no way to fix is this. We just have to let the system normalize itself over time.

Occupy protesters are just big babies that want everything for free because they've made stupid mistakes such as buying a house or car they KNOW they can't afford. I'm 18 and I won't go to college or get student loans or even government assistance because I'm not a fat lazy borderline ret***** dumbsh*t, I already have a career with the largest cable company in the world that I can make more money at than most with their worthless degrees. Oh wait I almost forgot their degrees are worth several thousands in debt. Although not all degrees are worthless, I'd only think the debt is worth it if you're in a field such as nursing or mechanics. But still..America sucks.

Occupy protesters are just big babies that want everything for free because they've made stupid mistakes such as buying a house or car they KNOW they can't afford. I'm 18 and I won't go to college or get student loans or even government assistance because I'm not a fat lazy borderline ret***** dumbsh*t, I already have a career with the largest cable company in the world that I can make more money at than most with their worthless degrees. Oh wait I almost forgot their degrees are worth several thousands in debt. Although not all degrees are worthless, I'd only think the debt is worth it if you're in a field such as nursing or mechanics. But still..America sucks.

ConkerAndBerri2

Hopefully your cable company doesn't have any financial problems. Life seems great at 18, doesn't it?

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

American workers do work hard. They work longer hours with less pay and vacation than a lot of other first world country workers.

Sajo7

[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

American workers do work hard. They work longer hours with less pay and vacation than a lot of other first world country workers.

TopTierHustler

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="Sajo7"] Beat me to it. Also we have the right to protest. You can criticize why they protest, but don't call them lazy. I wouldn't criticize a Tea Party protester because they should be working instead, I would criticize them for plenty of things, but not that.DaBrainz

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

I seriously do not understand how a person can look around at how things are today and NOT see that something is seriously wrong.

Yes people are sooo lazy, just like my buddy who graduated last year with a degree in bio-engineering and has just FINALLY landed a job.....one that is below his qualifications of course but hey, after a freaking YEAR of constant applying to jobs with no luck you take what you can...

The economy is **** and everyone not in the upper class is at a serious disadvantage now. It used to be that you work your ass off, go to college, and then you can work on making a career for yourself.

Now we have college degrees suddenly not meaning **** with tons of people my age graduating and finding themselves unable to land a job, but that does NOTHING to stop them from having to pay off all their debt from getting their degree.

Do people really want to try and argue people working their way through college as lazy, when that has been THE way to get yourself a career for decades now?

DaBrainz

You do realize it is hard to even get THAT these days with how many overqualified people we have going into crap jobs like that, right?

People seem to think that going out applying for jobs=you get a job no problem! It is so far from the case it is terrifying....

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]Like having small genitals.

TopTierHustler

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

I seriously do not understand how a person can look around at how things are today and NOT see that something is seriously wrong.

Yes people are sooo lazy, just like my buddy who graduated last year with a degree in bio-engineering and has just FINALLY landed a job.....one that is below his qualifications of course but hey, after a freaking YEAR of constant applying to jobs with no luck you take what you can...

The economy is **** and everyone not in the upper class is at a serious disadvantage now. It used to be that you work your ass off, go to college, and then you can work on making a career for yourself.

Now we have college degrees suddenly not meaning **** with tons of people my age graduating and finding themselves unable to land a job, but that does NOTHING to stop them from having to pay off all their debt from getting their degree.

Do people really want to try and argue people working their way through college as lazy, when that has been THE way to get yourself a career for decades now?

LostProphetFLCL

You do realize it is hard to even get THAT these days with how many overqualified people we have going into crap jobs like that, right?

People seem to think that going out applying for jobs=you get a job no problem! It is so far from the case it is terrifying....

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"] So why didn't your buddy get a job such as washing dishes or construction labor while he was looking for a job in his degree field?TopTierHustler

You do realize it is hard to even get THAT these days with how many overqualified people we have going into crap jobs like that, right?

People seem to think that going out applying for jobs=you get a job no problem! It is so far from the case it is terrifying....

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

I seriously do not understand how a person can look around at how things are today and NOT see that something is seriously wrong.

Yes people are sooo lazy, just like my buddy who graduated last year with a degree in bio-engineering and has just FINALLY landed a job.....one that is below his qualifications of course but hey, after a freaking YEAR of constant applying to jobs with no luck you take what you can...

The economy is **** and everyone not in the upper class is at a serious disadvantage now. It used to be that you work your ass off, go to college, and then you can work on making a career for yourself.

Now we have college degrees suddenly not meaning **** with tons of people my age graduating and finding themselves unable to land a job, but that does NOTHING to stop them from having to pay off all their debt from getting their degree.

Do people really want to try and argue people working their way through college as lazy, when that has been THE way to get yourself a career for decades now?

LostProphetFLCL

You do realize it is hard to even get THAT these days with how many overqualified people we have going into crap jobs like that, right?

People seem to think that going out applying for jobs=you get a job no problem! It is so far from the case it is terrifying....

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

I seriously do not understand how a person can look around at how things are today and NOT see that something is seriously wrong.

Yes people are sooo lazy, just like my buddy who graduated last year with a degree in bio-engineering and has just FINALLY landed a job.....one that is below his qualifications of course but hey, after a freaking YEAR of constant applying to jobs with no luck you take what you can...

The economy is **** and everyone not in the upper class is at a serious disadvantage now. It used to be that you work your ass off, go to college, and then you can work on making a career for yourself.

Now we have college degrees suddenly not meaning **** with tons of people my age graduating and finding themselves unable to land a job, but that does NOTHING to stop them from having to pay off all their debt from getting their degree.

Do people really want to try and argue people working their way through college as lazy, when that has been THE way to get yourself a career for decades now?

LostProphetFLCL

You do realize it is hard to even get THAT these days with how many overqualified people we have going into crap jobs like that, right?

People seem to think that going out applying for jobs=you get a job no problem! It is so far from the case it is terrifying....

Occupy protesters are just big babies that want everything for free because they've made stupid mistakes such as buying a house or car they KNOW they can't afford. I'm 18 and I won't go to college or get student loans or even government assistance because I'm not a fat lazy borderline ret***** dumbsh*t, I already have a career with the largest cable company in the world that I can make more money at than most with their worthless degrees. Oh wait I almost forgot their degrees are worth several thousands in debt. Although not all degrees are worthless, I'd only think the debt is worth it if you're in a field such as nursing or mechanics. But still..America sucks.

ConkerAndBerri2

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"] So why didn't your buddy get a job such as washing dishes or construction labor while he was looking for a job in his degree field?TopTierHustler

You do realize it is hard to even get THAT these days with how many overqualified people we have going into crap jobs like that, right?

People seem to think that going out applying for jobs=you get a job no problem! It is so far from the case it is terrifying....

I've sent out 40 applications since last year and haven't gotten a single call back from anywhere yet. The best I can do is farmhanding on some local farms for pocket change. It's rough out there.

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

You do realize it is hard to even get THAT these days with how many overqualified people we have going into crap jobs like that, right?

People seem to think that going out applying for jobs=you get a job no problem! It is so far from the case it is terrifying....

WiiCubeM1

I've sent out 40 applications since last year and haven't gotten a single call back from anywhere yet. The best I can do is farmhanding on some local farms for pocket change. It's rough out there.

I do like horses though.

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

You do realize it is hard to even get THAT these days with how many overqualified people we have going into crap jobs like that, right?

People seem to think that going out applying for jobs=you get a job no problem! It is so far from the case it is terrifying....

WiiCubeM1

I've sent out 40 applications since last year and haven't gotten a single call back from anywhere yet. The best I can do is farmhanding on some local farms for pocket change. It's rough out there.

Well if you sent out 40 applications and you didn't hear back once, there is obviously something wrong with what you're putting on an application.

After 10-15 rejections you should probably have reevaluated what you're putting on those things.

Some of the most common things that people get rejected for are age, your transportation, your expected wage, and your availability. Bascially when you're scraping the bottom of the barrel, you've got to be willing to do anything.

Prior work experiance hurts too. If you're 20+ and you've never had a job before, you're going to have a crappy time trying to find work.

The "if I can do it, then you can do it" mentality is good to motivate the unmotivated, but otherwise quite a narrow-minded view.

lol dem generalizations.

kingkong and hokie = top-tier trolls

You want to know what's really sad in today's society? Occupy protestors. People that are protesting because of their useless degree philosophy or literature. These are the same exact people that want us to suffer because of their own failures. And failure is besides the issue. They don't want to work. At all. America is becoming a country filled with lazy people with no work ethic.

Explain to me, how an immigrant from India or Mexico can come here legally and make more money than you ever did and will. This Indian immigrant probably had a horrible education compared to you and a horrible environment to grow up in. This Indian decides to immigrate to the U.S. and works his ass off at odd jobs, and works his way up. He soon is the true definition of a capitalist and owns a couple gas stations, and is very successful. Don't believe me, go to your local gas station, they're everywhere. They have worked hard without a college degree in a foreign country (which they speak broken English in) and are now successful. There is no such thing as "environmental factors", there's something called willpower, hard work, and common sense. Thing most Occupy protestors lack.

kingkong0124

The problem isn't really work harder. What you should be saying is "spend less."

In particular don't double mortgage your house. Don't use 3 different credit cards. Don't live on 200% of your income and gain butloads of debt. Live on what you can. You don't need to compete with your neighbours. Spend what you earn and leave enough for expenses.

Do this & the U.S.A. shall improve.

lol dem generalizations.

kingkong and hokie = top-tier trolls

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

You want to know what's really sad in today's society? Occupy protestors. People that are protesting because of their useless degree philosophy or literature. These are the same exact people that want us to suffer because of their own failures. And failure is besides the issue. They don't want to work. At all. America is becoming a country filled with lazy people with no work ethic.

Explain to me, how an immigrant from India or Mexico can come here legally and make more money than you ever did and will. This Indian immigrant probably had a horrible education compared to you and a horrible environment to grow up in. This Indian decides to immigrate to the U.S. and works his ass off at odd jobs, and works his way up. He soon is the true definition of a capitalist and owns a couple gas stations, and is very successful. Don't believe me, go to your local gas station, they're everywhere. They have worked hard without a college degree in a foreign country (which they speak broken English in) and are now successful. There is no such thing as "environmental factors", there's something called willpower, hard work, and common sense. Thing most Occupy protestors lack.

Skarwolf

The problem isn't really work harder. What you should be saying is "spend less."

In particular don't double mortgage your house. Don't use 3 different credit cards. Don't live on 200% of your income and gain butloads of debt. Live on what you can. You don't need to compete with your neighbours. Spend what you earn and leave enough for expenses.

Do this & the U.S.A. shall improve.

Youth of America grew up thinking everything is handed to them in a silver platter

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

lol dem generalizations.

kingkong and hokie = top-tier trolls

kingkong0124

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

lol dem generalizations.

kingkong and hokie = top-tier trolls

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] >Disagrees with Me/Hokie >Cannot write a coherent response. >Troll. I do, however, agree that I am "top-tier". kingkong0124

LeBron > Kobe.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]I don't take trolls seriously, thus I won't write a "coherent response". Here's a gif of LeBron dancing:

jimkabrhel

LeBron > Kobe.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] LeBrick sucks, post a Kobe gif. kingkong0124

LeBron > Kobe.

I'd like to, but no cable. Just following on the interwebz. I'm a Sixers fan anyway.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

LeBron > Kobe.

jimkabrhel

I'd like to, but no cable. Just following on the interwebz. I'm a Sixers fan anyway.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] At this point, yeah I'd agree, but when it's all said and done? No. You watching the game?

kingkong0124

I'd like to, but no cable. Just following on the interwebz. I'm a Sixers fan anyway.

Indeed. I don't think they'll make it much farther, but anything is better than the lottery.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] >Disagrees with Me/Hokie >Cannot write a coherent response. >Troll. I do, however, agree that I am "top-tier". kingkong0124

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]i was watching hannity one day and he totally tore apart this OWS protester telling him he needs to get his ass off the streets and find a job no matter how menial or demeaning. i thought it was funny as shtkraychik

Lol 80-100k.

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

If everyone works hard isn't that communism?

Vuurk

This conversation ended pages ago with a conclusion on both sides, but if you want to randomly reply, that's cool too.

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

I've sent out 40 applications since last year and haven't gotten a single call back from anywhere yet. The best I can do is farmhanding on some local farms for pocket change. It's rough out there.

Vuurk

I do like horses though.

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="Vuurk"] No, you are mistaken. Communism is when everyone is poor because there is no incentive to work hard thus productivity is at a minimum. Vuurk

This conversation ended pages ago with a conclusion on both sides, but if you want to randomly reply, that's cool too.

Not a commie. I just found the stance in his OP interesting and amusing on a theoretical level given his views.

[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]I kinda suspect brainzless is a 15 year old who has never held a job.

Wasdie

I've sent out 40 applications since last year and haven't gotten a single call back from anywhere yet. The best I can do is farmhanding on some local farms for pocket change. It's rough out there.

Well if you sent out 40 applications and you didn't hear back once, there is obviously something wrong with what you're putting on an application.

After 10-15 rejections you should probably have reevaluated what you're putting on those things.

Some of the most common things that people get rejected for are age, your transportation, your expected wage, and your availability. Bascially when you're scraping the bottom of the barrel, you've got to be willing to do anything.

Prior work experiance hurts too. If you're 20+ and you've never had a job before, you're going to have a crappy time trying to find work.

20 years old

2 prior jobs: paper boy and a dishwasher at a camp, plus a lot of volunteer work ranging from construction, house, work, gardening, and plumbing to light accounting, secretarying, and filing. I even had a 3 week internship at an observatory.

$13,000 - $20,000

I'm free anytime after 2:00 during college and anytime during Summer and breaks.

I'm a regular blood donator and a major contributor to the American Cancer Society due to fundraising with a local team.

I have a car.

I've never applied for anything above frycook.

I really have no idea what is so unappealing about my application. It's subpar, but there is nothing glaringly terrible about it, either. I think I just have sh*tty luck. I do in everything else.

Youth of America grew up thinking everything is handed to them in a silver platter

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